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Wings of Pegasus

Wings of Pegasus

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@glennwilson9956
@glennwilson9956 10 ай бұрын
Imperfection has been proved to be perfection for almost every hit song with a singer in history. That is why they were a hit, no acoustic instrument is perfectly tuned, no human drummer is in perfect time and usually it's the singer that is the most distinctly off tune/beat/melody of them all. Mistakes and imperfection are what make us human they can express emotion, set scenes, cause tension. For example, we all know what it is to take a breath when we hear it or growl or sigh or have our voice break/falter with emotion as we talk about the people we have lost. To "clean this up" to this extent is to rob the listener of why we sing in the 1st place.
@bélalugrisi
@bélalugrisi 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that's Sheryl Crow on keys and vox
@shawnk7832
@shawnk7832 10 ай бұрын
But the Beatles maybe were the best at this!
@myoldmate
@myoldmate 10 ай бұрын
Mate, you have eloquently made one of the best responses I've read. 👏 Pitch perfect is an unattainable goal, and it doesn't matter, regardless of the instrument. It's all about performance, passion, interpretation, and most importantly engaging and entertaining. The/ your, audience don't whittle away at, or even care about the minutiae, they're just there and want to appreciate and enjoy, and go home happy.
@UKcanuck55
@UKcanuck55 10 ай бұрын
"To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable." - Beethoven
@Rabijeel
@Rabijeel 10 ай бұрын
Yep. And the reason for that is that the "imperfections" make the Uncanny Valley go away. Auto Tune and Pitch Correction is throwing Sounds in the uncanny Valley.
@ToMPaSHKoV
@ToMPaSHKoV 6 ай бұрын
Pitch correcting a good singer is like painting over antique hardwood floors. Sand it down a little, then seal it in with a clear coat. That goes for singers as well.
@jacksfavorite4808
@jacksfavorite4808 10 ай бұрын
The vocals that lie right on the note line are vocals that sound like an ambulance siren that is stuck.
@vocalbooth8585
@vocalbooth8585 12 күн бұрын
Stats to sound like cats mating as well lol😂
@M0odyBlue
@M0odyBlue 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Fil, for helping me to “tune” my listening. There is a reason I didn’t respond the same way to more contemporary vocalists and now I know why. When you know, you know.
@MsAppassionata
@MsAppassionata 10 ай бұрын
Same here.
@sierraseven3680
@sierraseven3680 10 ай бұрын
"No longer a human voice." That's it exactly. Pitch correction takes emotion out of singing.
@dermur68
@dermur68 9 ай бұрын
Don't worry - now that AI is reproducing voices and creating lyrics, we don't even need humans and their "imperfections" anymore. RIP music. One more year and it'll be officially dead.
@mark4asp
@mark4asp 8 ай бұрын
@@dermur68 The emotion's still there. It's just ain't honest.
@dwftube
@dwftube 6 ай бұрын
You are so right. I always say 'it hits the note, but misses the soul'
@ohger1
@ohger1 10 ай бұрын
Scooching a wee bit off topic although not totally, but while he didn't have the best set of pure pipes, Nat King Cole sings the most beautiful and reverent version of O Holy Night I've ever heard. And I say "reverent" without even being religious.. Instead of showing off and seeing how many runs and how much vibrato singers today do, it's like Cole is describing the birth of Christ as he's seeing it first hand.
@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609
@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609 5 ай бұрын
I get you completely. I was coming down here to comment on the artifice of her performance and of how many people (mostly 'Murricans, tbh) who perform hymns (whether sacred or secular (I am not a fan of the rather militaristic US anthem, but the famous version in which Fergies sounded as if she was trying her best to seduce the soldiers was...something else)) even if they do not do it on purpose at least SEEM to try to be seductive. I do not like that at all.
@mikeydflyingtoaster
@mikeydflyingtoaster Ай бұрын
I actually really enjoyed Bastille's version as well
@Dan-dg9pi
@Dan-dg9pi 10 ай бұрын
Fil, thank you for this analysis. Almost from the first 10 seconds, it was clear that this was a machine voice. It is not alive. It is a travesty.
@philirwinskifortyfive1798
@philirwinskifortyfive1798 9 ай бұрын
Pitch correction removes the beauty.
@pamr4040
@pamr4040 10 ай бұрын
The "computer alarm" comparison was spot-on...grates on my nerves! lol Auto-tune/pitch correction hurts my head. Some of the music they play at work drives me crazy, while my coworkers never even seem to notice. Natural voices are unique and beautiful...leave them alone! ❤🎶
@ranaraeuchle6485
@ranaraeuchle6485 10 ай бұрын
I hear so many people denying the effects of auto tuning and pitch correction on music, saying it's just the new phase of music. However, we need to think about what the legacy of music from this era will be. With all our cameras adjusting our images, art being made "better" by AI, and songs no longer sounding like the singers...
