Wiring A Home Theater Receiver vs Processor with Blue Jeans Cables XLR and Emotiva RMC-1L

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[@seldom_seen8713]

Very helpful video, Thanks alot.

[@kennyq45]

Thanks for explaining the differences. Subscribed!

[@BuildMontage]

Great video Kyle - well explained for beginners.

[@rojithstanly9125]

Excellent video mate

[@myhometheater7029]

Great video Kyle!!!

[@adrianb5858]

VERY WELL EXPLAINED AND TO THE POINT. 👍

[@sonicacoustics9176]

Awesome content! Learned a lot. :)

[@HulkCinema]

Great video Kyle 👍

[@mvsrpharma]

Thanks

[@dapitbull2009]

Nice job Kyle! Had to throw those chiefs on this one.😍

[@LifeofBliss]

Had to throw my chiefs some love!

[@Tential1]

Also mini dsp let's you add Dirac to your amp with pre outs given you have 7-8 channels of amplification (16 if you get 2)

[@SpecOfTech]

Get out of my brain, I was just thinking of doing one of these vids. Just like you beat me to the 24" subs, you beat me to this ;P. I find it a little chilly living in your shadow lol JK...great video man, cheers!

[@LifeofBliss]

😂 I'm not usually ahead of others on YT lol... idk, had some motivation recently to get some videos out! You should still make you video man, always nice to have different views and styles!

[@prohib8707]

😂

[@BuildMontage]

HAHA it's a great topic for a video. It's not a bad thing to make similar content - it feeds from one video and recommend eachother!

[@SpecOfTech]

@@BuildMontage haha, yeah you are absolutely right.

[@AmitKumar-ow8ck]

Which is best AV processor EMOTIA , MARANTZ or any other options

[@strchanelsukodono3808]

Good

[@TheoTsant]

Beautiful video does the prosecutor doing the 7.1 or whatever or it sends the same signal to all amplifiers?thank you

[@LifeofBliss]

The processor does all the surround decoding. Then it sends a specific signal to each channel that you connect to the correct terminal on the amp for the specific speaker. The amp just amplifies whatever signal it is fed. All the surround sound effects are done in the processor

[@thomascrenshaw3912]

Thank you for the video. In the process of upgrade my theater. Now just to figure out products. Please give me more info on the obs as far as order. Thanks. Love the vids.

[@LifeofBliss]

Thanks man.. What do you mean by obs?

[@thomascrenshaw3912]

Sorry about that I ment osb black speakers.

[@LifeofBliss]

Oh I gotcha. I'll have a review out in a few weeks on the speakers I got it 👍

[@thomascrenshaw3912]

Can't wait to see it thanks.

[@velocci6666]

Excellent video. Is there a way to calculate roughly how many watts are going to all 7 channels when you know how many watts an AVR has when 1 or 2 channels are driven?

[@LifeofBliss]

Not without testing. Music and movies are so dynamic anyways that its just quick spikes in wattage, but if several speakers are requiring that all at once, output will be lower. Most people say 50-60% of what's stated from what I've seen. Itll vary between products of course

[@sad_person7260]

Hello Sir Activity I Had 13lakhs For The Present - & I need 9.4.4 Klipsch Home theatre.... what can I use AVR OR PROCCESOR ! WHICH ONE IS MORE BETTER WILL U GIVE SOME INFO

[@savanpanchal451]

Hey love your simple reviews. I need your opinion. I am currently running 7.2.2 Atmos with Marantz Sr8012 avr and also have 5 channel Emotiva Gen 3, 5 channel amp. I am really interested in upgrading to separate processor. Looking at new Anthem Avm70 coming out that uses Arc room correction which is better than Audessy I heard. Also looking to either get another 5 channel Amp or upgrade my current to support 9 channel. Do you think there would be a upgrade in my sound system?

