Wing chun and Aikido (Kormushin and Mikhailov)

[@channelryu3380]

Very interesting approach! Wing Chun is very useful as an atemi (opening strike) before proceeding into Aikido techniques, as shown in the video. Wing Chun's sophisticated yet effective blocking and deflecting techniques are perfect to set up certain Aikido techniques. Wing Chun and Aikido have similar approaches: simultaneous block and attack; and entering (intercepting) into an attack (irimi in Aikido term).

[@magicmatlock7568]

This is an excellent video. Its amazing how these two styles gel into each other. Wing-Chun (close range), into Aikido (very close range). I believe this works best if one learns Wing-Chun first (as i have). I've see it attempted the other way around and the Aikido guys find it difficult to find the flow

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

Brian Matlock its because its easier to learn "retain centre" first then "moved around opponents centre" first first you control your centre then you learn to move off it the other way around will leave you stuck moving off centre when you're suppose to keep it

[@ZFlyingVLover]

Brian Matlock The only other art i would recommend is kali because the hand motions are equialent and very natural for open hand, knife, sword and stick. It is also offensive where wing chun and aikido are defensive arts that use the opponents energy against them. Not a knock on wing chun or aikido but a trained boxers will inflict ALOT of damage too on any art due to the barrage and precise nature of that art. Ultimately, the masters all seem to converge on the same understanding irrespective of the path chosen.

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

ZFlyingVLover aikido throws can knock you out and a strong enough wing chun combo should be able to quickly, boxing is no better at ko then aikido nor wing chun

[@seretherethal3139]

+ZFlyingVLover While I'd certainly agree with you in the case of Aikido, Wing Chun actually doesn't have a huge bias towards offence or defence. I tend to find it adapts quite well to either role, depending on what you want to do, since when used offensively you can rely on your training to block when needed, leaving you free to move in and attack your enemy. Wing Chun can actually be pretty vicious when attacking. I will agree with boxers though, they can be a pain. There are ways around them though, and at the very least my school teaches some techniques specifically to help deal with boxers, since they are a recognised danger (given that I live in the UK). At the very least, they're not a danger until they get to a decent level too, so it really depends on how much training each person does. xD

[@phosphorescence]

I just now realized aikido uses a frontal stance, to maximize their grabbing, pulling and pushing leverage. Right off the bat it made me think of wing chun, because they too prefer to keep their stance the same, but for different reasons. There are some very great similarities between the stances, I wish this video had translations though, just to get the finer points across. Still watched the whole vid, says a lot on its own.

[@CurlyFrysGaming]

originally i thought as you did. but after studying in asia and training under masters who had compiled records (including video, and personal notes of great fighters) I learned the Bruce was a very accomplished fighter. He had many fights in asia, and even helped to modify several styles here. he is one of two people who are people claim to be undisputed as a great fighter and a master of the arts and for good reason. I also had the chance to study his style. I find it very effective and fun.

[@afanasful]

Excellent job! I really appreciate this idea of combining Aikido and Win Chun since it has a lot of potential. It is very clear and intelligent explanation of the conception. Thanks for sharing and demonstrating your idea.

[@IkeTomas2010]

This is what I've been practicing for a long time Wing chun Aikido Judo savote boxing and Hakko ryu Jujutsu and Daito ryu Aiki Jujutsu.I love all these arts and will practice them as long as I live.I hope I can practice for another 40yrs.

[@georgepapas1326]

my respect to both! i dont understand the language but i understand the martial art language! very very nice idea! im a wing chun student and i give my respect to the aikido master for not showing off him self because i can understand that this is wing chun master's idea! you don't see often a master of any art wanting to learn something else! really nice work to all!

[@HirikiAikidoka]

Glad to see this video up. We combined our Aikido with Wing Chun and Muay Thai. Were also on KZbin and plan on putting more videos up. Just search Hiriki Aikido

[@ijoshwoo7929]

Thank you both sensie for sharing on both martial arts its a big help for additional knowledge for me.

