Windows XP Tablet PC Edition - A Retrospective

[@ayan1875]

6:06 A FINGERPRINT READER IN AN MID 2000s??? It was wayyyyyy ahead of its time.

[@gabrielgomez2483]

Many many many business computers from that era came with it. Not sure why they fell out of style until recently.

[@Solaceon]

They even had them on certain phones pre-smartphone era! They were terrible though, nothing as good as they are today.

[@mjdxp5688]

Tablet computing sure has changed drastically since then. Very interesting video!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you!

[@Jake1702]

To be honest, I wouldn't mind using one of these, especially due to the lack of multi-touch.

[@mjdxp5688]

@@Jake1702 I agree. It seems pretty comfortable to use.

[@Remake5182]

@@MichaelMJD I'm using a Toshiba Satellite Pro, which I brought as a Win7 and use as a Win 10 today. Is it possible for you to do an episode on the Toshiba Satellite serise?

[@haijehiemstra2883]

Hi pink blue furret i like u profile pic :D

[@DasDoubleD]

Michael, fun fact about the M200... the machine literally can't boot off of most USB CD drives, yet somehow the machine can boot from an SD card. The laptop's innards with the Pentium M makes it pretty dang competitive with desktops of the time. I had one, sent it overseas to some relatives.

[@MaxwellKlinger]

this is unironically the best Microsoft product ever made

[@RavenholmZombie]

2003: $1900 for a single-core CPU and touchscreen. 2020: $300 for a touchscreen laptop with a quad-core CPU and gaming-capable IGPU or dedicated GPU. My how far tech has come

[@Remake5182]

@hohok fajny! 2003? how much did stands cost then?

[@charliekahn4205]

Same effective speed, more or less, because Xp is so lightweight.

[@dodovomitory3496]

I've never seen a $300 touchscreen laptop with a quad-core CPU and gaming-capable IGPU or dedicated GPU. Laptops are overpriced

[@illford]

@@dodovomitory3496 I mean they do exist

[@SAMISHUKRI]

​@@Remake5182 He's talking about the Apple Stand. For some reason Apple released a $1k monitor stand, probably cause Apple fucking sucks. Normally monitor stands are much cheaper.

[@PCWindowstechguy]

Very interesting retrospective about the windows XP tablet

[@anony88]

I just themed my windows 10 into windows xp. My taskbar, start button, and start menu all looks identical to windows xp.. It's nice for nostalgia.

[@horsedisposal]

One of my favorite things I own is an official Windows XP Tablet PC Edition polo shirt! I've never seen or used the hardware or software, so it's very interesting to see. It really reminds me of win 8's very touch screen forward design. I remember really wanting one of these back when they were being produced!

[@MichaelMJD]

Wait, they made a SHIRT?! Lol that is awesome.

[@horsedisposal]

@@MichaelMJD YES!! I found it on eBay a few years back and miraculously it was in my size! It still had the tags, I guess it was part of some promotional set that never got used? lol It's a black polo with the windows XP logo embroidered on and it says "tablet PC edition".

[@MichaelMJD]

Wow that sounds awesome! When I looked it up, I found that someone sold a long sleeve Tablet PC shirt on Grailed a while back. It looks different than what you described though. Still, super cool!

[@Manveru1986]

I love watching your videos before going to sleep.

[@aarontrupiano9328]

4:20 updates are ready for your computer

[@onomichio3739]

At 4:20 too lol

[@aarontrupiano9328]

@@onomichio3739 that's exactly what i said

[@travisgotbands]

Funni numbr

[@funnystoriesshorts481]

@@aarontrupiano9328 also at 6:9, oh wait

[@DigitalHandle]

@@funnystoriesshorts481 you mean 6:09 ?

[@phony4581]

This a great retrospective. I love watching your videos. Thanks again Michael!

[@MichaelMJD]

You're welcome! Glad you like the video : )

[@phony4581]

@@MichaelMJD anytime dude.

[@Daa253]

One of the real interesting facts about tablet PC's was that most had a pressure sensitive (sometimes even tilt sensitive) Wacom digitizer and pen! I use to have a used HP TC4400 and an HP Elitebook 2730p but the first one had screen issues then the second one had a dead keyboard.

