Winspace T1500 Long Term Review - A Softer Approach

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks again to the folks at Winspace. A little humor goes a long way.

[@zypang1447]

This is the best bike frame review I have ever seen. Great video!

[@PatrickLino]

Hahaha thanks for watching!

[@danieltull3622]

This video review is so much more dynamic and engaging. I mean ill watch you anytime im on the toilet, but you really stepped up. 10/10 would poop and watch your vids again.

[@PatrickLino]

Best compliment I’ve ever received

[@roadfert]

Definitely Poop worthy! Hell, I’m even using my Squatty Potty while watching this which means I’m settled in for the long haul. 😂

[@NeutralGenericUser]

bro, i love you! Your jokes and delivery are chef’s kiss 😂 Toronto isn’t quite as flat as Chicago but it’s similar, so I use similar gearing. I had my T1500 frame for 2 years and it gave me a ton of issues due to slipping steerer. They exchanged the fork under warranty, but that didn’t resolve my issues. The D steerer is cursed imo. Otherwise, I love this frame. I was so happy to see that the new T1550 has a round steerer! Call me an idiot, but I just ordered it and I plan on moving all the parts from my T1500 to the T1550. Hopefully no more having to retighten the steerer every 100km!

[@PatrickLino]

I know the new T1550 is only a marginal update...but I actually wanna do the same myself haha. And swap the frame for electronic shifting.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

@@PatrickLino Yessss! I’d love to see your videos when you make this move!

[@TheChindoboi]

Building a windspace slc 2.0 and I am very impressed with the quality of the frame. Customer service has been fantastic as well so I would also highly recommend as a viable alternative to the big brands

[@PatrickLino]

Great to hear folks still building up the SLC! Thanks for watching.

[@10flyingdutchman]

Your opening had me rolling. Love your approach to cycling! Come around the lake and ride Michigan!

[@PatrickLino]

I plan to be back in Sleeping Bear next summer!

[@jedkoh]

Man I love such review style, keep up the good work!

[@PatrickLino]

Haha thanks for watching

[@karlnorberg7768]

Haha! Love the review and the channel. I have the Winspace Hyper 50 and love them on my CAAD12. I actually ALMOST ordered the T1500 but ended up ordering the Seka Exceed RDC. Both are really great frames. Also Winspace told me they are launching an updated T1500 that is lighter with new paint jobs in december. Also, I'm aiming for 54/40 chain rings. Will use 54-11? Probably not 🙂

[@PatrickLino]

Big boy crankset!

[@SherazChoudhary]

LOL, awesome!!! I get your humor and 100% agree. I love my Winspace SLC Rim and 38mm Hypers. I am in Boston and the crap roads require some extra compliance! I have the Kanazawa paint job which looks great close up but I do really love the turbulent blue of the T1500. I bike alone mostly and can avoid the social pressure of branding. The bike only needs to impress me and it does that in spades. Though, I also love my 2001 Cannondale R4000si (highly modified) nearly as much! Keep up the candid commentary! 🤣

[@PatrickLino]

Man I would love an SLC frameset. While aero bikes make the most sense where I live, there is something to be said about having a super lightweight climbing bike for my hilly adventures.

[@MauriSky2437]

Actually, I love pounding on guys with more expensive bikes in group rides with my 2017 CAAD Optimo and my cheaper Fuji SL-A Limited. I don't bother using my CAAD12. Fitness is key!

[@SherazChoudhary]

@@MauriSky2437 Yup, for us mere mortals it's mostly the engine and the conditions that determine speed. Also, enjoyment comes down to comfort and handling. My 20 year old CAAD6 R4000si is so much fun and not any slower for my riding style. Its all about being out and having fun 😊.

[@swites]

Recently a team rode these at the NZ tour of Southland and won a stage so can't be too slow!

[@p504504]

I LOVED this review. The commentary at the beginning is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@PatrickLino]

🤣thanks for watching

[@AlistairLattimore]

Comedy gold, nice work mate !

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@ff2e]

Loving the regular bike reviews =

[@PatrickLino]

His latest Nissan Altima review was so freakin hilarious I was immediately inspired.

