THIS is actually an artistic disgrace. Why do it?! (Rant alert!)

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Wings of Pegasus

Wings of Pegasus

Күн бұрын

Tonight we're taking a look at Eric Clapton performing Layla live back in 2015! But something else caught my attention!
ORIGINAL VIDEO - • Eric Clapton - Layla (...
TIME STAMPS -
0:00 Intro
0:42 Performance
3:02 Analysis Start
3:23 Fret Buzz for Style!
6:24 Transition into Main Riff
7:57 Intro Lead (Part 2)
9:50 The Vocal (and... Auto-Tune Rant!)
15:48 Eric's Barre Chord Technique
19:06 Performance (Second Half)
21:16 Lead Subtlety
22:16 The Final Insult!
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@m.denonsens
@m.denonsens Жыл бұрын
Agreed!! Creative control is worth everything. Eric Clapton having his voice altered by the record company is outrageous. Older artists whose voices have changed need to be heard as they are, like Johnny Cash when he sang “Hurt.” I would love to hear what he really brought to this version from his lifelong musicality and maturity, the same way he brought it to the guitar playing in the performance. Autotune kills interpretation.
@sheatiller2465
@sheatiller2465 8 ай бұрын
Autotune can actually be a real artistic tool imo, but the way Melodyne and other pitch correction tools are used especially with older artists (E.G. The Who's "WHO" album, The Beach Boys' releases and some of their their solo work post 2010ish, and Queen's live releases) usually sounds awful. I don't believe the technology can possibly handle a voice's subharmonics in a way that doesn't dip into the uncanny valley in human perception.
@swarkamal
@swarkamal 3 ай бұрын
I so agree that auto tune is interfering with he voice and essentially life of the artist. Look up the Japanese aesthetic of an imperfection in any art as a needed value. It says something about us. Auto tune tech is a commodity driven value but not one of meaning.
@retrogroovecraft
@retrogroovecraft 3 ай бұрын
@@swarkamal Wabi Sabi, is as 'blues' as it gets.
@hifibrony
@hifibrony 3 ай бұрын
Robert Plant doesn't pretend his voice is what it was 45 years ago, so he rearranges parts to fit within the range he still has. That is called artistic integrity.
@rhiannonhill
@rhiannonhill 3 ай бұрын
A lot of older artists never had vocal coaching so they didn't realise that there's stuff you need to do DAILY to keep your voice. A lot smoked, or vaped etc. NOOO! I'm 73, I take very good care of my voice and as a result of what I have learned I'm singing better now than I did in my 20s, AND more range, as I've had a bunch of coaching. My last singing teacher told me his Dad sang professionally into his 90s! There are things in the ageing process that would spoil your voice of course, but I still think people don't know how to maintain it. Gentle singing every day is a good start, hydration, and please, artists whose career was built on Throat Voice, they're the ones who go down first. As for the fret buzz, OMG doesn't Eric have a guitar tech????
@littlejohnny4759
@littlejohnny4759 2 жыл бұрын
Fil, you just can't contain your appreciation for the talent of other artists. I love watching you light up when you hear something. Thanks for great contributions.
@jilcooper9619
@jilcooper9619 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t he a doll as he listens?? Every video; he loves music and what he does!!
@davidcritchley3509
@davidcritchley3509 6 ай бұрын
I love seeing his passion. Even if I don't understand the technicalities myself.
@michellefederico4510
@michellefederico4510 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you! I just love watching him through these performance analyses. He has such an appreciation for music of all genres and any age! And, he has an impossibly lovely smile. A joy to watch.
@53lyric1
@53lyric1 3 ай бұрын
@@michellefederico4510 I agree with you 100%!!
@TheColdrush22
@TheColdrush22 Жыл бұрын
You are the most polite “ranter” on earth. Love it!
@lechat8533
@lechat8533 Жыл бұрын
I can`t put into words how much I admire your knowledge, talent, attitude, kindness, and professionalism. It must be such a joy to have you as a teacher.
@lechat8533
@lechat8533 Жыл бұрын
@First Last Doesn`t one need adverbs to describe someone or something ?! But what can I say? Of course, you are right My comment is a contradiction in itself. I was aware of that while writing it... LOL
@OLLiGoldeaux
@OLLiGoldeaux Жыл бұрын
...just take it !
@jilcooper9619
@jilcooper9619 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t Fil the BEST?? I learn so much. And his joyful smile as he listens speaks to his love of music.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 5 ай бұрын
@@lechat8533, One needs _adjectives_ to describe something. Your original comment is fine. I don’t know what the (now deleted) reply was, but it probably wasn’t necessary.
@ukebox00oftheworld63
@ukebox00oftheworld63 3 ай бұрын
Can't you?
@Incandescentiron
@Incandescentiron 2 жыл бұрын
I hate auto-tune. I expect an AI to sing perfect notes. I expect humans to be imperfect. That's generally what makes all the performers voices unique.
@SsspraakForsskkarring
@SsspraakForsskkarring Жыл бұрын
Correct, analog players is what is important, not if your pedal is analog.
@ffggddss
@ffggddss Жыл бұрын
Yes! But I would substitute "expressive" for "imperfect." Fred
@entspec
@entspec Жыл бұрын
You hate, badly done auto-tune. If it's done right, you'd never know, unless the original performance was so bad you had to tune nearly every word. Eric Clapton has NEVER to my knowledge given a performance that would warrant such a thing. But I agree with you, I hate that "is this a person or a keyboard demo" vocal sound your get from overuse of auto-tune.
@markallen2984
@markallen2984 Жыл бұрын
@@ffggddss What is frequently inspiring about art, is the human striving for unattainable perfection. That is the nobility in it: that is why it is admirable, that is why it is inspiring. To reach for something that exceeds the artist's grasp is to exercise, honor and acknowledge the divine aspect of the artists' nature.
@DarbyF
@DarbyF Жыл бұрын
Auto tune destroys what's great about Blues and Rock. Never the same way twice. Perfection is in the mistakes.
@lazlomattachine8334
@lazlomattachine8334 2 жыл бұрын
You’re spot on here Fil, Autotune is the modern soul vacuum, sucking the humanity from music one “correction” at a time. Such a drag….
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 Жыл бұрын
Its blues for goodness sake!
@carlmarks8170
@carlmarks8170 Жыл бұрын
Eric Clapton is the 20th century soul vacuum, sucking the humanity from music one album at a time.
@rodneyketsa8554
@rodneyketsa8554 Жыл бұрын
@@carlmarks8170 So true, has the heart of a business man, not a blues man!
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 Жыл бұрын
I hate it because it ruins a great concert or singer for me.
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 9 ай бұрын
When people play the organ they're playing an autotuned instrument. I don't mind autotune at all.
@PaisleyPatchouli
@PaisleyPatchouli Жыл бұрын
Clapton has always been a blues singer. Who the hell would decide to auto tune a blues singer? It's all about the nuance and the notes between the notes. I wonder if this footage is available without the auto tune?
@musicadesilva
@musicadesilva 9 ай бұрын
Someone literally heard a blue note and thought "WE SHOULD TUNE THAT"
@Rick-the-Swift
@Rick-the-Swift 2 ай бұрын
The irony being it was probably Eric who wanted to auto-fix it. Try being 70+ years old and getting up in front of a bunch of people to perform a classic, then tell me you wouldn't entertain the idea of auto-tune. Even if Eric doesn't do all of the production and editing, he certainly would be the one who made that call, or at least he gave it the ok after it was done. Most artists do it now a days, but you just can't always tell, like you can here, which actually adds to my point. You see, the worse the performance, the more obvious the auto-tune becomes detectable. And conversely the better the vocals were originally, the less obvious it becomes. See how that works?
