Winspace Hyper 50 vs Zipp 303 S Carbon Wheels: Which Are Best?

[@TheExtremePower]

great honest review. i used to think the same about Winspace and Lun wheels. i bought a pair of disc 50 hypers in November 2021. 1st impressions were so great that in Jan 2022 ordered a second pair. well, my 1st pair never held air for more than 3 days in the front wheel. i blamed it on other possible issues. after i received my second set, i noticed the same thing . front wheel not holding air for more than 2 or 3 days. i tried 3 different brand of tires with the same result. i contacted Winspace and they requested serial numbers and the likes. 3 weeks went by and no feedback from Winspace. i contacted them again and they recommended i replace the valve stem. i tried that and no improvement. after another 2 weeks of emails with Winspace they offered a $200 credit due to the fact that the only solution they could come up with was for me to use the front wheels with inner tubes. i agreed to it. it has been more than 3 weeks now and no refund and no communication from Winspace. i am assuming i have been taken by another chinese manufacturer like many people have. do not be fooled by all the great reviews. people are getting paid to post them.

[@behemoth4392]

I developed that issue after 1k miles, new rim tape solved the problem

[@protonjicari5990]

Its really better buying new products on shops coz theyll probably do something on warranty issues. Got mine and had same problem but returned it after 6 months, got new batch and didnt have any problem now, though the shop recommend me changing sealant brand

[@MrTeff999]

Did you try replacing the rim tape? I would do that before trying different tires.

[@Tim_McMurray]

One positive of the stiffness is these wheels turn like no others, and respond unbelievable is a sprint or out if saddle effort. They are a criterium monster if that is what you're looking for. And seriously light , my 50mm rim brake set weighs in at 1337g on my scales.

[@Robke250]

Picked up the 303s this week for 820€ (Belgium), can't say I wasn't influenced by some of your older videos on these :) The discount I got pulled me across the line and only 2 rides in, I'm already loving them!! They were an upgrade to my basic alloy wheels that came with the Specialized Roubaix comp 2021. It's such a comfortable and fast ride now, can't wait for the next ride already.

[@rickbeckner9906]

Perfect wheels for that bike!

[@PaganiZondaF650hp]

Did you buy them at Mantel? I’ll also probably go for them as they really have no competition at 800€

[@Robke250]

@@PaganiZondaF650hp yes I did, delivered the day after. Wanted to get the Conti GP 5000 S TR's but they were nowhere to be found, so I got the Schwalbe Pro One's instead. 350km's in, still loving my set-up :)

[@quentendeclercq9165]

@@Robke250 what MM of tyres did you put on them?

[@Robke250]

@@quentendeclercq9165 28mm, wanted to go 30 but that was nowhere in stock, but 28 is probably perfect for these...

[@ronradmer3573]

Can You do another video comparing carbon wheels in the same $900 a $1200 price range where you ride, test and review other manufactures such as Roval, HED, Mavic, Reynolds, Zipp, Winspace and perhaps Shimano. That will give you at least seven sets of wheels to test. Then you can give your thoughts on all of them, how they compare against each other, the pluses and minuses for each one and then perhaps pick your top two wheel sets and explain why. This would probably be one of the best wheelset reviews on the Internet and KZbin.

[@PuneethBedre]

Really looking forward to this video.

[@bboystretch7788]

I have a pair of Enve 3.4 RIM and now replaced them with Winspace Hyper 50. I’ve done about 400km on the Hypers but here are my thoughts. Winspace are very stiff and very snappy. Laterally, stiffer than the Enves although the Enves where certainly not flexy. The Hypers are more harsh and when you hit a pot hole or divet, its more jarring. The Hypers feel faster. The Enves are a shallower in the front and I never had cross wind issues. But with Hypers I did feel a cross wind blast on windy days. The Enves, on paper are slightly wider and if thats the case then they do feel more comfy. The Hypers feel more “solid” if that makes any sense. The Hyper hubs are very loud but I’ve seemed to have gotten used to it. The original bearings with the Enves (Ceramic Speed) did feel smoother if I remember correctly. But frankly not worth it as too expensive. My Enves are the ones with ceramic hub. Between the two, the Hypers are faster overall but harsher and yes, higher cross wind impacted. Would I buy them again, definitely. I like how they ride - snappy and solid - albeit not so good on the harshness side.

