I Stole my GF X-SMALL Bike For a BIG RIDE! Winspace T1500

[@RudiDwiHartanto]

good topic to tackle. Im downsizing from M to S for my next bike as well, interesting point about lower and longer stem. A lot of flexibility workout and core workout and its fine. I really enjoy the video. Keep it up

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you man!! glad you enjoyed

[@stephen4347]

Nice video about bike sizes. I will go down on my next bike since I am in between sizes. Less weight too and aero benefits. I can't wait for these Lun wheelset to arrive to put on my frame.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yaaa man!! OHH you'll love them!!!

[@nicknick194]

The downside to going smaller is you often end up with a slower handling bike due to slack head angles. I am 5ft7 and finally found a size small bike with a 59mm trail! Kinda wish I’d got XS for more seatpost exposed but the handling would be slower 😕

[@CharlesOuimet]

Isn't a smaller bike has smaller wheelbase, so then must be more reactive to handling?

[@nicknick194]

@@CharlesOuimet yeah I see what you mean, but you get wheel flop etc though with slack head angles and high trail figures. I have a 48cm Colnago C60 too that has lazy handling. Small BMC’s are even worse!

[@nicknick194]

What difference did you notice?

[@leflate]

This is changing! The new geometries now have more consistent trails across sizes, look at the new supersix evo: 58mm trail across all sizes except for the smallest size (44cm)! Winspace aren’t there yet though.

[@Gabrielle4870]

@@nicknick194 any chance you have linger stem or wider bars or set the handlebar higher? Lots of things can make it more "sluggish"

[@ericracette9716]

Dude your bike is the right size just get a longer stem like 110 to 120 with a 7 degree down angle to get you tucked with 38cm bars the one piece handle bars may look cool be very impractical and most of the time heavier than a good bar and stem combo. Also try mooving your saddle all the way back with a tilt of 3 degree to start 9 degree is uci limit to tilt your pelvis downwards to allow you to get more earo.

[@CharlesOuimet]

This XS bike is an exageration, but I think I will go for the small instead of medium. My saddle is way too forward at the moment!

[@ericracette9716]

@@CharlesOuimet try mooving your saddle back and putting 3 degree tilt on it.

[@mickchaganis6607]

The friend that introduced me to road cycling a couple of years ago has an XS frame, he says the one problem he has in on slow speed turns his foot catches the front wheel.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes that can be an issue! Can cause some silly accident ahah

[@mickchaganis6607]

@@CharlesOuimet yeh I have a bike you probably never heard of, 'Carless' it was custom built in the 80s for a local time trial legend 'Alan Roberts' his team mate Dave Hinde is probably more well known and now builds custom carbon bikes, anyway I have resto moded it. Although it is a large frame, the head angle is silly steep so the wheelbase is really short, I almost fell off riding around the car park when I was doing a slow speed turn after signing on for my first time trial a couple of month ago...... How embarrassing would that have been 😂😂😂

[@8eodorosk]

I also went one size smaller on my giant propel. I was advised to do so by my mechanic. And GOSH he was right. the aero gains....

[@8eodorosk]

@UCeLKvSf_YH6xDyxuRwhW76g in an extreme aero position, there is a saying that i learnt like 2 days ago. "if you want to be comfortable you have to go fast". There was one guy that had reported numbness in his hands, he displayed his sitting position, and it was absolutely fine. Then there was this guy that said this phrase i mentioned in the beginning. If you are too lean forward you put more pressure to the hands, lower back gentlemen's soft area etc. And with my experience i can confirm that. This is why there are so many different geometries for the bikes. If you want to go longer and easier for more time you should go fora "coast to coast" bike. If you want to go fast, go for an aero bike with aggressive riding style. For example i ride a giant propel with a SQlab 612 r saddle, i picked this saddle for this position and i can ride 3 hours without any issues or pain. I think i helped you some how.. If you still have questions feel free to as. But you need to work of that position to feel comfortable, stretches training rides etc

[@CharlesOuimet]

thanks for sharing man!!! Super interresting

[@8eodorosk]

@@CharlesOuimet any time. Besides it is all trial and error till you find what suits you best....

[@willowwatts]

How did the LUN wheels perform.. Planning to upgrade my stock alloy rims with these for the summer... Looking forward to your long term review as well Charles..

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man! They were great, I can definitely feel a ''downgrade'' from the HYPERs, a bit more heavy, a bit less ''snappy'' when jumping on the sprint. But nonetheless I was surprised with how smooth and fast they were! Should have the full review in maybe a month or so!

[@Eirikkinserdal]

I know you are on felt now, but how is the sizing on winspace? Im looking at a size large slc 2.0, to swap components over from a 56 BMC. The reach is the same but the stack is 15mm lower and the effective toptube is 550mm on the slc 🤔

[@CharlesOuimet]

Great choice!! I have to say im not familiar with BMC sizing, I'd put size charts side-by-side and compare but looks like you've done it already!! I was riding a M winspace with 100mm stem and now Small FELT with 110mm stem. I'm 168cm, 5'6''!!

[@Eirikkinserdal]

Yeah the reach is the same as a standard 56 bike but the effective toptube is 10mm shorter and thw stack is 15mm lower 😅

[@brycycles7731]

Did you cut off the seatpost on the xs small bike? Or was that stock? Thanks!

[@CharlesOuimet]

We had to cut it to accomodate my 5'0'' girlfriend!

[@brycycles7731]

@@CharlesOuimet thanks!! I just ordered a XS sized bike, i’m 5’5. Got the 40mm and 125mm stem hopefully it works out!