[@zark212]

Rolling Hands is a "Bridge" between forms and fighting. There are a lot of beneficial factors involved and these can be carried forward into real world applications of sensitivity, Position and correct use of stance timing plus energy. One would not expect a WC person to start rolling hands if attacked which may lead to the reason you may be slightly of track. I hope this may have helped you out.

[@vincastrumpopulis4801]

If you learn wing chun very well you will be an excellent fighter But wing chun or tsun is very difficult and long term way remember Also many teachers are not good teachers

[@evanmartin8199]

Wing Chun teaches itself to those who listen and are sensitive enough to learn. But one must have a good teacher to learn chi sao properly and without force.

[@Itztehcuhtli]

This man has extremely fast reflexes and fluid line familiarization. He could probably train in any style now and intuitively use what is best for him and adapt it to many situations.

[@krywult]

Chi Sao (sticky hands) is not a combat thing, but a training excercise. It helps us train to feel the power and direction of an attack. This skill is only necessary, if one of our "light punches" do not hit home, but are blocked. In this case, what we learned in chi sao helps us not get stuck on the block but move around it. Saying that you never saw someone use chi sao reliably against non-wing chun style is like claiming you never saw a boxer beat someone with a punching ball.

[@Random1765]

Great video. I wish there were subtitles, but what's great about martial arts is it's very visual.

[@chitowntexan70]

very good demonstration on how to combine Wing Chun with Aikido

[@xZOAT]

Aikido "Ai" "Ki" "Do" translates to the art (or path) of harmonizing energy (ki). The goal of Aikido is not to clash with an opponent with striking but to redirect his force. It can be as gentle or harsh as the person wants it to be. The reason you don't see videos like this is because Aikido practitioners do not seek conflict in any form. They practice not so they can defeat boxers or MMA fighters in a ring but so they can defend their lives if the need arise.

[@Greenbat85]

really really nice! Long time I was looking for people mixing Aïkido and Wing Chun.

[@yuichan99]

Thank you. The level of my aikido changed from practice to a battle by favor.

[@ckmkaliguy]

Very nice work .. I'm a Wing Chin guy and have always thought that Wing Chun and Aikido would work well together..

[@PhanteusZ]

My sensei who has been practicing Aikido for more than half of his lifetime, has said it's best to focus on one martial art at a time. Mixing will only result in confusion and improper balance.

[@HipHopHead187]

ur right, there is a big difference in having 2 practice more than 1 discipline & merging them.

[@Kliever]

I know this will be a late reply, but wing tsun and Aikido have 2 very different philosophies. The Wing Tsun concept is that the Straight line between us is the shortest distance. While in Aikio is focused on circular movements and evasion

[@MrMuso1563]

Very good demonstration ;) I couldn't understand the Russian but they clearly demonstrated how effective both arts are. There seems to be some similarity with both arts.

[@mannatuu]

interesting combination . An intuitive extention and convergence of themes

[@5xing8gua]

Спасибо за толковый комментарий! "Герои" это видеоролика очевидно знакомы с боевыми искусствами весьма поверхностно, оперируют стереотипами, не зрят принципы соответствующих БИ, рассуждают о БИ с "высоты" техники, в то время как техника - это всего лишь воплощение принципа...

[@paulfournier4803]

dont forget that aikido is a gentle blending art rooted in very harsh daito-ryu aikijujutsu. wing chun combined with aikido/daito-ryu ajj is an awesome and powerful approach to self defense.

[@vokabresch]

he is trying to combine win-chun and aikido ... starting with win-chun "entrance" and then continuing with aikido techique. Motivation is that win-chun allows to easily grab hands and continue in aikido style

[@ssw4m]

I do not understand your language, but the video is very good and informative none the less. Thank-you.

[@rostislavstryncl8469]

Very nice combinations. I have my own self-defence club (I am black belt in Karate) and we use similar techniques. We prefer low kicks when opponent is approaching and after that we block his hands. But it is necessary to train hand separately.