@Dekoherence-ii8pw
@Dekoherence-ii8pw 2 ай бұрын
@@Rick-the-Swift People managed for thousands of years without autotune.
@Rick-the-Swift
@Rick-the-Swift 2 ай бұрын
@@Dekoherence-ii8pw People also lived in caves and huts thousands of years before autotune. See how that works? Nothing against caves, huts, or autotune. Just sayin 💆‍♂
@lorimontcalm9086
@lorimontcalm9086 Жыл бұрын
Fil I love the smile that breaks through as you watch something you really like, or when the video gives you an excellent example of what you want to emphasize. Keep on smiling!!!
@CrankCase08
@CrankCase08 3 ай бұрын
Gay.
@lorimontcalm9086
@lorimontcalm9086 3 ай бұрын
@CrankCase08 what is THAT suppose to mean? And what bearing does it have on my comment? Perhaps you've aptly named yourself.
@ziblot1235
@ziblot1235 3 ай бұрын
He really does have good taste in music
@Keyspoet27
@Keyspoet27 3 ай бұрын
​@CrankCase08 Judgmental jerk. Nothing wrong with gay, fyi.
@loraineashton4899
@loraineashton4899 3 ай бұрын
Yep your right that smile
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent analysis on how Auto Tune has killed the feeling from the original human voice that was recorded on the night of this performance. also love the little details you point out that we might have overlooked. thanks Fil. 😊
@suelucey9621
@suelucey9621 2 жыл бұрын
Cher
@christinerobinson9372
@christinerobinson9372 2 жыл бұрын
That is really pretty scary when you think about it, we may all become deaf to the shades of expression we use!
@bigtone1348
@bigtone1348 2 жыл бұрын
I blame Cher for popularising this awful fad.
@bryangipe1
@bryangipe1 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same when cd's first came out to replace vinyl lps, lost some feeling in the music...
@essbee2316
@essbee2316 2 жыл бұрын
One of the Spice Girls did a Solo album. I read a review where they said it was auto-tuned so much she sounded like a dalek! Some people shouldn’t be allowed into a studio!
@mrindecisive100
@mrindecisive100 Жыл бұрын
'If it ain't broken, fix it' is the modern day mantra. If somebody needs auto-tuning, then they shouldn't be singing in the first place.
@ElsieDee001
@ElsieDee001 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jmillen69
@jmillen69 3 ай бұрын
Eric Clapton was nearly 70 yrs old when he did that, and has been playing for a lot more years than you have been alive. Who the F#@k do you think you are that you can critique a music legend. If he wants to use auto tune so what. Go back to mummys basement and keep practicing.
@foxholiday4308
@foxholiday4308 3 ай бұрын
That's only half true....um... nobody sings "on the line" , Tom Petty for instance, people may say he's not a great singer or Dylan, or a million others who aren't Whitney but, I'm not sure why this is now industry standard, there are a million people who are flat on all of our favorite records....i dont know what happened, why pitch correction is "needed"
@EvelynBaron
@EvelynBaron 3 ай бұрын
@@foxholiday4308 I agree totally. Petty and Dylan are definitely 2 of my favorite artists, and this is subjective I know, just a matter of taste but the power ballads of Streisand and Whitney et al never were my thing, possibly because when they did duets with other singers it always sounded like a competition and sort of pointless IMO, just me. But definitely, autotune, pitch correction very bad thing and here, desecration.
@foxholiday4308
@foxholiday4308 3 ай бұрын
@@EvelynBaron yeah Whitney isn't really my thing either, but I can definitely appreciate the almost pitch perfect performances she gave, probably as close to being on the line as you can get, Mariah too...or Celine but if they came out today they would be pitch corrected and really I don't understand why, when cher did it was an effect it wasn't to fix a voice, it's all the imperfections that make music magical
@DrMcFly28
@DrMcFly28 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if someone went smoothing out the lines in an artist's paintings or sanding down their sculptures, just because they feel it makes them more pleasing to the eye.
@u2buserusingu2b95
@u2buserusingu2b95 3 ай бұрын
Changing Picasso's paintings to be more symmetrical. 😲😭
@manonymous4737
@manonymous4737 3 ай бұрын
sharpen up Van Gogh's sunflowers a bit. It's a bit blurry, isn't it?
@mikezooper
@mikezooper 3 ай бұрын
True! Mona Lisa’s smile shouldn’t be ambiguous, we must Photoshop it!
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 ай бұрын
I think that is actually, in a way, exactly what is going on. The rise of DAW software introduced a strong visual element to recording and mixing for the first time. I've seen it happen many times with mix engineers who just can't stand it when the transients of say a live drum take don't sit perfectly on the time grid, or when certain notes are a cent or two off the exact pitch. Despite the take already sounding fantastic and full of energy when you ignore the visual element.
@grangrampa832
@grangrampa832 2 ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with his original voice
@Kaotiqua
@Kaotiqua Жыл бұрын
As a singer, I'd be positively livid if I was autotuned by some tech. The entire artistry of a vocalist is in the "life" of the voice. The grace and emotion is in the hints of dissonance. Tragic abuse.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 5 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of dissonance. I think that auto tune creates dissonance, when I hear its mechanical artifacts.
@rcandrews4334
@rcandrews4334 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I am a subscriber. You are a class act in your picking apart a song without ripping into the artists. Well done.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelward9880
@michaelward9880 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@peterjones4621
@peterjones4621 2 ай бұрын
I just can't get into this version of Layla. I was 16 in 1970 when Layla came out and I freaking loved it, it was a great time in my life and the song brings back so many good memories. I still listen to it often, never gets old, but this new version bores me to tears...snore. Thanks for the video Fil!
@MrClassicmetal
@MrClassicmetal 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. That acoustic version sounds lame to me. It lacks that edge. In fact, almost _all_ acoustic versions of rock songs are kind of weak.
@juliehooper2350
@juliehooper2350 2 ай бұрын
I also agree. The original version was full of intensity and angst that corresponded to my teenage imagination. The one band I thought did unplugged versions really well was Nirvana.
@TKing-ph7bq
@TKing-ph7bq 2 ай бұрын
If there wasn't the original Layla and this version had come out I don't think it would have been considered anything more than a boring filler song.
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 Ай бұрын
You don't say anything about the _original_ acoustic version, though. What do you think about it? *MrClassicmetal* says that almost all acoustic versions of rock songs sound weak to him --- do you agree? My recollection is that the MTV Unplugged version of Layla was _apparently_ almost universally appreciated. The Unplugged version was the first one that I heard, but after many years of listening to it _and_ the original, I honestly believe that the Unplugged version is a better rendition of the song --- just like I believe that the Carnes version of Bette Davis Eyes is superior to the original.
@MrClassicmetal
@MrClassicmetal Ай бұрын
@@bricaaron3978 Although the one in this video is even worse, I never quite understood the popularity of the original acoustic cover either. One guy who did play great acoustic _covers_ of popular songs is José Feliciano. Because he's a fantastic guitarist, and he his playing was adventurous. But in general acoustic renditions of popular songs are lacking. It all sounds so safe and generic. It's not much different from elevator music.
@redpine8665
@redpine8665 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when Jimmy Page was putting together the live Zep release "How the West Was Won". A young producer was in the booth with Page and remarked how Bonham missed a beat and he was going to "fix it". Page flipped and told him to leave it alone! Saying "If he dropped a beat, it's because he meant to!"
@johnnynbk
@johnnynbk 2 ай бұрын
Great album
@fredjones7425
@fredjones7425 2 ай бұрын
Yes, there are mistakes on every Zep album, some more obvious than others. It's what happens when humans make music. The humanity adds to the experience.
@redpine8665
@redpine8665 2 ай бұрын
@@fredjones7425 I heard Down By The Seaside probably a hundred times and never noticed a mistake until a musician friend of mine pointed out where Page missed a chord completely around 4:40.