[@fredcouture1158]

essayer de vous drafter pour le vent Comme avec Caleb Ewan est toujours en arrière de DeGendt et pas inverse !

[@CharlesOuimet]

exact :p

[@averagerider92]

How much torque did you use for the seat post to frame?

[@CharlesOuimet]

HUmmm I dont recall exactly

[@gordonanderson5512]

Hey Charles. Loving the channel! So refreshing to find someone who's not all about $10k bikes!!! Keep telling it like it is! 👍

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you so much man!!

[@stravadacreson6471]

Hi charles..nice to see your videos..i wanna ask u something..why there are winspace bike that have no ultra air writtings on the frame out there? Is it different from your winspace bike?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey! Same frame, they just removed it for new paintjob

[@andrewww6334]

Can u make video about budget cycling glasses ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

I'll keep in mind!

[@fahedabourshaid8072]

Hi Charles 👋 Thanks for the great videos man. I am going for the T1500 and I am a 169 cm. So what size you recommend for me 🙏🏻

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey! Thats awesome!! I'm 170cm and I got the Medium with 105x40 integrated stem/bar

[@fahedabourshaid8072]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks for the quick replay Charles. Do you think the S will be too small for 170cm or M is just the better option 🙏🏻

[@nestorlcotto1763]

How do you feel the bike for climbing.. It is good for climbing? I'm considering buying one. I normally use a 52 size. Any recommendations?

[@CharlesOuimet]

I've done a full everest on that bike (see my video about it) sooooo works well ;) I was also size 52 in Canondale and Garneau, (I'm 5'6) and got the Winspace Medium 470cm seatpost

[@jaaan.20]

Charles, I don’t know. It seems that you are sitting a little bit low from a bike fit perspective. So you maybe struggling with your knees or hamstrings and producing more lactate than necessary.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yeah on that ride with the XS it definitely was too low! But usually on my M winspace I'm perfect 😁

[@eyap2180]

How tall are you?

[@CharlesOuimet]

5'6!

[@卡臣-c2f]

@@CharlesOuimet Wow you looks much taller in the video, I thought you were 6 feet. I'm 5'6 too.

[@AMWChannel]

@@CharlesOuimet u should choose S size bike 😅😅😅

[@seanfitzgerald7844]

Great video

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!

[@gabriellefg]

Your GF is so funny 😏😅

[@CharlesOuimet]

The most funny ever 😍😘

[@1Larriva]

I would never let someone mess with my fit. Not even my wife!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahahahah my GF sont have a choice 😜

[@calebd4669]

Is the song in the beginning arcade romance?

[@CharlesOuimet]

HUmm I dont know it's from the platform Epidemic Sound hehe

[@calebd4669]

@@CharlesOuimet Ooh thanks

[@aldrinclementina4297]

Great video bro. Does your friend also uses a Winspace bike?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!! No he has a specialized allez sprint

[@aldrinclementina4297]

@@CharlesOuimet How tall are you man in meters please.. lol. I'm 1.73. I wonder which frame will fit me better and with which stem length. I ride a Bianchi 928L 55cm with 80mm stem. I also ride a Concorde Mistral 340 ( Backup bike) which is 56cm with 80mm stem. Thanks in advance

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@aldrinclementina4297 Hey man! I'm 170cm and my T1500 is a Medium (470mm seatpost) with 100m stem, fully slammed Fits perfect for me!

[@Alan_Hans__]

I'm watching videos way out of sequence and I just watched the video where you changed the whole cockpit of your GF's bike. Gabrielle seems to get into a highly aero position on her bike effortlessly with her back quite flat and her forearms entirely horizontal.

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahah she does!

[@aronmidn]

Does Tristan have a spin-off channel yet? ;P

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahahah he should !!

[@mishiaki73]

Bont code doesnt work.

[@CharlesOuimet]

It unfortunately got on pause ;( some people leaked it on coupon site... we're working on a alternative, stay tuned!

[@mg6535]

Josh was out of words...😧

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahaha he worked too hard!

[@leflate]

Really not a huge difference. 1.2 cm in reach and 1.2 cm in stack. You could get the same by slamming your medium or getting an ultra negative stem.

[@CharlesOuimet]

But the tiny bike looks so much faster :D

[@leflate]

@@CharlesOuimet that’s personal I guess, I always find 54cm looks the best proportions wise. It always looks weird when the rear wheel is higher than the top tube. And the trail is longer so the smaller bike is a bit more sluggish.

[@elijahkwon422]

Are the Winspace bars 36cm? Last I checked the smallest they made was 38

[@CharlesOuimet]

My mistake, her's are 38 and mine are 40 :) well spotted!

[@benjaminwolf9801]

I know the pain. I am 180cm and my wife is 149cm haha

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahaha yes!!

[@jaspreetsidhu5708]

Wow tiny people. I feel like a monster compared to you ftw at 193 cm.

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahahahah yes I'm small xD

[@hishmithvvardhan5809]

nice topic and thubnail

[@CharlesOuimet]

thanks buddy!!

[@TristanTaillon]

I found my next bike's frame size😏

[@CharlesOuimet]

YES :D

[@CharlesOuimet]

XXS

[@TristanTaillon]

Can we get xxxxxxsmall?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@TristanTaillon juste trois X pour toi ;) ;) ;)

[@TristanTaillon]

Noice ;)))

[@hishmithvvardhan5809]

first btw

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahaha :p