WING SUNG 630 DEMO FLAT TOP MODEL

[@stephen_hynes]

You have a wonderful style - thank you!

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for watching!

[@WinnipegKnightlyArts]

The longer I've been collecting, the more I appreciate the hidden gems. I love my pelikan and my sailor, but there's a definite charm to things like a noodler's ahab that I had to tinker with and tune, but still brings me me joy when I use it even 15 years later.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for watching and sharing.

[@jd7713]

Well you have got me convinced. I ordered one today. Thank you

[@fountainpentherapy]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@LisaPottinger]

Thanks for the vid. I’m a huge fan of the Wing Sung 630. I already have all three colours in the original cigar shaped 630’s, including the gold nibs and they were all excellent straight out of the box. I’m waiting on my cigar shaped blue translucent 630 in the turquoise to arrive and after seeing this video I’m going to cave and get the red flat top! I agree with other posters that the steel nib is very unattractive but it writes very well. More like a very smooth, juicy, western medium. The gold nibs however are gorgeous. The heartbeat nibs is different to others in my collection, the standard medium nibs copied the Montblanc design except they replaced the 4810 with their inception date. The nibs also come in a plain version without the scroll work. All are very smooth with a nice bounce, but they tend to have a little more feedback than I prefer. This can easily be corrected with mylar / micromesh or a nibmeister. They are outstanding pens and I have to say over the last month I’ve been using them more than my Montblanc 149.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I am just curious about a comparison. I have been wondering if the gold nib was worth buying. Some have said that the difference is minimal.

[@LisaPottinger]

@@fountainpentherapy That hasn’t been my experience. However, the writing experience depends on the nib that you buy as there are several variations. I would say that generally the gold nibs are softer, with more bounce and more feedback. Very much like Sailor nibs. The gold standard medium nib is softer than the standard fine steel, which is much smoother with minimal feedback. I have a 14k gold broad heartbeat nib that has an architect quality to it and you can really push the tines. It’s not a flex nib but it’s pretty close. The line variation is amazing for a broad nib, almost comparable to my Pilot 912 FA nib. The writing experience with these nibs are different to the standard Bock / Jowo nibs that are ubiquitous in the fountain pen world. In terms of value I’m not sure the gold nibs are worth the additional cost because the steel nibs are so good but I was curious to compare the gold nib version with my Montblanc 149. The standard gold nib unit for about £100 is pretty good value compared to other gold nibs you can buy in the UK. Hope that helps.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks

[@faniro4792]

Fantastic video! This is the way I too select grail pens. Very well done, dear Vincenzo! I hope you publish more of these. For the record, when watching your last Weekly Recap, I saw this pen and heard you seemed to like it a lot. I decided to order it. It's on its way, thanks to you. Cheers.

[@fountainpentherapy]

More to come!

[@Shak-MD]

Hey Vincenzo. Great video. I like this line of pens-the nibs leave some to be desired. The cap is tight on 6 out of the 6 that I have purchased....including the cigar shaped one and also on the ebonite p600, and the one with gold nib. Something with their molding. It is not just your pen. Cheers.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for sharing! I am just curious about a comparison btw the steel and gold nibs. I have been wondering if the gold nib was worth buying. Some have said that the difference is minimal.

[@Shak-MD]

@fountainpentherapy the p630 14k gold nib was underwhelming. The 18k on p600 is soundly one of the best nibs in my possession. You should give it a go. 😀 I have the ef and am obsessed. The steel nibs do not compare.

[@kevinblack8365]

Agreed WRT the cap.

[@julianferrer6791]

Thank you! Very happy with my 630 teal cigar shape, same nib. Grazzi bello, arrividerci!

[@fountainpentherapy]

Great to hear!

[@DBachiniLima]

I bought the non-transparent version in February as a gift for my own birthday. I thought it was wonderful. I chose the flat top and it seemed better than the cigar shape. Besides, this flat design solves that problem of it looking too much like the Montblanc 149. I ended up putting the same Oxblood ink! But I've already put Kon-peki for a change. It was the highest price I paid for a new pen but it was worth it. What I do know about jun lai, is that it is the real company that produces these 6** series pens from Wingsung, which is a brand of the Hero group. On the negative side, I think it's just that it's impossible to put the pen inside Diamine's 30ml bottles.

[@fountainpentherapy]

But the inking problem is not the pen its Diamine's fault.

[@LisaPottinger]

@@fountainpentherapy I have a lot of pens that can’t fit into the Diamine 30ml bottles but there are easy solutions for this. Using an inkmiser, blunt syringe fill by removing the section, or using an inkwell. I have bought so many of the large 80ml Diamine ink bottles that there’s no way I’ll finish them all. The smaller 30ml bottles enables lots of ink experimentation without being saddled with an excessive ink collection that you’ll never finish. The 30ml bottles are also incredibly cheap compared to other inks while maintaining excellent quality and colour diversity. As a Brit I feel the need to defend the honour of the UK’s best ink producer😉

[@elborracho81]

Thanks Vincenzo, I have a feeling this will be the #1 Chinese pen of 2024! I love your wooden pen tray, have you considered doing a video of pen storage/desk accessories? I want a tray just like you have. 👍👍

[@fountainpentherapy]

Yes I have. Its in the pipeline. I will probably include it in one of my weekly recaps.

[@Sapta_Chakra]

Great! Bought one from Bobby (although the old model), eagerly waiting for the arrival! The nib imprint is much better in the dome-tops, I guess.

[@fountainpentherapy]

The nibs write great they are just not pretty.

[@elizabethevans5931]

Thank you fur sharing. I bought this in the cigar shape and am waiting for it to arrive .

[@fountainpentherapy]

Very nice offering from Wing Sung. They are quiet these days.

[@Toga_SV]

The Wing Sung #8 is my favourite of the big 3 Chinese steel #8's. I found it had a bit of bounce to it, almost like a gold nib. I do wish they engraved them better though. I've got to say, the demo version looks much better here than it does on their site. I might need to pick up one of them soon, but I fancy trying one of their gold nib versions.

[@fountainpentherapy]

The No 8 Jinhao Heartbeat nib (medium ) is also pretty good.

[@Goldilockszone123]

Hello Vincent. I have the cigar shaped pen with the gold nib. It is one of my favorite pens period. Your paper choice is also excellent.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Do you have one with the steel version? I am just curious about a comparison. I have been wondering if the gold nib was worth buying. Some have said that the difference is minimal.

[@donhall-aquitania1025]

I agree, this Jun Lai 630 is a marvelous pen that I’ve been using more than my Pilot Silvern that cost 10 times more and is my favorite.

[@LisaPottinger]

The Pilot Silvern is an awesome pen and in the top 5 of my collection. I’ve been using the 630 more too but I think that’s because I’m less concerned about losing it when I travel.

[@fountainpentherapy]

The Pilot Silvern. New to me. I will check it out.

[@LisaPottinger]

@@fountainpentherapy It’s a lovely sterling silver pen with an inlaid nib, similar to the Pilot E95S. Mine’s in the Spinning Raw Silk finish with an outstanding smooth medium nib. I absolutely love it. I treated myself for a significant birthday and it was definitely worth it. If you like Pilot pens I’d definitely recommend it.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I love my 823 but I was really disappointed with my E95S.

[@LisaPottinger]

@@fountainpentherapy I love my 823’s too. Best value for money pen on the market in my view. The only similarity between the Silvern and the E95S is similarity of the inlaid nib. The E95S is just too short and not girthy enough for my personal preference. If you prefer a wider pen then the Silvern may not be for you.

[@konradyearwood5845]

For the threads try adding a slight dab of the grease, run the pen in and out a few times, then wipe the threads on the barrel dry as you should not need to soak the threads in grease.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Will try and let you guys know if it worked.

[@RJayRoberts]

As others have commented, that red demonstrator looks really good. It's a shame the nib is a bit scuffed, though apparently it's well tuned. I'll take well writing over shiny.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Great writer.

[@Penul15]

Another great review. Not sure it's the best Chinese pen - I love the Asvine P36 and V200 - but this looks like I really need the 630. Agree on flat top look.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Good choices.

[@kevinblack8365]

Vincenzo, nice review and agree. Didn't even know there was a flat top version. This indeed feel like a quality fountain pen. Just received my cigar shaped version (AliX turn around to Australia is now less than a week and half of that time is in Australia) and was pleasantly surprised as well that there is a small converter like container full of lubricant included in the package. It writes exceedingly well, is well made and worth every penny of my AUD$50 I spent on it. The instructions in English might have been useful, but I get the drift. Can't say I got the additional extra shim.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@kevinblack8365]

@@fountainpentherapy And just a couple of additional observations after a bit of usage that tie in with your review. 1. The nib has some spring to it, more so than any other steel nib I have with a good amount of feedback. 2. Whilst it says 0.5mm-0.7mm mine is definitely leaning towards the 0.5mm . 3. It is plenty wet. 4. It is actually bigger than I was expecting and bigger than the Jinhao X159 I have. FWIW

[@emprendimientoyproductivid3514]

I have tried V126, Majohn T1, Lamy Safary, Jinhao 9016 and 9016, at the end the wing sung 630 is my favorite.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I can see why.

[@ShahriarFarkhan]

Thank you for the review - You're the third person to mention the cap threads are mushy/sticky. Chrisrap52 also mentioned the capping feel. I have two solid 630s and they are wonderful pens

[@fountainpentherapy]

The pen is a nice one and I am willing to live with it.

[@ShahriarFarkhan]

@@fountainpentherapy I may wait till the version 2 of the pen - Wingsung improves their models over time, which is cool.

[@kevinblack8365]

I seem to have the same mushy thread issue. When I put the cap on I counter-clockwise it 'til it clicks so there is no chance of cross threading.

[@katieevans6017]

The one I bought had a great nib, no scratches, embossing was clear. Great pen, but I think I prefer the Jinhao nib on the 9019, although that isn't a piston.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I think the NO 8 Jinhaos are more consistent from order to order. You basically get the same great quality.

[@Soul_Watcher]

I’m wondering if this has something to do with the red resin. I have a Monteverde, I believe it is, with the possibly the same resin. The same thing happens when capping. That is one of my pet peeves about Wingsong pens. The terribly dull and scratched up nibs. I love my 699 yet I find myself not reaching for it because every time I do, I’m disappointed when I look at that nib. Cheers

[@fountainpentherapy]

The problem exists with all the colors apparently. But its a great writer.

[@graylingboysalisbury]

I think the days of being mugged for top end pens is coming to an end. Nice video V.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Could very well be

[@mizquilter]

I enjoyed your video! I looked for one of these pens, but I didn’t find any vendors yet.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I have links to the vendors in my description.

[@mizquilter]

Thank you; I found the pen and ordered it!

[@ericneal8582]

I really love that there is a barrel-shaped option for this type of pen. The cigar just isn't for me. Thank you for the review!

[@fountainpentherapy]

Glad you enjoyed the review and appreciate your feedback.

[@shane6242]

I am enjoying my blue one...same issue with the threads. I have a suggestion, but it comes with a disclaimer...**do at your own risk** I put some toothpaste on the threads and capped/uncapped it for a few mins and it's perfect now :)

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for the tip! I hear talcums power, pen grease etc. This is a new one. I will try it.

[@ilikepens]

The threads on mine are not smooth as well. I believe it is the translucent material that causes it. I think it is a softer material, so the threads are not cut as cleanly as on the opaque, harder material.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Its annoying but the rest is really nice.

[@phillewis3108]

I don't have a t housand dollar pen, but i do hace this pen and an 823, and I have to agree... Much as i like my 823, i do sometimes wonder where the extra $300 went...

[@fountainpentherapy]

I agree that there are plenty of less expensive pens that provide plenty of fountain pen therapy. The Indian pens and Chinese pans are excellent alternatives.

[@Ilus01]

I have the same issue with the capping, I don’t know if it’s by design or just manufacturing flaw.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[@Ilus01]

@@fountainpentherapy My first one is the blue demonstrator, my red solid arrived yesterday and no caping issue at all. How can that be?

[@teresaharris-travelbybooks5564]

The red resin is spectacular. Except for the nib, it's an expensive looking pen.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Indeed. Its a great writer. Very comfortable and chunky with No 8 size nib.

[@paulmchugh1430]

I love my 630. I have the rounded top version. The nib is very nice with nice feedback. Is it comparable to the MB 149? Not really but from Wing Sung it should be their flagship pen Very good review, Vincenzo.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Stay tuned for my Part 2 on grail pens. I will review my grail pen alternatives and one of the grail pens is the 149.

[@michaeltihon3485]

Very nice review. May I ask you the blue ink you used for the demo in your MB 149 ?

[@fountainpentherapy]

I am afraid I cannot recall.

[@Абусупиян-й1й]

Wing sung 630 flat top or hong dian a9 or hong dian n12? Who you favorite (other pen)?

[@fountainpentherapy]

I would go with the 630 and even the flat top all because of that number eight size nib

[@Абусупиян-й1й]

​@@fountainpentherapyBut the hong dian a9 also has #8 nib.It's no better wing sung #8 nib?

[@francescomotolese4644]

I love the cyan translucent version but maybe its to big fir my hands.... Greatings from Salento(Puglia) Ciao🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for sharing! Grazie!

[@fountainpenworld]

Fair review. It's on my pondering list now. What bothers me about WinSung, Yong Sheng, Jun Lai is the lack of information about the brands. What's the reason for 3 different brand names, as they obviously all come from the HERO Company of Shanghai. In general all these chinese brands keep general information about themselves, their product lines, upcoming novelties and the like that close to their vests that I got the feeling those are top government secrets. It seems to be a cultural thing. What keeps me still away from pulling the trigger right away is the fact that all suppliers of that pen became members of my "black sheep" list. During the 3 yrs I'm using Ali, many vendors easily made it on this list. There are various reasons a seller can hit it. Evasive, useless or even no answers, late shipping (because they don't have stock, simply passing the order to a stock keeping dealer, working on a commission basis only but never mention the real leadtime - a buyer get this info when the money has been sent) and many more. Now prices on Ali have been raised significantly but the sometimes lousy service and the missing respect for foreign customers will continue.Well, just my own experiences.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I have stopped overthinking all this. The pens I have ordered in the last 2 years are affordable, durable and for the most part really nice pens.

[@davisrand756]

I used automotive rubbing compound on my 630 threads, worked it back and forth for a few minutes, then wiped off. It was tight before, now it's as smooth as silk.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for the tip. Now I just have to figure out what exactly is automotive rubbing compound. LOL

[@craft-o-matic399]

Good morning Vincenzo, It's difficult to convince me to purchase anything that is made in China. However, that nib does seem to provide a delightful writing experience! I noticed that it's possible you took my advice regarding the improvement of your cursive handwriting and have begun practicing with French Ruled (Séyès) Paper from Clairefontaine! I see a vast improvement mi amici! By the way, what lovely blue ink are you currently using in the Montblanc? Have a wonderful day Vincent! Lisa

[@fountainpentherapy]

Practice almost everyday. I want to use the paper for my reviews but viewers feel all the lines are distracting. I will from time to time use the paper for my review. The ink is either Diamine Florida Blue or the ink from the youtuber Wet Pen.

[@craft-o-matic399]

@@fountainpentherapy I would only use the French ruled paper for practice, but that's just me. Of course, you could always show off your improvement in your videos periodically.

[@craft-o-matic399]

@@fountainpentherapy Thank you for the ink information. I will have a look. Lisa

[@craft-o-matic399]

@@fountainpentherapy I purchased a TWSBI Eco with a Medium nib from Goulet Pens today.I have samples that have shimmer and/or sheen and I want to be safe playing with them. This makes pen number 3 for me. My other nibs are a fine and a medium fine.

[@ricfraser7436]

Great video, might tempt me to buy this one. Just wanted to say, be careful posting the M1000 as I find the cap scratches the body very easily with the threads when they make contact with the barrel.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Thanks for the tip.

[@LivingArmor196]

Is it worth it to buy the nib and use it in another pen?

[@fountainpentherapy]

There are other choices if we speak of nibs. I would prefer the Kaigelu nibs over this one. Its the entire package that incited me to buy.

[@LivingArmor196]

@@fountainpentherapy Thanks Vincenzo! I will try a Kaigelu on a Jinhao 9016!

[@stathkon]

From where did you order it?

[@fountainpentherapy]

Aliexpress or Etsy

[@stathkon]

@@fountainpentherapy i didn't find it at AliExpress. What's the full name of pen?

[@fountainpentherapy]

follow my links in my description. click on the wing sung 630 and you will see all the models including this one.

[@zeus52452]

Vincenzo, if you haven't seen the video yet, chrisrap52 had a similar issue with the threads on a transparent black barreled 630 which you can see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYTahHWAh8yIsK8 It would seem the threads on the transparent barrels was changed and they failed to change the threading of the cap to match which makes it slightly off. And here I was thinking about getting the flat top model, but now I'll be biding my time!

[@chrisrap52]

Yes, I found the clearer barrel threads to not be as good as solid color barrel. I put silicone grease on threads, little improvement. I capped & uncapped many times, little improvement. Just seems to be a feature of this model.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Just saw your video and you even tried to match round top to flat top. Interesting.

[@stevenmatchett252]

Heya! Do Yourself a favour & purchase a bottle of Diamine "WRITERS BLOOD" ! It's basically a darker version of the gorgeous "OXBLOOD". It's one of My favourites. Also I think that Diamime "RED DRAGON" would've been beautiful in the this Subject Pen. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE FOUNTAIN PEN COLLECTORS COMMUNITY. I REALLY ENJOY YOUR CONTENT. GOODAY.

[@fountainpentherapy]

I have the writers blood but will look into Red Dragon.

[@veejay-Vee_Jay]

Prova a lubrificare la filettatura del cappuccio con un pò di polvere di talco, come si faceva una volta con i regoli calcolatori per avere movimenti micrometrici e fluidi del cursore. Anche se la presa sulla penna eliminerà nel tempo il borotalco su un lato della filettatura, il movimento sarà comunque fluido per molto tempo senza inficiare la tenuta idraulica. ----- Try lubricating the cap thread with a bit of talcum powder, as you used to do with slide rules for micrometric and fluid cursor movements. Although the grip on the pen will eliminate talcum powder on one side of the thread over time, the movement will still be fluid for a long time without affecting the hydraulic seal.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Interesting. Now I just have to see if i can find any talcum powder in the house.

[@jd7713]

I bought one. Nice pen but shame about the nib. Doesn’t write smooth.

[@fountainpentherapy]

Sorry to hear that

[@Bulldgz52]

Is it me, or is the box stolen from Lamy.

[@fountainpentherapy]

It certainly appears to be.