Love how they glow in the board light yellow/ orange
@danhigginbotham5945 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I have used the Condor AXE Neon standard since they came out. I’m going to see how the Fusion’s are!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
No problem, I think they are very similar so far :)
@bertvanderham3822 Жыл бұрын
Yep, another wonderful review. I've tested with the K-flex and I like them a lot. Now have to test these ones as well
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bert! Yeah I think for me the Fusion are very close to the Axe, probably flying a little better for me than the K-Flex but that could just be because I am more used to the bigger flight :)
@bertvanderham3822 Жыл бұрын
Aha. I'm used to throw with ten-x or kite
@Aussie-Joe Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison Darren, and very nice 180. 😁😁 I'll have to give these a closer look.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Always nice to get a max on video HIGH POWA! :)
@ZaneJethwa Жыл бұрын
They seem pretty decent... just need to see how good they in are in the long term. You always know how to make the colour green Darren!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
LOL I do! :)
@stevenismo1961 Жыл бұрын
I like moulded flights I’ve used L style for a few years, just got some k flights and they fly well to be fair and no damage after about 28 hours use. Nice comparison Daz.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have used them for a lot of years now. K-Flex are not bad but I think my darts are flying a bit better with the Axe and Fusions so far. Cheers! :)
@LazyBoyZR1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. Edit, High Power Indeed!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
No problem, cheers! :)
@skeller61 Жыл бұрын
I find it amazing how the flight systems for proper darts are going to the single molded ones used in the absolute cheapest darts available when I was growing up (a long time ago). There were definitely some weird ones back then. When I pulled my old kit out from mothballs, I found stems that had wires at the end where you inserted the flights. I settled into using the Cosmo fit flights/stems, simply because they’re so easy to change out. The ‘normal’ stems have the issue that it’s hard to get the flights in sometimes. Of these three, I think the Winmau set look the best. I might have to give them a try. Thanks a lot for the work you put in testing everything out. By the way, I’m from the US, but whenever I look at darts stuff, I’m always looking at UK channels and start using terms like ‘proper’. ‘kit’, and ‘brilliant’. When in Rome…
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
I have been using them for years now, for main reason like you said its a lot easier to change but with the ones before the Axe they would break often so the price was a little off putting overall. I used the Zero stress for a long while but the Axe lasted very well for me so love those, remains to be seen still if the K-Flex and Fusion last as long and soon we will have the new L-Style Fantom flights to test :) LOL lots of U.S. viewers and members on the forum at Darts Nutz, I use words like Awesome more these days too! :)
@vicfairbrass2814 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren interesting product 👍🏻 wow a 180 as well 🎯 keep up with the great reviews 🎯 Happy darting 🎯
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vic, always nice to catch one 😊👍💚
@JoetjiesPlace Жыл бұрын
A Must try... Thnx for the review. Just for info sake... playing the kflex for a while now... the flights got alot of chips in (Peaces broke off) Condor x much durable... So Im gonna get me a set of these to try,,, just love the solid systems... Like the more flex in the fusions...
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info I have had a bit of an issue with my kflex too 🙂
@Andy_Underwood... Жыл бұрын
Nicest design for this style of flight, stem integration imo.. gonna hold out for the smaller flight. Hopefully they'll make some.
@lucianokeyser6660 Жыл бұрын
awesome review, thanks
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Cheers 👍😊
@markpbowen10 ай бұрын
Getting back into darts after decades of not playing. I have a set of orange medium and used them for a few months now, they are holding up well. I am not a great player but have based them up a few times. One thing I have noticed is the top of the flight is starting to wear, time will tell if they will crack break or damage. I really like them and I want to try different sizes to see what suits me. Really enjoying the channel, thanks.