[@LifeofBliss]

I noticed a big increase in sq going from an avr to separates, even when using amps with my avr. Its costly, but noticeable upgrade

[@LifeofBliss]

Need some nice cables? Check out Blue Jeans Cable here! 🔥 bit.ly/BluejeansCables 🔥 You can find the Emotiva RMC-1L 16 Channel Processor here! bit.ly/RMC-1L My camera's auto focus went a little nuts during the video, sorry guys!

[@kack7130]

how do you connect receiever to processor to amp, I am still not getting this part

[@LifeofBliss]

It's either a receiver or a processor. You don't use both.

[@gary4593]

I have power amp plug into AV receiver would processor would sound better sound con pair to my AV receiver ? .

[@LifeofBliss]

Generally processors will have a better overall sound than a receiver

[@carloschavez1574]

I have a question… I own some EV amp speakers mostly used for Dj. Would I be able to run the wire with XLR directly to speakers since I don’t need a amp? The speakers already have a amp built in

[@LifeofBliss]

Sure can

[@Tential1]

One thing to note, processors are not necessarily better. Due to the economies of scale on receivers many brands have processors which cost more than the receiver version of that product. So you may be better off buying the bigger receiver (with pre outs) and just using it as a processor.

[@LifeofBliss]

Yea I used my yamaha receiver like that for a few years. The processors usually have better components in them though, so you'll get a bump in SQ. hence the higher cost. I will say, the sound is night and day after switching to the emotiva... more on that in an upcoming video

[@pixluxxbuiltthewave]

I feel like processors would work for PA system home theater, right?

[@LifeofBliss]

Yes they should work fine for pa speaker theaters

[@TheGregWallace]

Question.......What is the Main difference between a Preamp and a Processor and can I have both for one system or is that not possible and if so why would I want both for advantages and or disadvantages ?

[@synth505]

The preamp houses the processor and does everything an AVR does, just without the amplification for your speakers. You need separate amplifiers for that. Most preamps are also going to have higher fidelity DAC's than AVR's, so you will get better sound quality.

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[@nasaspacemanwho6711]

Thanks. Always wondered about separates. Quick question for you and the folks. Did I see this correctly. Only one connection (red) from the pre amp to one connection into the amplifier? I can see both white and red any reason the white channel is not being used?

[@LifeofBliss]

That was just a dual rca cable and I only hooked up 1 channel. You'll need as many RCA cables as you have channels that you want to hook up to an amp. If you only wanted the front 3 channels powered by an external amp, you'll need 3 RCA cables. 7 channels, seven cables, etc...

[@nasaspacemanwho6711]

@@LifeofBliss thanks dude. Stay awesome.

[@LifeofBliss]

You stay classy, Spaceman

[@saikatbose8370]

What about the subwoofer. Do u need a separate amplifier for a subwoofer too while using a processor as most subwoofers are active

[@LifeofBliss]

Just like a receiver, the sub signal is sent to an amp. That can either be a separate amp that then uses speaker wire to power the sub, or to a plate amp on an active subwoofer.

[@saikatbose8370]

@@LifeofBliss thanks

[@jamescarter1673]

Greetings. Where did u get your handlebars for your Victory and will they fit a CC. I know Im on the wrong video, but wanted to make sure u would see post. thx.

[@LifeofBliss]

Not sure, didn't change out the bars on either bike. I think those were the stock bars on the jackpot though, just changed the handles and mirrors

[@jamescarter1673]

@@LifeofBliss k thx.

[@Jcc411]

Question, as I am still learning about home audio. You say the XLR’s on the processor allow for a ‘cleaner’ signal as they are balanced and have a lower sound to noise ratio than the RCA’s present on the receiver. But the second half of the processor configuration (amplifier to speakers) is still using RCA. I work in networking, and a signal is only as strong as it’s weakest link allows it to be. So really I’m just asking because I’m interested in the science, but do the RCA cables going from speakers to amplifier not cause the same noise in your pathway that they would going into the receiver? And great video!

[@LifeofBliss]

The wiring from the amplifier to the speakers is actually speaker wire. A positive and negative run of copper, usually anywhere from 16 to 12 gauge in size. Thats what carries the high wattage signal to the speakers. Speaker cables can be prone to noise as well, so its important to keep low voltage lines (speaker wire, rca, xlr) away from high voltage lines (power cables from the wall to power equipment). But the signal before amplification carried by the rca and xlr cables is where a lot of noise can be introduced into the system. XLR is less susceptible to noise than RCA

[@Jcc411]

@@LifeofBliss I see. I missed that those were speaker wires. Thanks for the explanation. Subscribed.

[@peerguy]

Excellent comparison. Interesting when you said it was good that the processors have low signal to noise ratio. Shouldn’t the S/N be high so that the noise is low? Also THD level less than 1% was better to eliminate noise?

[@LifeofBliss]

You are correct, signal to noise ratio is better high. I meant there was less noise over the signal path, didn't come out correctly obviously... you want the total harmonic distortion lower for less distortion.

[@josealfredfernandes]

@@LifeofBliss How to connect apple tv 4k to it? How to connect TV with Dolby Atmos support to Emotiva RMC1? Is it by ARC HDMI?

[@LifeofBliss]

The apple TV would connect directly to the rmc-1l. If you were streaming through a TV interface without any sort of external box (like a roku or apple tv) then you'd use the HDMI ARC on the TV to the RMC-1L

[@josealfredfernandes]

@@LifeofBliss understood

[@josealfredfernandes]

@@LifeofBliss excuse me, is the Emotiva RMC-1 really a 28 channel pre pro? 13.5.10?

[@atk1da]

The processor was not shown to connect to the receiver to power the speakers. Can it?

[@LifeofBliss]

These are 2 separate things, a processor and a receiver. You don't hook one up to the other. The processor does everything the receiver does, it just can't power speakers by itself, hence needing an external amp.

[@atk1da]

@@LifeofBliss I am aware of this, which is why I mentioned the processor was not shown to connect to the receiver..aka an external amp. Can this or any processor of similar build connect to a receiver..aka an external amp? Or does it require the route that was demonstrated, a 3 channel amp or more for additional speakers? Should this be the case....totally not worth it. As a good 5.1 or 7.1 av receiver will easily get the job done.

[@LifeofBliss]

You're using receiver and external amp like they are the same thing, which they are not. The processor cannot connect to the receiver. The processor needs an external amp to power any speakers. Both the processor and receiver can connect to the external amp with these models shown. There are many advantages to a processor like I mentioned in the video, they're a higher end piece of equipment that will sound better, so it costs more money. They usually process more channels as well for larger systems.

[@Music-rv3ih]

Can a 5.1 av receiver upgrade into a 7.1 using a processor...?

[@everythingburrito1897]

I’m not sure but imma say no. The processer is just a computer and decoder basically so if you wanted 7.1 you could get a processor that can decode 7.1 audio and then you will need a way to power 7 speakers. But if you are looking to do 7.1 you could by some very budget friendly 7.1 amplifiers used I got mine on OfferUp for $35 because I scored an amazing deal. But processors are usually really expensive

[@Music-rv3ih]

@@everythingburrito1897 thanks ..

[@LifeofBliss]

A receiver and processor are 2 different things. You cannot upgrade a receiver into anything more than it is. You would have to replace it with a processor in your system. So the yamaha receiver i was using will be gone and the emotiva will takes its place

[@audiovideolover7628]

👍

[@rythemusicguy]

That yamaha receiver msrp is 2000. The Emotiva separates msrp is 5000. Are you telling me there is an audible difference to justify over double the price? I have the yamaha rxa-3070 and it sounds perfect.

