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[@seyeruoynepotsuj]

SPOILERS AHEAD: Isn't it funny that the only person who came CLOSE to defeating Thanos in the movie was Thor who, following a sense of honour and revenge, strategized with a team to locate and create the only weapon that could stop Thanos -AKA- he used BOTH Romanticism and Rationalism! That fact that even this failed shows a new perspective will be needed to defeat Thanos. It's interesting too that Thor struck at Thanos' heart (a poetic action) with the weapon - and Thanos corrected him by saying 'You should have gone for the head,' proving Thanos' rationalistic mindset.

[@timy9197]

Agreed. Thor wanted to keep him alive long enough so that he knew what he was dying for but that was a mistake.

[@AqibA.C.]

Heh, wow it really is all the little details that mean the most. Great observation.

[@srgfkct3544]

Nice read!

[@MrAskmannen]

Overanalysis

[@EngY2502]

And all this time I thought he meant the Hand... :d

[@666melodeath666]

I actually like both versions of Thanos. Theyre both still very motivated by emotions and philosophy. The Comic Thanos would do anything for love cuz that is his goal while Movie Thanos is willing to sacrifice his love to achieve his goals

[@jardelelias5625]

I think that's the key word. Motivation. He might be messed up in the head in both versions, but at least his goals are clear and he's willing to do anything to anchieve them.

[@clydefrosch]

666melodeath666 but comic book Thanos was selfish with all his actions, movie Thanos is portraied as a benevolent being making a hard decision to save the universe (for about 50 until population is back to previous levels)

[@joshuamanjarrez6321]

clydefrosch But he isn't benevolent, he disintegrated half of the universe populatition for rationality's sake.

[@filthyharry8349]

666melodeath666 With the power he had at his disposal there were so many things he could have done to alleviate the problem as he perceived it, that really it just comes down to Thanos wanting to kill half the people of the universe cause he was crazy. Kinda boring and shallow when you think about it.

[@jonvthvnx5729]

Darth Ruin The deaths were not pointless because it deeply affects the world and characters of the MCU. It's whats going to most likely drive A4, and the Avengers are probably at their lowest point, especially Steve and Tony. Yes Spidey will be brought back but im sure it'll take a few lives (permenantly) to do so.

[@lazerbeam134]

Thanos DESTROYS the Universe with FACTS and LOGIC lol

[@GabyGeorge1996]

And here I was thinking that the reason was simply because a character wanting to bang the anthropomorphic personification of Death (who hasn't even made a proper Cinematic appearance yet) would be too esoteric for mainstream audiences. Silly me.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

Kinda like introducing Mother Boxes into your superhero team-up movie right after you've just introduced your main superheroes?

[@GabyGeorge1996]

I know, right? Pfft, that would be RIDICULOUS. Seriously though, I thought that Hela would be taking Mistress Death's place (or, at the very least, be the humanoid mortal incarnation of Mistress Death) as Thanos' love interest. Obviously that theory was Jossed as soon as Hela was killed off in Ragnarok. As it is, we've only ever seen the four cosmic entities on a mural on a wall in GOTG and the existence of Eternity was alluded to in GOTG vol 2, but none of the entities have made a metaphysical appearance yet.

[@DoubleO88]

don't forget living tribunal in dr strange

[@runevi]

Agreed. I'm not sure if Hela = Death would've been a workable solution to introducing Mistress Death, in fact, I think having her in Ragnarok probably made the studio say that her appearance in the movies would confuse moviegoers.

[@joshuaseagondollar2495]

Granted, if Hela WAS the incarnation of Death that Thanos could have fallen in love with in the MCU, I wouldn't blame him. Cate Blanchett was ROCKING that catsuit in Thor: Ragnarok.

[@thanos-themadtitan6277]

Thank you, human. Your video is very special. I hope that they'll remember you.

[@shubo4478]

Did you really kill Gamora?

[@thanos-themadtitan6277]

No, i kill the DC Universe

[@LonelyStardefender]

I'm sorry little juan

[@edgarwills3600]

Thanos Batman has already created a plan for your shtick

[@salimalbitar]

batman is a rationalist.. like ironman.. he WILL fail!

[@Liquidus118]

Couldn't you say it's actually much simpler? That the original Thanos reflected the fear of total annihilation at the hands of nuclear weapons, whilst the new one reflects our fear of being ravaged by dwindling resources and global warming?