@DartsReviewChannel10 ай бұрын
Great to hear!👍😊
@jodywilliams4387 Жыл бұрын
Great review on all 3 i’m currently throwing a small standard condor axe but I may try the other two now just to see
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jody! let me know how you get on if you try them :)
@bolerkai Жыл бұрын
Great review, I have never tried Axe, but I would like to try them or these. I like these better than the K-Flex, based solely on your reviews.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You need to try them to be sure what suits you though :)
@davidyendoll5903 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing these . I think the Condors stem looks more aerodynamic myself , I am no wing designer or anything , but it seems to me that there would be less changes in air flow along the Condor's central column without the 'waisted' shape of the other two designs . There again maybe the waisted designs would allow more flexing when impacts occur and that flexibility would help reduce deflections of in coming darts . Who knows ? Only Darren can test them all ! Best of luck mate . On the whole , without having actually used any of the flights tested of course lol , I like the look of the Condors , but they are pricey mind , so I reckon I would go of the K flights ..... could be well of the mark. What bothers my miserly mind is that all these one piece flight system and their cost is that I would have to buy a bloody new carrying case in addition to the ruddy flights ! Mind you I need a new case anyway !
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
I think aero dynamics in regards to shape of stem probably has less of an affect than flight shape over such a short throwing distance but maybe it only takes a tiny affect to make a change that is better or worse for a person's throw which is why ultimately you need to try them to see if they work or not. In darts I don't think a most perfect aero dynamic barrel and setup guarantees it will work better for you 😊
@IchliebeHunde58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, matey. I am a huge fan of both the K flex and the Axe; I use a 28mm (intermediate). I will certainly give the Fusion a try just because, but I would be surprised if I liked them more than the K flex or Axe.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Its all about finding what works for you really, they may be better or worse but ultimately you will need to find that out. So far for me I think the Axe are still best but need to spend more time with the Fusion yet :)
@edwardkiperman8436 Жыл бұрын
Good review. But now I have to buy a bunch to try. I was hoping you would tell me if the fusions are better than the K-flex
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! So far for me I think they might be but I need to try a K-Flex in a no 2 standard when they come out to be sure :)
@DJJOOLZDE Жыл бұрын
Would like to try some of these moulded ones, but i'm also a sucker for looks and cool designs so... unless they add those i'll stick with the normal stuff :D
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
I think the neon and clear types look cool but I know what you mean :)
@PimpSlapz Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Recently bought a pair of kflex and so far i'm having alot of issues (Bouncers) I'll just stick with my condors, but i might give these a try!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I have had a few more deflections with the K-Flex but its why I tell people they need to find out what suits them best, others have said they have had less deflections with the K-Flex, so its all down to how we throw I guess :)
@dannysymons7219 Жыл бұрын
ill stay on the Cuesoul ak57 rost t19, like the flex on these. greetings
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
its all about what suits you best but I also find some brands stems/flights/all in ones work better with some darts than others, like my Cuesoul Tero+ they really suit my Predators but the Condor Axe worked great with my Target Extreme Sprint and Unicorn Balista :)
@npsmith7699 Жыл бұрын
good review, thanks +++
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@danielbarna1385 Жыл бұрын
I also threw with harrows predator for 3 years, I just switched to datadart smooth two months ago.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
👍😊
@sonnyhenriksen284 Жыл бұрын
I totally get, that the all-in-one systems are lighter, but to me that seems to be primarily the stem part. The flight part, seems heavier, thicker, and perhaps "draggier." 🤷♂️
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Yeah very likely but then some people probably prefer a more draggy set up :)
@leonsandmann2590 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Still im not used to all those flexible systems. I remember the time with standard flights and aluminium shafts.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Well its really all about finding what suits you best. I hated the Unicorn Slik Stiks which were very bendy but some people swore they were the best ever stems?
@leonsandmann2590 Жыл бұрын
Harrows Clic system suited me the best because they are closest to normal flight and shaft and have a 90 degrees aswell@@DartsReviewChannel
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@leonsandmann2590 I liked the Clic a lot but my problem with them was my darts kept getting stuck in the little window on the flight and they would rip at that spot.