@jeanreed1975
@jeanreed1975 10 ай бұрын
You're explaining why Carrie's voice sounds "metallic" or harsh on her recordings. Thank you. The technician does her no favours!
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 6 ай бұрын
the technician didnt even correct every note..sloppy work actually!
@F8Tributo
@F8Tributo 9 ай бұрын
I never wanted to see Celine Dion, but my wife dragged me to Las Vegas, and I was blown away! Her voice was amazing, better than any of her recordings that I had ever heard. I would think that all possible tricks to make her sound better could have been implemented in the studio, or post production. So I think why she sounded so great live was, that no recording can capture the nuances of her vocals.
@JohnLnyc
@JohnLnyc 6 ай бұрын
I would agree. She is a remarkable singer. One note of caution. Her vocal in Vegas was likely very carefully “processed” from choice of microphone, mixing board, PA/amplification, and an highly skilled adept audio engineer…to your ears! If she’s gonna sing “perfectly” she wants everything to be, perfect!
@CarinaPiersay
@CarinaPiersay 9 ай бұрын
It’s so sad because she has an incredible voice.
@davidh1970
@davidh1970 10 ай бұрын
This is criminal. I got to see Carrie perform last spring. Her voice is incredible and doesn't need pitch correction/autotune.
@Wee162
@Wee162 10 ай бұрын
How do you know her performance wasn’t auto-tuned or pitch corrected? Routinely done in live performances, too.
@newnoggin2
@newnoggin2 10 ай бұрын
99% chance her live performances are auto-turned
@robertsole9970
@robertsole9970 10 ай бұрын
It was processed and pitch corrected in real time.
@gabrielveron2850
@gabrielveron2850 9 ай бұрын
@@newnoggin2that is ridiculous
@Schaneification
@Schaneification 9 ай бұрын
She lipping it
@jefferycullum2710
@jefferycullum2710 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Fil for educating those of us who enjoy music but didn't have a clue what autotune and pitch correction are actually doing. You have opened my eyes to how the industry is doing a disservice to the artist and conning the end listener.
@desmit6
@desmit6 9 ай бұрын
Hey @Carrie Underwood. I genuinely hope this comes onto your radar… this should be in any performance/recording contract you sign. She has an awesome natural voice. The vibrato actually hurts my ears.
@johnhawkins_twa
@johnhawkins_twa 10 ай бұрын
Please keep in mind that a lot of tv networks autotune everything without letting the artist know. This happened to Dave Draiman of Disturbed when they performed The Sound of Silence on Conan. He was furious when he found out.
@pjj9491
@pjj9491 10 ай бұрын
❤i would be mad as well...love Dave
@kristiswa
@kristiswa 10 ай бұрын
The NERVE! What kind of soul...if any...do these butchers have? They are not capable of recognizing emotion in a singer's voice. Leave David alone, you heathens.
@vichraev.5386
@vichraev.5386 9 ай бұрын
It's become so ingrained in the modern media industries that they don't even think to ask. It's just assumed everyone wants it because it's so "AWESOME".
@ihavenoidea81
@ihavenoidea81 9 ай бұрын
i haven't seen anything where he referenced that performance and autotune. where did you read this?
@wildboy365
@wildboy365 8 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@katherinea.rodgers8366
@katherinea.rodgers8366 10 ай бұрын
She has a very good voice on real life. I've said it many times that pitch correction is not progress. Thanks, Fil for this analysis. Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year!
@MartinMartin-yi9to
@MartinMartin-yi9to 10 ай бұрын
How do you know? Chances are she uses playback live.
@OwnedByACatNamedC.C.
@OwnedByACatNamedC.C. 10 ай бұрын
@@MartinMartin-yi9toShe performed many times when she competed & won American Idol way back in 2005. As a singing competition, contestant’s voices of course were not altered when they competed in The Voice & the other TV talent shows. Anyone who watched those shows, or has listened to her sing prior to this performance could have formed their opinions of her talent over the last 18 years. It’s quite possible, if not probable, that at least some of her performances have not been pitch corrected or auto-tuned over her long career.
@MartinMartin-yi9to
@MartinMartin-yi9to 10 ай бұрын
@@OwnedByACatNamedC.C. And you really beleive they're not lypsyncing on TV? Yeah.....TV worked on you and your opinion isn't worth a thing. Cheers!
