Reynor gets CANNON RUSHED! StarCraft 2 Tournament Finals

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19 күн бұрын

StarCraft 2 Tournament - Reynor vs Classic - Protoss vs Zerg - WTL SC2 Cup Finals - Classic finely curated Protoss cheese puts Reynor's Zerg to the test in this epic finals!
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@zombi3907
@zombi3907 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing all this. I really enjoy your casting and beginners guides. I played the original warcraft, starcraft, and wow games (yeah I am old :). I played SC2 for a little bit but none of my friends play games anymore, and your casting has brought me back into the fold. I am currently retraining my brain and hands on vs AI matches to get used to Hotkeys and movement patterns. Again, thanks for doing all this.
@patricerobert4191
@patricerobert4191 18 күн бұрын
I played all those too, welcome to the team :) I’m 50 and diamond 1v1 :) such a great game
@Qaos2
@Qaos2 18 күн бұрын
@@patricerobert4191 impressive, I can’t get past gold 😅
@Leo-pr7ly
@Leo-pr7ly 18 күн бұрын
​@Qaos2 how long you've been playing? Seems a Tempo issue, but when macro and micro becomes second nature, you'll get to diamon too. Reach ~100 APM and let's go.
@paulembleton1733
@paulembleton1733 17 күн бұрын
@@patricerobert4191 I used to be 50 - before SC2 was even released! At 65 I still play the occasional ladder game and claim to be the oldest player on the planet. Never been any good, best place was a brief period in platinum based mostly on proxies and rushes. Youngsters (I guess) would complain about about the cheese, some even accused me of cheating! Wow I must be better than I thought 😂
@kenhorn4327
@kenhorn4327 17 күн бұрын
I'm with you brother, age 63.5, I played all the Blizzard games. Nicknamed Kenablo, but SC2 is the only game I still play of Blizzard games. I'm not as good as I once was at SC2, but I'm a little too lazy to be pro gamer efficient, maybe low apm competitive. I love Winter's commentary, which has kept me interested
@joeygawl4346
@joeygawl4346 18 күн бұрын
2:20 DUDE I HAVENT LAUGHED THAT HARD IN A WHILE HAHAHA
@stalwart56k
@stalwart56k 16 күн бұрын
"Looking a little flacid" had me HOWLING. Please make this spine crawler a short or a highlight clip
@joeygawl4346
@joeygawl4346 16 күн бұрын
@@stalwart56k PLEASE haha. Winter just has a crazy way with words hes one of the best casters imo.
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine 18 күн бұрын
"It's a bit odd to ask of a tentacle-based creature, but will it fit?" 2 Minutes in, and I'm already dead, but at least I had a good life, and gave the video a like before I died!
@Sifu-intraining
@Sifu-intraining 18 күн бұрын
Beautiful play by Classic really impressed
@catbert7
@catbert7 18 күн бұрын
Not at 41:40 👀
@TowerSavant
@TowerSavant 17 күн бұрын
I love the additional stats. Keep it up my nerd.
@benismann
@benismann 18 күн бұрын
47:11 I love old memes. Honestly they just make it all feel so cozy... We know they're not quite on the modern level, but still kinda funny, even if for the wrong reasons.
@hexaquras9374
@hexaquras9374 17 күн бұрын
glaved adepts truly the blue-flame helbats of the protoss army (except if helbats are fast, can shoot farther, cost gas and can teleport)
@jaycewesterlo7100
@jaycewesterlo7100 17 күн бұрын
Love your casts mate, that last fight in game 4 was friggin cleeeean!
@zombi3907
@zombi3907 18 күн бұрын
the total dismissal of fixed air defense by even high level zerg baffles me. The amount of harass that is disabled by having two spores instead of none or one really seems worth it against an aggressive player
@drewbruggman
@drewbruggman 17 күн бұрын
Its because it's too expensive.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 17 күн бұрын
A lot of things seem worth it for lower league players.
@AuroraTheFirstLight
@AuroraTheFirstLight 17 күн бұрын
I wonder if building spire to get 4 or 6 corruptors is worth
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 17 күн бұрын
Total dismissal= a spore crawler in every mineral line in game one.
@jarlbeorn
@jarlbeorn 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for casting these winter. My old hands can’t play at better than a wood seven level, but I still enjoy watching the top level talents showcase what is possible
@destrik4115
@destrik4115 17 күн бұрын
Dont feel bad my young hands cant play much over wood 6
@russd1048
@russd1048 17 күн бұрын
Brenda to adepts in game 2: GET OFF MYYYY CREEEP! Protoss lore has it that the spirt of zeratul lives within Classic’s chin
@rul8734
@rul8734 18 күн бұрын
Thanx for make my day a little bit better
@ericmaniere
@ericmaniere 17 күн бұрын
Love the ODDS!!! I like those metrics to show how they stack up against each other...good idea. Thanks for making my day a little bit better everyday! Winter is coming!
@TysonDylan0
@TysonDylan0 17 күн бұрын
I would like to see Classic use the same strategy from game 1 against Dark
@normILL
@normILL 17 күн бұрын
Both the revelation and the shade are used so much for scouting, maybe that opening should be named after that. "Ah yes, the binocular opener"
@gilles22
@gilles22 17 күн бұрын
Thanks again for all those hour of pure exquisite entertainment ♥
@eamono
@eamono 17 күн бұрын
I love watching zest and classic play! Imo Protoss a bit gimmicky, but when piloted in such a confident straightforward manner it’s gorgeous!
@expatlifestyle2000
@expatlifestyle2000 18 күн бұрын
For the oracle and adept combo may I suggest the name..... The parasol. -a light umbrella used to give shade from the sun.
@PoH42069
@PoH42069 14 күн бұрын
Omg Classic plays Protoss so beautifully
@Vorophobe
@Vorophobe 17 күн бұрын
that was some incredible skill from Classic
@miza6
@miza6 16 күн бұрын
That force field work was epic
@hypersound1224
@hypersound1224 18 күн бұрын
Classic outpost, that is boss move
@christopherscott6383
@christopherscott6383 18 күн бұрын
Jimmy! Why does the Emperial march from Star Wars enter my mind when I read this title?
@WizardyDylan
@WizardyDylan 17 күн бұрын
really impressed w/ classic there
@catsmr
@catsmr 18 күн бұрын
Entertaining!
@yugonostalgia8961
@yugonostalgia8961 18 күн бұрын
27:30 Call it the Hero's Gambit? Not sure who originated it but it seems like her0's style
@Madcat2005
@Madcat2005 18 күн бұрын
is classic's build in game 2 the build that Harstem taught to Casually Explained maybe 3 years ago?
@bigstreetguns6619
@bigstreetguns6619 18 күн бұрын
Outclassiced!
@AnonJuggerbot
@AnonJuggerbot 17 күн бұрын
That last game by Classic was fucking immaculate
@justsaying2181
@justsaying2181 18 күн бұрын
How to easily defend the cannon rush: 0:39 as soon as you see the cannon go down, place 2 spine crawlers. You can always cancel one if need be. Reynor has the money for 2 spines. And it will guarantee your gold base is safe throughout the early game so you can spend more time on offense. Cost wise it's a huge net win, 300 for 2 spines, but you kill a pylon a cannon, and you keep your 300 mineral hatchery.
@blandragny9152
@blandragny9152 18 күн бұрын
Love Classic!
@quarantinezone2844
@quarantinezone2844 18 күн бұрын
2:20 I remember a Zerg Queen asked the same thing.
@cheeseandpickles4506
@cheeseandpickles4506 17 күн бұрын
This is what Starcraft is supposed to BE!! No gimmicky bullshit just pure skill and strategy battles! Game 2 best game of the year.
@prezzle208
@prezzle208 18 күн бұрын
Thats some peak protoss right there.
@arankoka
@arankoka 17 күн бұрын
hate it that even after a failed adept push toss has more workers than zerg, while zerg is more broke when 6minute-pushing. lairtech spines ignore shield would be a fair thing
@Resistor736
@Resistor736 17 күн бұрын
The statistics is highly aporeciated. Maybe there is no need to show it too often, but from time to time.
@general_armstrong
@general_armstrong 17 күн бұрын
statistics are just a probability. sometimes a champion like olivera comes out of nowhere and surprises everyone
@dunngyllite7883
@dunngyllite7883 18 күн бұрын
Brenda and Karen always argueing, but Lucille is the true MVP here.
@YuNherd
@YuNherd 18 күн бұрын
dont forget susan, is she the dumdum of winter's knitting group lore?