[@tonyg3091]

The Hypers are among the stiffest wheels out there, that's for sure. Noticeably stiffer than the Giant stock wheels that come with the TCR. I however ride them tubeless with 28mm GP5000s and that makes the ride quite comfy. Cross winds don't bother me, being 90 kilos has its benefits :):):)

[@bboystretch7788]

@@tonyg3091 sweet. I’m 64kg. And I should add the Hyper 50 climb awesome!!! I would never have thought a 50 deep wheel could feel so good climbing- and that I believe boils down to its very light weight.

[@bboystretch7788]

Oh. As for braking. The enves are excellent even in the wet. In the dry they beat the hypers too. Both using their original pads. I haven’t tried the Hypers in torrential rain but I have the enves and the grooved brake track made a HUGE difference. Might have to do with the pads though too.

[@thebespokecyclist3624]

The crosswind issue is supposedly fixed in the new Hypers they just released a few days ago.

[@nochancecw]

I think he under plays the Hypers. Im 6000km on my hyper, they are lock. I'm also 90kg and these are stiff enough for my sprinting. He is right they are a bit harsher but if you want stiff wheels, this is how it goes. Lighter, stiffer, better bearings, carbon spokes and faster - not much to talk about really. The more you support good eastern brands, the more western brands drive prices down and drive product quality up. Winspace/Lun, Farsports and Yoeleo are making our western products more competitive and cheaper, it's a good idea to give them a look.

[@adccars359]

His reviews are biased to mainstream technology. I still like his comparison videos though.

[@123supporter]

I absolutely agree

[@ianhaigh9786]

Interesting that the Hypers have just been updated, different depth and profile on front v rear to maximise aero whilst reducing front wheel side wind affects (or at lest that's the theory). They've also reduced the weight slightly, increased the width slightly and other small changes.... interesting.

[@faosa73]

I have the win space 50 rim brake. I agree with the comment on wind. took them to the highest passes of Colorado, where it blows often, and it was a bad experience with the strongest gusts. I’m heavy at 85kg, for reference. For comfort I agree with conti 5000 25mm. I followed peaktorq and put the 28mm they still go fast and the comfort is amazing at 80 psi back 76 front. Btw the tire you have on the video is not flush with the rim like the conti 5000 25mm do. I mostly ride in flat lands and I love these wheels. I had to learn how to true these wheels but since I did it they have been stable. The company does a great job answering emails and giving information.

[@pe3117]

I have a pair of Zipp 303s on my SL7 and I love them…I love that they are for gravel use too so they are light and very robust

[@tonyg3091]

I ride the same combination- GIANT TCR Advanced+ Hyper 50mm. Frankly, nothing to complain about.

[@domefford864]

Same!

[@nickdalamagas3540]

Same .. just under 9k of riding, never had an issue, still run true & fast. Yes, stiff & can be harsh but you need to sacrifice a touch for performance.. Highly recommend 👍

[@AndyPass1976]

I have 50mm Hyper wheels. They look and sound great. Fantastic on the flat paths of Canberra. I don't find them great climbing, but that's probably because I drank too much beer and ate too many pies during Covid.

[@rikky1705]

I have hyper 50 rims, hyper 60 disk, the 2022 hyper D45 disk all with Conti GP5000. Love them all.

[@global_nomad.]

have been riding these for almost a year, currently on veloflex tyres. very happy with them overall....the noisy freehub is useful in town to warn people you're coming...but a little annoying coasting in the countryside -- just have to keep pedalling...less disturbed by wind than my previous hunt wheels and the ride feels fine to me, a little more care with tyre pressure required to get the comfort balance feeling right.

[@rickbeckner9906]

Excellent and fair comparison. I have the Zipp 303s and really like them. I run them on my gravel bike. While I am running tubeless, I’m not sure you were right that you can’t run these with tubes. I thought you can run the hookless Zipp 303s with tubes so long as you are using a hookless compatible tire. (That said, if you are wanting to maximize the benefits of the tire, tubeless is probably the way to go).