@tommacdonald99146 ай бұрын
I just got a set of short fusion I am very happy with them. Keep up your great reviews
@DartsReviewChannel6 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom! :)
@tommacdonald99146 ай бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel playing cricket now
@anoldgamer9119 Жыл бұрын
You may want to have a look at the Cuesoul Rost T19s, these are my current favourite integrated set, and definitely compete well against the others in this video (but are pretty expensive by comparison)
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Already reviewed them 😊
@anoldgamer9119 Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel found the T19 review from 11 months ago, but now with the recent releases of the K-Flex and Winmau Fusion, plus the Condor Axe, might be worth a side by side comparison of all four, just to see how they fair against each other. Would also be a chance for some of the follow up videos that you keep promising ;)
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@anoldgamer9119 There is a new version out but the reason they are not included is the Rost are not using the same kind of material as the Axe, Kflex and Fusion :)
@LinecookThorJamiethaxton Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try them out awesome colors
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Have fun!👍
@glennl. Жыл бұрын
I will give these a try but i think the Condor Axe one's seems better.
@garybentall8724 Жыл бұрын
Great review Dazza. I have just started using the Condor Neon in yellow (love them because they actually appear green - go team green!) so will give these a go as well. PS: How is Rocky? Haven't seen him for a while :-) 🐕
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gaz! Green is good! :) Rocky is ok, just getting a bit older and slower but still kicking :)
@garybentall8724 Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel glad to hear he is ok Dazza. Crazy dog lover as well as a member of team green :-D
@Charlie-mi2du10 ай бұрын
Do they fit to all winmau barrels
@DartsReviewChannel10 ай бұрын
They fit any 2ba darts
@Charlie-mi2du10 ай бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannelok thanks
@Strohat8 Жыл бұрын
Yellow and blue make green 😄
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
It sure does 😁💚
@KiteBear Жыл бұрын
Another great review I have the Condor Zero Stress and Axe flights as well as the K-Flex and waiting on my order for the Fusion flights. So far i like the Axe system best they are durable and last a long time foe me I have a couple sets that I have been using for about 2 years now and another that is about 18 months old now and been using them on my match dats so getting well used, And still almost mint, I think they only have one chip out of one of the wings and a few scratches. But in great condition and still very usable condition after about 18 months of use. Can you tell me if the Fusions are a standard size or a Shape or small standard size? Compared to the K-Flex and Axe standard and small sizes? How doe the wing sizes compare? CHEERS!! & SHOOT E'm STRAIT!!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think the measurements are in the video, Winmaus standards are a little different as is most brands, but seems closer to others no 2 standards
@KiteBear Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel I got my Fusion flights yesterday and they seem to be working well My darts are flying great and all landing near flat in the board just the way I like them to. My first shot with them was very interesting the darts grouped together very well, and they all clattered of each other as they went into the board. the darts did not deflect they seemed to get sucked in together all in the T1 But the grouping was amazing. I continued to throw to get used to the new flights and did manage a 180 a little later I will be using the fusion flights on my match darts and see how durable they are Winmau claims that the Fusions are lasting there pros a good long time in testing. so far so good I am really liking the Fusion flights system. We will see if they last as long as the Condor AXE. Thanks again for your detailed review of the Fusion flights system from Winmau Your reviews are always very detailed and provide as much information about the products as possible Keep up the Great work. The only problem is that it gets expensive seeing all these great darts and products then wanting them and eventually buying them $$ DANG IT!! CHEERS!!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@KiteBear LOL yeah it is getting expensive these days, was not so bad a few years back. Thanks for the update, sounds like they are working well for you so far, hopefully they will last as well as the Axe :)