@charlesmontgomery7002
@charlesmontgomery7002 10 ай бұрын
@@MartinMartin-yi9to : (
@coryCuc
@coryCuc 10 ай бұрын
@@MartinMartin-yi9to How does she know? Maybe she had a private concert in her home? How do you know she hasn't?
@veramilton833
@veramilton833 10 ай бұрын
What a sad and shameful thing to do to Carrie Underwoods voice. I have seen her perform live , and she has a beautiful and powerful voice ! I have a question, does an artist have any say in whether their voices can be pitch corrected ?
@stephenbaldassarre2289
@stephenbaldassarre2289 10 ай бұрын
Not really, except for indie artists. I did live sound for a band with a top 40s hit at the time and they gave me a copy of their album. The singer E-mailed me to ask what I thought about it. I said almost every song on it was great but it didn't sound anything like them live. They were GOOD live too. He replied "we're not allowed to talk about the engineering but I agree."
@veramilton833
@veramilton833 9 ай бұрын
@stephenbaldassarre2289 ..How very sad ! 😔
@Alecmonster3
@Alecmonster3 9 ай бұрын
I was today years old when I realized "live " performances we don't witness live are a lie. I stupidly assumed they didn't mess with them..what a disgrace.
@stephenbaldassarre2289
@stephenbaldassarre2289 9 ай бұрын
@@Alecmonster3 Sadly, most pop acts these days are just lipsyncing to pre-recorded vocals.
@dinahlee3793
@dinahlee3793 9 ай бұрын
You have to realize EVEN LIVE PERFORMANCES ARE PITCH CORRECTED. THAT'S HOW FAST THE COMPUTER KICKS IN TO DIGITIZE THE VOICE. NOBODY...BIG NAMES...THAT YOU'RE HEARING, IS REAL. LIVE PERFORMANCES ARE FAKE TOO. YUK. I AM A "NOT FAMOUS" JAZZ SINGER...I WOULD FORBID IT.
@chrishelbling3879
@chrishelbling3879 10 ай бұрын
Man, if ever there was a song that DIDN'T need to be belted, this one takes the cake.
@SuperMoofie
@SuperMoofie 10 ай бұрын
Agree, but 'belting' mostly shouting is the thing these days. Somehow you're a fantastic singer if you can shout. You can tell the difference when a singer projects their air from the diaphragm and not the chest. God that top note was screechy, ouch!
@pninnabokov3734
@pninnabokov3734 10 ай бұрын
PRECISELY! I couldn't find the words and I can't thank you enough for hitting your nail on the head!!! Thank you and God Bless!❤
@norsechick
@norsechick 10 ай бұрын
She's a show off that way. I find her belting annoying AF. She usually ends up sounding like a stuck crow somewhere along the line.
@ranchodelreyband167
@ranchodelreyband167 8 ай бұрын
Seth Mcfarlane nailed it at the Oscars when he said they had time backstage for a bit as Adele was still busy out there shouting at the audience.
@Meezer
@Meezer 7 ай бұрын
​@@ranchodelreyband167 truth!
@B_YT-f1x
@B_YT-f1x 10 ай бұрын
Well done Fil. The eye roll at 14:34 cracked me up … followed by the exasperated, “ohhhhh …” … both of which sum things up perfectly. Cheers!
@Water_is_Sacred777
@Water_is_Sacred777 10 ай бұрын
Celine Dion in 1998 sang her version of O Holy Night live. It's here on YT. It was as near perfect as a human can get. Nana Mouskouri's 1970's version of Ave Maria is chilling to the bone it's so pure. Both women sang live just as exquisitely. It is possible for today's professional singers to be, well, professional. I always learn something new on your channel. I know nothing about the modern technology used in performances these days. Thanks for your hard work! I'm late again as I don't use notifications.❤
@SuperMoofie
@SuperMoofie 10 ай бұрын
O goodness! Nana Mouskouri! Her voice was incredible! Lovely to see her remembered and mentioned.
@pninnabokov3734
@pninnabokov3734 10 ай бұрын
Dion makes cats abort and wolves eat their own. Praise heaven she's giving us a respite from her insufferable yowling.
@Water_is_Sacred777
@Water_is_Sacred777 10 ай бұрын
@@SuperMoofie ❤
@metsogrand
@metsogrand 10 ай бұрын
This is my favourite song and Celine performs it best . She has so much left at the end ,Michael Crawford got there also with a thinner voice . Mechanical was my first thought here .
@jv-ep2tc
@jv-ep2tc 9 ай бұрын
Dion is my go to version. Her singing was an acquired taste, but now I’m hooked.