[@Crick1952]

Liquidus118 Never thought of that. Very fair insight

[@Alejandro333777]

Liquidus118 old thanos thought nuculsr weapons would kill us all?

[@T3HR3PP4]

Just more political obsession, just like everything these days.

[@hartwarg3051]

He did nuke his whole home planet.

[@stevehagen9804]

Spoiler alert to how infinity war 2 ends: Disney buys the Marvel rights back from Fox so they get DeadPool. DeadPool uses Cabel’s time travel device to go before the first Infinity war, and steals the Gauntlet (comic book Canon), replacing it with the fake one on Asgard. So Thanos is stuck wondering why his gauntlet isn’t working while DeadPool is collecting the Infinity stones for DeadPool3 shenanigans.

[@LTG550]

what the hell is this shit.

[@blue_pingu]

Yes

[@JohnSmith-ls4dn]

Ugh

[@nadiarey4196]

I'd watch that movie.

[@livingghost5930]

Deadpool having fun with the infinity gauntlet for two hours? Sign me up

[@sacredslash2014]

Loved the skit at the end btw

[@LupineShadowOmega]

I'd argue that Steve didn't want to beat Thanos up with an army specifically. Instead Steve believes in the strength of the human spirit. He believes in people. The people of Wakanda, the Avengers, the people of Earth. That's why he doesn't want to give up Vision, despite that being the logical choice, he believes that people together can come up with another way and that through hard work and cleverness that humans can accomplish anything.

[@GlacialScion]

LupineShadowOmega That's why he fails. A huge theme of the movie is sacrifice, and Steve is unwilling to sacrifice anything. No one in the movie is willing to make the sacrifices they know they must without hesitation except for Thanos. He willing sacrifices the most of any character in the entire MCU and so is the only one who succeeds fully in his aims. It's almost biblical theming.

[@LupineShadowOmega]

Ezeckel Reichert, except he has no choice and they sacrifice Vision anyway, only to have said sacrifice be utterly meaningless. I'm not saying he was right, because theoretically if they'd done the sacrifice earlier...maybe Thanos wouldn't have been able to reverse it. Maybe? But Thanos isn't *just* about sacrifices, he's also just a walking character arc slayer. Thor finds out that people are what matter and Thanos kills his people. Star Lord learns to let go of the people he loves and Thanos turns his sacrifice into a joke. Tony wants Pepper back and would do anything to see that happen, Thanos literally pulls them apart and Tony just might never see her again. T'Challa decides to be a better and more worthy king, Wakanda has no king. Basically the list just goes on.

[@KookiesNolly]

that kid from Brooklyn who was too stubborn to run away from a fight, I'm following him, till the end of the line

[@jamesn3122]

LupineShadowOmega or he is willing to sacrifice a bunch of black people instead of a British robot

[@kevincruz2470]

And what's a group of people coming together to fight? Oh right, an army 😂

[@darkdestiny9106]

Personally, there is some form of messiah complex that Movie Thanos has that heavily influences his actions. He is a rationalist birthed from his own experience on Titan, where his people fought to the brink of extinction on his planet and that shaped his view on the world: resources are limited, thus the demand should be less to prevent fighting. Hell, he even expresses this complex several times, citing that people on the planets he's visited are happier because of the resource abundance they now have. And he mentions that the people he kills are randomly chosen to avoid discrimination/income gap/etc, seeing himself as the hero in his own story, which is excellent story-telling.

[@carlospointofview]

Man I really love this episode! Not because I’m a Thanos fan, but because how you guys produced it. The writing very on point and clear without losing track. Very smart with those comparisons between the Avengers story to the those of classic literature. Good job 👍

[@JoseAngelC]

The internship chain of command Garyx > Jared > Mark

[@rosslytle5700]

Oh hi Mark

[@zero1188]

thanos just signed to golden state warriors for the last two infinity stones

[@TheSpotlessMind93]

Damn you and your user picture.

[@kamanahanapi-lopes2336]

I thought your picture was an eyelash on my screen

[@MarvelousPhilly]

Stop following me, weirdo.