@x8axe8x
@x8axe8x 18 күн бұрын
That was quite a dunk in that second game
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy 17 күн бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen Adepts used as anything more than an early game gimmick, I'm lovin it.
@RazielDeTam
@RazielDeTam 17 күн бұрын
Winter and Jimmy are nice guys ❤
@gustavogodoy4019
@gustavogodoy4019 18 күн бұрын
no longer powered by tears
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy 17 күн бұрын
Love to see muh Toss winning.
@bothpinkysbroken
@bothpinkysbroken 17 күн бұрын
Nice
@Cryinginthewiderness
@Cryinginthewiderness 18 күн бұрын
Wow
@TheRecurrence
@TheRecurrence 2 күн бұрын
This caster is hilarious.
@youchuanwang1738
@youchuanwang1738 17 күн бұрын
Wow classic 21:53
@KingKongWorld
@KingKongWorld 18 күн бұрын
I love Cannon rush. LOL
@user-ji2he2ip2i
@user-ji2he2ip2i 17 күн бұрын
Good to see more excellent Protoss . Maybe Protoss are not as weak as people say after all.
@Handle35667
@Handle35667 16 күн бұрын
Protoss are only weak outside of Korea
@catbert7
@catbert7 18 күн бұрын
41:40: WtH was Classic thinking, attacking into a million Spores with Carriers??? And the other base was literally undefended!
@matthew4107
@matthew4107 15 күн бұрын
jimmy raising the cost of likes thinks we dont notice.
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 18 күн бұрын
What beats this adept immortal style? Mutas?
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 17 күн бұрын
No Reynor had a great comp, he just took too much damage from the initial Adept push, and the map is also not ideal.
@wot_iss9795
@wot_iss9795 18 күн бұрын
Brenda, my beloved
@cheeseandpickles4506
@cheeseandpickles4506 17 күн бұрын
And for his next trick he'll go beat Maru...
@kalin666
@kalin666 18 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the Macro Cannon
@proactivex
@proactivex 17 күн бұрын
that was so naughty
@locophat
@locophat 18 күн бұрын
Chintoss is a violation hahahaha
@locophat
@locophat 17 күн бұрын
I love my asian people (especially since I'm black so we get sooo many passes) Imagine if I was to say I was the one black protoss greats... and he said this about me, big lips verses hardly barely visible adepts, "I'm not sure if they can sneak that through." It's unfair. Well I guess by definition SC2 has always been a very low shade of skin game.
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy 17 күн бұрын
@@locophat I think it just means he has a peculiar-looking chin. Perhaps.
@bonar1211
@bonar1211 18 күн бұрын
Welcome to Korea boy
@KingKongWorld
@KingKongWorld 18 күн бұрын
He tought it would be easy where the others have failed...
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 18 күн бұрын
He’s popping up! Go Raynor!
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 18 күн бұрын
Spoiler Ahhhh good game classic
@maverikotonashi
@maverikotonashi 18 күн бұрын
I was looking for reynors armor upgrades the whole series
@kiwmyak
@kiwmyak 18 күн бұрын
Its almoust no impact in ZvP, since almoust all P units hits hard but slow. Its very common to go only attack or +1 melee and +1 range. +1 armor only viable in late game vs Carriers since the attack fast but hit not that hard.
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude 18 күн бұрын
@@kiwmyak (bronze player analytics right here)
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 17 күн бұрын
@@Hellafast2uDude As 4.6K MMR Zerg I can tell you he's definitely correct... what are you implying?
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude 17 күн бұрын
@@hivetech4903 cause all zerg units that has 90hp+ with armor can survive 1 hit more from stalkers, zealots (espesially, cause they has double attack), etc. And since "all P units hits hard but slow" its totally worth it, cause zerg can do another 2 attacks. Stalker with +1weapon kills Hydrolisk for 7 hits, with +1armor for 8.
@kiwmyak
@kiwmyak 17 күн бұрын
@@Hellafast2uDude I'am 4.3 zerg player. I learn alot watching and asking questions from good players. U can be delusionnal as much as u want
@dariusjavidan5609
@dariusjavidan5609 17 күн бұрын
Change of name to NeoClassic is needed. Awesome series.