@allrequiredfields
@allrequiredfields 2 ай бұрын
​@@redpine8665 Im obsessed with Zeppelin and I can tell you there are genuine mistakes all over the place. And I'm not going to pull any of that 'bUT ThE miStaKEs maKe iT beTteR' it's that they just don't matter, and fixing them wouldn't make the song any better. On top of that, changing even the most minor of details would INSTANTLY stand out to anyone even moderately familiar with their songs because they're so ubiquitous.
@glenncbjones
@glenncbjones 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Fil, Your musical analyses are both enlightening and by turns hilarious! Your genuine respect for those artists you review is quite obvious, so when you have to offer criticism of choices, technique or production, your comments are always rife with love, humanity and respect! Watching you juggle both appreciation and disgust is a thing of beauty! Stay the course young man… In regard to the whole “auto tune” and pitch correction business, I still think that “Dark Forces” are at work here, trying to suck all of the joy and spiritual nourishment out of our music! But they didn’t reckon on you, Fil! Keep on doing what you do so well, and the forces of nescience and entropy don’t stand a chance! - Namaste, Glenn
@jodidavis6595
@jodidavis6595 2 жыл бұрын
Well said 👍🏼
@sue9197
@sue9197 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ictengineer738
@ictengineer738 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Glenn wholeheartedly, Fil's passion for the art and respect for the artist both shine through in this analysis. I don't understand who it is in the music industry believes running auto tune software against Eric Clapton performing "Layla" live at the Royal Albert Hall is a good idea.
@marnaehrech1223
@marnaehrech1223 2 жыл бұрын
Glenn, well done!! The dark forces have come after us through every avenue of human existence. But when they changed the "A" tuning standard from 432 hz, a frequency which is in harmony w humans, and Nature, to 440, a frequency which is DISSONANT to humans and Nature, that really sealed it. Evil. We need to go back to tuning that is life-affirming, not threatening us.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You know this guy!
@yellowcatgallery
@yellowcatgallery 2 жыл бұрын
I took that intro as a homage to George Harrison. It is a sitar sound over the buzzing or droning bass note. After all, both men loved the woman the song was written to honor. He is honoring his friend. Probably one of the most moving parts in this entire performance.
@eduardonovacki1755
@eduardonovacki1755 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your comment just blew my mind. Thanks!
@imtijamir8054
@imtijamir8054 2 жыл бұрын
To set record straight, Eric is a backstabbing wife stealing man, not a friend, never. People love same person all the time, only people like Eric does what he did to George.
@gingeoram
@gingeoram 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought that same thing exactly!
@rodjones117
@rodjones117 2 жыл бұрын
Great observation - even if he didn't do it consciously it's there. (Not saying it wasn't deliberate - it may well have been)
@Peter-oh3hc
@Peter-oh3hc 2 жыл бұрын
Would love Fil to look at that song. Remember thinking "you can't do that"
@MikeGarveyBlues
@MikeGarveyBlues Жыл бұрын
Damn. Once you hear it you can’t stop hearing it! As you say, this is not an artist that needs auto tune and it’s the tiny imperfections that give everything character. Can’t even begin to imagine how angry I would feel if someone applied this to my performance without asking!
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 Жыл бұрын
He is not my favorite voice, but AutoTune ruins it for some performers.
@RuminatingWizard
@RuminatingWizard 11 ай бұрын
Clapton sucks
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL 9 ай бұрын
so much autotune in music. Once your ear learns how to spot it, you can hear it in song after song by 100s of artists
@chrismowag6919
@chrismowag6919 6 ай бұрын
I would argue that he wasn’t just asked, but that he gave the go 😉 maybe it was the artist after all who decided and is not in line with self-acclaimed „purists“. Just a thought …
@seansinger640
@seansinger640 2 ай бұрын
If they did it without my knowledge, absolutely. That's unacceptable. But are we really imagining he didn't have the final word on the entire production process for this? If it sucks, it's on him, and the piss poor job the hack engineer did implementing the "pitch correction." This tuning job the audio equivalent of using a chainsaw where a butter knife would do, if the person had never used a chainsaw before and also had late-stage Parkinson's.
@fretbuzzly
@fretbuzzly 7 ай бұрын
Indeed. The beauty of a live performance is in the imperfection. I don't like any perfection if it can be helped, even in the studio, but particularly in a live setting I want to hear the actual performance as it was and not someone else's interpretation of how it should have been. To me some of the greatest moments in music come from the "mistakes". It gives the music its character that pulls you in.
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with perfection is a long as its natural because the performance was actually perfect and not made perfect after the fact .
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 3 ай бұрын
It's not even another person's interpretation of how it should've been. It's a bloody machines.
@bgrass13
@bgrass13 3 ай бұрын
Neil? Is that you? 😂 Anyway, great comment!
@nancy9891
@nancy9891 2 жыл бұрын
Eric doesn’t need auto tune. Snapping the notes inhibits his trailing voice that is soulful. He sounds more like Randy Newman instead of himself. Not necessary.
@lemonnlimelight2760
@lemonnlimelight2760 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't sound anything close to Randy Newman.
@nancy9891
@nancy9891 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemonnlimelight2760 He does on autotune. I like Randy Newman, he’s a talented pianist, vocalist, and great songwriter, but Eric Clapton doesn’t need auto tune even if it is popular.
@seansinger640
@seansinger640 2 ай бұрын
People don't use it because they "need" it. I agree it was horribly used, though.
@lavenderbee3611
@lavenderbee3611 2 жыл бұрын
I despise auto-tune, it's a deception that strips emotion from the performance. Eric's style has always been blues-based and is cathartic, passionate and emotional at it's best (it's supposed to be raw & dirty). I just bet a young person with no understanding of this type of music overdid auto-tune when it shouldn't have been used at all. Shame on Eric for not being more involved in the post production.
@Rick-the-Swift
@Rick-the-Swift 2 ай бұрын
Either Eric was directly involved in the decision to use auto-tune, or he gave it the ok after hearing the "corrections", or perhaps he's like our president and probably too old to change his own diapers, let alone be throwing concerts. I'll leave it up to you, but those are your only 3 choices. And who can blame him? Especially when he sees so many other old has-been rockers getting heckled in the KZbin comments for taking too many drugs, booze, and smoke in their younger days. These cats can't win, I tell ya😼
@colinyoung9943
@colinyoung9943 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you. The point is to hear as much of the artist as possible and it's often the slipping onto and off the notes that adds the spice.
@Heathcoatman
@Heathcoatman Ай бұрын
Saw Clapton in the 80s at a show in LA called The ARMS benefit. The artists were Clapton, Jeff Beck, and a band that would become The Firm (Jimmy Page, Paul Rogers). They were all great. Page wasnt his best, but it was still good. Clapton was Clapton, amazing music....subdued performance. The guy that absolutely brought the house down was the middle act, Jeff Beck. I love Beck, everything from Greensleeves to There and Back. I had seen him before and he was always great, but this particular performance was out of this world, and the crowd let him know. Then at the end all three artists came out and did Stairway to Heaven. One of the most memorable concerts in my life, and there were 100s to choose from.
@susanlynn770
@susanlynn770 2 жыл бұрын
Auto tune is an insult. To the singer and our ears 😁
@Markothunder
@Markothunder 2 жыл бұрын
True. why use autotune if Eric Clapton is a great singer? I understand if there's some good reasons why some artists in hip hop and pop music use autotune and of course, pop music and hip hop music back in my childhood years still make sense, it's just that if too much autotune, like heavily autotuned, then it's not good, like too much junk food:(
@toma5153
@toma5153 2 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes: "The fad that won't fade away!"
@michaelgreenberg106
@michaelgreenberg106 2 жыл бұрын
It may not be an insult to those who make millions, but still need this gimmick.