[@AirC4523]

Sorry to say this but LeBron signed with the Lakers

[@Obelg]

You should make your profile picture hair smaller so its more believeable

[@ArchetypeGotoh]

I still prefer the comic version of Thanos, but i appreciate your insight. Perhaps it’s too simplistic of me, but my initial reaction to movie Thanos was “you’re wearing the ‘literally-do-anything’ glove, and your best idea is ‘kill everyone’? That’s so stupid.” But perhaps that’s the point; as a larger social commentary, it’s so much easier to fall into a larger pre-existing camp and ignore its flaws than to explore nuance and find alternatives to bad options. A neat take on things

[@darthodin9736]

indeed a astute comparison notice how things today are? buy a game wait for a review the game is either great or garbage no in between,support a president for instance and you are idiot with no positive position,watch netflix?thumbs up or thumps down... people these days dont have a "medium" setting its either good or bad,all in or nothing

[@festethephule7553]

Ronie Carlos Araujo Hell, the US has a two party system and an "either with us or against us" attitude. This feels highly unsustainable.

[@ElkiLG]

It doesn't help that the movie never explains how he came to that conclusion of killing half of the population. People on his planet mocked him, as they should, it doesn't make much sense, but then they all died so he was right and we don't need any other explanation? Oh yes, he's a psychopath, the easiest solution to a character doing something that doesn't make sense. Eh. Also comicbook Thanos has a good backstory.

[@Zoomy]

In a conversation with Gamora he mentions the worlds he genocided being better, happier places after his intervention, which would reinforce his conclusion.

[@QuestionQuestionMark]

Because Overpopulation ensued War and Famine and drove his home planet into a spiral of it's own self destruction. Thanos makes perfect sense to me and tbh If I had a snap glove best bet I'd snap in a heart beat. The Infinity Gauntlets power is limited in that It cannot create something from which there was nothing, he can't make a planet appear out of nothing he isn't a god. Making more just perpetuates the issue because the more you make the more you consume in an endless cycle and if anything he is simply delaying the Inevitable for the better because he at least understands everything has an end including life so why not just give the universe a good snap.

[@sakhilehlongwa5494]

I love this channel so goddamn much. You guys really have this down to a science, and I just have so much respect for that

[@HxH2011DRA]

Interns seize the means of production

[@trippysnow3791]

Execute Order 66

[@RonSwex]

BN j

[@charliefoxtrot3980]

I thought this video was going to be about how Thanos changed within the MCU. Because in all preceding movies he has this evil grin on his face and looks like a typical "I enjoy being evil!" type of villain but that was ret-conned in IW with him being outwardly cold but inwardly sad. I have to say I like IWs more nuanced take.

[@nahomaragaw5047]

i think thats pretty much all there is to that. Marvel probably didn't have a specific take for the character yet so they made him into a big bad type till they had something concrete. a little annoying when you go back and watch him and see some inconsistencies but it worked out in the end.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

What inconsistencies? He didn't do anything that different before IW.

[@nahomaragaw5047]

Vibranium Shield there’s zero mention of him destroying half of Drax’s people whom died as a result of his orders. The way he speaks makes him come across more like a big bad conqueror type rather than the more solemn and introspective version we see in infinity war. It’s nowhere near a big deal though since these are fairly minor details that can easily be overlooked

[@nahomaragaw5047]

Julian Laborde it all worked out in the end so it’s all good. And yeah, I like how marvel stays true to what makes the characters and their stories good but not adapting them verbatim. It creates new good material while paying respects to its source material

[@EurekxMisora]

I like to think that before IW we see him like how everyone else in the universe sees him as a evil conquerer. But in IW, we’re shown his actions from his perspective

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Thanos is always right

[@frankythefatboi1952]

AlternateHistoryHub YES YES INDEED.

[@andylordy177]

Wild

[@SpiralSine6]

Alternate history if Thanos was wrong

[@D0NU75]

Not if Doom says otherwise

[@technicaldifficulties3289]

OMG HIIIII IM A HUGE FAN

[@scottk1525]

You should do another video explaining why they changed him back into a cliché, one-dimensional villain for Endgame.

[@theattractionswitch9425]

great breakdown thank you -RR

[@4D4plus4is4D8]

Wow, your editor REALLY likes that little chime sound effect.

[@Mitch3lT0mas]

4D4plus4is4D8 I don't know if I can watch these videos anymore. All I notice is chimes now

[@4D4plus4is4D8]

The same thing happened to me - once I noticed it, it was all I could hear

[@TheJaseku]

The movie displays the showdown between fanatic individualism (the ego of Thor / "we don't trade lives" - The Vision) vs. fanatic utilitarianism (fueled by the trauma of thanos - he lost all of his people because he didn't go all the way in his past). I love the movie because it teaches these very hidden messages: Go for the middle way / try to think outside your current ideology.

[@Michelle-vm3dp]

I went to one of the Russo brothers interviews and they talked about having giving thanos a more personal relationship to the marvel characters. They said instead of death they used gamora instead to drive him to connect him more with the established universe. But I like your analysis way more and I want to believe that's the intention.

[@carlospretel4630]

One of the best videos and analysis you have ever done. Great job!

[@tehfriedwaffles]

"Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@rafaelalodio5116]

I never understood this line, what was Thanos referring to at that moment? Was he aware of Ultron?

[@tehfriedwaffles]

Rafael Alódio yes

[@rafaelalodio5116]

But how though?

[@-m.d.n-9019]

Rafael Alódio I thought it was cause Loki and Ronan didn't accomplish it themselves.

[@timhaldane7588]

The thing that's funny to me about this is that neuroscience has demonstrated very clearly that pure rationalism is impossible. The ability to process emotion is absolutely vital to making decisions. I would argue that this is because decisions cannot be made without values, and values are simply an expression of our emotional attachment to things or concepts. Thanos clearly has some level of emotional attachment to Gamora, so he must *value* the greater goal of balancing the universe more than her individual life. He believes he is acting for the greater good. And this is where I think there is a good reason that Thanos most clearly embodies the pessimism of Thomas Malthus - a Romanticist, mind you. Thanos is basically a fatalist: even with ultimate power, the inherent nature of the universe is inevitably cruel. Life unchecked will utterly destroy itself, so you might as well rip the band-aid off now and prevent long-drawn-out suffering. In other words, in the debate about life as a zero-sum or nonzero-sum game, Thanos is CLEARLY on the zero-sum side. The central argument against this, of course, is classically Hegel ("why not both?"). You have a magic glove, so why not change the rules? It's a fantastic argument, really, and only has two possible answers: either Thanos believes this inherent cruelty is beyond the power of even his magic glove to fix, or whether he knows it or not, something inside him actually prefers it this way. This is why I am still on team "Thanos worships Death."

[@timy9197]

Good point

[@macmcleod1188]

Absolutely!!!! Only in mathematics, computer science, and a few areas like that is logic truely dispassionate. two people thinking logically can conclude a+b > c and a+b < c It just depends on how much weight they give to factors 'a' and 'b'. --- I'm on the side, "Thanos has been killing half the population of planets since his own planet rejected his plan." Thanos is about *validating* his plan, his opinion, and showing he was right. If he suddenly changed plans, he wouldn't be Thanos. He'd be some other character. Plus I get the impression from other videos that the MCU infinity stones do have limitations on their power (at least when used thru the gauntlet).

[@sada0101]

If he was an ardent fatalist, that believes that life is just drawn out suffering for everyone, why would he not kill everyone? Make life non-existent in the universe? That would make more sense. Half a solution is no solution in this scenario, cause suffering is still happening according to his logic.

[@dextriathlon3642]

Well said

[@Metalders]

So that must be why they'll introduce Captain Marvel before Avengers 4, she might be the middle ground between Stark's brain and Roger's heart.

[@javierfernandez6030]

Yes, because.. WAMEN

[@sergiomendoza4040]

Andioyani Channel not really

[@knightofanguish7399]

I actually want to like Captain Marvel. If she is the next phase in bringing in the next story I'm down for it. Handling her and the other newbies the baton to shape the avengers after the originals (and some others) done their job in Avengers 4 will be interesting but they must earn it. Which is why I'm concern with the current trends to alter her of what she actually isn't. I just want a good character and story. Not your own personal agenda and beliefs.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Couldn’t Tony and Cap do the Fusion Dance and create the ultimate rational romantic hero?

[@shroomie108]

They are bringing her in before avengers 4 because shes the most powerful hero in marvel.