@KiteBear Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel I took my new fusion flights to my League tonight we had a singles tournament. I was using my 2 day old Fusion flights and I had a bounce out and the dart landed on the carpet mat and then bounced onto the Terrazzo floor and one of the wings on my flight snapped. Luckily I bought 3 sets and had a 2nd set of darts with Fusion flights on them so I switched to my 2nd set of match darts. and continued and came in 2d in the tournament tonight. So a happy darter but bummed about the durability of these Fusion flights so far. I have 2 of my other Fusion flights with tiny chips on the wings. But I rely like them other than this broken flight. I have a set of AXE flights that is still in great shape and they are 2 years old. I think the K-Flex are also suspect for durability 2 of my K-Flex flights have a couple tiny cracks or chips out of the side of the wings. Thanks again for all of your great reviews. CHEETS & SHOOT E'm STRAIT!!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@KiteBear Thats not so good, I know my Axe are still fine after I reviewed them over 2 years ago, longest lasting flights I have ever had. My K-Flex are still ok but I doubt they are going to last as long as the Axe, I am still early days with the Fusions yet, so will see :)
@chrissp1100 Жыл бұрын
180 🎉🎉🎉🎉 thx for the informations! I play at moment k-flex and it works for me... lets test fusion if my k-flex is killed 😊
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Cheers 👍💚
@morganharvey167 Жыл бұрын
Are they better than condor axe or k flex
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
as I said in video its early days, too early to say, if they last as long as the Axe then they are just as good and possibly better as they are cheaper. Also as mentioned in video the features of each is going to be different to the individual of whether its better or worse, for the short time I have tried them, I like them better than the K-Flex and they seem very similar to the Axe, so just remains to be seen if they last as long, my Axe are still good after 2 years though :)
@davidyendoll5903 Жыл бұрын
Two years using one set of Axe , Wow , that says a lot @@DartsReviewChannel
@seant968 ай бұрын
Will these fit in the Gary Andersen series 7 darts? How will I know which of these flights to order to fit?
@DartsReviewChannel8 ай бұрын
All 2ba flights fit all 2ba darts. In short yes :)
@seant968 ай бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel thanks mate
@Jack-ip7ev11 ай бұрын
I use a Harrow dart, if I replace the Stem and Flights with this will they fit?
@DartsReviewChannel11 ай бұрын
Yes 👍
@FrankTisellano Жыл бұрын
Bought these last week and, within the first thirty minutes, two wings shattered off of one of the flights after deflecting to the floor. They look great, but I think they may be too rigid. Hopefully just my set.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Heard a few mention same and also with the K-Flex too, mine are ok so far though :)
@magnusmayrhofer1076 Жыл бұрын
I think that the condor axe are best for rear grippers because the grooves aren't as deep.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Well most rear grippers will be holding the barrel and not the stem so not sure it would make a lot of difference to many
@magnusmayrhofer1076 Жыл бұрын
yes probably the most rear grippers don't touch the stem. I do. i hold my thumb btw. the transition form stem and barrel. so for me the shape and material of the shaft is very important. I think of pdc players who might touch or hold partially at the stem
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@magnusmayrhofer1076 Bristow, Bobby George and Steve Beaton are 3 I know of for sure that hold the stem :)
@so7omon333 Жыл бұрын
I will say I notice the k flex stems when I throw because of the grooves. I might have to try the other 2 brands to see which ones I like better.
@andrewwickstead3802 Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the k flex is that it is a number 6 size…. Which is the size of flight I use……… but mr condor must be having a clutcher!!! His legal team will be on overdrive!!!!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Lol he will 😊 I think the bigger flight suits me better so will have to wait for Target to make a no 2 version.
@stevenhudson7929 Жыл бұрын
high power!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Did you feel it 😁
@Richard-de2om Жыл бұрын
I have same question as everyone, are they better than what's already on the market
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
read reply below to morganharvey
@tommacdonald99146 ай бұрын
Hi Darren I been using the fusion for a week now my average has went up for 01 a cricket. Ordered 2 more set.
@DartsReviewChannel6 ай бұрын
That's great 👍
@papacrl Жыл бұрын
I am very disappointed with the Winmau Fusion flights. I had one crack on me after a few games of cricket and 1 bounce out. I've been using the Condor Axe fights every since the came out and NEVER had one crack or break. Yes a few nicks and scratches which is to be expected but NO breaks or cracks. Condor Axe flights are more expensive but they are worth it.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Not had any breaks yet but heard a few have.