@lemonnlimelight2760
@lemonnlimelight2760 2 жыл бұрын
It's just fixing his out of tune singing. Maybe we can see this performance without auto-tune
@lemonnlimelight2760
@lemonnlimelight2760 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markothunder Great Singer..
@justinmaher318
@justinmaher318 2 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm keeps me coming back. When you listen to a performance you can't help smiling. It's infectious. Eric deserves better post production than "auto ruin"
@maremendez8540
@maremendez8540 2 ай бұрын
As a classically trained musician I’m blown away by your knowledge and technique
@johnnymoondog
@johnnymoondog 3 ай бұрын
"Buzzin Beenote" was one of my favourite blues guitarists ! Great analysis, Fil !
@marnaehrech1223
@marnaehrech1223 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis, FIL!! Love Eric. Saw him live in the early 80s at SPAC (Saratoga Performing Arts Center) in upstate NY. He was fabulous!!! Unfortunately, it started raining, so my husband, the carpenter, ran to our truck, got a 100-foot roll of plastic sheeting, and it was unrolled over the entire crowd on the grassy hill surrounding the covered stage. Soon the area beneath the plastic was filled w pot smoke as the rain poured down on the plastic above us... And I can still hear the sounds of Layla overriding the noise of the rain as we fell under Eric's spell. They don't make nights like that anymore!!! Much love from Vermont, Fil!
@rexwave4624
@rexwave4624 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great story!
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 2 жыл бұрын
Did he play “let it rain” too?
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Layla I'd like to hear. Thanks for evoking it for us.
@GnarlsGnarlington
@GnarlsGnarlington 2 жыл бұрын
You and Rick Beato really opened my eyes to how Autotune and Protools have RUINED music.
@CasperLD
@CasperLD 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that protools is the far worse culprit.
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Protools just records. It doesn't ruin music. The engineers do. Protools is just a recorder.
@jamesmathai1138
@jamesmathai1138 2 жыл бұрын
Some music, but as a whole music is certainly not ruined in my opinion.
@zendakk
@zendakk 2 жыл бұрын
A digital audio workstation is for tracking, editing, processing and mixing multiple tracks. It doesn't do anything the engineer/producer doesn't want it to do, it doesn't force anyone to make any specific artistic or technical decisions. I don't get this silly pseudo-wisdom people keep parrotting. Back in the day you did the same things except waste a shitload of expensive tape, run a plethora of hardware processing/fx units through a console and being significantly slower and less environment-friendly in the process. Nobody forces anyone to use autotune.
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasperLD I understand what you mean by this. It's a bittersweet relationship. On one hand DAWs have revolutionized the recording process making it easier and less expensive for most anyone to record. On the other hand DAWs led to VSTs and the like which auto tune is one of. It created a sort of perfectionists mindset with the listeners and the engineers also (though engineers arguably have always been that way) so if you're the type that likes raw "imperfect" music the days of pure analog or even ADAT was the golden era. However, you can actually achieve a raw "imperfect" recording digitally today if you want it and much easier. You just don't over engineer it and record it as live as possible.
@swarkamal
@swarkamal 3 ай бұрын
THIS IS SUCH A MEANINGFUL VIDEO AND DISCUSSION (just check out the fantastic comments). As someone who is a musician and is living in the tech glamor capital of the Silicon Valley. I think this subject is one of THE most important discussions we can have today. What is it to be human? The hubris and lack of any humility in the field of tech and in this case recording of artisic expression, is astonishing. As you said here. WHO ARE THEY TO THINK THEY CAN OR SHOULD ALTER A PERFORMANCE? Their pocketbooks are full and their sense of power in society is taken for granted now for no real reason but to create momentary baubles for the consumer. Is our purpose in being human to sit back and simply purchase "perfect" THINGS or to participate in the profound gift of the creative process? Learn from it. Grow from it. Feel it. And most importantly to 23:26 cultivate discernment.
@13MWM13
@13MWM13 2 ай бұрын
Preach!👍🏼
@elisabethaxelsson4736
@elisabethaxelsson4736 Жыл бұрын
Eric Clapton is one of my favorits love when he plays and sings blues
@LanternOneStudios
@LanternOneStudios 2 жыл бұрын
"Why do it", is spot on, Phil! I'm surprised that Clapton himself would be okay with using autotune in the first place. It seems so counterintuitive to what his music has evoked over the years including emotion, improvisation, and authenticity.
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 2 жыл бұрын
Eric likely had no knowledge of or involvement in the post-production done by someone for You Tube.
@markmiller6402
@markmiller6402 2 ай бұрын
I can’t believe he’d knowingly allow that
@seansinger640
@seansinger640 2 ай бұрын
​@@markmiller6402I can't believe you can't believe that.
@markmiller6402
@markmiller6402 2 ай бұрын
@@seansinger640 believe it😂😂
@ProverbsOne7
@ProverbsOne7 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's part of the contract. Most music companies own the musicians.
@loriholloway5866
@loriholloway5866 Жыл бұрын
Eric should have it in every contract to NOT auto tune him. I'd rather here an authentic CRACK in his voice than to altar it!! He's a professional!! He knows exactly how to recover from not nailing a note IF it ever happens!!!
@Psykel
@Psykel Жыл бұрын
I doubt anyone forced him. Was most likely requested by him. He’s getting old, and a lot of singers who now are in their 70’s use autotune.
@godetonter4764
@godetonter4764 Жыл бұрын
​@@Psykel Robert Plant is about 82? , and he still doesn't rely on autotune
@Psykel
@Psykel Жыл бұрын
@@godetonter4764 Robert Plant is 74, thus younger than Clapton. There’s also been some debate on him using autotune with Allison Krause. Even if he’s not using autotune, that’s one single example. Lots of old rock guys use it because they simply can’t hit the notes anymore.
@entspec
@entspec Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you get to be the musician that Clapton is by worrying about anything other than your personal performance. I know plenty of performers (heck I'm on of em') who considers themselves a GUITARIST who also sings. If I flub a line in the lyrics I laugh it off, but if I tank a solo I am really very angry with myself. Assuming he heard this, maybe it's just not that important to him. I mean he can hear Eric Clapton play guitar and sing whenever he wants!
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 Жыл бұрын
@@PsykelOf course he knows.
@jeannietrickett1465
@jeannietrickett1465 Жыл бұрын
I have been learning so many things since I started watching your video's !
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 9 ай бұрын
Eric is setting a mood in the beginning. Then he gets jazzy and does a different take on his song. He's done it the regular way for so long he wants to try something new. I like it for what it is.
@dawnross5920
@dawnross5920 2 жыл бұрын
“My parents had the Unplugged album.” You just broke me.
@nomopms1
@nomopms1 2 жыл бұрын
I hate auto-tune. I like the real thing, and Eric is perfect just the way he is. Who the heck thought they could or should improve his voice for public consumption??? Clapton fans will love him even if suddenly croaked like a frog. My favorite EC song is 'River Of Tears'. Every time I hear it, you have to mop me up off the floor. As always, you're adorable! LOVE THE HAIR!!
@Ubu987
@Ubu987 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of croaking like a frog, I wonder what autotune would make of Bob Dylan. Can you autotune frying eggs?
@nomopms1
@nomopms1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ubu987 HAHAHA!!!!!
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ubu987 I like your perceptive description of Dylan's voice sounding like frying eggs.
@coinraker6497
@coinraker6497 2 жыл бұрын
Hard for me to pick a favorite Clapton song but as far as the vocals go, every time he sings, "I don't wanna fade away", from the song "Bell Bottom Blues" I tear up.
@nomopms1
@nomopms1 2 жыл бұрын
@@coinraker6497 When I was in HS, Bell Bottom Blues was my favorite from EC.