[@supermitendo9654]

The maximum tyre pressure on hookless rims is 72.5 psi. You can insert a tube but most people will exceed that limit unless they use 28, 30, or even 32mm tyres depending on weight.

[@alexfirth]

I've been planning on picking up a pair of Hypers some time this year. Winspace are teasing a new version of the Hypers coming July 1st on their social pages. they're hinting they'll have a wider internal rim width (which should improve comfort further) and a new freehub design. best way to avoid crosswinds is to have a shallower rim depth, so the 38mm versions are the ones to buy here. I'd rule out the Zipps instantly by not being available for rim brakes and being hookless only which to me is flat out dangerous on the road.

[@vietnguyen4312]

Also look at the Elite Drive wheels with a wider rims. Basically the same wheel besides the rim but a little lighter and cheaper. 3 year warranty

[@n22pdf]

Be great to see your review of the Elite Drive 50D wheels.. awesome vid as always

[@RealMeatyBalls]

yep

[@vietnguyen4312]

The Hypers are less comfortable because they are incredibly stiff. As a result these wheels a more responsive than the Zipps and Enve wheels. This responsiveness is felt while climbing, particularity out of the saddle and sprinting. Narrow rims and tyres are faster overall but a similar wheel to the Hyper but with a wider rim are the Elite Drive wheels that I have not tested. I am 59kg and have had very little problems with the Hyper 50mm rim. Also, it could be argued that a filament wound rim being machine made is less likely to have voids, contamination and defects than a hand carbon laid rim.

[@grahambowes756]

I love my 303s wheels. And as you say, for a light rider, I find them benign in crosswind. I use them with the tyres feature in you film. No complaints there either

[@danc1829]

I almost brought the hypers in 38mm but ended up getting some bora wto's on the cycle scheme in the UK so the price difference with the wiggle discount applied worked out pretty well 😉 The hub noise would totally put me off its OK for the first 10 minutes but I'd find it annoying on a long event. Great video David Nice to see you're reviewing more Eastern brands these days. I'm currently looking at the winspace SL2 frameset as its very light with direct mount rim brakes 😉 Hope you have a nice weekend 👍

[@arjanschild3552]

I have put some all purpose grease in the free hub and that made them completely silent.

[@mikeloncoski5574]

You say hookless bead has advantages, like what? The rotational weight saving on the rim? Your limited on tires, pressure, tubes for what gain exactly?

[@FunMushizzle]

Winspace Hypers any day over Zip 303S... tried both and the Winspaces construction and stiffness is second to none.

[@user-nu5fx6en9h]

Lol 😂😂😂

[@JGDoan]

Lol How much Chinese people paid you for this comment?

[@boogiexx]

@@user-nu5fx6en9h why the heck are you laughing? winspace are faster, lighter and better looking wheels. The only thing zipp has on them is warranty.

[@byrondixon4648]

Interesting to hear you can feel the difference in comfort in deep carbon wheels. I had heard the Hypers were really really stiff - good for Sprinting. The comfort is a good recommendation for nice lighter stainless spokes. I'd also put more grease in the freehub... Too loud become irritating 🙂

[@dylf14]

Zipp lifetime warranty is all you need to know. I own a set of 303s. I ride them without fear even on rough roads. Haven't tried them on gravel yet, but will next season.

[@wsbygt]

Great insight David! I´m running 303 FC with (Very Loud) DT Swiss 180EXP hubs in my main race bike and after reading some reviews I went for the UCI approved LightBicycle WR (hookless) rims with ZR1 hubs for my trainning/gravel Giant Defy. They look good with satin gloss finish and the support has been really great, so, lets see as Km´s go by. Euros for Euros I´ll probably always go for household brands like Zipp, Dt Swiss or Enve.