[@raiden490]

i love all the comments about training #, i try to get 4-5 hours of it combact, weight lifting, doing flips and what not, plus conditioning, one thing i love about martial arts is even if i don't know what they are saying i still get it and learn from it

[@papoacosta3656]

Thank you for posting this !

[@CookieNectar]

Aikido and Wing chun are two of the most original martial arts. With others deriving from them Aikido and wing chun are rarely not used in the basis of a fight. From these two martial arts came the most important principle, centre line.

[@Wearemindfulmovement]

I love the simple approach of Wing Chun answer to a single telegrahed punch it will work every time if you (know) in advance whats coming at you how ever id like to see Wing Chuns defensive system when you are taken too the ground.

[@raduz123]

Very similar to what me and my brother do, we train in a style of ju jitsu that incorporates a lot of Aikido but also study kung fu, at first trying to mix the two seemed a little strange but they actually work very well together, many Aikido techniques are greatly enhanced by incorporating a counter move usually a strike first, simply to take your opponents mind of the move you are trying to apply. Have a way to go still but hopefully end up pretty good at both.

[@TacoLoco1000-ld5mo]

excellent demonstration

[@CurlyFrysGaming]

Very nice video. I enjoyed watching it, and look forward to seeing more.

[@voljinn]

Как же приятно, когда на камеру говорят без всяких "ааа", "эээ"

[@soulbrother08]

at last someone who speaks sense,people forget its not about going out and taking people apart,thats the movies,or for the mma people,actual traditional martial arts are excactly that arts from bygone days,you train ,learn and go on ajourney of evolving ur mind body and spirit.its not whether u r a black belt/sash etc its that you get the best from ur arts,ballet dancers show grace and skill through years of practise and sometimes painful training otf their art,yes ART.

[@robertb8673]

Wing chun to enter into Aikido technics works well. Both work on similar principles of energiywork. They got similar technics in tenshin aikido (Steven Segal's style).

[@osensei2987]

When you see Aikido practiced with the actual weapons then it all makes sense. The empty handed techniques are nothing more than drills that simulate the same lines of attack and the full commitment that one would use if wielding a sword (katana) or spear (naginata). I'm Shotokan, but I've researched far beyond my practiced style. The study of other arts helps me to understand my own art better. I don't simply rely on senseis to teach me. I want much more.

[@gabrieleJib]

great demostration masters! i hope many masters in future works in this mode, collaboration is important for MA Great video! great work! great tecnicque i respect you!

[@Wolfwent79]

No dislike here. Just wanted to point out that: 1) There are different styles of Aikido with different ways of how to handle your opponent. 2) There are many One-Hand-Techniques in Aikido as well. Or techniques that force the opponent to protect himself with his second hand. 3) I think the goals of Aikido and WC are different. An Aikidoka wants NOT to harm the opponent but to give the contenders time to think about their actions. If necessary, an Aikidoka can still incapacitate the opponent...

[@HiltonBoenosAires]

I don't speak russian, but i think the objective of this video is to show the best of some sticky hands of wing chun and other grab's and trow's of Aikido, all togheter. Am i right?

[@КонстантинПалыч-х6э]

yes, you are right. Yuri Kormushin(Wing-Chun master) tells that it is almost impossible to catch opponent's arm when he is striking in classic aikido, and Wing-Chun sticky hands technique helps in this case)

[@HiltonBoenosAires]

Everything makes more sense now, as i watch the video again, thanks man! =)

[@JoemarieTsinoy]

Wow i hope Both of this great Martial artist inspire the world That peace respect and unity is needed for this worlds Martial artist and fighters

[@christianm9894]

Nice demonstration! I think you don't need a technique if you are faster than your opponent and also have better reflexes. If you are too slow no technique in the world can save you from beeing beaten up. Still, I think that if you don't want to hurt others and still want to "defeat" them by exhausting them, then Akidio is a good way to achieve this.