@peggypeter8070
@peggypeter8070 Жыл бұрын
I do appreciate that as an artist he has every right to reinterpret his music, but I do love the early Layla much better! I was young back then too, so it speaks to my heart more. I don’t play instruments so I can’t follow some of what you are sharing musically but my old self is totally in love with the electric guitar!!❤️
@maryd6745
@maryd6745 4 ай бұрын
I really love how knowledgeable you are about all facets of these performances, and how you truly seem to enjoy what you're doing - your smile says it all. I also appreciate your talking about the autotuning and how you express your ideas about it sometimes taking away from the wonderful human nature of the music. I am only a listener and was aware of autotune but just felt like it was another tool that is used sometimes, which it is - but there is a bit of a controversy beyond the obvious one, which I never guessed. Thanks for your love and advocation for good music - it can only lead to good, IMO.
@ElizaBeth-fh6wy
@ElizaBeth-fh6wy 2 жыл бұрын
Each of Eric's performances of Layla is like telling and retelling and retelling a compelling story again and again, each time different according to his mood and memory 😍 He's directing his art, we don't question.
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackFalltrades real life for him....
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackFalltrades I'd question the validity of such a brief love but I'm not a singer.
@godetonter4764
@godetonter4764 Жыл бұрын
​@@voulafisentzidis8830 It only takes a few seconds to change the entire planet. A few years with a woman impacting the rest of his life is not that strange. Someone can break their back as a child in less than a second, but live with it for 70 + years
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 Жыл бұрын
@@godetonter4764 I agree with your sentiment. But I'd still question one's ability to love without fidelity.
@jcruisioso5975
@jcruisioso5975 Жыл бұрын
@@voulafisentzidis8830wow, how could you possibly know? You couldn’t.
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 2 жыл бұрын
I was 15 when the original came out, I could listen to it for hours and never get bored. Seen him twice and if you listen to his days in Cream on vinyl his true voice shines through.
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
I just miss that PUNCH that Cream had so much 🙏🙏 Music not always used to be something to be listened "in the background"... I fucking hate that... I'm not old enough to need Morphine just yet 🤣🤣🤣
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 2 жыл бұрын
@@FeelingShred it was my elder brother that first had a Cream LP, I listened to it and after a few plays all the small nuances just built up to a great sound. I know I sound like my father back in the day, but there does seem to be a lack of musicians that better those from earlier days. Having said that I enjoy listening to Linkin Park ( Chester, sadly missed ), Stains and Foo fighters to name a few.
@wayneelliott7011
@wayneelliott7011 10 ай бұрын
That's because Eric had an absolute Genius musician in the Band to carry him in Jack Bruce, virtuoso Bass player, superb Vocalist and good Songwriter, Ginger was also a pretty handy Drummer.
@Vanidar50
@Vanidar50 3 ай бұрын
@@wayneelliott7011 Correct! Jack Bruce is the man by Cream by far.Ginger not bad....Clapton has no skill to play guitar on high music level and he is the most overrated man in rockmusic history. Feeling? Oh yes...but you must have just a little bit skill...Slow hand? I must laughing...Its strange how some people have a carisma and iMO there is no reason for that...
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere Жыл бұрын
A little Rick Beato before popping over to see where Fil has added much appreciated value to music. Always a trip... Thank you.
@nickcook3948
@nickcook3948 3 ай бұрын
Oof, that keyboard solo - NO BLOODY PITCH BEND ON A RHODES THANK YOU. Strewth.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 2 жыл бұрын
Great video again Fil. Love the breakdowns for us!😊🥂⭐🎶🎸
@michele_e
@michele_e 2 жыл бұрын
Over the years, James Taylor has also changed how he performs many of his songs. "You've got a Friend" and "Shower the People" are the first two that come to mind. Yes, such talent that can perform a song solo with his guitar, with a band backing him, as a duet, and with backup singers. And they all sound quite different, but all great. I am not as familiar with Clapton's work, but this is such a soft song, un-reminiscent of the 1970's-80's Clapton that I knew, but still a great song. To paraphrase Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Saturday Night Special", we should "dump 'auto-tune equipment' to the bottom of the sea." Let us appreciate who Clapton is now - so what if he misses a few notes at the age of 70! Would much rather the real thing than some sanitized version. Thanks for your video.
@leighstevensmusic
@leighstevensmusic 3 ай бұрын
thank you for saying this, i've always thought so. love your channel, carry on!
@artwatts3670
@artwatts3670 Жыл бұрын
Phil, you always seem to be truly enjoying watching these artists perform. You're always positive in your comments. I for one would like for you to analyze a song you hate. There has to be at least one. Myself, I appreciate any expression through music. Its an artistic impression of self, so as such cant be judged by others. That being said, i never got into rap or hip hop. But I've listened to it on occasion. Many might not care for Bands like Captain Beefheart, Coven, The Shaggs. All examples of obscure off the wall music. Oddly enough, I was a fan of them.
@tooter5250
@tooter5250 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Beyond the horrors of autotuning, I appreciate your consistent underscoring of the subtle ways of playing notes (voclas and instrument), and imparting feeling and personal style that makes for a unique and special sound.
@davidcunningham7330
@davidcunningham7330 Жыл бұрын
You are SO GOOD! You mentioned the sitar and I thought NO ONE is going to notice that because it's so obscure! Since the song is an Arabic story that also has a somewhat mirror image with Patty I heard what I thought was EC making a guitar sound like a sitar to put a backstop to the Arabic story. And you - YOU! - made mention of the sitar! I am so impressed! On a side note - I think the original backing guitarist on the MTV acoustic original (Andy Fairweather Lowe) is one of the GREATEST guitarist of all time!!
@mikec6733
@mikec6733 9 ай бұрын
That intro is known as an "Alap" in Indian music. Select notes played with no rhythmic structure, over a drone.
@clintonkeith5333
@clintonkeith5333 7 күн бұрын
“delegating your creativity” - brilliant point!
@h.calvert3165
@h.calvert3165 Жыл бұрын
The more familiarity I develop with KZbin, the more I become convinced that this is the finest educational channel on it. Period. For accuracy, comprehensiveness, impartiality, positivity. The. Best. Thanks, Fil! 🏆
@godetonter4764
@godetonter4764 Жыл бұрын
And he can sing Child in Time identical to Ian Gillan just for demonstration purposes
@h.calvert3165
@h.calvert3165 Жыл бұрын
@@godetonter4764 He's a charming, genial, intelligent young man. I'm never surprised at anything he accomplishes. 👏
@CthulhuInc
@CthulhuInc Жыл бұрын
this version fails for the simple reason, as i'm sure someone else must have pointed out, that it completely lacks the pain, the anguish, the trainwreck of emotions involved in the loss of a meaningful relationship. this version shows the pain of losing a penny from a hole in your pocket.
@muskndusk
@muskndusk Жыл бұрын
The rhythm seems to be too "cheerful" for the pain to be expressed. Sounds more like "The Teddy Bears' Picnic" than a song about the pain of the end of a relationship.
@Queen-of-Swords
@Queen-of-Swords Жыл бұрын
Great way of putting it. I'm calling it the "dad" version. Its a real pipe and slippers nothing.
@delph2000
@delph2000 Жыл бұрын
@@Queen-of-Swords That isn't fair on dads!! 😄
@coinneachmaclellan3121
@coinneachmaclellan3121 Жыл бұрын
I think that this criticism fails to accept that this is the original artist's mature version of his original song, one in which the beauty and power of the music remain while the pain and poignancy are no longer as relevant as they were decades ago. In the same way Cream's version of "Crossroads" at the 2005 Reunion Concert doesn't replicate the intensity and overdrive of the "Wheels of Fire" recording yet it retains the sheer essence and enjoyment of the music. It really is a form of ageism to judge the later versions through the lens of the originals. I saw Cream in the '60s and enjoy the original recordings as much as I ever did but I also appreciate the evolution of an artist's experience of their own music.
@suzanneemerson9787
@suzanneemerson9787 Жыл бұрын
@@coinneachmaclellan3121 Interesting way to look at it.
@eddiepelosi6136
@eddiepelosi6136 8 ай бұрын
Hate auto tune, just not necessery... I do not expect humans to be perfect... Eric does not need auto tune...
@freddieqmercury5961
@freddieqmercury5961 2 ай бұрын
I know very little about music, but I do enjoy watching someone explain the technical aspects of music, thanks Fil for making these videos.
@glennstep1
@glennstep1 Жыл бұрын
A very spot on, welcomed, and appropriate rant! Thank you. Autotune is like fingernails on a chalkboard. It is like telling a chef to microwave a frozen dinner for a formal banquet. I seriously doubt this was sanctioned by EC. It is amazing how often artists do not have control - even when producing studio recordings. I'm sure Fil can relate to this. Thanks for your channel, Fil.
@richardmindemann6935
@richardmindemann6935 Жыл бұрын
AutoTune and AutoCorrect for computers are way past being annoying.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 5 ай бұрын
@@richardmindemann6935, Autocorrect has made more work for me, when typing something. I hate it as much as my ears hate hearing auto tune.
@jpalberthoward9
@jpalberthoward9 3 ай бұрын
​@@richardmindemann6935Every time they invent some new digital gimmick that does the work for us, another skill goes out the window.
@EvelynBaron
@EvelynBaron 3 ай бұрын
@@SuziQ. oh god me too.
@tnmoppylaura5476
@tnmoppylaura5476 2 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that a great song can have a lot of different lives. Too bad that Eric’s voice hasn’t been allowed have a different life also.
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 2 жыл бұрын
Until mentioned, I was thinking how well Eric's Quality was. Fil's right; if they would have just let it alone.
@ClassicTVMan1981X
@ClassicTVMan1981X 2 жыл бұрын
Eric admitted he never liked his singing voice, claiming he sounded like a 16-year-old boy from Surbiton. His exact words: "I hate my singing. I don't like the way I sing. It all sounds like I'm 16 years old from Surbiton. I do my best to try and feel it. You know, when I watch Ray Charles sing, I think 'That's it, that's how it's done.'"
@frankiebutler2894
@frankiebutler2894 2 жыл бұрын
True, it’s a good thing EC could play well, as his voice has always been weak & sounds to me as if he’s always straining to sing. EC didn’t sing until Delaney Bramlett of Delaney, Bonnie & Friends encouraged him to sing.
@williamr3840
@williamr3840 2 жыл бұрын
Too many Ferrari's. :0/
@williamr3840
@williamr3840 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicTVMan1981X But after he broke his nose... :0!
@vertigo0105
@vertigo0105 Жыл бұрын
These days, auto-tune is often used as an effect for a certain sound on the vocals as opposed to making the vocals perfect pitch. I don't have an issue with auto-tune when used as an effect for a different vocal sound, just like I have no issues with using chorus, harmonizers, delays, reverbs, and other effects on vocals, or any other instrument...
@heartpath1
@heartpath1 9 ай бұрын
I did a show last night in Nashville and there were a couple songs we play totally off the grid, no Pro Tools & click track. What a glorious feeling to play music unencumbered by the evil forces of the digital age. As always, love what you do!
@supasoulproductions
@supasoulproductions 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite version of Layla is the jazz version that he did with Wynton Marsalis. It's really incredible.
@robynevans1287
@robynevans1287 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard that yet! I'll be checking it out!👍👍Thanks!😊
@robynevans1287
@robynevans1287 2 жыл бұрын
That is GOOOOD STUFF! Thank you again for mentioning it! 🤗💖 Here's a link in case anybody else wants to check it out- kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKexepysfcmsZrM
@michaelgreenberg106
@michaelgreenberg106 2 жыл бұрын
Saw it, and saw Eric intimidated by the great Winton.
@supasoulproductions
@supasoulproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgreenberg106 Many rock players (including Eric) admit to being a bit intimidated by jazz players like Wynton. That was certainly not my main takeaway from this performance, though.
@greglarry11
@greglarry11 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the version with Wynton's New Orlean jazz guys was amazing. Eric said the arrangement was not his idea. It's a great version. Much more bluesy and emotional. Thanks for bringing that incredible version up.
@ScottfromBaltimore
@ScottfromBaltimore 2 жыл бұрын
I really dislike this version. I can't discuss it rationally. I appreciate your insights and respectful analysis. I'll refrain from saying [edit: further] what I feel about this rendition.
@keetonplace
@keetonplace Жыл бұрын
Scott from Baltimore....Agree.. I love Layla. But this is my least favorite version.
@joshmo141x
@joshmo141x Жыл бұрын
Never loved this version either. The rock/electric version is just sublime and as they say don’t mess w perfection….
@realjumper
@realjumper Жыл бұрын
In the title it says: "Why do it?"......I agree......why do this version at all? It's disgraceful imo and I turn off the radio if I hear it. Yes, I'm a Clapton fan, but this re-make of an epic song has as much impact as a wet bus ticket!
@ozymandiaspbs
@ozymandiaspbs 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I was expecting the version I listened to in the early 1980s. What the heck is this?
@headbandbybrianlundeen3132
@headbandbybrianlundeen3132 9 ай бұрын
I had the same initial reaction but now i enjoy the acoustic version.
@retroactive1autrey668
@retroactive1autrey668 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Fil, I'm so glad to speak with you once again. I'm wondering whether or not you have dissected the studio version done with Derek and the Dominos? I certainly would love to see that reaction.
@lynndow3185
@lynndow3185 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to tip my hat to Michelle John and Sharon White, the backup singers here! Even with auto-tune, they sounded lovely to me. Thanks for this one, it was awesome to see you playing again!
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrPnew1
@MrPnew1 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, regarding Fil getting back in the geetar drivers seat. Have missed that immensely
@susanlynn770
@susanlynn770 2 жыл бұрын
The original is my favorite. Was my favorite song 1973 I think I was 14. I’d listen to radio for hours waiting for them to play it and fall asleep but it when it came on It would wake me. I wore out the LP, eight track and cassette. Now I’ve worn out the CD. 😜. Sure love being able to hear it anytime online. Love Eric Clapton. Lucky I saw him in Dallas TX in the eighties with “the British are coming” concert. Once in a lifetime gathering of musicians.
@NewYorkJennifer
@NewYorkJennifer 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Always ticked me off if the radio stations would cut off the last note!
@phil36135
@phil36135 2 жыл бұрын
I was 14 when I first heard it and its been one of my favorites ever since. I know a lot of people love the newer version and I appreciate it, but at the same time I just dont like it at all. To me its just dont even come close to the original song. Thats my honest opinion.
@michaelmacdonald558
@michaelmacdonald558 2 жыл бұрын
I was 17. And i did the exact same thing. Lay awake for hours waiting for Layla to come on in bed. The DJ would say in the next hour we have so and so ...and Lyla. Id wait the whhole time for Layla. I bought a double album for that song!! Amazing to hear someone did the same thing. My all time favorite song. I hate the butchering and bastardizing acoustic version
@tsfarken
@tsfarken 2 жыл бұрын
@@phil36135 Both the MTV Unplugged version and this one lack the raw passion of the original.
@OLLiGoldeaux
@OLLiGoldeaux Жыл бұрын
Wow. I did not hear it (....until now) Greets from germany.... great stuff you do !
