Winmau FUSION Integrated Flight & Shaft Review

[@WorldwideDarts]

*Double Top Darts* www.doubletopdartshop.com/products/fusion-integrated-flight-shaft-by-winmau?_pos=1&_sid=a1b1c3f61&_ss=r

[@podon002]

Another informative review. I'm not sure if any other companies are coming out with molded/intergrated flights, but a round-up comparing of all of them would be nice to see. There's been a few lately, so it's hard to keep track of all the comments in each review.

[@ninjaness6051]

I had a set of these show up in the mail 3 days ago and they didn't last 2 hours before before breaking at the flight. Had the same problem with the CONDOR Neon ones as well but was throwing with those since July.

[@WorldwideDarts]

How are you guys killing off flights like that? My darts are set up in a way where it's almost impossible for me to damage flights.

[@GamesGreene]

same. but my condors last awhile.

[@grahammusto7759]

Been using fusions for a couple of months. Damage to one flight only and very few bounce outs. Quality.

[@graun007]

figured i should drop a comment on this because my experience with these is definitely a possibility for anyone. i picked up two sets of these when they dropped and had to stop using them within a week because i already went through four and they literally shattered. nothing like a dent or a crack, i had four of them literally have their wings snap off. this would've been in roughly seven hours of play (an hour of practice a day). this wasn't to say my play with them was bad; they actually flew pretty smoothly and i enjoyed them while they were in shape. just an fyi for anyone considering (i had the axe condors before these with the same barrels/points and they held up great for three months with only one crack)

[@FlyinHawaiian101]

Always used Condor Axes but tried the K Flex because of the cost and broke the bottom half of one of the wings off just from hitting another flight in the board as I have specialty points. Just received my fusions and currently trying them out myself to see durability. If these are like the Target K flex I will have to return to the condors

[@matthewdoubleday1409]

I have had these for a few weeks now and they are still in great condition

[@TikTalk]

They are as same durable as Condors Axe for me. Way better than Target K-Flex

[@dufek005]

Thought I would really enjoy these but I have completely busted up two sets playing a little over 30 games.

[@tonygandee9100]

I paid $32.00 Australian for mine, then $5.00 for the Target K flex which in my option are much better

[@WorldwideDarts]

What!!! That's $$$!!!

[@jurgendevos-xc7hk]

I wonder if the prices will drop from the condors now they have competition

[@WorldwideDarts]

I think they will have to lower prices. All the new flights surely took away from their sales

[@ficklemcselfish5773]

out of all the brands of moulded shafts and flights, which ones do you say are the best mate?

[@WorldwideDarts]

After reading the comments here I can rule these ones out. I think the most versatile ones are L-Style Fantom. So many options with them. Personally I use Condor slims. If these companies came out with a slim option I'd be willing to experiment.

[@ficklemcselfish5773]

@WorldwideDarts thanks for the feedback mate. Keep up the great work 👍 🎯

[@jasonwyatt7714]

I bought a set just before Christmas, I've not thrown them much but had a fin split last night (and I was using Swiss Storm points for flight protection). Disappointed!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Ouch! Yeah, the comment section isn't looking good. Many others with the same results

[@jasonwyatt7714]

@@WorldwideDarts Hi! I thought it was only fair to Winmau if I updated on my post. I purchased a new set of the Fusions, and after over two months of matches and practice sessions (which is a lot of hours of throwing), the flights are still in mint condition. I'm now very impressed with their durability (again its worth noting I use Swiss Storm points)

[@TikTalk]

I have to edit my previous opinion - Winmau's Fusion system is fragile AF :/ During last training we smashed 3 (THREE!) pieces. They just fell to the ground (onto the wooden parquet) and broke into pieces. I've never had this with Condors or K-flexes.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Sounds like the rest of the comments. Lot's of reports of fins falling off.