@jilltaylor3990
@jilltaylor3990 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the analysis. As ever, really illuminating . I really cannot understand this level of pitch correction, it’s sad. I found some of it this painful, robotic even. I want to hear a ‘real’ voice.
@magnificentfailure2390
@magnificentfailure2390 10 ай бұрын
I come from a very musical family. Four women and five men. My next-elder sister basically owned this song while we were in school. Year after year, choir directors kept having her solo on it, so I got awfully used to hearing it perfectly done by an amazing mezzo soprano voice. In the 1990's, Rickie Lee Jones did it with The Chieftains and her voice was perfectly broken. I think it's the very best rendition available, because the whole reason Jesus came to Earth was to redeem the broken. I'm not even religious, but I can recognize perfection when it slaps me in the face.
@peteannells4218
@peteannells4218 9 ай бұрын
Compare and contrast: just listened to Aled Jones singing this in 1985. I am not a fan of church choirs or solo choir boys but it is a breath of fresh air after the 'android' version.
@markrinehart8813
@markrinehart8813 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Fil. I didn't need to watch, or hear the voice, to know what was happening the expressions on your face spoke volumes. Very entertaining, and fun, just watching you.
@bookcraver1
@bookcraver1 10 ай бұрын
I just went to the KZbin performance of Carrie Underwood doing this same song on Jimmie Fallon's Tonight Show and the difference is astonishing! The other is obviously not auto tuned or pitch corrected and it's a million times better! Shame on whoever thought they were "fixing" her voice here.
@patriciasnyder6915
@patriciasnyder6915 9 ай бұрын
You are so gracious in your analysis. Sometimes, i would like to hear your first reaction without your normal restraint. 🙂 Wish I had your ability to hears the notes as you do..
@123Rockchild
@123Rockchild 10 ай бұрын
Wow. I did not see this coming for Carrie Underwood. Her singing voice seems to be held in such high regard, but this is very surprising and disappointing for me. On a lighter note, Fil’s eye rolling @ 13:11 is priceless! 👁️ 👁️
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 10 ай бұрын
I bet she didn't know
@thecurbsidechoir8783
@thecurbsidechoir8783 10 ай бұрын
love the eye roll !!!
@luvastandardbred8270
@luvastandardbred8270 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@luvastandardbred8270
@luvastandardbred8270 10 ай бұрын
​@@oldermusiclover I bet she did.
@estherhendrix9697
@estherhendrix9697 10 ай бұрын
Those eye rolls tell the story.. so painful to hear her voice just trashed!
@marlachristensen2076
@marlachristensen2076 10 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the Wingers Fil!
@hannahpumpkins4359
@hannahpumpkins4359 9 ай бұрын
This is such a shame - my partner's sister sang backup for Carrie, and Carrie's voice is so awesome she doesn't need pitch-correction at all.
@PoubelleKansas
@PoubelleKansas 9 ай бұрын
That's been my impression as well. She's done some incredible vocals in live performances that surely weren't pitch-corrected. That this great hymn, which can really show off her voice if allowed to, was stepped on in this video, is a disgrace. Fil did some stuff on Michael Buble a while back and made similar comments on a Christmas song Buble had sung. You'd think Carrie would have more say in all this.
@johnjulian88
@johnjulian88 5 ай бұрын
I believe you😊
@Jojo-o6o6w
@Jojo-o6o6w 4 ай бұрын
i found her voice piercing, not in a good way.
@kellypickle
@kellypickle 10 ай бұрын
Carrie Underwood & Vince Gill - "How Great Thou Art" Live performance. Imperfectly perfect maybe they use pitch correction I don’t know. It doesn’t sound like it to me. She’s flat a few times. but it doesn’t matter. It’s so beautiful I mean having Vince Gill play guitar and sing back up is a pretty good idea as well, but I’m just saying this woman is capable of delivering a fabulous performance without this.
@laurindabohrer2806
@laurindabohrer2806 9 ай бұрын
That performance is beyond outstanding. I don't believe there is any pitch correction to that live performance. This is one of my most favorite performances ever and that says a lot.
@WENDYBUTCHER-uv2nd
@WENDYBUTCHER-uv2nd 5 ай бұрын
I get chills just thinking about that performance, I can remember exactly where I was the first time I heard/saw the video via a link someone had posted on social media. We play it every time we have a 'KZbin' night.
@MagnumVideos
@MagnumVideos 10 ай бұрын
ANOTHER GREAT ANALYSIS FIL! You are obviously an expert at this topic. Glad I found your channel.
@xondxonderson5784
@xondxonderson5784 10 ай бұрын
Breaks my heart when I hear remastered versions of the music of my youth (70's) that just don't sound right. The pitch correction, added compression, rebalancing done post production absolutely removes the humanity from the music.
@zorrgal
@zorrgal 10 ай бұрын
Try the opera singer Jussi Björlings version of the same song but in swedish "O Helga Natt". Recorded way before pitch correction. He was Pavarottis favorite.
@carlhellesen9866
@carlhellesen9866 10 ай бұрын
Yes to that. Compare the two. No one does it better that Jussi
@SuperMoofie
@SuperMoofie 10 ай бұрын
He did a beautiful duet with Robert Merrill of the Pearl Fishers. No duet has been performed batter, since.
@Psifvan
@Psifvan 9 ай бұрын
Being swedish I might be partial but Jussi’s version is the only one I’ll ever need.
@davidgould9431
@davidgould9431 9 ай бұрын
A 'plus' here from me - I was coming to suggest it, too.
@panrudzki454
@panrudzki454 10 ай бұрын
"Now a human voice is a piano" - I think this sums it all perfectly. I miss the old times and old performances
@dallasdaniel8809
@dallasdaniel8809 9 ай бұрын
I love listening to you. It is so educational and you have such an adorable personality.
@randyinghram5550
@randyinghram5550 10 ай бұрын
Sometime get a listen to Gary Puckett (Union Gap) doing this song. Always loved his voice. This song was on a one time only Christmas collection. He was qoted to have said that "This is my favorite song".
@TheFtm22
@TheFtm22 10 ай бұрын
My new motto - "I've been waiting all day for Fil to rant!" Sung to the tune of "Hate Myself for Loving You" which is used for the Sunday Night Football theme song by Carrie Underwood. 😊
@DawnLenn
@DawnLenn 10 ай бұрын
Well, that was painful 😬. Only for you would I sit through that whole thing!
@tammydoolittle6054
@tammydoolittle6054 10 ай бұрын
I dont know why the label companies want to "perfect" an artists voice, all it does is take away the emotions that the singer is trying to portray in his/her song. This time I caught that this song was pitch corrected before you answered the question, and i saw it on the pitch monitor too. Again, I'd rather hear the singers natural voice, flaws and all because that's what makes the song beautiful. Thank you Fil, for this excellent analysis! 😉👍
@R.Akerman-oz1tf
@R.Akerman-oz1tf 10 ай бұрын
Good eyes/great ears. Thnx Tammy.
@tammydoolittle6054
@tammydoolittle6054 10 ай бұрын
​​​@@R.Akerman-oz1tf Thank you! I heard Carrie's voice and knew right off the bat that it was pitch corrected, and I saw it on the monitor. Carrie's voice is much better than that. I don't have it all figured out, but I'm still learning. 🙂
@johnwatson2887
@johnwatson2887 9 ай бұрын
What I've learned from Fil's videos is that they do it to save time/money . When recording in a studio it might require many "takes" of each song to get topnotch performance of all parts of the song. This takes more, expensive, studio time. Then they have to pay the editor to pick through all the tracks to find the best parts of each and edit them together seamlessly. With the computer software approach, they can record the song a couple of times and let the computer do most of the editing.
@R.Akerman-oz1tf
@R.Akerman-oz1tf 9 ай бұрын
Elementary Sir. Producers can be obsessed by perfection too.@@johnwatson2887
@rebelrocker7494
@rebelrocker7494 9 ай бұрын
Hey Fil Just Wanted to say Merry Christmas and Have a Safe Rockin New Year, Always Watch & 👍
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! You too!
@Elaine_Parhamovich
@Elaine_Parhamovich 10 ай бұрын
"Wow. Just wow. We have a NEW 'WINNER'!" Got that right Fil! This is shameful. Does anyone know of any song she's sung that hasn't been pitch corrected? I'd really like to hear HER voice, her natural singing voice.
@bobc7066
@bobc7066 10 ай бұрын
I would too. I cried during this performance. What a voice she has.. It is a shame that some decides to pitch correct her.
@veramilton833
@veramilton833 10 ай бұрын
I have seen her perform live . Carrie has a beautiful and powerful voice ! This pitch correction just ruined this song !
@Psalm1267
@Psalm1267 10 ай бұрын
@Elaine_Parhamovich It would be interesting to see the waves on her stage performance in The Sound of Music.