[@mstrider80]

Epic video guys. I'm an occasional watcher. You have got me keen to take a few more philosophy classes. Also analyzing my own short story characters. Thank you. It's a good thing.

[@josephmchugh4040]

Thanos snaps his fingers and starts to disappears too. Thanos: "Oh shiiii…."

[@perfectdeath5310]

bottom or top half? or left or right...

[@valentine316]

Did the snap affect the planets Thanos already visited? is there only a quarter of the Asgardians left?

[@lukepraisestone397]

considering nearly all of them were on the ship that exploded in the beginning of the movie they're probably all dead...

[@GameLeaderR]

LukePraisestone yeah i was wondering how half survived if the ship exploded but i guess thanos took them as prisoners or escape pods

[@Curttehmurt]

It wasn't based on half of each planet is was half of all life in the entire universe, supposedly at random which is why Groot, despite being among the last of his race, got snapped. Although I do say supposedly cause it's awfully convenient for thanos that several of the Avengers got dusted

[@aidanrogers4438]

LukePraisestone No, it was still just half of Asgard. The ship is actually torn in two the beginning and Thor says that Thanos slaughtered half his people. As for whether the Snap affected the People Thanos had balanced already, I don't think so. That's where the Soul Stone can come in handy, as well as keeping it random, it would probably be used to distinguish those who have already been affected and those haven't.

[@anthonylipke7754]

Consider Drax.

[@salimalbitar]

this channel is *incredibly awesome!* it NEVER ceases to amaze me!

[@arielg.522]

This was fantastic, great job!

[@BenjamminFranklin.]

Ohh man I almost thought you were gonna kill half the interns. Glad they got their nachos

[@ZerlingProductions]

me too

[@paprika3881]

The problem with new Thanos is that the all "killing half of the population" thing is just stupid because there's no thicc Death to please

[@6gradosproducciones]

Paprika they had it easy too, they had Hela yo exploit

[@lyonheart777]

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[@NewPhoneWhoThis52]

Thanos in the comics is more of a loon, but Thanos in the MCU see his actions as necessary means to better the universe and is also a loon

[@freddieforeman5350]

yeah but Thanos be THICC

[@drewpamon]

Freddie Foreman I'm getting so tired of that term.

[@adarshsirsat9110]

thank you internet

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

drewpamon Well its going to stay forever so get used to it

[@ToaHurlak52]

*THICC*os

[@XxBNFootball21xX]

Durr Hurr

[@EliseLogan]

This was such a good episode! Nice job, y'all.

[@bigboss9150]

That was deep. I love how you keep making me love Infinity War more and more every time.

[@darkwatershadow]

I don't really like that create more resources argument. The logistics of it would be a nightmare. Where do these resources go? How do they store and distribute them? Do you give them more space for all this sudden bounty? Do you make the planet bigger to give people more land to expand and grow? Doesn't that screw up established regional borders, weather, and the economy? What would a suddenly larger Earth do to our universe? Would it screw up planet rotation? Gravity? The orbit around the sun? Even if Thanos has god like powers, the logistics of providing for the whole universe would be so complicated that I doubt any one man would be able to handle it. Even if he has these god like powers, that argument about creating more resources seems to hand wave away a lot of the complications and problems that it would cause. It's like saying you end world hunger by giving people who are hungry food. If nobody's planning how to keep those people fed tomorrow, then what good will feeding them today do? Will that food even get distributed to everyone who needs to eat? Where will you keep it all? How can you stop people from hoarding and make sure everyone gets what they need? Doing something like this on a universal scale would just be thousands of times more complicated and need to be handled differently on a planet to planet basis. The thought of one man being able to do it, even with these crazy powers is just insane. .

[@blakeharris58]

That's a lazy and selfish counter argument. Mainly because the rest of the universe applies too. To elaborate, the universe is infinite. Thanos is applying an assumptive solution to a very localized problem. He feels like he was right about why Titan fell and the rest of the universe must be just like Titan, so he is justified. This is false as presented. How can he be sure there is no way to solve the problem by facilitating intergalactic trade or even expanding the universe? The Death premise is neater.

[@emperorjoker9240]

Blake Harris I think he’s onto something though. Think about it what would really change by increasing the resources. If a family who only had one child suddenly had more food they would make more children. the population more than what it already was therefore nothing would’ve changed.

[@TheRedCap30]

Also the Infinity Gauntlet can't create matter, it only alters what is there.

[@darkwatershadow]

Well if that's true then this whole thing is already busted.

[@superiorraiden]

The gauntlet can effectively create matter. It can manipulate reality to WHATEVER the bearer wants so you can literally make a beach ball become a large building with millions of objects inside. You can make a house turn into a cat. It can create and destroy matter in a practical sense. All you have to do is google feats with the gauntlet and see it creates matter lol.

[@craigwoodward8455]

Okay, tired of people saying Thanos could have created more planets or resources or whatever. I know that due to 'death-of-the-author', it's not technically able to be said as it was never shown in the movie. But for a general bit of information, the Reality stone can WARP reality, but not BREAK it. What that means, is he cannot create, only change and transform. (Of course, if he was smart with biomechanics he could alter the universe and translate soil resources into composite food, yes. But fuck it, not the point.) The fact is, he can't blink a planet into existence (unless he used it to form a planet out of already available environmental resources, like in a nebula... I suppose.)

[@jakequali7608]

Julian Laborde nemesis actually

[@jakequali7608]

Julian Laborde and what you're talking about is the heart of the universe which is a part of the one above all.

[@abiuniverse]

Law of conservation of total mass energy of universe doesn't allow it, Infinity stones are also governed by those laws.

[@KingBobXVI]

The infinity stones are also governed by the law that they don't affect each other (otherwise, with the space stone you could just reach out and grab all the rest and end the movie in 12 minutes). They already broke this by "repairing" the mind stone using the time stone.

[@abiuniverse]

repairing word means it was stitched back together , act of stitching happens in time which move in forward direction after the mind stone shatter event. Time stone did nothing like that it just made a jump to a time which exist in past. So technically thats not repairing

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[@lordsomethingorother290]

Interesting analysis, but I have to contest your designation of Stark as the protagonist, when in reality this is the story of Thanos overcoming all odds to save the universe in his own twisted mind, right down to going through The Hero's Journey, if not exactly in order.

[@macmcleod1188]

Absolutely! That's what makes this movie work. Thanos is the protagonist. He has the snappy one liners. He wins. And he complete's his own hero's journey.

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[@commentkiller5639]

The create more resources argument doesn’t work on its own merit, but there is some evidence to suggest that the Infinity Gauntlet couldn’t have done it anyway. Even in the comics, the Infinity Gauntlet only works within its own universe meaning you can’t steal matter or energy from outside the universe preventing a simple doubling of resources. And matter and energy cannot be created from nothing. Aaaand the Infinity Gauntlet from the movie is severely underpowered compared to the comics version anyway.

[@Qwertyuiop-lg7ko]

Comment Killer And You know that because? This has it own rules, this isn't the comic, this can do anything the writers want

[@lokuendog]

Just turn rocks and sand into food. Go full Jesus. That way you won't be creating matter, just transforming it.

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[@smithoma]

Check out Garix Wormuloid over in Earthling Cinema. They did a pretty good one on Unbreakable, in that series.

[@bernardoheusi6146]

Gurren Lagann too

[@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix]

Videos like this are why I love this channel.

[@ragtaghero84]

Great analysis. One of the best videos on the movie.

[@MsErdnussbutter]

I love this channel sooo much

[@djpsykix9266]

So... Thanos is basically in a nutshell, an Emo fedora redit user rationalist fascinated with death going through a phase?

[@timy9197]

Basically. He went through a farming phase too.

[@honkhonk8009]

hes more of a space commie

[@maxcoseti]

In Thanos Quest he literally defeats his last adversary by playing a video game against him, so basically yes

[@zoltanszaszi2264]

My God his entire character and mindset and reasoning is best explained by this comment. Yes.

[@danielsmith9130]

I simply don't understand why this hasn't gotten a million views, yet. This is very good analytics, very good, indeed...

[@hellojari07]

love these

[@augustq5721]

I always feel the need to commend a video when their commercial is watchable and I watched to the end of your funny bit about learning interns names. Honestly a good commercial 👍 plus it told me about a lot of things I didn’t know skillshare even would have.

[@yoshidinono8095]

"It is important to note that the 2018 Thanos isn't who Thanos has always been." THANK YOU!