[@ff2e]

@@PatrickLino I love it. I think you could pull this RCR style video off with a few bikes with known rider types like the SL7, F12, S5

[@PatrickLino]

@@ff2e I love the way you think...

[@1sigmabikes]

Hi, I'm just an extremely cheap, rec cyclist here. I didn't make it to the gravel part of the video. Had to see GCNs "Will a tophat and monocle make you more aero" video. Dude, that was the most. random. video. ever. Loved it. 😆 Totally cut the boredom of a Z2 ride on the trainer this morning. PS. Anyone ever tell you you read gud?

[@PatrickLino]

Reading gud is the key to life success.

[@sebbelito2975]

Alfa male slamming that stem. God I love you! Best video in a long time. Never gonna buy a T1500 but damn this video was fire!!!!!!!! gold entertainment

[@PatrickLino]

hahaha thanks for watching bruh

[@geoffreybomber]

Great review. For me, the UCI certification is a plus. It’s another example that they care about their brand recognition, which speaks to QC and quality. Makes no sense to invest in your brand only to put out ass-quality and have word-of-mouth absolutely negate that investment. Ordered a Yoeleo R12 following this logic.

[@PatrickLino]

Certainly agree with you there. And I should have a Yoeleo R12 for review sometime this winter.

[@galenkehler]

100% agree, ultimately the UCI approval doesn't mean anything to the average cyclist, but it's one of those things that you have to invest significant effort to get. Good take IMO

[@PatrickLino]

@Bernie Sanders Bernie for pres!

[@daviddang82]

@@berniesanders8344what about uci approved wheels?

[@edic2619]

Thankd for the video.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@brianblackie9434]

I just took delivery of the new 1550 Winspace and can confirm that long and stiff is the way to go! I will say whole-heartedly that it's a thing of beautiful to ride, but in saying that, the 501 groupset has a character of its own... e..g. clicking sounds on certain gears and some automatic gear changes. Will try and figure out what's going but just hoping it sorts itself out.....

[@PatrickLino]

501 groupset?

[@janeblogs324]

5:23 so much drag in these dub/ hollow tech style bbs. I just installed an square taper rpm BB with FSA bearings, I got 11 full crank rotations with 1 flick of the cranks. My hollow techs struggle to get 5 revolutions with minimal preload

[@PatrickLino]

I gotta look into those…

[@sbccbc7471]

If you run a one-piece BB, your crankset can spin much more smoothly, even if you're on steel bearings. Perfect bearing angular alignment is the key to this and since you're familiar with cartridge-type BBs, I think you would've understood. The most recent one-piece BB I installed is a BBInfinite BB86 for SRAM DUB with their Ceramitech bearings. After less than 1,000 km, it can easily spin 10 revolutions without having to push the crankarm hard to spin it. Even with steel bearings, I believe it can come reasonably close.

[@PatrickLino]

@@sbccbc7471 send me a link to your recommendations for BBs. I’m already planning my next build

[@furioustacos]

Every time you post about this bike it makes me want one more. Damn it!

[@PatrickLino]

Well that means you understand your assignment...

[@furioustacos]

@@PatrickLino lol. I live in Chicago like you. Maybe I'll join one of your group rides if it ever warms up again? Would love to see one in the flesh.

[@paulmorrison30]

Definitely my favourite KZbinr 🌶🔥🔥🔥🔥😂

[@PatrickLino]

Should I keep the same format? 🤣🤣

[@paulmorrison30]

@@PatrickLino Hell Yeah Brah 👊🏾🤣

[@GrouEEf]

Patty, that was an amazing video again! Thank you! Loved the jokes. 🙌😁🤷‍♂️

[@PatrickLino]

Ayyye thanks for swinging by GrouEEf as always

[@bobbyt7444]

Love your channel, keep up the great work!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Bobby!

[@whitebeardcycles]

I'm genuinely worried you've lost the plot after all these videos. A clear and concise rant😁😄

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@whitebeardcycles]

@@PatrickLino catch up soon

[@Flyboard12345]

Love ur vids man! Keep it up 👍

[@PatrickLino]

Thank youuuu!