@sjntube
@sjntube Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your work Fil. Autotune has its place. When Cher used it, it worked. It was artistic license. But when it's used to deceive, there's a problem. Thank you, thank you, thank you..... for calling it out. I think it's disgraceful that it's used against artists such as Art Garfunkel and Eric. Keep doing what you do. Your reviews are spot on.
@rocketpigrecords3719
@rocketpigrecords3719 3 ай бұрын
Cher was using it as a sort of vocoder effect, too. Not as many do, to cover the fact that they couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.
@fishingmule3266
@fishingmule3266 3 ай бұрын
It worked for Cher because that type of pop music isn’t about being taken seriously, so it doesn’t really need subtlety and humanity. Genres like rock and the blues require a lot more of the human element to be appealing. It enhances the pop music while poisoning the unpredictable artistic stuff.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 2 жыл бұрын
Applying auto-tune is like creating imperfection through (tuned) perfection.
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 2 жыл бұрын
I never really liked the "unplugged" soft-rock version of "Layla." I guess it's because there's such a verve and breathlessness to the original and Duane Allman's lead guitar going into and under the verse vocal was such a brilliant idea and carries so much class. Most all rock fans know the story behind the song so I won't spell it out, but the immediacy of the romantic situation at the time the song was recorded makes me feel like Clapton doing it in its original feel in subsequent live performances even pales in comparison. By comparison, this version just seems smarmy and forced.
@mamacujo
@mamacujo 2 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. I think if this had been the version Pattie first heard she would have stayed with George (I jest, of course) The urgency of the original Layla is just not there. The unplugged version is played like there is no history to this song. Sorry Eric...
@NoviJimB
@NoviJimB 2 жыл бұрын
We all have our own tastes - some think it's soulful, I think the complete opposite - for me it lacks soul. It just kind of drags. Listen to the singing in the slow version, then the original. NO comparison whatsoever. He's singing his heart and soul out in the original, in the other one he's barely singing. Same kind of thing musically. It's an OK thing to play around the campfire, that's about it.
@jameslifetimelearner
@jameslifetimelearner 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and have always felt the same.Unplugging and milking the tune for another lifetime.But,that’s what tunes are for.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 2 жыл бұрын
I just shrug and consider them two very different songs even if they have the same name and words. I don't love the later version, but I don't really hate it either, and if you're allowed to cover someone else's tune and "improve" it, I suppose you're equally welcome to "cover" your own tune in an entirely new way! Now if you want smarmy and forced... that's what Tears In Heaven became quite quickly, even if it was in earnest to start with.
@michaelsmyth3935
@michaelsmyth3935 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoviJimB gee golly, when he sang it all those years ago, the pain of the relationship was pretty fresh, perhaps years later the angst ain't so strong. Could explain the difference in intensity.
@MS-ww6cd
@MS-ww6cd Жыл бұрын
Agree 1,000,000%! What a bummer that someone thought this was the call. Saw him live on the Journeyman tour, one of the best concerts I’ve seen!
@jeffroq
@jeffroq 2 ай бұрын
That little fret buzz is great in this mix. Interestingly it's all over Brian May's early Queen acoustic tracks. Especially on Queen II. Thanks for this video.
@tammydoolittle6054
@tammydoolittle6054 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know about auto tune and pitch correction, I wish it didnt exist. I prefer to listen to the natural voice of the singers, mistakes and all. That's what makes them unique. To me, if you perfect a voice, you're taking away the singers emotions that he/she is trying to portray in their song. Eric Clapton's voice didnt need any help from auto tune, hes "perfect" in his own way. It was another awesome analysis! 🙂
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kentmains7763
@kentmains7763 2 жыл бұрын
OK, I was waiting for the artistic disgrace and then the autotune kicked in.
@joshuajouet
@joshuajouet Жыл бұрын
The irony of the keys solo being the most human part of what i'm hearing
@tomcartwright7134
@tomcartwright7134 Жыл бұрын
I will just bring my water colors to the museum and just do some touch up on that imperfect Mona Lisa. Pretty sure I can make it better.
@davkrod
@davkrod 2 ай бұрын
Like the woman in Spain a few years ago and her 'restoration' of the painting of Jesus.
@ZainaDancer
@ZainaDancer 2 жыл бұрын
This is sad... there should be an 11th commandment: 🎸Thou shalt not auto-tune Eric Clapton! 🎸 Auto-tune is a soul-sucking vampire. Side note: As a professional dancer who has judged dance performances, I have always given more points to a dancer who has made missteps but has incredible passion and expression over a dancer who is technically perfect but can't make me feel his/her performance. I feel the same about vocal performances; I'd much rather hear someone hit wrong notes, screw up the lyrics, anything, because I know they are feeling the performance and giving us all their love and passion! That being said, I have never been a fan of the unplugged version of Layla. The original version gives me the feels 100% and, for me, has so much more passion (with Eric's growls and gravel!)...it will always be my favourite version💜. Thanks for another great analysis Fil!
@popatyourecords
@popatyourecords 2 жыл бұрын
I dont like what has happened to music ,i record in real time i dint cut or paste or voice tune,, i record the instruments from begining to end ,,music has been made squeaky clean sanitised boring and sterile ,listen to the charts all music is done on a computer every thing made perfect through tech
@deanmartin9199
@deanmartin9199 2 жыл бұрын
'Perfect' is not music. It should have real feel and flexibility. Many great songs have players who play behind the beat, or ahead of it, and adjust the tempo as the song requires. No button pushing idiot, who has probably never played a note, should be interfering with the performers art. And, if the singer can't sing without it, make room for someone who can!
@coololdluke3905
@coololdluke3905 2 жыл бұрын
The buzzing here is a result of super light gauge strings and super close action. A trademark of his and the opposite of SRV and his sound from super heavy strings and a bit higher string action. Love em both!
@CavyWheek
@CavyWheek 9 ай бұрын
Great breakdown. I never noticed the auto tune before. Definitely a "Thanks, I hate it" situation.
@LP-hs6yz
@LP-hs6yz 8 ай бұрын
I watch for Fil's smile.
@andypayne2743
@andypayne2743 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your vids. It’s good to see a guitar channel and in particular a rock related one not just doing shred stuff. I think over time you learn to appreciate the stuff that might not appear challenging to play is actually really difficult or that it adds something to the song even if it’s not hard, very often it’s the subtle stuff that makes it all interesting. I love how you genuinely seem to enjoy all forms of music, shows your musical maturity.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Tom-xg1kj
@Tom-xg1kj 3 ай бұрын
Making the seeming simple special is what an artist does.
@hakonsoreide
@hakonsoreide 2 жыл бұрын
You make such a good point about the irony of autotune in this one.
@everkwilt
@everkwilt Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of auto tune before watching your videos. Thank you for your informative and completely engaging videos! My rock 'n roll fandom goes back to the 60's, including of course Eric Clapton. I was wondering, Fil, if you have done or could do an anslysis of Grace Slick singing White Rabbit? I heard it the other day, and recalled what a powerhouse her voice was.
@jilcooper9619
@jilcooper9619 6 ай бұрын
Yes, yes!! I’m a peer
@davestevens4193
@davestevens4193 10 ай бұрын
He's been cruising for the last 35 years. Sober doesn't make you better, it just makes you sober.
@cisium1184
@cisium1184 3 ай бұрын
Ever played drunk or stoned? It makes your performance worse. By definition, then, being sober does make you better, at least where musical sensitivities are concerned.
@seansinger640
@seansinger640 2 ай бұрын
100% truth. Also, he was and is an impressive technician on guitar, but his career is still a product of luck and "right place right time" as much as anyone I've ever seen.