[@SimonLeBonbonbon]

I know, a very close friend of me practices Wing Chung for 23 years now. To me, the differences between both martial arts are very clear. Wing Chung also uses defence, but is in is base more offensive and effective. The 'flow' is explosive and fast. Aikido can be also very effective, but demands less physical effort.

[@ninjauchiha9062]

these are both really cool martial arts forms

[@PhilogusRex]

I don't speak but a handful of words in русский, but I do speak movement and can understand the gist of the conversation. Both styles involve flowing redirection, it is interesting to see their synthesis.

[@boygolden]

Mushin no shin "without mind" or "without conscious thought". Mushin is achieved when a person's mind is free from thoughts of anger, fear, or ego during combat. A person is totally free to act and react towards an opponent without hesitation and without disturbance from any thoughts. And yet they say action is faster than reaction. Do you hear the sound of one hand clapping ?

[@innovention139]

I don't understand what he is saying, but the demonstration shows it all. !

[@MrNpalapas]

Wing Chun is the best principle that will teach you your own techniques. Thats where Bruce came feom and developed JKD.

[@arkhephilia9844]

Nice combination techniques,

[@sudhish2272]

This is a pretty good example of Wing Chun but not very good of Aikido (I've almost mastered both and know from experience) Aikido is more about grabbing like twisting and using the opponent against himself meanwhile Wing Chun is Contact but usually peaceful and Self Defence

[@ShavDance]

this is just a mix of both

[@sudhish2272]

ShavDance yea dude I speak from experience go master both and then come & tell me

[@ShavDance]

+Ralicx Gaming yea dude, go learn russian and then tell me

[@LastSifu]

If you were really a "master of both" you'd say that Wing Chun is a redirection of force. All martial arts are for self defense and only meant to be used when necessary. Wing Chun is based on techniques designed to defend yourself against attackers that are bigger than you, hence its creator is a woman.

[@sudhish2272]

The Last Sifu both are last resort meant only for self defence and many martial arts are made by females. Both arts are amazing but should not be used for provoking others.

[@HipHopHead187]

Da block & punch then da 2nd technique is Aikido( arm grapple).Learn da techniques & drills so that u can tell wat discipline or wat technique is bein applied. Wing Chun is an efficient system usin da least amount of effort & direct striking, as for Aikido focuses on arm grapples & throws.

[@robertrka1]

These wing chun techniques are great. I would liked have to have seen a little bit more " Aikido" also I believe to throw a straight punch you have to move with that punch also.

[@Kavafy]

What I would really like to see is some videos of aikido being used against a real opponent who actually knows how to strike effectively. Not compliant drills or hopeless, off-balance swinging. Why can't I find any videos like this?

[@youjanitube]

It is up to you if you are a blindly believe any of the styles can be compared but if ever fought for real you would know that when you are there the secret of success is not what you learnt but how you use it. All of these styles are inherited from a great master who could apply them without losing one single duel. The rest of the people learning it can only hope to get on this level. These style are only guidelines and in real case scenario things would happen different...

[@boygolden]

This is true after practicing Chi sao for a while. I was able to sense my opponent's next move. This is almost like mushin yet different.

[@robertb8673]

Yeah it's called tactile Reflexes. A Importent cornerstone of wing chun.

[@Samperor]

The sensei looks too happy. He must love his job.

[@telegroove]

This is how all martial techniques are learned an practiced...this isn't a brawl, it's a training session.

[@dellarias001]

These guys are cool. Productive friendly practice...

[@Silencer102]

Me and a Friend "fight as friends". He is an Wing Tsun (called?) "Sifu", and i have some Aikido Experiance. So if we fight a always say "that is realy hard to fight against you, because if i am not careful engough you get me so fast". BUT i have say that realy same to him. And it was realy Interessting we BOTH take technices from the other to learn from each other. Now i know some WT, and he takes little bit of my aikido. And yes we both say, that helps realy much! What i try to say is.. it is NOT like "aikido is better" or "WT is better", realy not! Its more, the mix of both martial arts make a realy interessting style!!!

[@RicardoKooh]

That is a good answer. Somehow, awkward one...because, for example you can recommend not to do ground grappling against an armed opponent, or against many opponents in a street scenario.But,if you recommend not to attempt trapping and jointlocks against a ground fighter,in a street scenario,howcan you know forsure if heis indeed a groundfighter(before being caught in anrear neckchoke in the ground).It is tautological.And also,many TMAs based in standing grappling, teach going toground as taboo.

[@italy74]

Interesting video showing different approaches to the same threat. I only wonder if the aikidoka - which looks not exactly fluid in his movements - knows a bit more than kotegaeshi... (would be nice to see some other technique, that is) I liked it, anyway.

[@Octopussyist]

You are right, but do you find that the Wing Chun man has more fluidity? I would like to see them make those techniqes work with an "uncooperatife attacker" who retracts his hand immediately, cocking it for the next punch and follows up with a second one. There are ways to make that work in Wing Chun, but it is not the way his footwork goes. And what Aikido is concerned: By punching in a natural way and retracting your hand like a boxer you can fuck up most people's Aikido technique. It is simply not designed for that. It is designed for subduing guys with samurai swords which is also why it is based on the same footwork as ken-jitsu. You cannot strike with a sword and retract quickly. Therefore it is convenient to force him to follow through and use that momentum. That neither works well against a boxer nor a knife-man making several rapid stabs. The socalled sewing-machine.

[@THEscenage]

I'm extremely impressed with this guy too. Wonder what Wing Chun lineage he is from

[@КонстантинПалыч-х6э]

his name is Yuri Kormushin he is apprentice of Sifu Didier Beddar

[@housamsinno]

7:47 here you dont need to do the complicated wing chun technique you can just grab his left arm and twist it above his right arm and then continue the rotation of the body this is called juji nage in aikido and i can tell you that even in the dojo it is hard to fall properly. In the street you will most probably brake both of your oponent's elbows and the throw its self will completely smash your opponent in the ground

[@FLCLimaxed]

Well i already knew wing chun was beastly, but i'd never even heard of Aikido till just now, i gotta say its pretty impressive itself.

[@nonfiction6419]

Wing chun fusionado con Aikido!!! Excelente!!!!

[@TheDestrotube]

wing chun is also uses the concept of "go with the flow",You have to just wait for the right time to attack the opponent.

[@HotPepperLala]

I think Aikido is more about locking, but Wing Chun is geared towards the hand movements with Chi Shao.

[@solidsnake8111]

Aikido and wing chun awesome mix

[@DAMONEWRIGHT]

i like his way of teaching

[@ferridave]

This is just amazing!

[@kevinjavier2793]

Combinación a mi parecer EXCELENTE

[@Leftyone78]

can you do this with subtitles please!! it's a great video

[@henry2450]

Wing Chun and Aikido combination would be epic.

[@jhune171000]

this is a nice combination aikido and wingchun

[@dignitas01]

Interesting that in the video the first technique shown is from Wing Chun and it uses two hands against one hand.

[@Budokid]

that might be a little hard, you would have to switch mindsets. martial arts are synergistic with themselves, so, you could mix arts with similar movement, like if they were more circular or straight line.

[@romerorv2008]

I enjoyed watching this. It's interesting to know that two types of martial arts have somewhat similar moves (wish i knew what i'm talking about here). Anyway, this video's really entertaining, plus, the guy in black shirt looks like General Zod from Superman: The Movie (1978). :-)

[@superfoot53]

These counters looks pretty good demonstrating,but the the problem is when punches are coming fast at you with not leaving your hand out there it is difficult to counters with these

[@spinthma]

Great! Thanks, it shows the similarties of different styles, very practical presentation - there may be some different models/styles handling body attack and defence - but the physics behind is the same so also a martial art combat style cannot be cover completely something new - we all have hopefully two arms and two legs; Also I think a Martial art syle nevery deloped in an isolated think-pool but the styles influenced more or less each other - KaREL

[@peposo7]

Like any martial art, there has to be a time in training, were you have to put your practice against a non-compliant opponent(or just sheer aggression). Most schools won't, so that's a filter. Steven Seagal is being said that put your skill against real time aggression. I think there's a video around here that shows one of his tests for a belt...