@mariannemaloneywitherspoon6335
@mariannemaloneywitherspoon6335 10 ай бұрын
Elaine, you said exactly what I was thinking. It’s so painful to listen to this which is just the opposite of why we listen to music. Merry/Happy Christmas 🎄 to you, Fil and all the subscribers. 😊 4:25
@schex9
@schex9 10 ай бұрын
They can fake live performances, too. Celine Dion does not sing that big note from the Titanic theme live at her shows. That one note (or part of the line) is a recorded, studio version. You can see it in analysis videos.@@veramilton833
@maryasbury7814
@maryasbury7814 10 ай бұрын
That is one of my favorite songs but when I first heard her singing this I thought immediately it didn't sound right.I heard it a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for covering this. I love your videos.
@bxf99999
@bxf99999 10 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to view a well-presented video from a knowledgeable person. Thank you.
@WoodlandT
@WoodlandT 9 ай бұрын
It’s such a shame they insist on doing this. Carrie has a great voice with quite admirable pitch naturally. They made her sound like a glitching alarm of some sort. It’s so annoying
@rickfromthecape3135
@rickfromthecape3135 9 ай бұрын
100%
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 10 ай бұрын
I recall a singer from the 1960s said to the producer I am not happy with my singing but the producer said it gives the song character the whey you sing it.
@marlachristensen2076
@marlachristensen2076 10 ай бұрын
@ 7:50, I like your discussion on controlled vibrato vs natural vibrato. I have never thought of this aspect of vibrato.
@lasentinal
@lasentinal 10 ай бұрын
I think that it would be interesting to what would happen if both the pitch corrected and uncorrected performances were released.
@jevinday
@jevinday 10 ай бұрын
I love that you ACTUALLY discuss why they might use pitch correction. It's just strange because you think she probably has great pitch naturally
@lornestein7248
@lornestein7248 10 ай бұрын
"It's so perfect that it's imperfect".. Perfect description.
@benzell4
@benzell4 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis, yet again! Thanks Fil, been awhile Thanks especially for the update on auto tune v. pitch correction; Modern music is so disappointing...
@bobturnley2787
@bobturnley2787 10 ай бұрын
She was amazing when she was on American Idol 18 years ago.
@myoldmate
@myoldmate 10 ай бұрын
She still is.
@MsJimmysgirl
@MsJimmysgirl 10 ай бұрын
Wow I am shocked. I didn't think that country singers used auto tune and pitch correction as much. She has a beautiful voice and her voice doesn't need to be produced.
@sunnydays8270
@sunnydays8270 10 ай бұрын
How do you know? Her vocals were probably 'produced' since day 1.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 10 ай бұрын
She is such a great singer. A person's normal tone is what brings life, emotion, realism. Perfection cannot bring that. Thanks Fil😊🎙🎼🕯🌜⭐️
@freespiritwithnature4384
@freespiritwithnature4384 10 ай бұрын
I love the original music video / song that Carrie Underwood sings with John Legend called "Hallelujah." It's also sung in a church, so I wondered if that one was tampered with, especially with those acoustics. It's so mind-blowing to me that professional singers have no say about anyone messing with their songs. Excellent analysis. Nothing surprises me anymore , unfortunately.
@paulmackenzie1850
@paulmackenzie1850 10 ай бұрын
Wow is correct....actually very sad. The "sound engineers" have actually taken her personality out of her real voice. It is blatantly obvious as you have demonstrated in your video. I would rather hear a singer on an off day than a pitch corrected song. The human part of singing, whether flawed, or off key sometimes can actually be very pleasing in my humble opinion. I appreciated how you were still kind to Carrie. Thank you again for an excellent analysis. ROCK...
@SafeMoneyTrends
@SafeMoneyTrends 10 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas, Fil. Thank you for gifting all of us way over here with your delightful insights. You're my weekly Music Appreciation class.
@osagejon8972
@osagejon8972 10 ай бұрын
My voice coach told me early on that I would develop a critical ear in two regards. First pitch correction becomes easier to detect and the performance sounds sterile, or mechanical. Second performers today may not sound as good as older performers because they just aren't as disciplined with the pitch correction safety net. I personally like live performances as they are always a bit different and remind me nobody is perfect but we can strive to be.
@Serenaluv17
@Serenaluv17 10 ай бұрын
Phil you are awesome. I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you.
@lrpelkey
@lrpelkey 9 ай бұрын
it won't be long before pitch correction can (and will) be done so subtlely and so true to life that there won't be any telling, not even with another machine analyzing. and right behind that will be machine performances functionally equivalent to real, incorporating all the characteristics that make truly great performances great. i'm not ready for the Brave New World.