@jasonwyatt771411 ай бұрын
Yep, bought a set just before Christmas, haven't thrown them much but cracked a fin last night (I was using Target Swiss Storm points too, to protect the flights). Disappointed!
@DartsReviewChannel11 ай бұрын
@@jasonwyatt7714 was a break from a dart hitting it or it dropping to the floor? What kind of dart are you using?
@jasonwyatt771411 ай бұрын
I'm not 100% sure, but I think from a dart strike (as I don't have many bounce outs). I was using Target PT Gen7 22g darts. @@DartsReviewChannel
@Darts-unboxing-reviews6 ай бұрын
will these fit loudouts
@DartsReviewChannel5 ай бұрын
they fit all darts
@GogReviews Жыл бұрын
High Poweerrrrrrr!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Yay! :)
@GogReviews Жыл бұрын
Can feel it alreet!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@GogReviews Me too lol!
@jmeirish Жыл бұрын
Where do I find these to buy or the k flex
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
All darts shops should have them
@jmeirish Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannelok I guess darts corner don’t have any of the new stuff in yet I will try some other site 👍🏻
@pman4578 Жыл бұрын
@@jmeirishi think i ordered k flex off Amazon
@derekwren4104 Жыл бұрын
@@jmeirishdarts corner don’t stock target or winmau
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@jmeirish ah yes as @derekwren4104 said, I forgot DC dont stock Winmau any more. Try Double Top Darts or Premier Darts or Darts GB, I think the Red Dragon site sell them also :)
@frankyvanloo8846 Жыл бұрын
Was er zeer tevreden over tot er een vleugel afbrak nadat deze op de grond viel
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Yeah I seen your reply on Facebook and commented on there. Hopefully its just a one off but will need to hear from many people to be sure yet. What size shaft was it?
@andrewmuttonandy Жыл бұрын
I just bought a set of medium Fusion flights but they were not as flexible as the ones that you had. Or maybe i am not as strong as you lol
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
LOL you need to lift weights then :P
@LanPower_Fuk810 Жыл бұрын
No store sailing Winmau Fusion in Asia yet
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Maybe some patent/copyright issue? Can always buy from shops online in other countries I guess :)
@certifiedsonny Жыл бұрын
So far i tried condor zero flex, condor axe and target kflex Kflex is better.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Well it is for you but its not better "full stop". I dont think there is ever such a thing as best with things like darts equipment as people have such varied throws and likes, what works well for one does not work so well for another. What is it that you like best about the K-Flex compared to the others?
@certifiedsonny Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel sorry i forgot. I should have said.... kflex is better for me.
@Cowabunga10101 Жыл бұрын
I read that the headline said Winmau Frustrated flight and shaft review😄 I really shouldnt watch KZbin tired and crosseyed😂 Edit: nice 180 with very cute Rocky celebration🥰
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
LOL why not, I play cross eyed with double vision, try it its fun, lol! :) Thanks, always nice to catch a max on video :)
@michael4382 Жыл бұрын
"Get a grip!". Ha ha
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
I need to! :)
@michael4382 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work.
@kvajeblostari Жыл бұрын
Condor axe fly better than k flex for me
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Think they are for me too, think the Fusion are also, could just be down to flight size though so will have to wait to test the Target K-Flex NO 2 standards :)
@kvajeblostari Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel im gonna buy fusion too try too 😃
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@kvajeblostari let me know how you get on :)
@JumaBowi Жыл бұрын
180!!
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
👍😊💚
@piotrkamienowski3737 Жыл бұрын
one problem, there is no REAL green and... red 🤣
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
I know, its shocking! :)
@piotrkamienowski3737 Жыл бұрын
🤣@@DartsReviewChannel
@tomgengar Жыл бұрын
No green ? Nah ... borring lol
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
just magic green as shown :P
@tomgengar Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel of course . Did i ever mentioned that i like green ?
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
@@tomgengarno never!
@tomgengar Жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel its the best color lol
@davidyendoll5903 Жыл бұрын
First ? lol
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
no you are 2nd :P
@andrewgrebenchan6951 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and a great price aswel gotta get me some