[@hugobulleid7029]

I think you should put the Hunt Carbon spoke wheelsets in this comparison. Similar price point and would be interesting to know how they compare

[@cycling_harley]

I’ve got the Hyper 50’s in rim break and disc break. Done over 5000km on the disc set and still going strong. I bought 2 spare hubs from winspace for $60 each 😂 haven’t needed them yet but they sound so cool I wanna try and put them in my other wheels 👌🏻

[@fVNzO]

You probably already found out about this but I'm pretty sure the hubs are only compatible with their carbon spokes and therefore off course, their rims as well. I doubt you'll be able to fabricate some third party parts to use their hubs on.

[@cycling_harley]

@@fVNzO haha nah man. I actually bought some spare hubs off em. Cost me like 80 a pop. Still I’m garage in a box still

[@Notorious_MIG]

I got a pair of Hypers and they don't feel overly harsh to me. I don't consider Toronto roads smooth, but they felt pretty good even at 90 psi. One big difference is that the Zipps are not available for rim brake bikes, so if you have an older bike (or just opted for rims), your options are a little more limited.

[@romepoblete8488]

I don’t mind paying a bit more extra for Zipp, they stand by their lifetime replacement warranty. I had cracked a 303 S on a gravel ride and I had a new replacement rear wheel in 3weeks time with an amazing support staff. I’m more into the piece of mind that I don’t need to baby a known brand carbon rim wheel. I also own an enve 4.5ar because of the same reason, although now they have changed their warranty cover which was disappointing.

[@craigg9742]

I got a pair of the 65mm earlier this year and first thing I did was add some grease into the freehub to quiet it down. I don't want noise complaints or to get pulled over by the police for being too noisy.

[@tgc281]

I did the same!

[@charliedillon1400]

How do you do it? Does the manufacturer recommend this? Does added grease slow down the rolling resistance? I hate noisy hubs; they are for obnoxious wankers just like Harley Davidsons.

[@tgc281]

@@charliedillon1400 take the wheel out. rotate the cassette counter clockwise and pull at the same time it’ll pop right out. You’ll then see the paws, little teardrop shaped pieces that pivot with a spring keeping them pre loaded. Add a tiny more grease to those and the surface they interface with on the hub. Then just pop it back on by pushing down and rotating counterclockwise. Yes excess grease adds resistance.

[@KenSmith-bv4si]

I have the Zipp 303 Firecrest for two reasons, I'm a retired Union Boilermaker so bought Zipp wheels because they're made in the USA, number2 reason, watching your review of the Zipp wheels David. I wanted the 353 NSW wheels but, my bank account said otherwise at 4200.00 dollars.

[@Tim_McMurray]

Add a bit of grease to the free hub as winspace have only a tiny bit of thin grease. Then the noise is about the same as any other wheel

[@TheRealKaner]

I have the Hyper 50mm DB. And you've pretty much had the same experiences that I've encountered. But, as I won them in a GCN competition, they were essentially free...and I am not going to complain at that...they are noisy...

[@JBR.1974]

lifetime warranty is of course a great thing to have, but worth notiing its a one and done. Love to see if you get to review the Hyper 2023 SE's

[@JustinEastmanMedia]

How come no one Reviews the LUN Version instead of the Hypers. They are just as good and far cheaper for the majority of people

[@darrinschwarz7446]

I chose a pair of Mercury S5’s instead due to rider weight and more durability Got them for $909 on sale

[@gearknobz]

Hi Dave Great comparison. Tempted with 303s but worried about losing speed due to lower pressure.

[@davidarthur]

I run 60-65psi for my weight and no loss of speed at all

[@quarkonium3795]

Even if you do end up losing a bit of speed it will be compensated by a lower rolling resistance

[@chrisko6439]

Thanks for reporting the freehub is so loud. WAS thinking about purchasing a pair of these.

[@zhengtaoteo4289]

There are actually some carbon fibre wheelsets to recommend, such as the vortex, but they are not available in Europe.

[@nottyR6]

I don't like a noisy free hub, my Hunt's are the same. Plus comfort is high on my agenda, but I still want speed and light weight although I think 303s are OK. Finally there's the brand name when you come to sell them on.