[@DaveCM]

LOL! For some reason you, "sometimes black people read good" comment cracked me up. Maybe because I work for Duke University Physics Department. Specifically in Nuclear Physics. We have a couple of black professors and researchers as well as PhD students that are black. They are just insanely smart. (I just have a degree in Photonics and a background in engineering. I am basically a dumber Howard.)

[@PatrickLino]

I wish I was a dumber Howard, otherwise I wouldn't be making cycling videos for pennies 🤣

[@DaveCM]

@@PatrickLino 🤣🤣🤣

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

I actually found a T1500 in this color and my size, but I may wait until next year for the Glacier White color to be in stock again. Decisions decisions.

[@PatrickLino]

I would be curious if Winspace offers an updated T1500 including new colors in the near future.

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

@@PatrickLino Looks like they just raised the price of this frame by $100 :(

[@PatrickLino]

@@RadiantEclipseNomad really?? 😭😭

[@tomasvelez260]

@Patrick Lino I built mine with ultegra di2 12 speed, hunt wheels, fizik saddle for less than 5k. Never been happier with a bike. I have owned 18 + bikes in 8 years

[@PatrickLino]

Di2 12 speed? Big baller!

[@tomasvelez260]

@@PatrickLino 🤣 . Just send you the pic in Instagram 👌🏼

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

Which Di2 battery mount did you use to install it on the T1500 seatpost?

[@PatrickLino]

@@RadiantEclipseNomad Mecahnical shifting

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

@@PatrickLino I asked Winspace and the frame actually comes with a clamp that goes in the seatpost for the Di2 Battery.

[@MauriSky2437]

Btw, it has always been customary to criticize Asian manufacturing quality. I am old enough to recall Honda and Toyota bashing of the 1980s and 1990s. Chinese manufacturing is enjoying the same hatred. Thank you for the videos and candid takes.

[@PatrickLino]

As a person who’s driven a Civic, Camry, and TSX…I totally get your perspective.

[@kristiaandoms2822]

Good morning from Spain. Perhaps you can help. I need a fork for my Winspace T1500 disc. Winspace no longer produce the forks nor do they keep stock. Dealers I contacted have no stock eather. Do you know if I can get an aftermarket fork? Many thanks in advance.

[@reubenabela3063]

7:56 Yo dude you ain't pushing that frame to its limit, you're pushing it to YOUR limit xD. cool video!

[@PatrickLino]

haha have a great weekend!

[@nikita_prilipkin]

Hi, Patrick, kudos for your videos.! I have 1 question about t1500/t1550 frame - how do you think is there enough space between left crankarm and chainstay in order to install crankarm with powermeter? Thank you!

[@PatrickLino]

hi there, Yup it should fit 👍🏾

[@adrianetan9318]

Good job on the review .. can I ask what’s ur height .. planning to get one on XL I am 183 cm tall

[@PatrickLino]

I’m 6 feet tall. Thanks for watching! Also use my code “Patty10” for 10% off your purchase 💪🏾

[@ariffau]

Now, this is a review!

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣

[@JoshMarrah]

lol, so I know this is 2 years old, but gotta dig someone makin videos in Chi-Town!

[@PatrickLino]

Haha I appreciate it bruh #chitown

[@Dustydayzz]

hey patty i have questions and concerns ...what frame size should i get? my height is 6ft 🤣🤣

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣 golden!

[@spartanbike2260]

how did you get the frame with that sweet paint job. custom?

[@PatrickLino]

It's a new color option for 2022!

[@nicxson8101]

Hey Patrick, have you tried running the pirelli p zero? just wondering if they are as good as the gp5000. thanks

[@PatrickLino]

I have not tried Pirelli P zeros. Sorry

[@sbccbc7471]

One of my customers made the switch from GP5000 to P-Zero Road and says he likes the increased grip from them after having ridden his friend's bike which were equipped with them.