@roseyc.5846
@roseyc.5846 10 ай бұрын
The combination of your expert analysis and your actual reaction IRL is fantastic. Thank you, Fil... great, as always! Stay safe and sane, etc. Rosemarie ❤
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that no one is going to be following the link to listen to this performance uninterrupted...your "interruptions" were the only thing that made it bearable. I think you're right, this has got to be the new winner for most overly pitch corrected performance. Judging by your 8 eye rolls, several winces, and one actual groan of dispair, I could see how very painful this one was for you, and understandably so. 🤦‍♀️🙉🙄 And surely 8 eye rolls during one video has got to be a record!!
@jodaso
@jodaso 9 ай бұрын
The explanation is really interesting. Thank you for all the details.
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 10 ай бұрын
have loved this song for many many years used to love to play in on the piano found a good sent of music that was in the key of C sadly that piece of music was lost with all my other music when we moved years ago thanks Fil
@gu1tarman233
@gu1tarman233 9 ай бұрын
I can hear the processing in the timbre of the voice when corrected without needing to see the notes visualised in software. Thanks for the explanation about the mouth shape and consonants etc..
@RonWesterbeek
@RonWesterbeek 9 ай бұрын
9:20 struck me it sounds limited/compressed too, feeling her vocal intensity that is. Great answers Fil. Merry Xmas to you and all of us. -Don't Bflat, Bsharp 'n 🤸‍♀️ Rock !
@chrisphillips8480
@chrisphillips8480 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your channel Fil….keep em coming :)
@joynjrny
@joynjrny 9 ай бұрын
Another artist succumbs to the beast. It’s so perfect it’s unbelievable and therefore intolerable. The human voice is like playing a violin not a piano. Great analysis.
@EdConnelly8247
@EdConnelly8247 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Fil. I love the way you defend the artists in your analysis. I can't imagine anyone who has a better handle on this subject. I love Carrie Underwood. I hope she sees this and is able to do something about this in the future. Your videos should be mandatory in music colleges.
@chipbailey4610
@chipbailey4610 10 ай бұрын
I wish you would examine David Phelps version of O’Holy Night. One of the best versions I have ever heard.
@jilldevereaux9104
@jilldevereaux9104 3 ай бұрын
You’re absolutely right! I hear what you are talking about. Very interesting video.
@josephkowles1990
@josephkowles1990 9 ай бұрын
I love her ! Voice of an angel
@bevboersen5778
@bevboersen5778 10 ай бұрын
I have wondered why I am not moved by a beautiful voice, now I know. The emotion has been removed. Thanks Fil.
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 10 ай бұрын
Fil if you want to hear her real voice check out a video of her and Vince Gill sing How Great Thou Art it will give you chills
@joannewalker4843
@joannewalker4843 10 ай бұрын
I love your cheeky grin while listening to those 'perfect' pitch corrections!
@1SeanBond
@1SeanBond 10 ай бұрын
A Fantastic view Fil and Spot on! This truly is eye opening as where is music heading like a Rock Band that just supposedly retired, then become Avatars? Where is creativity or artistry in it? Music naturally has some flaws & or Tone imperfections that's what I love about music. A great view and so well articulated. Ty Cheers! 🍻🤝🏼✌🏼💫
@peachespavalko1980
@peachespavalko1980 9 ай бұрын
Howdy again from across the pond. Hope you're having a fantastic holiday season. Happy New Year to you! I'm super-late catching up with videos, but I'm about to dive into this. As a sidenote, I always look forward to Sunday night NFL here in the states because she sings the opening kickoff song and it never fails to get me rockin'!
@Timmy1825
@Timmy1825 10 ай бұрын
I saw Carrie in concert about nine years ago and she was excellent. I don’t know why they feel they need to do this. I’m sure she can do a tremendous job that would have more feeling without the pitch correction.
@margaretmuenchau5450
@margaretmuenchau5450 10 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! You are the best! You give us so much to think about when listening to music! I guess I am lucky because the ones I think are really good singers, according to you they really are! Like Karen Carpenter, Bobby Darrin, Jay Black!
@chrishelbling3879
@chrishelbling3879 10 ай бұрын
...OK, I had to go listen to the Andy Williams version just now. In addition to everything you mention about pitch, there are such differences in timbre, dynamics, use of melodic decoration (slides, twangs, fry), and especially lyrical interpretation. "Fall on your knees..." one sings it as an invitation with humility, while one sings it as a threat. And don't get me started on "O hear the angel voices..." Bravo again, Fil. Merry Christmas to you & yours.
@M0odyBlue
@M0odyBlue 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your comment-made me smile!
@cherylthompson7157
@cherylthompson7157 22 күн бұрын
I have always been grateful for recordings of beautiful voices for everyone to enjoy always. How sad to know to really hear this beautiful voice you have to see her live.