@seansinger640
@seansinger640 2 ай бұрын
​@@cisium1184I've played both conditions many, many times. Yes, it's easy and common to see people overdo it and sound horrible. Probably happens more often than not. But for me, up to a point, it either at least didn't hurt, or actually helped by way of lowering my inhibitions and easing the gap between thinking about playing and just playing. I say that as a guy who's been sober for years by choice, and after having listened to recorded performances of myself both sober and inebriated over multiple decades. That's just me, though. It's not something to be proud nor ashamed of, just a fact about the way I am. I know some people can't handle their substances for personal or genetic reasons, or aren't able to figure out where their personal limits are for whatever reason and end up overdoing it every time. People react differently and not everything is black and white. But that's entirely the point: everyone is different when it comes to most things, but it's even more important of a distinction when it comes to the way our bodies and minds function. Mitch Hedberg wouldn't have had a damn career if it weren't for heroin. It was what took him out, yes, but it's also part of the reason he was able to share his style of comedy at all and why we know his name; that substance at that point in his life and the state of the mental health system at the time made heroin one of the defining reasons he had an amazing and influential career, instead of letting crippling anxiety and stage fright keep him from continuing to perform. It's not great, it shouldn't be encouraged, but it's got to be acknowledged that there are positive effects of basically any major drug if we're going to have an honest discussion about (and any realistic possibility of fixing) the whole issue. Once again: grey areas. They're everywhere.
@sheldoniusRex
@sheldoniusRex 2 жыл бұрын
I always associated the unplugged version with what happens to a man as he gets older remembering unrequited love or an illicit affair. As you age and your energies and passions cool you are likely to sing the same song differently.
@danielshade710
@danielshade710 Жыл бұрын
Artists who promote flaccid versions of their pieces are…well….already dead.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
I always thought of it as the Prozac version, and the original is cocaine… 😄
@dcole2133
@dcole2133 8 ай бұрын
@@5roundsrapid263he sang that too 🤣
@mikekaylor1226
@mikekaylor1226 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I would love to see you do Outside Woman Blues, from the Cream Reunion. Eric's playing on that is so freakin good.
@FBAV
@FBAV Жыл бұрын
I have a cheap Gomez semi-acoustic Spanish guitar that I could buy very cheap cause the guy from the store said there was a manufacturing issue with it... But this manufacturer issue turned out to be the first 4-5 frets buzzing (cause especially the lower strings touched the next fret when played a bit louder)....... And I absolutely love that about that guitar! 😉
@truthtorpedo99
@truthtorpedo99 8 ай бұрын
What tool are you using to graph out the notes? Do you have a vid on what it is and how to use it?
@glamgal7106
@glamgal7106 2 жыл бұрын
As always, your analyses engage me in all the ways that you present them. This one of Eric Clapton is no exception, albeit with the rant alert. *sirens wailing* All jokes aside, I continue to appreciate your thorough “fine tooth comb” approach to your analysis, especially with regards to the use of auto tune to Eric’s performance. Yes I totally agree with you that the addition of auto tune is taking away the soul from the performance. I think your words “snapped” and “squashed” to describe auto tune’s role in the performance hit the nail on the head. Of course I’m not taking anything away from Eric’s overall abilities because we all know what a professional he is. Last night, I was thinking of sharing this quote from the Swedish singer Yukimi Nagano: “One of my strict, strict rules is a no auto tune policy.” I don’t believe that you were ranting. In your analysis, you provided sufficient and informative examples of how auto tune can prove to be detrimental when applied to the artist’s performance. That’s not ranting, that’s proving a point. Thanks very much for an exceptional analysis, Fil!
@jonathansturm4163
@jonathansturm4163 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God autotune only came later rather than earlier. And there’s no autotune for my memory of seeing Clapton perform during his 461 Ocean Boulevard tour when I learnt why he was called Slow Hand. One of the highlights of my life. I also saw BB King the same summer.
@joannmay-anthony1076
@joannmay-anthony1076 8 күн бұрын
this slow version is one of my most favorite songs ever. I remember when he played it on Unplugged and all the all the other songs on that show.
@Krazede
@Krazede 3 ай бұрын
Quality Stuff Fil! THX!
@tracyzimmerman7912
@tracyzimmerman7912 2 жыл бұрын
It's the subtleties in any instrument that makes it unique. Auto Tune strips the feel right out of everything. It's quite a gift to know how to be so versatile in performing a song. This gives you new flavors to enjoy. I actually like his version of Layla because it's more soulful. The original doesn't do it for me.
@christopherdobney2927
@christopherdobney2927 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but they're all "his versions." He wrote it.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 2 жыл бұрын
As Fil stated, this is the original as the hit song was a later version!
@lbl9066
@lbl9066 2 жыл бұрын
I love the original and the slow one, both great..especially the one in goodfellows
@purplerose6965
@purplerose6965 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer too ,it’s beautifully soulful and the backing singers are wonderful.
@jackielh1
@jackielh1 2 жыл бұрын
I've beena fan of Clapton since the Cream days. I'm getting much better recognizing auto tune, it's a shame somebody thinks they know better, in reality they need to leave these amazing performances alone. Thanks Fil I've learned so much from you
@fiddlerJohn
@fiddlerJohn 3 ай бұрын
Great info. Love you videos. Thanks
@urbangrouse
@urbangrouse 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I heard auto-tune in a song, and I thought "that's a cool effect". Then I started hearing it in almost every pop song I heard. I bloody well hate it! I don't care how good the song is, if you use auto-tune it drops ten points automatically - and that's out of ten! Just sing. Let's hear your voice!
@steveleblanc7983
@steveleblanc7983 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to see Eric play the original version of "Layla" live back in the 70s but it wasn't auto-tune that bugged me. It was his taking all the passion and angst out of the song that Eric did with this version. I thought he should be doing it sitting in a rocking chair.
@ianlaker9161
@ianlaker9161 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It wasn't written as a ballad, although I suppose the author has every right to rework it. The original is full of desperation, hurt and passion, as is most of that masterpiece of an album. made more so by Bobby Whitlock's superb backing vocals.
@VonOzbourne
@VonOzbourne 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that got me about this arrangement is that as a kid, my favourite part of the song was the big guitar/piano outro. Watching the unplugged show for the first time I thought it was an interesting take, wonder how they are going to do the end? Was as much then as it is now a disappointment that rather than adapt the solos, the choice was made to simply omit the ending.
@brianh9358
@brianh9358 Жыл бұрын
I personally think because this was a solo performance singing it as a ballad is fine. It doesn't substitute for the original, but allows him to perform the song in a different more pensive style.
@alangray9117
@alangray9117 Жыл бұрын
@@ianlaker9161 I agree. That version might as well of been done by James Taylor.
@uberbeast113
@uberbeast113 Жыл бұрын
With his slippers on and a mug of cocoa. Back in the day I imagine him with his cool shades, ciggie in his lips, George Harrison's wife on her knees directly in front of him (back of her head obscuring her lavish oral attentions)
@ffggddss
@ffggddss Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if we could get access to the pre-autotuned audio... In any case, I personally can't let go of my love of the original, Derek & the Dominoes recording (which was also Eric, of course!). It perfectly encapsulates the scream of youth; the wrenching emotion, that *IS* rock music! At the same time, there's something important that this song has to say, even in its subdued version. When not ruined by the travesty of Autotune, that is. Fred
@Jamesdylandean
@Jamesdylandean Ай бұрын
I fingerpick on an electric acoustic guitar, also. If you watch closely, he buzzes when he is behind the fret, but doesn't when his finger is on the fret. And for me this only occurs on the low E string and A string on the second or third fret. I avoid this by capo-ing up two frets, or making sure my finger is firmly secure right on the affected frets. I posted this before you continued comments on this, so if you noticed this also or have a variant opinion, sorry.
@DiscoMood
@DiscoMood 2 жыл бұрын
Fil is amazing the way he breaks music down. I true talent.
Let's check out John Lennon's ISOLATED LIVE vocal AND lead guitar playing!
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