[@HnaoS]

I had used the Condors for some time in the past with success but returned to a traditional set up due to the crazy cost. I grabbed a set of these last week and everything was going well - I was even thinking this could lead to match darts change - until one of the moulds fell out yesterday and I was left with a 3 sided flight. This left the other 2 ineffective since I only grabbed the one set. Also one of the mould broke off at the top from an incoming dart, which wouldn't happen on a Condor. All in all they felt good in the beginning but then fell apart quickly. The condors might be significantly more expensive but I personally feel they're a much more durable product.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Wow! So the actual wings fell off? That's what someone else said in the comment section but I didn't quite understand what they meant. I didn't even think that was possible. Maybe some sort of defect?

[@GamesGreene]

same for me. broke so many the last couple weeks. just sucks because they fly just like condors at half the price. i bought multiple sets so running threw them until i run out. i have a stack of condors waiting for me

[@in2deepband]

I've just started playing since Christmas when I bought my son a dart board for Christmas (was for me too obviously) to help him count. I love your videos and they're very helpful. Just bought a set of LL loaded sp 90. Added some Swiss point storm points and K flex flight all because of your videos. I've had 5 180's since Christmas.....remember I'm a beginner. And I live in Scotland and have used double top darts. Thanks for helping a total beginner

[@WorldwideDarts]

Awesome to read comments like this. Keep it up 👍🏻

[@kvajeblostari]

Get new ones yestrday, today drops and wing broke, crap of a fusion....

[@WorldwideDarts]

They blow

[@kvajeblostari]

@@WorldwideDarts yeah in next 10min another one😕

[@smiffy7890]

I picked up 3 different coloured sets up just over a week ago (Dartshopper) and mine have held up without any issues, I’m suitably impressed. Also ordered some Falcon 22g CT2 from Darts Clearance the other day which arrived today not had chance to throw them but they look and feel real nice. Great stuff WWD 👍🏻

[@WorldwideDarts]

Wait until you see the new Falcon's coming for the DC Black Friday sale. So nice....

[@screamingvteccc]

These fusions broke playing soft tip darts garbage

[@aldersonkevin1894]

Everybody copy condor

[@srdjanaleksic4924]

As they should, and make it cheaper. That's called competition, bro.

[@marcsouter]

I really like the fusions, i've been using mine for about a week now. Still seem in great condition

[@GamesGreene]

i do not recommend these at all if you play on hardwood floors and get bounce outs. the first week i threw these i broke 4 of them. two of my buddies same thing. this is really only an issue for me when i play soft tip. you get way more bounce outs. but the set on my steel tips are looking and flying great. no damage at all. i was a condor thrower for the last 4 years. with these being half the price as condors i had to give them a try. they fly exactly and feel identical to the condors. just stay away for soft tip!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻

[@drazenmustafic4497]

Im not happy with winmau. They are nice but i play with them 40 min and 1 flights just fall a part totaly..not for me...targer is ok..but winmau big noo

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'm guessing you don't have specialty points. Makes a HUGE difference.

[@drazenmustafic4497]

@@WorldwideDarts that hapend in soft tip..

[@drazenmustafic4497]

All side of flights glue off..just fall a part

[@WorldwideDarts]

Someone else said the same thing. Defective?

[@anikinmw4583]

😢

[@BeeneUSMC]

Same Here. Bought 5 sets. Lemmi start with I LOVE THE COLOR. THEY LOOK LIKE FIBER OPTICS flying. However , within 30 mins had a flight bounce out hit floor and snapped a wing. So bumbed.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Ouch!

[@T-rock_chr0n1c]

I finally hit 3 reds bulls a few weeks ago then again a few days ago... u make it look so easy...lol cheers

[@WorldwideDarts]

Congrats. No easy feat there!

[@seanrobesyn7808]

Great video sir! Good looking molded flight at a good price. I am looking at the K-flexes, are you reviewing those too soon? Only 3 colours at the moment but I like them. I preffer not to mix brands within darts. Like no Target darts with Winmau Fusions 🙈 Would you do a new James Wade review (the black and blue new ones). I LOVE them. 🤞🤞🤞 Tnx brother!

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'll look into the James Wade darts. Thanks bud! 👍🏻

[@seanrobesyn7808]

@@WorldwideDarts sweet! I was drewling all over them again yesterday in the dart shop. I got some medium white K-flexes for my Chris Dobey darts. Gotta commit to those now. But pretty sure I'll buy these Wade ones as well in the near future. They are so calling my name. Anyway looking forward to your review if you decide to do one. 🤞🤞

[@beatzguy]

How do these compares vs AK5s?