[@jegerm6752]

I used to love loud freehub but these days I find them quite irritating and sometimes embarrassing to be honest. I have dt180 hub and when new, the noise level was ideal though sometimes the noise weirdly faded and then came back again. Now they’re super loud and I’m not loving the noise. I’m gonna add some more grease when it comes time to service the wheels. I heard it helps dampen the noise a little bit.

[@aaron_TanCK]

Have the same combo, giant tcr with winspace 50 disc. running gp5k tl 25mm, 70 psi front 75 psi rear, im 64kg and if super comfortable. would disagree with you in the road feedback thou.

[@pierssamson4069]

Try some scribe wheels pls and some light bicycle wheels…. There should be a group test

[@jediavatar]

When I went from a pair of Ultegra wheels on my CX bike (a Felt f2x which I was using as a road bike) to a 2015 Giant with ZIPP 303 Firecrest wheels, the noise level was NUTS. The ZIPPs were so noisy in comparison, I still don’t Iike them. These Winspace wheels seem even noisier! I could not handle that. I prefer the nearly silent freehub of the Ultegra wheels on my Felt f2x.

[@CyclingInsider]

What is the warranty on Winspace wheels? And how easy it is to speak to customer service? Zipp is pretty clear with that.

[@darrylmaudsley2208]

I bought superteam carbon wheels from china £265 with spare forks set of brake pads very lightweight and they are brilliant.

[@walshman70]

Aren't these the wheels that have problems with the carbon spokes spinning so the blade ends up going in the wrong direction? I seem to recall a bunch of posts about that...

[@mate6500]

Hi David, do you plan to test Hunt wheels and compare with Zipp 303 S? Would be amazing!

[@davidarthur]

Hoping to feature some Hunt wheels soon 👍

[@hanssolocolnago8347]

Fast Forward do great sets if you're on a budget.

[@elijg6104]

You should compare wheels at an even cheaper price point next

[@dominicward3523]

I have the Lun Winspace 45s. Nice wheels and great price.

[@vongdong10]

Just stick more grease in if you're concerned with a loud hub

[@wongchristian5181]

HYPER，made by winspace，in China，we only cost about 600 pounds to buy this amazing whees set.Cadex seems in the same factory made

[@markwilliams-fb8nh]

Did you ever give a review of the Enve 45 foundation? They were installed on your Giant TCR build?

[@rosscads]

I’d like to see you put these head-to-head in a timed test comparison, as you did for the Rovals. The Hyper’s stiffness and light weight are well known, but are they actually as fast as their competitors?

[@940steen]

If you look at Hambini's test, they are the fastest 50mm wheels they tested so far.

[@anekey925]

Man, these guys are hitting up all the youtubers

[@glennoc8585]

Haha yeah you might see some in the used market soon as so many have been gifted out. David's review is impartial and he's found both the good and bad.

[@davidarthur]

And worth adding these are going back to Winspace now the review has been published as well

[@glennoc8585]

@@davidarthur That very transparent of you David. I haven't heard of any other reviewers saying they are sending stuff back very often. I think Luke from trace velo us pretty open about parts that he buys in his own accord or is gifted. Personally I have no qualms about free products to reviewers or commentators good luck to them.

[@davidarthur]

I think I need to make this clear in a future video, that all the products I test always go back and aren’t free gifts

[@onelongroad]

303s on my everyday bike crashing into potholes, gravel … go where I please.. if they are happy to warranty them for lifetime then I’ll use them all the time!

[@limwiching2277]

Too noise, prefer silent hub, any guide to modify hub to complete silent (all wheel brand).

[@gregkane8635]

I like a noisy hub - have you tried the prime wheelsets? Really cheap value. Is there much difference in the comfort on these compared to the zipps? How do both compare to the enve?

[@321seb]

how does the ride feel compare to the zipp 303s?

[@DEXVD]

Which wheels would you recommend in a mid depth for good wind stability (I'm

[@andrewbardwell4832]

Aeolus RSL 51 (or the Pros). Really nice design, great hubs, no weight limit and an excellent warranty.

[@faosa73]

HED are pretty good if you live in the USA

[@nickquirkeart3287]

Hello, how would you compare these with a more recent review you have done on the rovals? I am looking for fastest straight line speed for tts and Critz. D67 hypers 2023 and the model I am looking at. Thanks

[@miguelpeonescudero8675]

which ones would you recommend? Scribe Aero wide 50 or those winspace hyper 50? Thank you

[@1945CCCP]

May i ask what was the weight out of the box and "fully packed" (with valves+tapes+sealant+tires)?

[@ready2ridef4i20]

Would you choose these wheels over the Scribe + 50mm carbon wheels ?

[@saracen888]

Don’t forget the Winspace shipping and import fees. They really add up. The Zipp lifetime warranty is fantastic

[@tgc281]

I bought a Winspace frame and lun wheels I got free shipping and the bike arrived in less than a week. I’m in the states so maybe it’s different for me.

[@damo5219]

Jees, I hate a noisy hub. Detracts from a pleasant ride. Makes me keep pedling, just to avoid the noise

[@talonlan]

I really want a quiet freehub and am looking at buying some carbon wheels this year, Can anyone tell me what brands actually make wheels with quiet freehubs?

[@walshman70]

DT Swiss hubs can be quiet if greased / maintained properly -- I also have a set of Mercury wheels and the hubs are not overly noisey on those

[@richiejames928]

My dt 350 is really very quite. keep the ratchet correctly greased and it’s a flawless hub. I’m not sure if a higher tooth count ratchet will make them louder? Anyone know?

[@glennoc8585]

Fulcrum and campy are fairly quiet

[@anthonyoriordan5967]

shimano high end dura ace wheelsets are almost silent

[@dickieblench5001]

@@anthonyoriordan5967 100%

[@dom5491]

Just wish the finish was different

[@SoSwiff]

Silent free hub please!

[@tommyaditama435]

for all the roads you recommend WS 38mm or 45mm ? please answer thank you

[@abfutrell]

For that price point, Hunt seems to the best.

[@Davido0013]

Hi! 🙂 Maybe u could help to decide what brand and which carbon wheels should I get? My rides are ussualy 30-100km with 100-400 meters of total climbs, so pretty flat. I think I should get around 45-50mm deep wheels? I could buy new zipp 303s from local shop for around 700 EU, or it would worth to spend around 1170 eu for Windpace hyper wheels? Or maybe something else? Also prefer louder hub sound as there where i live many pedestrians walking on bike paths and i dont like bells 🙂

[@yonglingng5640]

Being a hookless wheelset, the 303S limits which tubeless tires you can use. The HYPERs have no such compatibility issue, but due to their carbon-spoked construction, they're not the best at offering compliance, but they're the best at power transfer. Custom-configuring a wheelset to be built by a reputable wheelbuilding studio is one way to get a good pair of wheels without breaking the bank. Nextie carbon rims + Sapim CX-Ray spokes & nipples + DT Swiss 350 with 54T Star Ratchets (since you want a loud hubset) is one configuration I can think of off the top of my head.

[@nl_2652]

Could you review the Bontrager Aeolus 50 - also right around this price point?

[@supermitendo9654]

I’ve got Winspace and Farsports. These are fantastic Chinese carbon rims for the money, but in my experience they don’t do well against crosswinds compared to western brands. The far eastern people sure can build carbon wheels, but it looks like their aerodynamics knowledge is not here yet.

[@aidanmasterson50]

Absolutely hate noisy hubs. I see zero advantage to them in any scenario. These guys have a new version of the Hyper”s coming out soon. I’m hoping they are more optimised for 28’s. If so I’ll get a tub of grease to the pawl’s.

[@vongdong10]

New wheels? Where'd you read about that?

[@aidanmasterson50]

@@vongdong10 I’m subscribed to them and they sent out an email saying something is coming. No details, just a teaser.

[@ZwiftDude]

Love noisy hubs gets you noticed! Plus with loads of pedestrians around, I find it to be a good aural aid on the road.

[@aidanmasterson50]

@@ZwiftDude that is a plus point but on the negative side that noisy thing that momentarily audibly warns a pedestrian is with you the whole ride saying don’t stop peddling, you’ll hate me if you do.