[@Kage848]

Thanos didn't do nuffin. Also pineapple pizza? Your the real monster wisecrack!

[@dhakshkamra1553]

Great video! Well done wisecrack.

[@yanroferrer1640]

I liked what you guys did with the commercial part for SkillShare.

[@iamclueless6398]

You wanna know what *truly* changed Thanos? *The MEMES*

[@iwillheadlockyournan731]

i think its a simple case of trying to make him a compelling character cinematically

[@Lalzparty]

Thanks for the repeat Mark!😊

[@partlyironic]

This is everything ive ever thought about MCU civil war and thanos stories in one video. Its been so beautifully set out, ever since Steve and Tony knocked heads in Avengers: You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you. I think I would just cut the wire.

[@neophenom]

There's always this debate that seems to suggest that Thanos could have created more resources or make more planets. This is such a puzzling idea, considering that such suggestions are actually terrible if not, down right impossible. Here's the thing, by making more planets you would probably create a number of orbital and gravitational issues. Probably ending up killing more people. Not to mention that more planets don't mean all civilisations can get to them. Second is more resources. Sounds good, but has two issues. First, you may end up boosting population growth, which with limited space would make the over population issue even worse, not to mention put a bigger strain to the environment. Second issue, and it applies to the planet creation thing. Matter can't be created or destroyed, it be transformed. Based on all we saw, the Gauntlet follows this law. Hence creating something from nothing was never even an option. Even those who died by the snap, were transformed into ash and not just magically vanished. A little science with philosophy makes for a good match. (Even if it's to create more fun debates)

[@JulianCaesaro]

Neophenom Simple physics and astronomy, you take the infinity gauntlet and manipulate the space matter(located in nebulas) and turn that into planets, or just turn the same space matter into food and usable resources, and there you get a simple solution

[@neophenom]

Julian L. S. Caesarino 2 I thought it, but it still doesn't resolve the issue of orbital or matter allocation. Any changes to the current configuration of most systems can destroy the unique balance that allows life to exist in the first place. That includes the usage of said matter to make new things not intended to be there. That still plays very strongly into the "Rational" philosophy. Either such choices were considered and deemed dead ends, risky or the movie version of Gaunlet has limitations. Killing 4 billion people won't affect the earth. If you make a new celestial body near our planet could destroy us all. I think that was part of the rational behind it all.

[@cai6972]

He could've made it so that lifeforms don't need as many resources, made all lifeforms and their resources smaller in scale compared to their planet, made more planets, made every lifeform more rational - literally anything but death.

[@neophenom]

@@cai6972 that is assuming a lot of the ability of the movie version of the Gauntlet. The finite nature of things can't be changed regardless any of those suggestions. We don't even know if this was a one shot deal either. In any case, even culling is still a temporary solution, so I think it may be part of a bigger plan of his. It any case it seems all alternative solutions are based on fear of death or the "morality" of killing. Considering that is mindset that created the main issue, makes it hard to even want to look in that direction. That is, based on what we know so far.

[@happydemon3038]

The bigger problem, is that giving more resources is postponing extinction, not preventing it. They will reproduce faster, not slower. Because lots of space, lots of resources, lots of food. And when they overpopulate again, what do you do? Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. A lesson needs to be taught. Being punished for overpopulation, rather than rewarded, would make people more willing to learn. Because they don't want to be punished again, but they do want to be rewarded. If they learn, they are smart, and fit for survival. If they're foolish, they will repeat the same mistake, and exterminate themselves. Natural selection, it's not kind, but it works.

[@charliesweb7071]

Does that mean Thor is both? Cuz he did succeed and he doesn't really fall into either of these category, he's something between a rationalist and a romantic.

[@jamezbennett]

That was dope I love the use of philosophy to add scope to your points

[@zab6217]

i cannot even voice how much I love your rationalisation of pop culture. Makes me feel smarter to watch these.

[@doctordoom7232]

Pineapple Pizza......you're a mad man!!!! A mad titan!!!

[@Crick1952]

This... This does put a smile on my face.

[@thanos-themadtitan6277]

Oh, hi Doctor Doom. Maybe one day you will enjoy this Marvel universe.