[@WorldwideDarts]

After reading the feedback here in the comment section I would probably avoid them. Although I'm finding them to be just fine.

[@jacogrobler7368]

Hi The flights dont last they do break when you have darts falling out of the board

[@TheWebjunky007]

Mine broke after 2days testing , 1 wing broke off

[@eddiemurphy5833]

Is there different sizes of these out yet like #6 or slim i know there is different colors

[@user-cv7ey6fb4c]

They look awesome

[@jjgamezz6763]

Today … after 2 weeks a whole tear

[@IchliebeHunde58]

These seem too bendy for my liking. I am also so pleased with Condor or K-Flex that I am not necessarily looking for anything different, BUT, since I do like to try new thing (and add to my collection) I will probably give these a try and see for myself how they perform. Thanks for the video and putting out quality content!

[@WorldwideDarts]

I wouldn't say they're all that bendy. The stem part is maybe slightly more flexible but it's so rigid that it's not going to bend out of the way for an incoming dart like the Condor Zero Stress would. I also just tested the stiffness of the flights compared to the Condor Axe and I'd say that the Fusions are ever so slightly more rigid. BUT... I asked my girlfriend which is more rigid and she said the Condor's. Either way it's almost too close to call. edit... I switched up the colors and had her try again. She said the opposite this time 😂 I need someone more reliable for these tests

[@papacrl]

I had the of these flights crack on me after a few games of cricket and 1 bounce out. In my opinion the Condor flights is way superior to the Winmau. I've been using Condor Axe flights ever since came out and never had one break or had one of the flights split. Yes the Condors cost more but the Fusion flights have nothing on the Condors as far as the quality. With all do respect I disagree with you in your comparison of the flights. The Condor Axe flights are WAY superior!

[@WorldwideDarts]

As I stated in this video I needed to do further testing on the durability and asked the subscribers for feedback as to how they're holding up. Reading the comments it seems like these are crap and most likely defective as the wings are falling off many of them. Nothing to disagree with really. I can only comment on what my first impressions are.

[@lewissmales]

As the Australasian wholesaler … Don’t forget Cuesoul ROST T19 flights that now come with a carbon insert.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I saw those on AliExpress a couple weeks ago. They're on my list! 👍🏻

[@joshmondragon9916]

I bought the yellow, orange, and black ones in short… axe is in big trouble. They fly amazing and they are exactly the same as the condor. I’m a condor fan boy and I cannot say I’ll buy them again if they are not competitive on the price. At this point I can get 3 of these to one condor. Yikes 😳 I disagree on the size assessment, they are identical to the condor standard. Otherwise good video brother

[@WorldwideDarts]

I measured with the calipers. The Condor small is 33mm across. The Fusion is 34mm and the Condor standard is 36mm.

[@bigfrinl7525]

I want you to review the 🦄 contender dartboard with 2x bigger triples and doubles. And i challenge you to throw a perfect 501 game on it

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'll try 👍🏻

[@BADThreeXL]

I had to grab a set of these in the orange to match the Firestorm Flame barrels. Have you seen the XQMax ones? Seem like just trimmed down the wings of the CyeeLife V2s.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I just had a look at the XQMax catalog. Yeah, those are looking straight out of AliExpress 😂

[@noweanji]

Hello which of the target storm points should i buy? Can you give me a link? Also how many mm should i get?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Black Storm points are perfect. 26mm are similar to stock length points and 30mm are slightly longer if you prefer that. www.doubletopdartshop.com/products/target-storm-black-replacement-dart-points?_pos=4&_sid=20d93a491&_ss=r

[@Jhyles83]

i bought a set 2 weeks ago and one of them snapped in the barrel. Do they suggest using o rings with thewm because i couldnt see whether they said to or not?

[@WorldwideDarts]

You shouldn't need o-rings with these.

[@andrewredpath8204]

Great review been contemplated getting a set. Did I hear right wing size is more like the small condor thanks

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks. Yeah, the flights are more like the Condor small.