[@saladaufdieeichel]

How would the VEL 3850 RL compare against those two?

[@tommyaditama435]

For Allround your recommen profil 38mm or 45mm ??? Thanks

[@stevocanuck]

how are these wheels long term?

[@ZwiftDude]

Like noisy freehubs! Gets you noticed! As you said "very close, very good and very impressed" so for roughly $1200 bucks compared to $2000-2500 in some wheels, I'd take the very close and very good and very impressed with a few flaws and save $1500 or more lol

[@GOLDEN4122]

how wide tyre can the wheel support? 26 /28..? 12speed

[@ArteUltra1195]

Cmon, there’s no competition here.. The Zipps are cheaper, more futureproof with the wider profile, perfectly usable as gravel wheels, you can pick them up in a store, but most importantly they have lifetime guarantee. I honestly think that they are also faster in the real world due to the shape and wide profile. The only thing that speaks for the Winspace is a weight saving of an insane 75g..

[@dgmast]

David; “which are better”?

[@davidarthur]

Did you watch to the end for my verdict David?

[@dgmast]

@@davidarthur yes I did. Given you come across as an educated Brit., I was being a smarty pants, and correcting your grammar. Love your videos. Any plans to come over to Adelaide in January next year for the TDU? We would sure love to host you ..

[@cyclingclub4030]

@@davidarthur You tried to signal that Winspace were bad, but it came across as ambiguous and you were afraid to offend. You also steered well clear of the quality and durability factors...only pointing out the warrenty gap...which in reality is bigger because most Chinese companies don't honour their warranty!

[@davidarthur]

Ah I see, sorry missed that! Sure I'd love to get over for the TDU never been before that would be amazing! :)

[@billfrigo7602]

Where can you find Zipp 303s on sale? (USA)

[@dairesweeney419]

Bro, put euro prices in your vids.

[@domefford864]

I ride the same bike and same wheels but with 25mm 5000’s. Comfort isn’t a problem…

[@fergusdenoon1255]

A little grease in all my freehubs, I like a quiet ride.

[@cbenson513]

Not a fan of noisy freehubs. I like a quiet bike, especially riding remote roads in the mountains.

[@lattiure]

same, noisy freehubs are overrated.

[@glennoc8585]

I used to like a noisey but I prefer the quiet hubs now

[@tonyg3091]

You need to spin more then :):) No freewheeling is the way to go.

[@cbenson513]

@@tonyg3091 Kind of tough to do on long steep mountain downhills.

[@tonyg3091]

@@cbenson513 Look at the bright side-wildlife hears you coming from miles away and moves out. Also, you will never need a bell in the city.

[@kanuto6745]

This or Elite wheels Drive? Almost same price point.

[@arnaudseynaeve9266]

The two benefits I see with this noisy hub are 1) Announcing my arrival to distracted pedestrians crossing the road, sometimes without looking, and 2) Freewheeling me, sometimes when I can. My compatriots who put in a lot of effort deduce that I play it cool (ah ah)

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

Pack the pawls with grease and the noise goes away

[@brobaiq]

Hyper no doubt +1

[@ArteUltra1195]

Could you explain why?

[@acethetics7399]

Can you do a review on princeton carbon works?

[@davidarthur]

I can try

[@PedroPrego]

I wonder if the Chinese made components reviews gives you higher views (feedback) than regular reviews.

[@jasboehlke]

Quiet, quiet, quiet. 303s for me.

[@zmaxboost1]

The Hypers look like the Hunt 50UD wheels

[@alexwipe]

Can you buy a 38 front and 65 rear?

[@yonglingng5640]

Not possible I'm afraid.

[@IvanMalechko]

What next? Is Winspace gonna pay GCN and Cycling tips as well

[@davidarthur]

This wasn’t paid

[@HardiKhu]

Finally hypers

[@tattedup7031]

Love my new Zipp 303s

[@Buansteven]

What bottle cage are you using?

[@davidarthur]

It's this Silca bottle cage bit.ly/3y00AFm