[@LifeofBliss]

Perfect, until you hear something better 😉 theres always room for improvement. The RMC-1L msrp is $4000, so double the cost. It has dedicated DACs for each of its 16 channels, where the yamaha has 2 for the 11 channels it can process. Also the emotiva can process 16 channels, utilize Dirac Live, and is upgradeable in the future (hdmi 2.1 boards in progress for example). Theres a lot more than just the sound quality thats an upgrade. I haven't had the chance to tune everything yet and I can already hear better channel separation and voice clarity. It may not be worth double the cost (plus amplifier costs) to some people, but there is an audible difference. I'm interested to see how Dirac Live will impact it even more. BTW I love the yamaha 3070 as well, I don't plan on selling it. Theres just other options out there that are an improvement over it

[@rythemusicguy]

@@LifeofBliss I appreciate your reply. You make some good points. To be honest, I only have a 2 channel setup. I can't imagine ever needing 16 channels. By the way, I like your channel. I wish I knew how to work wood like you. Thanks for what you do!

[@LifeofBliss]

Appreciate it Ham!

[@atk1da]

I wonder what might happen if you were to open up any receiver and rip out the internal AMPLIER? any one? right the external or in this case an internal AMP which is separate from the receiving side ( receives radio transmission) or other input from low signal source dvd, aux input, or perhaps a tt if equipped with a phono pre amp. However, without an AMPLIFIER built in or separate, the sound is very weak and lacking detail, robustness, and most important loudness. at the 48 sec mark of this video is remarked at how similar the two devices are. Yamaha with amp and processor no amp. hmmm seems as you mentioned the processor needs an amp, say like a receiver with an AMP built in. since it cannot as you pointed out, colossal waste. Having more components in the signal path does not produce better sound.

[@LifeofBliss]

😂 ok man, you lost me at ripping out the amp. Good luck with all that...

[@atk1da]

@@LifeofBliss figured I would

[@LifeofBliss]

you are too dense to understand that both have similar functionalities, not to mention confusing a receiver with an external amplifier and wondering if you can connect it to a processor... just because you type something multiple times doesn't make it true bud. If processors were a waste and didn't remove noise in the signal path from separating the amp from the chassis.... no one would buy them. But please, tell me more about trying to remove your amp from your receiver...

[@curtchase3730]

Wow. That is what I call a "PRO" HT setup! No holds barred. Now, me? I'm not quite there yet, but wished there was a unit like a typical big box store type of "processor", like a surround receiver but w/o all the amps! Just the front end and line level outputs, but I guess the bean counters figure they wouldn't sell because 99% of people want that turn-key all in one unit. Because dedicated processors are so rare, they cost more than a "hi end" big box store all in one even the ones with all the line outs! Like car "radios", even though CD's are not the rage anymore, try to find a big selection of "mech-less" aka "no CD player" in dash car receivers! I don't get it.

[@LifeofBliss]

Thanks man! Yea processors definitely are a bit more money. You'd think the lack of any amplification would offset the cost of higher components (DACs) but who knows...

[@frostman9661]

Do you have any recommendations on processors that are more... middle of the road?? $4000 is out of my league unfortunately. Any good brands more in the $1000-$2500 range?

[@LifeofBliss]

Most processors are going to be a little more expensive than receivers will be. The cheapest 16 channel processor right now I think is the Emotiva XMC-2 and the Monoproce HTP-1, both around $3000. You can obviously grab a decent receiver that has preouts and use an external amp(s) for your speakers if you wanted an increase in sound quality. You can always use you amps down the road for when you upgrade to a processor as well. I really like Yamaha, but Marantz would probably be my second choice if you wanted to go the receiver route

[@frostman9661]

@@LifeofBliss I guess I better start saving my pennies! 😉 Thank you for the reply!

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[@LifeofBliss]

Thanks for the catch man, you are right

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[@LifeofBliss]

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[@LifeofBliss]

Thats hilarious... had no idea

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[@LifeofBliss]

Lol yea I think I'm going to be required to add him in from now on. This was a quick video I was working on the past few nights after work, so everyone was asleep... lesson learned. Wake the kid up at midnight 🤣