[@ogaihtps]

parabens concordo com os demais. aliar duas tecnicas tão diferentes é muito interessante.

[@Kavafy]

That's true to an extent, but the fact is that some martial arts emphasise low-percentage moves that are very difficult to pull off effectively against a resisting opponent. So yes, the style is important and there is such thing as a bad (i.e. impractical) style.

[@xZOAT]

There probably are the videos you are asking for. Some styles of Aikido are much gentler than others, while other looks like hard grappling training similar in some ways to Judo. It is not difficult to prove, in fact I told you the quickest, truest way to find the answer you are looking for. Find an Aikido dojo. Why watch a video? That's no answer. Feeling it first hand or even just seeing it in person however would answer your question.

[@guildwarsSNOW]

just reading through some of the comments. Keep in mind that there are a lot of rules in things like ultimate fighting etc. Many martial arts have techniques designed to maim and kill that you don't see being practiced for obvious reasons.

[@Rhobyn]

I didn't understand a word. But it seems he is trying to show capabilities/similarities between the two arts? That's is interesting and all, but I would say that apart from working with the core principles of martial arts (attack lines, how to have good tension in the arm, and such), they are very different. Mainly because they have different goals. It's very beneficial for both students to get together from time to time. But I don't see the two mixing very well. (In case that was the message.)

[@la7lu]

please more videos like this, online lessons maybe? I really liked the combination

[@raka0407]

maybe it would be better if you practice directly with the experts not online (only opinion)

[@matkasim]

great interpretation. used them. it works

[@xZOAT]

Please don't be ignorant. The origin of martial arts is this life and death struggle. The chances of somebody on the street threatening your life are fairly slim in most parts of the world today. In modern times, martial artists train in order to discipline themselves and keep this violent nature closer to their mind, in case it were to actually happen. Do not get me wrong, Aikido is not about hurting another person...except when they are trying to hurt you.

[@dman0044]

How about an American English version(dubbed).

[@youjanitube]

Those light punches can be very distracting when you are getting them on your face in such a speed. All styles have their own strategy and they all work in a sense, otherwise why would anyone invest so much energy learning to apply them? Those sticky hand works you are talking about are very useful in taking over control of your opponent's body/posture, you would not see it ever when it is applied in action. Just like aikido. Aikido exist only in dojo, outside it looks different, but works!

[@AggressiveHiDef]

Wing Chun is one of the greatest Martial Arts of all time. And can beat anything to date.

[@guird4]

some of the arm and joint manipulations, as well as certain choke escapes resemble aikido.

[@loceelen]

more effective is a strong notion, it depends on the individual. though one of my instructors is in the police force and said it is effective

[@NagareboshiFin]

Is the aikidoka from Yoshinkan aikido? Very nice video, thanks, spasiba...

[@xZOAT]

I have nothing to prove to you, just trying to enlighten you. I can only share with you what you are willing to receive. Best wishes

[@osensei2987]

"...but why do you think, there's not much trapping/jointlocking/standing submission grappling in MMAs combats?" Because ground fighting would neutralize any attempt at trapping or locking. But that does not mean that trapping and joint locks don't work. It just means that they should not be attempted vs ground fighters and that's all it means. Trying to trap or lock in MMA will always lead to being taken to the mat. But ground fighting is not always possible in street situations.

[@KindaLikeWater]

People who "challenge" Bruce Lee posthumously always amaze me. It'll never end. :)

[@RicardoKooh]

You mean, almost every aikido instructor doesn't know what he's doing, if you say that. And if it is a weapon based art, why is it rooted in aikijujutsu (ju-soft, jutsu-art, as many, many other weaponless TMA from Japan), and why does it teaches many weaponless situations? Well, it's only a point of view. Your answers have convinced me. You know your stuff, Sir. What's your MAs background? Best wishes.