[@PatrickLino]

I only run GP5000s on all my road bikes. Love the puncture protection and with latex tubes they’re fine enough to race with

[@nicxson8101]

@@sbccbc7471 Thanks for the info brother

[@nicxson8101]

@@PatrickLino Thanks patrick. fire vid as always

[@pinoyxbox]

Oh man that paint job is 🔥🔥🔥 Was about to get the t1500 but no stocks on my local suppliers. I needed a bike asap so i just settled o. The elves falath pro disc. Will get maybe an SLC or get another aero frame with this t1500 paintjob lol 😂

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣

[@onacoffeeride]

T1500, probably my next.

[@PatrickLino]

DO IT

[@furioustacos]

How tall are you? I saw that this is a size Large, and I'm debating between a Large and Extra Large. I'm 6'1" for what it's worth. What would you recommend? I ride a size 56 comfortably on most bikes...

[@PatrickLino]

@@furioustacos 6 feet tall. Always good practice to compare the geometry chart to your current bike 👍🏾

[@olegkochetkov5172]

Hi Patrick, do you know, will FSA 69 work out with T1500 frame? FSA N69 implies 52mm bearing, however, the headtube has an integrated 42mm bearing. Will it work with the conversion ring that converts both diameters ?

[@PatrickLino]

All you really need from the FSA 69 system is the metal C-ring and the headset cover to route the cables. The inner diameter of the bearing should be a universal width, so you should be to use the supplied Winspace bearings.

[@olegkochetkov5172]

@@PatrickLino Many thanks.

[@donwinston]

I'm disappointed the cables are not fully integrated.

[@PatrickLino]

Gotta go full electric!

[@Bushi0001]

Are you facing any issues like creaking in the bottom bracket now after all this time ?

[@PatrickLino]

Nope not at all. Just replacement the BB after 6000 miles

[@samster1598]

Still my favorite bike review yt video … the sneaky humor had me rofl 🤣 😅

[@PatrickLino]

I gotta work on not being so cringe haha.

[@grupettopeter2340]

I want the same bottom bracket in my T1500. Can you provide me the specific type you have in your T1500. K.r. Peter

[@PatrickLino]

Kogel Bearings - DUB to BB86 👍🏾

[@husnainanwar514]

This is an expensive option for a BB, do we an alternate at a bit reasonable price which works the same.

[@alexeysoroka8349]

Hey Patrick. I have 2022 allez sprint. How is it in comparison to winspace? Is it worth getting that over allez?

[@PatrickLino]

I would not sell the Allez Sprint just for the T1500. Especially if you need 32c tire clearance. Can’t go wrong with either frame 👍🏾

[@ilanpi]

A slammed stem is an indication that your frame does not fit you. The point is that a slammed stem does not include a margin for adjustment.

[@PatrickLino]

There is a 10mm space above the stem. A margin for adjustment ❤️

[@dicconhill5593]

Does 3000k count as 'long term'? About 1 or 2 months riding. What I do like is the paint job. I have used Chinese cabon disc wheel for 6 years, no concern also a full carbon saddle 69g 20 quid and no issues with that. Full bike, I don't know.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching 👍🏾

[@LTBlightthebeam]

Niceee

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching Daniel!

[@nickguebhard3402]

Cant fault my T1500... except for the feeling of guilt on rides with friends when everyone can see that I'm not having to work quite as hard as them in certain situations because the bike is slippery as.

[@PatrickLino]

Haha they just jealous!

[@jleau89]

Hilarious intro narration ! :))

[@PatrickLino]

Haha thanks for watching 🤣

[@universe-juice]

Damn right. You should run the cables externally cause f#$k em. Love this video. Watch it alot. Been catching up on your channel. Your awesome!!!! RUN FOR OFFICE

[@PatrickLino]

As long as your my Vice-pres! Thanks for watching 💪🏾💪🏾

[@universe-juice]

@@PatrickLino done. 1st new law, quality bikes will be accessible both financially and physically to everyone. 2nd new law, all bike brands must do proper quality control on there products. I'll think of some more later maybe

[@carlosalmanzar2775]

Hilarious 😂

[@PhiyackYuh]

Would you recommend the gravel frame they have? Thanks.

[@PatrickLino]

I have not ridden it, so I can’t comment.