[@funey9541]

Because tablet pc screens and samsung note phones use the same tecchnology, you can use the tablet pc pen for the samsung note, and vice versa!

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Been waiting a while for this one

[@jfitzpatrick6108]

Excellent Retro Review! Enjoyed it immensely. Thank you!

[@MichaelMJD]

Awesome to hear that! Glad you liked the video

[@franci2a]

Hey Michael_MJD, I heard online of a thing called “Microsoft Experience Pack for Tablet PC”, which according to them it introduced some Vista programs over to XP Tablet PC. It would be incredibly interesting if you could check out that pack, and not only on XP Tablet PC but also on other XP Editions! Love your vids

[@linux_doggo]

I dont know what it is about early 2000s technology but it always seemed more interesting to me than the modern stuff. Windows XP was (or still is) one of my favourite operating systems ever, and the fact that DVDs were still used at the time makes me happier than it should. And this pc was released when I was just 1!

[@sheik124]

You reminded me of the Acer Tablet PC I helped my father pick out when new EMR [electronic medical records] requirements "next year" had physicians convinced they'd all have to use the devices (or similar ones) to fill out "charts" the same way they did on paper in the 90s and earlier. Except most of the EMR solutions at the time had clunky, if any, pen support. "Next year" came and went and while they all definitely got rid of all the paper, EMR remained way less skeuomorphic and a lot more suited to natively being on a computer with a keyboard and mouse. These things were all over the place [and almost exclusively used with a keyboard and mouse] in hospitals with big IT budgets to blow in the mid 00s. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the majority of devices like those InMotion tablets weren't sold exclusively to healthcare customers. It's kind of ironic how now that things like the Surface are ubiquitous and comparatively dirt cheap, *nobody* is keeping medical records on "digital paper". Instead you see people who need inking/pen support like football coaching staff using the hell out of them instead, or fans of 150 WPM ear rape on Cherry MX Blues or unsilenced Topres sticking to handwriting in a lecture hall instead of making enemies of their peers and professors. Guilty as charged, BTW. Pretty sure that thing found itself a nice home with a relative overseas a year or two after he bought it. It having a Pentium M when most laptops available there still had NetBurst P4's, plus the maxed out RAM I added, still made it seem amazing, especially for a freebie... lol, it's still in my NewEgg order history! Acer TravelMate TMC312XCi Intel Pentium M 740 (1.73 GHz) 512 MB Memory 14.1" 1024 x 768 Tablet PC Windows XP Tablet PC ... $1529 in 2005.

[@yeahboii5482]

interesting retrospective about windows xp tablet. amazing work!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you so much!

[@linuxlonestar4796]

What a coincidence I found this! My channel is actually named after the code name for windows xp tablet edition 2005. Nice video!

[@AmethystLeslie]

I don't know if it was this tablet in particular, but there's a DCOM called "Read It And Weep" where the main character uses this tablet for her journal entries. I thought that was the coolest thing ever and I wanted one. I never did get one, modern smartphones exist, and I realized I preferred pen and paper for my own journal entries, but it's still a neat thing to exist at the time.

[@staz3014]

These things are so cool! Great video!

[@WTFBOOMDOOM]

Just wow! Surprisingly ahead of its time!

[@Speaksli]

Love your video. I launched the M1400 and LE1600 Tablet PCs from Motion. Those were fun days!

[@rafaelamadeus5155]

About the XP Tablet app (Sticky Notes, Journal, Inkball), they came before eventually included in general versions of Windows 7 (Inkball was Vista-only game).

[@Gess1t]

7:48 depends on the device & software, you can just filter out touch inputs when a pen is in range

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

I've been tempted to buy one recently for some nostalgic XP software as well as dedicated drawing applications

[@matocarina]

7:40 this is a surprisingly common misconception. The screen that detects a pen is inductive, so when the pen is near the screen the tablet just turns off the capacitive input (or maybe this doesn't even have a capacitive screen, you didn't show it working with your finger), it has nothing to do with multi-touch, there's no such thing as palm rejection in these tables or galaxy notes for example.

[@MichaelMJD]

Touching the screen with your finger does not do anything. You have to use the stylus

[@razt3757]

wtf this has more features than current tablets lol and it not being multitouch sounds amazing for drawing and all that

[@bippaasama]

Hovering over the surface to move the mouse is also how Wacom drawing tablets work.