@anitapeludat256
@anitapeludat256 10 ай бұрын
WoW Fil, I've learned so much from your clearly defined explanations. And your own voice demonstrations . The mechanical sound I can now hear clearly in this case, is "nails on chalkboard" irritating to listen to. Mechanical also translates to a metallic type sound to my ears. Reminiscent of a violin bow on an actual wood cutting saw. Some people can make that paring sound musical, some cannot.
@just_passing_through
@just_passing_through 10 ай бұрын
I don’t know why they do this. This performance is almost unlistenable. Every note just grates on my nerves.
@Shelley550
@Shelley550 10 ай бұрын
Defeats the purpose of singing😬
@Moluccan56
@Moluccan56 10 ай бұрын
Oh, that melisma or what ever they call it? Just hold a note, already!
@Ann-vi5ns
@Ann-vi5ns 10 ай бұрын
Strongly agree. She has a lovely voice - but you wouldn’t know it from this rendition. 😡
@jacqueline1598
@jacqueline1598 10 ай бұрын
​@@Ann-vi5ns🎯
@bluenick4577
@bluenick4577 10 ай бұрын
Compare tom jones live performances from 1960s and today’s performances it’s absolutely embarrassing
@RLU-wt8vi
@RLU-wt8vi 10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said. The perfect voice is actually IMperfect.
@larabeach176
@larabeach176 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Fil. I'm not sure if I had heard this one from Carrie, or if I had I wanted to forget it. I normally enjoy Carrie's singing and would of been excited to hear her sing this beautiful song. Loved the analysis!
@scottjohnson8801
@scottjohnson8801 10 ай бұрын
Another awesome analysis from you. Thanks for sharing your insights on this topic. And all of your topics
@m.harrison2151
@m.harrison2151 10 ай бұрын
Now, do yourself a favor, check out Home Free All Vocal Band (acapella) singing “O Holy Night”! It’s stunning & even though it’s a few years old the guys sound the same when they sing it in concert. They are on their Christmas tour at this time. Their harmonies will blow you away! You REALLY need to hear it!!! The official video in a beautiful church is spectacular!!
@Zacnorman1
@Zacnorman1 9 ай бұрын
Hey Phil, I appreciate your depth of understanding of the performance and production of of the artists you review. I tend to think along the same understanding, but you go beyond what I have been able to learn. 🗣
@stevenholt4936
@stevenholt4936 10 ай бұрын
I would love you to do an analysis of this carol sung by Leontyne Price - no auto tune, no pitch correction, just sheer beauty.
@pninnabokov3734
@pninnabokov3734 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for directing me to Ms Price. It was a glorious rendition of that extraordinary song. 💖
@georgekaravasilis9197
@georgekaravasilis9197 9 ай бұрын
You said it all Fil... another great video, thank you !
@katherinewelling6026
@katherinewelling6026 9 ай бұрын
So sad that the record industry does this. I really miss hearing ‘imperfections’. I hate to use that term because it’s more like perfections and identity. Thanks again, Fil!
@doonbiz
@doonbiz 9 ай бұрын
Great job, Fil, with a great explanation and example of how pitch correction and autotuning (for the most part) ruin a singers organic performance by making the voice too perfect, computerized. You really explain a concept so it's entirely understandable. Thanks for the education (as always).
@mypaulhenry2666
@mypaulhenry2666 10 ай бұрын
Loved the eye roll Phil.
@kathyvangogh4034
@kathyvangogh4034 9 ай бұрын
You are brilliant. Thanks for doing this. So interesting.
@terrisalser7721
@terrisalser7721 9 ай бұрын
Please listen to David Phelps sing this live from a concert from 2000 No artificial anything used, just his beautiful tenor voice
@fredinaz
@fredinaz 10 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for doing these - it’s really fascinating!
@QBAN2010
@QBAN2010 10 ай бұрын
My favorite Christmas Carol….RUINED! You’re killing me, Fil….! Rock!!!!
@QBAN2010
@QBAN2010 10 ай бұрын
If your gonna kill me, at least give me more Jo Stafford. That is some off pitch singing I can get behind…because I’m Stayin’ Alive! Rock!!!!!
@margaretlawlor1632
@margaretlawlor1632 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Fil information very much appreciated
@bélalugrisi
@bélalugrisi 10 ай бұрын
That is painful
@Jojo-o6o6w
@Jojo-o6o6w 4 ай бұрын
i found her voice piercing, not in a good way.
@isabellepantelll5004
@isabellepantelll5004 4 ай бұрын
You just nailed it on the head. I feel like every time I try to get into music nowadays I get bored and eventually go back to “old school” singers/bands/etc. because there’s so much more emotion and sincerity and relatability in their vocals.
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