[@bugabutu]

Is the T1500 your best performing bike so far?

[@PatrickLino]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "best performing"?

[@bugabutu]

@@PatrickLino You have several bike builds. Is this particular bike, the one you reach for the most? Is it "the bike" or just a bike that's good for the money?

[@PatrickLino]

@@bugabutu hehehe this question is answered at the end of the video 😃

[@bugabutu]

@@PatrickLino I came before I could make it to the end of the video. I already knew the ending

[@PatrickLino]

@@bugabutu As an entire setup and price, the T1500 is hard to beat.

[@galenkehler]

Still the best paint job out there!

[@PatrickLino]

Ask me what size frame you should purchase!

[@galenkehler]

Haha, based on the progression, I'd need an XXXL

[@PatrickLino]

@@galenkehler hahahaha

[@galenkehler]

@@PatrickLino my current 2 bikes, that fit and ride perfectly for me, are 437mm and 440mm reach, with 110 and 100mm stems. Never going back to kid size bikes again 😁

[@PatrickLino]

@@galenkehler Mans out here with Scottie Pippen arms!

[@scare1024]

What saddle height do you have here? I’m struggling to find information if the size L can take my saddle height of 78 cm or if I need to one-size up.

[@PatrickLino]

78.5

[@scare1024]

@@PatrickLino thanks for the reply Patrick. Should fit nicely for me

[@tonyg3091]

Judging by the website they do not offer this colourway anymore. That is a HUGE shame.

[@PatrickLino]

Say whaaaaat!? It's out of stock?

[@tonyg3091]

@@PatrickLino I don’t see it as an option at all, dunno it is only temporary.

[@donwinston]

You know the word "antithesis"! I'm not a weird nerd after all.

[@pierrex3226]

Reading books and knowing words isn't supposed to be weird. Long live the knowing of words.

[@PatrickLino]

@@pierrex3226 Sorry very true. And it’s a shame really.

[@je_suis_le_vent]

This settles it for me dawg. T1500 gang 2023.

[@PatrickLino]

Code “Patty10” gets you 10% off 👌🏾

[@telostia]

you should try elves, seraph, twitter or carrowter bike frames so see how they fair against this 😁. Winspace just isn't cheap enough for most of us haha.(blame inflation...)

[@PatrickLino]

Maybe the new Falath Evo????

[@telostia]

@@PatrickLino yeh that evo is definitely a great contender. What's so great about it, is that the top tube extends to the stem making it a looker and definitely will turn heads making people wonder what bike you're riding 😁😁😁

[@CycoWarriorx]

“… bribing the USA Cycling mafia…” #micdrop

[@PatrickLino]

GOT 'EM!

[@CycoWarriorx]

@@PatrickLino Wear a BP vest and hire security… 😆

[@PatrickLino]

@@CycoWarriorx If they come for me and I'm no longer around....you can have my bike! 🤣

[@CycoWarriorx]

@@PatrickLino 🤣🤣🤣🤣 throw in the album collection… 😆😆😆😆

[@PatrickLino]

@@CycoWarriorx Man now you BUGGIN.

[@Flyboard12345]

7:28 lol 😂

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MarcraM82]

So heavy!!

[@PatrickLino]

It’s an aero frame though

[@connerburton2123]

Sell me this bike 😬

[@PatrickLino]

Name your priceeeeeeeee

[@dligginz]

Keep my rage name out cha mouth.

[@PatrickLino]

What’s to ya boyyyyyy?

[@dligginz]

@@PatrickLino 😂😂

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Trump 2024 👍

[@ronm9357]

Well, Black people do read _well_ 😅

[@PatrickLino]

That’s the joke my friend LoL

[@ronm9357]

@@PatrickLino 😅

[@ronm9357]

BTW, you answered my number one concern. Quality/safety. I don't want to be concerned with bombing down a hill at 50mph only to have the steerer tube snap. I've never been worried about buying a name brand frame. I had an aluminum Sampson (frame builder out of Colorado) I got in 2002, and it was as good if not better than my 90s Italian Scapin. Great and helpful review.