[@blainepalmerza]

Awesome video,Michael

[@MichaelMJD]

Thanks!

[@BilisNegra]

I'd propose to compare the dedicated XP Tablet Edition to the in-built touch functionality in later versions of Windows. Anything lost along the way? Anything remarkably new? Do the apps/features that look apparently the same or equivalent perform better? I find that would be quite an interesting topic to cover!

[@BABY-PUNCHER]

Watching the mouse move so quickly with the stylus very satisfying

[@aminaka3727]

Nice video. just a tip (probebly useless) use de-esser plugins to cut sharp "S" in your presentation to make it sound nicer. :)

[@tipsythecat]

wtf does this mean?

[@aminaka3727]

@@tipsythecat it's simply a software to reduce harsh S and T sounds. not that necessary tbh but I thought it might help :)

[@KamaroTheN7]

5:13 I think that one was used in gorges Stargate: Atlantis.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

yes it was.

[@Divyanshu.Saraswat]

Apple may have the best optimised OS for Mac and ton of features but Windows XP remains the most loved and huge fan based OS of all time

[@koseki_stuff]

7:13 Where’d you get that cut on your finger? I’m just curious!

[@CathrineMacNiel]

XP looked to gorgeous :(

[@JTRAIN]

Windows XP, one of the most popular operating systems since 2001

[@professorjack2099]

Windows XP, when you knew a button was clickable without having to hover your mouse over it.

[@cassadagaa]

I have an HP tc4400 that closely follows the design of the M200. Originally had XP Tablet PC edition like the ones in the video.. upgraded it to WIn 7 with an SSD and I still use it for schoolwork.. it's a really unique form factor.

[@CollinKeegan]

I had a Windows 7 Motion Computing tablet, very similar experience. Was awesome.

[@CheckedShirtMatt]

This brought back great memories of my (sadly now long dead) Toshiba Satellite. It was pretty chunky and pretty slow, but it was so cool how it could recognise even my terrible handwriting. Probably time to bite the bullet and get myself a Surface Pro.

[@XYourexMyxSaviorX]

When I was in the computer program at my local vocational school we had several Toshiba proteges that were assigned to the networking students to go all over campus they were very useful but could get very warm and cumbersome if you had to be in a remote location they were very well built and had awesome battery life

[@WillyToons]

I have a Toshiba Satellite just like it, but lost the pen. When you said there was an extra pen hidden in the battery compartment, I dug it out to check if there was one there. There wasn’t.

[@QUADBOYification]

Because this runs so smooth on old hardware it is probably running even better on new more advanced (UEFI disabled) W8/W10 Tablets, especially with touchscreens. Only a small 4GB seperate partition (Dual Boot) is required to run Windows XP & 1GB of ram is already always present as a minimum on newer Atom cpu based tablets and mini PC's of today. Man do i love to have that installer for that specific version of Windows XP. Great video, thanks.

[@moonrock41]

That's interesting. I have a touch screen HP laptop that I upgraded from Win 8 to 8.1 to 10 and the drivers for the touch screen were lost. I've never been able to find them anywhere for Win 10. Have you actually gotten this to work on newer machines?

[@OmegaWolf747]

So cool to see stuff I thought that started with smartphones in these tablets. 📱

[@richardadams4928]

If you liked the apps that came with XP Tablet Edition, you should definitely check out XP Tablet Plus Pack and Power Toys, MS freebies including games, handwriting analysis, educational program, and more. I still have a Fujitsu Stylistic, an Acer C110, and an Acer C300. Love 'em!

[@rexperverziff]

A tablet from the 2000’s has more storage then an iPad from 2018

[@pafawag5b6b5b]

i didn't know that inkball was first included with xp tablet edition, i loved playing it on my dad's toshiba running vista though!