[@Nell-r0se]

Doctor Doom pineapple pizza is great

[@jameswhite6056]

Doctor Doom he wouldnt like it. Maybe dpool

[@capmar-vell92returns20]

Because Jim Starlin's characterisation of Thanos as a intellectual and self-loathing nihilist who tries to convince the grim reaper itself to love him doesn't fit with the standards of modern Hollywood blockbusters. No one in comics can write Thanos well but Jim Starlin.

[@hartwarg3051]

CapMar-Vell92 Returns Well said fellow Starlinite.

[@joneshugh]

2nd!!! I knew it was gonna happen though. MCU Thanos = brick

[@vibraniumshield7383]

pretty sure starlin likes mcu thanos

[@capmar-vell92returns20]

So?

[@DrakeCaliburn]

I was at Jim Starlin's panel at Baltimore Comic Con. He said Thanos was the personification of insatiable desire, always wanting, never satisfied. He did say he liked the Russo's Thanos because it makes him a more compelling villain and a foil to Tony Stark.

[@zaquar]

Thanks for the update!

[@LTdrumma]

These videos are mindblowing

[@TheNerdstalgicPodcast]

Need some more thug notes

[@ThreesixnineGF]

I miss my G

[@Dude_Abides]

I agree....even if many of the classic literary works have been done before...there are many works still to do..i can think of alot of graphic novels that can be done. (Batman: The Killing Joke, Marvels Civil War, etc...)

[@ThreesixnineGF]

Yeah I always thought they could talk about comics and other graphic novels in Thug Notes or t least those with the most dramatic turns to keep it philosophically interesting enough.

[@dude7266]

GingerJoker117 He needs to do the red badge of courage

[@Shadow1Yaz]

Skill share add was adorable!!

[@PsyDragon]

Great video guys!

[@datinsky69]

Twin Peaks reference. Now I love you guys even more!

[@K2HunterX]

Thank goodness, i hadn't considered Thanos being the worst case scenario of Tony and that honestly helps me with this version of Thanos. The movie made him feel so empty inside and nothing like the passionate mad-titan from the comics.

[@1MoreTurn]

Rejoice, we will all be children of Thanos on July 9th on reddit

[@schmoorfderschmied1763]

I like the new approach on the advertisment.

[@taylordimartino2946]

Nice shout out to Foxon Park!! Didn’t realize there were many outside of New England (or CT specifically) that knew about the brand.

[@Kattytatty02]

Doubling resources only exaggerates the problem. Yes, eliminating half of life only prolongs it, but Thanos is 1500 years old. I'd assume he'd be around for a few more wipes at least.

[@stephenblack5425]

I think Thanos killed more than 50%. Due to the sudden disappearance of half of the earth, a lot of atrocities were happened which would've definitely caused the deaths of millions more.

[@Panda_Roll]

Wait, Skill share forces my boss to get me NACHOS!!!!!!!! Sends him the links and waits. The Nachos were a LIE!

[@Leo-ok8qc]

Hallo WISECRACK. I really enjoyed this great advertisement, as much as the video. Thanks,for the awesome content. Best regarts from Austria :)

[@koalasquare2145]

love the art

[@jonsel27578]

dread it...

[@El_Vuego]

Jonsel run from it...

[@CHP.Spinna]

Destiny still arrives...

[@elevate07]

Or should I say...I have

[@KookiesNolly]

with a potato on top

[@salimalbitar]

that finally put a smile on his face!

[@clydefrosch]

and Tony's plan did t fail. his plan was never put into action

[@Swellnesss]

You know how sometimes you walk out a movie or finish the last episode of a show and get that feeling that erase the experience so you can do it again? For me, this is the real world application of that, I get to subscribe after 12 minutes and go back in the content. I can't re-watch this one again for the first time; but damn if I don't want to dive into the archives and chase the dragon.

[@TeresaBaileypolymath]

I really enjoyed your analysis. It actually helps me recontextualize current political shenanigans. Thanks!

[@sstream17]

Whatever that company is paying you for that ad is not enough

[@stevenle9960]

so basically to make the Star Wars comparison Comic Thanos is a sith, chasing after passion, while movie thanos is very logical and didn't take emotions into the equation, when he found out that his attachments held him back from achieving his goal he cut it off

[@justinsalmons7087]

Matpat sent me here and now I'm hooked on all your videos!

[@BeingShari]

Awesome video!!!