[@kirkwayte4727]

Good review WWD, what darts did you use on the first three darts at the Bull, at the start of the vid ? Ty 🎯

[@WorldwideDarts]

19g copper tungsten darts from Darts Clearance 👍🏻

[@williamurbaniak222]

If you bought them, didn't you try your own discount code?

[@WorldwideDarts]

I don't have a discount code. I use the same ones everyone else uses. Winmau products generally have never worked with a discount code though. I probably forgot to check my order form before recording the video though

[@danielbarna1385]

There are many condor "copies", but none are as good as the condor. For example, this fusion breaks easily, I also had a broken my stem.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I was wondering how the skinny stems might hold up to a bounce out on a hard floor.

[@danielbarna1385]

@@WorldwideDarts Unfortunately not well. 😬 . But this is probably because of what you described, that it could have cracked while falling to the floor, and then the stem broke in two during one of the throws.🙁So I'll stick with the condor.😀

[@__xtimeeezz-cae8203]

my felt on the flor at second turn, and two wings brake apart instantlly, condors are n1, more expensive but they worth the price 😊

[@WorldwideDarts]

What sort of floor are you playing on? Concrete?

[@__xtimeeezz-cae8203]

@@WorldwideDarts I play on laminate, and I have a carpet over the laminate, I bought two pairs of flights and they both broke, while my condors fell on the tiles and everywhere and it never broke 😐

[@mezohmorf1371]

I just placed an order for these on double top and after the discount code it came to $19.55 cad and I really hope they are not like the K Flex, I hated those and they did NOT perform like condors. I hope these do because condors are $30 dollars CAD now... :(

[@WorldwideDarts]

Oh man, you guys have it bad up there! I think it's crazy because in Canada darts is pretty popular. Obviously not like hockey but darts is right up there and on top of that you always have a great depth of world class players. Yet at the same time you get cracked over the head with the price of darts and dart supplies. I checked out a couple popular online Canadian dart shops and the prices are shocking.

[@mezohmorf1371]

@@WorldwideDarts yea it’s nuts I got a corona light shipped from the uk back when darts corner was good and the shipping was more than the light and it was still cheaper than the local darts and billiards shop in Halifax! And yea hockey is life up here go sens go!

[@WorldwideDarts]

We have the Utica Comets here in town. I LOVE going to their games. I'm a new fan

[@kenzodewuffel5556]

Can you please do a unicorn week

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'm going to have to get the new Unicorn board for sure.

[@Michael_van_Gerwyn]

These do look nice, i like the vibrant colors but i think i will just wait for the fantoms, a guy in my league uses them and hes already had 2 break, he switched from condors and hes had mixed feeling about these. Great review as always tho 👍

[@WorldwideDarts]

Curious as to how they broke. Steel tip or soft tip? Specialty points?

[@Michael_van_Gerwyn]

@@WorldwideDarts steel tip, he uses mission sniper ripple points so no lip, and not a super heavy dart only 21g, one was on a bounce out in the legion branch we play out of which has thick full carpeting, the thin part of the stem snapped in half. The other was a little weirder, 2 of the fins started cracking, no idea how it happened.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Hmm, reading this and some of the other comments I wonder if there's a defect in the moulding process?

[@1972vulture]

That board is wearing

[@WorldwideDarts]

It's WAY too soft

[@greggsmith7388]

Excellent review here! I gotta admit the color of these things really grabbed my eye! It’s almost a burnt orange, love it! I am very well stocked with Condor Axe however these are next on my list when I need flights.

[@mikedell3144]

Worldwide ; nice review. I have 3 sets of the Winmau fusion flights (all short) and so far they are holding up well; also no crazy bounces yet. BTW; I received the Leonard Gates darts and have thrown them some; I agree, they're pretty grippy. My best groups where when I was holding them lightly in my fingers to throw them. But I do like them. Thanks and keep the reviews rolling

[@WorldwideDarts]

Cheers Mike. Yeah, the Gates are grippy but it seems like there's a quick adjustment period. I think most players could get used to them pretty quickly.

[@islandspurs4041]

Great review as always thank you

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks for watching!