[@renniereen]

love the work you do

[@W1ldTangent]

I bought a used HP/Compaq TC4400 with Win XP Tablet PC edition and a portable wand-type scanner when I went to college, it saved me from buying and lugging around a lot of text books haha, I'd just scan pages from my classmates' or the library copies. First thing I did when I unboxed it was install Windows 7 lol. Mine came with a special external optical drive with a proprietary USB+power cable. It had almost all of the tablet features built-in and HP did release updated software for download and it worked surprisingly well for the era. A couple months later the iPad came out 😂

[@MaxwellVador]

I had a Fujitsu Lifebook tablet/laptop back in 2006 for animation. I helped write a hacked driver to allow Wacom drivers to control the input instead of Windows generic drivers

[@r033cx]

Tablet with ethernet port looks surreal

[@pastmidnitee]

I remember ink ball on vista. I still kinda play it when i go to the old office

[@matthewpaulargall9102]

These devices look like a lot of fun! Do they include Solitaire?

[@pschiptunes64]

I almost lost my mind when I heard "Portege M200." I've got a Portege M400 running XP Professional right beside me. I feel like the Portege line didn't get the attention it deserved - a 1400x1050 screen was HUGE for 2006

[@kjetilv]

Fun to see this again. I mostly used HP tablet pc's, but there wasn't much of a difference

[@rhignome1981]

i'd rather have one of these over an ipad or android tablet.

[@とふこ]

Windows 10 tablets?

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

They were very expensive.

[@96blocks]

Yeah, running win32 apps on a tablet sounds rad

[@LegoWormNoah101]

Can we appreciate how "Hello" turned into "Net10"?

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

1:26 Windows for Pen was basically vapourware designed to kill off the market for PenPoint from Go Computing, which had been announced not long before.

[@whitebeartigtig]

on the older toshiba laptops, the volume wheel could be used for the speakers also, without the need for a driver

[@dysfunctionalwombat]

I really want to get a HP/Comapq TC1100. I know someone who used to have one with the keyboard and some other things. It was super cool. Plus that was the only time experienced XP tablet edition

[@Ensue85A]

Windows 95c was pretty cool. Have you used it?

[@rartolak]

I remember using a fujitsu winxp tablet a friend of mine had gotten. Ran on a centrino pentium m from 2005. It could run youtube in 2011 when I used it. Had a dock it would connect to for additional usb, parallel and serial ports. Even then I had to slim down windows as it was chugging along with 480p playback then. However its a neat piece of hardware in its own right as I see it.

[@ThatTonybo]

Mad to think that the touch technology in my Surface today originated from 1992.

[@JamesTheHuman]

I believe I had a Fujitsu LifeBook T3010 or a similar model I got it used without the pen I did end up finding a pen for it. it was a fun little computer before it ended up dieing it's cool to learn that it had a specialized version of Windows thank you

[@TimeWisely]

That moment when you want a tablet but you also want a computer, talk about a 2 in one deal, i'd love if someone could try and get android on one of these things, just to see what happens.

[@aarupoudyal1378]

android on this would be terrible, as it would run an old version. and even android on todays tablets are bad as it isn’t optimised good enough

[@r4microds]

I used to have the M1400, i remember the intel GMA igpu was it's biggest downfall. It just about ran most XP based art applications like ArtRage, Paint-tool SAI, and .NET Paint... I vaguely even remember playing a bit vanilla world of warcraft private servers on that thing at like 640x480, 20fps. Not great but usable. Was a very sturdy machine otherwise. At some point, I tinkered with it and got it running Win7 which had significantly better handwriting capabilities over XP tablet edition but the overall performance was so weak that it made using the OS a real struggle. I may have attempted win8 at some point and might have gotten it running but im not entirely sure if the cpu actually supported DX or PAE.

[@kyanoang3l0_old]

The first time I heard of Windows CE was when we got a Dreamcast (our first and last Sega console), which had the Win CE label on it. I thought it was cool that it was using Windows and I might be able to run Windows games on it lol. Didn't know they were used on tablets.

[@TiagoMilanov]

I would love to see fl studio running on that XD

[@NathanChisholm041]

Wouldnt have the grunt to run FL 20

[@TiagoMilanov]

@@NathanChisholm041 and ableton 8? 🤔

[@jmm1233]

perfect for painting with

[@frostdash-aviation]

The inkball game was also included with windows Vista

[@funny.onix_ar]

This Was Ahead Of Its Time

[@mikv8]

There was also a much rarer Windows XP Professional 64-Bit Edition (not to be confused with much more common x64 edition) that runs on Intel Itanium only and not x86-64 compatible.

[@RAUL1991]

best windows forever

[@EmeraldEmolga]

This is awesome

[@ChrLOwens]

I set up a Motion Computing tablet for a guy back around 2002 I think. I wanted one so badly but couldn’t afford one at all. 2013 came around and I finally got a Lenovo Helix at work, loved it but man the tablet capabilities were not as useful as I thought they would be for over a decade.

[@justinnewton7366]

I love Windows XP!!!

[@AresPro_]

0 dislikes 1.7k views and 200+ likes. Nice

[@extrabitfire]

I wish Windows was actually an operating system now and not just basically a digital shopping mall.

[@charliekahn4205]

This is sort of what I imagine when I think of a large tablet PC or convertible. This is what I want if they redo Win8.1, and this is the reason why I run Win10 in desktop mode when converted. Also: I think that input program on the taskbar was the inspiration for Onboard on Linux.

[@ilkeryoldas]

I was fortunate enough to use it with an IBM x41 when it was first launched.. I still have it and works great except for the battery

[@VilkuKarotajs]

*Windows XP professional и Windows Vista Home - Самые лучшие операционные системы в мире.*

[@eDoc2020]

I have an M1400, too! Unfortunately it seems to run much slower than a system with its CPU should, and there are sometimes display artifacts and trouble booting. When it's working it's a joy to use with Windows 7, but I could never manage to get the digitizer working with XP. If I can get it working well again I'll try more things out. If I can maybe I'll quad-boot XP, 7, 10, and Linux.

[@fm00078]

Wonder... IF a few fairly minor updates this could be sold today? #1 being security.

[@daveraschke]

Holy shit dude i remember using this in elementary school.

[@MonochromeWench]

The input panel in Windows 10 is virtually the same as the winxp tablet edition one just with modern UI theming

[@marcoantoniodasilvabatista7203]

i accidentally discovered a flashing advertising billboard that wants you

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

I actually have a tablet Toshiba laptop that I just got that is really similar. Unfortunately it stopped working as the track nub was malfunctioning and in my efforts to fix it, the nub broke off and now the machines trackpad doesn’t even work.

[@RobertDeloyd]

I own one of those Toshiba M200... gonna have to dig it out and play with it now! :) I'm wondering if I can put an SSD and transfer the OS over to it. I do not have a CD with the OS on it :( I didn't know about the hidden pen!!! I'll have to go check!

[@Wasmachineman]

Damn, Motion Computing takes me back, I had a LE1700 not so long ago. Slow as hell 1.8 ZIF HDD makes it nearly unusuable though. I should install XP on my secondary CF-19 caddy for shits 'n giggles!

[@musicalneptunian]

This is what has happened to Microsoft. Windows XP was my favourite Windows OS. Now you get Cortana, Candy Crush and Soda Pop whatsit Saga, and a flashing advertising billboard that wants you to only buy from the Windows Store. How a great company has sunk and made using Windows a prison instead of any fun. Two days till the end of Windows seven; I have already gone 100% Linux and have left the current joke Nadella regime behind for good.

[@tomyyoung2624]

cool tablette !

[@superstar64]

My first experience with TPCE 2005 was when I accidentally discovered a Windows XP tablet in my aunt’s basement.

[@DerSchoermbro]

What type of stylus did you use on the Toshiba Laptop? I have a really similar model, that's sadly missing both styluses and you really can't find anything useful on the web. Would be great if anyone could help me out here! Thanks in advance!

[@kasparsplavnieks580]

All videos are intresting

[@lalakuma9]

I miss those transforming 2-in-1 laptops with the rotating screen. I had a Fujitsu model like that in the late 2000s. These days the transforming laptop-tablets usually just have 360-degree screen hinge, but that means you're constantly pressing on the keyboard buttons at the back when you hold it on tablet mode. The keyboard may be disabled, but it seems... uncomfortable.

[@Solaceon]

They still have it, Chromebook Flex comes to mind. You're right, it's quite awkward but brilliant for watching stuff on.

[@S3vRne7]

Is there any video about the pocketPC?

[@catcs]

Very interesting

[@definitely_notme4112]

6:05 woah Microsoft had touch ID 15 years before apple lol