@cathulionetharn5139
@cathulionetharn5139 18 күн бұрын
Thank You Om nom nom
@artimediasna759
@artimediasna759 5 күн бұрын
spoilers = r r r r r game 3 really goes to show why you just cant ever let zerg live to the midgame. Zerg is just so, so, so much stronger than protoss the longer the game goes on because they can remax so much faster. They can lose every battle while sending a 3rd of their army just to snipe your bases again and again until they remax for a 6th time and you cant remax for a 4th.
@DSzaks
@DSzaks 17 күн бұрын
Wow, don't think I've seen protoss win a tourny in over a year. Couldn't help but notice they were all won fairly early on in the matches. It's almost like protoss late game is trash or something. Very well played by classic. Those forcefields in game 4 just... mmwwaah
@Bluemeanie98
@Bluemeanie98 17 күн бұрын
Had no idea Classic is so with the shits
@Grond112358
@Grond112358 17 күн бұрын
I don't care what Reynor says; more PvP please.
@bawellwater
@bawellwater 17 күн бұрын
can you make some bronze league heros
@StarkzzI
@StarkzzI 17 күн бұрын
What happened with video quality 😢
@Handle35667
@Handle35667 16 күн бұрын
Reynor is going to have a good time in GSL. Bippitty Bop. Still a better Zerg than Serral tho.
@Hjortur95
@Hjortur95 17 күн бұрын
rocks should be nerfed to 0 armor down from 3
@slevinlaine
@slevinlaine 18 күн бұрын
Currently invading Korea, I LOVE IT HAHAHHAA.
@remeokits
@remeokits 15 күн бұрын
Calling it now skytoss is losstoss
@bacondub1241
@bacondub1241 18 күн бұрын
No views? Never been this early before...
@EternallyblueTV
@EternallyblueTV 17 күн бұрын
Cannon rush? Like and subscribe ezpz
@ezequieltellez9082
@ezequieltellez9082 18 күн бұрын
like
@drbunheada224
@drbunheada224 18 күн бұрын
first
@unitjax9507
@unitjax9507 18 күн бұрын
I dont understand why Zerg don't build anti-air! 2 queen's at a hatch aren't enough to deal with the constant harass
@kiwmyak
@kiwmyak 18 күн бұрын
Too expensive at time when oracles arrive. Zerg naturally behind on workers until like 40+ workers, building alot of spores and 3-30 makes it even worse, and usually 2-3 queens is enough to defend 1-2 oracles. But ye, I think if its 3, or twilight following we need spores more since queens always out of position dealing with adepts/prism. I think for averege gamer making spore for every base is fine, not much ppl can capitilize on saveng some drones. But they should.
@elgar7252
@elgar7252 18 күн бұрын
@@kiwmyak What he's saying is 1-2 Spores saves 3+ workers per spore at minimum by stopping the Oracles. And no, Zerg is usually ahead on workers in most scenarios bar a Roach+Ravager all in, and even then, sometimes they're ahead. As long as they're maintaining their injections and have their 3rd Hatch, it's very uncommon for Terran or Toss to be ahead on workers.
@kiwmyak
@kiwmyak 18 күн бұрын
srsly wtf Is it only for me looks like toss casually playing the game, and zerg swets his pants off just to have a chanse to hold? Isnt Reynor like second best zerg after Serral? Why it looks like zerg commits too much to defend and stay behind, but commiting less means death?
@yugonostalgia8961
@yugonostalgia8961 18 күн бұрын
Nah it's just Reynor got outplayed here, Classic brought a tailor-made build for him. Despite the rankings, Dark or Solar would've done better here imho
@KingOfNebbishes
@KingOfNebbishes 17 күн бұрын
Reynor may be second by points, but his recent play in events has been very uneven.
@Darkocean62
@Darkocean62 18 күн бұрын
More games with serral pls 🙂
@ArtemisShanks
@ArtemisShanks 18 күн бұрын
Every series seems conspicuously spoiled by the thumbnail.
@goseigentwitch3105
@goseigentwitch3105 13 күн бұрын
it would make so happy if you stopped doing your intro
@hartismall7268
@hartismall7268 16 күн бұрын
Reynor needs to retire. He got old and slow....
@willeatpants7691
@willeatpants7691 16 күн бұрын
Brenda got the protoss touch again!
@timolson9722
@timolson9722 17 күн бұрын
as m uch as i love mthios game i still find broodwar more fun
@jacobhammock3355
@jacobhammock3355 18 күн бұрын
Nice
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