The Mind-Altering Markers | Dead Space Lore

[@WiseFish]

Make Us Whole by watching, leaving a like, sub and nice comment :)

[@raygonzales8720]

You get a sub for showing my boy Roanoke some love!

[@alpha-1redrighthand829]

"We are whole. You will know. You will see. Like we see you."

[@RoanokeGaming]

Maybe it wasnt about the dismembered necromorphs along the way, Maybe it was the marker signal inside us all along...oh God

[@JoseHernandez-xv2bt]

Alright I’ve heard enough, deadly force authorized

[@WiseFish]

Don’t think that’s what it wants!

[@vellinghem2187]

Perhaps the true marker signal were the friends we made along the way.

[@timothyswanson8773]

Ready the force multipliers!

[@raygonzales8720]

I'm calling the emperor and his legions of astartis soldiers on all of y'all 😂😂😂😂😂

[@antcow1239]

Maybe the necromorphs were a long dead races attempt at immortality, that either went horribly right or horribly wrong.

[@danielbricker7204]

maybe it was a weapon, send it to your enemies and watch as they tear themselves apart?

[@antcow1239]

@@danielbricker7204 Just as possible, i cant see the Necros being a natural development. The Brethren moons are likely unnatural apex predator cosmozoans with a god complex on their own, that takes intelligence.

[@NoobWonderWaffle]

@@antcow1239 correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it not said in one of the books where a few people have said that the marker symbols are in a sense of familiarity, but the humans are kind of resistant to it if your smart like a defensive mechanism.

[@antcow1239]

@@NoobWonderWaffle Ive read that too, so yes there are those who are so resistant that they dont even feel the markers influence.

[@TheodoreChin-ih7xz]

@@antcow1239 I tell you what if I were on Aegis VII things would have gone down differently

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

I absolutely adore the lore of this universe, it's so eldritch and inspired by Lovecraftian horror that it's so unique. It's like Fallout, you can't get this experience anywhere else 🔥🔥🔥

[@WiseFish]

I agree! I’m annoyed it took me this long to explore its universe

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

@@WiseFish Haha same. I've loved the games since I was kid but only read all of the books and comics in the past few years. But the Remake has been so stellar that I've got my fingers (like the Marker lol) that we'll get new Dead Space stuff! 😁👍

[@Chilling_Charizard]

What I enjoy is that it’s so easy to pick up and you don’t have to do any mental gymnastics for the story or character behavior.

[@Xehanort10]

Ironic that Altman was trying to contain or destroy the Marker but his death inspired a cult that worshipped it and the Necromorphs as gods.

[@topcat59]

Our boy Isaac was to much of a big brain for the marker to absorbed.😺

[@WiseFish]

Clearly he was a student of Roanoke Gaming

[@knightfall5125]

I was hoping Dead Space Remake to be a direct sequel to Dead Space 3 and it’s DLC Awakened. In DS3, the aliens of Tau Volantis had technology that humans didn’t know how to operate. Like Isaac said in Awakened DLC “we don’t know what that technology can do” I wish we explored more about Tau Volantis, than what we were given. A love triangle.. the whole galaxy is reaching the end and they give us a love triangle.

[@TheOneFamine]

This ironically has something human about it - everything is ending and our last standing boys are chasing love

[@creamofcropgaming]

The last chapters of dead space 3 were so immersive and engrossing I remember being in awe the first time running through it with my custom semi auto assault rifle shotgun attached with acid ammunition were tearing through the cultists and aliens

[@carlosspicyweiner6200]

I was a brain once then I took a necromorph to the knee.

[@VinceP1974]

A problem with Dead Space lore is that they were making it up as each new bit of media was being created. I'm watching a video series right now that has an original dev of 2008, DS2 and DS3 comment on the remake. He says back in Dead Space 2008 , the devs had no concept of Convergence. So that explains the Marker purpose drift between the early media and Dead Space 2.

[@dougsmith6262]

Only played the first game, and it was one of the most stressful games I've ever played.

[@ARuiz-eu3hk]

Found it funny and scary AF that the original red marker back on DS 1 was able to save itself through Issac before it got destroyed in the planet. Goes to show how intelligent, cunning and terrifying this space rock can be.

[@Cothfotmeoo]

I always pick up little bits of lore from games like these but sometimes there's just so much or the info comes in out of chronological order and it can get confusing. Your vids always really help to put the pieces together with the games they're from. Loved this one, for sure! Well played!

[@LordVortex888]

Still enjoy the weapon crafting in DS3 I get what people say about the ending of DS3 however I still enjoy it. No matter the similarities, I will forever enjoy the weapon crafting/blue printing innovative feature. I still hope we get not only more sequels but find out how and when they stop the brotherin moons and their origins and possibly more aliens/planets

[@texasallstar6969]

Only the Imperium of Man would have any hope of defeating these monsters.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Only if they don't get corrupted by the Markers as well.

[@OnePolishMoFo]

There's alot of bits in Dead Space 1 specifically I don't understand. Why does the Red Marker want to be reunited with it's pedestal? I didn't understand in 2008 and I don't get it now. If Kendra works for EarthGov and wants the Marker gone why not just let it be destroyed down on the planet instead of trying to fly away with it where it'll likely just be found again? If the Ishimura's comms are fucked how did Nicole send the message at the beginning of the game? Why does she not mention anything about necromorphs? You'd think she'd be more forthcoming with the fact the ship is overrun with monsters. Nah, she just wants to tell Isaac she's sad. Why was Nicole the only one able to send a message? Why does the beacon require the comms array to be functional? Isn't the point of an emergency beacon is to able to send out a signal without the use of your regular equipment? If the Valor was sent in to destroy the ship why bother picking up an escape pod and try making contact with the ship? What, did they want to have a chat before killing everyone? If EarthGov knows the danger of the Marker why send just Kendra do deal with it? Not only that but send a warship soon afterwards and tell them jack shit of what they'll encounter? I get that want to keep the Marker a secret but they could have at least told them to steer clear of the ship and not pick anything up along the way. I love this series by the way it just feels like the first game, as much as I adore it, has many holes in it.

[@zach.minton]

The marker can't complete convergence because it needs to absorb its makers and they have been dead for hundreds of years by the time of dead space so the marker goes to plan B. Implant marker codes into an architect to build another marker aka Isaac and the site 12 marker on Titan station. Something about the pedestal is needed for it to implement the codes into someone's mind. The comms were not out at the beginning the ship took hours to a few days to be overrun and people where aware Dr. Kyne started to sabotage things so Nicole could have sent her message out before the comms array was sabotaged as for why she didn't mention anything game play reason most likely. The beacon didn't need the comms array they just needed it to speak to the valor. The beacon would transmit but they couldn't receive any responses or talk back to anyone. As for why Earth Gov didn't tell the valor or send anyone else with Kendra. Gameplay reasons most likely earthgov knows the marker is there but they where not sure that the cec found it so they sent Kendra undercover to see what happened.

[@Barad-Dur_IsACapitalOfMordor]

@@zach.mintonalso Valor didn’t just picked up an escape pod, it have breached the hull of the ship.

[@thenintendocyclops1074]

My interpretation of the pedestal was that the Red Marker needed a more centralised point on the planet itself (given that every convergence event we've seen has taken place on a planet or moon) and the pedestal either happened to be in just the right spot or was simply the easiest point to be transported to while also being able to effectively trigger the event, with the pedestal itself being ultimately unnecessary and only really used as a way to give Isaac (or any other suitable candidate, we're they alive) directions. EarthGov's reasoning changes depending on whether or not you're talking about DS1 or DS1:R, in the original Earthgov knew of its existence and still wanted to attempt to use it as a source of energy, but Daniels was a Unitologist who was playing triple-agent at this point and sought to return it to the church. In the remake EarthGov had created it a few hundred years back in a clandestine experiment, but deemed it too risky after shit hit the fan and left it buried there, keeping it monitored until the outbreak happened, where they then case they planted Daniels aboard the Kellion initially to see the damages and report back, however in this version she wasn't a Unitologist and could see right through the Marker's tricks given her prior knowledge having read EarthGov's classified documents on their initial incident and had taken it upon herself to try and destroy the thing, she meets death in both games. Also, what the fuck is Nicole going to tell Isaac? "Hey sweetie, shit hit the fan, we found a big rock and now corpses are tearing the crew a new one!"?

[@guilherme5094]

I always thought Marker was like that Dark Heart that appears in the Justice League cartoon, an ultimate annihilation weapon that gone out of control of the creator. Anyway, great video👍.

[@kytim89]

The plausible origin for the necromorphs is that some highly advanced civilization create them eons ago as a way of eliminating competition on a galactic scale. Resource competition is fierce here on earth. It would be far, far worse if civilizations were competing for planetary resources.

[@amokana]

Interesting but I don't think so, if I'm competing for resources I won't create something that can turn planets with plenty of resources into a massive biomass. Instead, I think the brethren moons ARE the advanced civilization and markers are their way of reproducing. You send markers to random of planets hoping some civilization will grow enough to get greedy to use the marker as an energy source but trigger convergence instead so that they can have a new member Them being able to communicate telepathically means they can explore the galaxy far and wide until they take over everything. The necromorphs are simply they way to create bodies that can be used as biomass for their bodies.

[@kytim89]

@@amokana Convergence of a planet's biomass leaves its resources such as minerals ripe for the taking for an advanced civilization.

[@General_Ward]

I always appriciated the more creative touches of madness within the series. Modern neuroscience shows the influences of the marker would be even more pronounced. It would change you vision sure but also how you interpretted, encoded, and stored those memories. You could learn very different lessons from the same incident. Your memories could be retroactively manipulated so you always thought you perfectly remembered everything. Plus tons of smaller things psych nerds like me find entertaining like microvolt values, chemical balances, possibly even arangements of cell clusters

[@xxtapout12xx43]

How convenient for this right after i beat dead space 2 for the first time just 20 mins ago lol. I wanted to know more. Thanks for the video🤙🏻

[@Robp787]

Lucky bugger, I’d give anything to play DS2 for the first time again

[@Morrowind4732]

My new crusade is to like all your videos. Absolutely love your channel and presentations of lore. Thanks for another awesome upload to listen to. Keep up the good work Hero WiseFish.

[@junkoenoshima6756]

Dead space isn't a story about Issac, it's about space dying. (And everything else dying as well)

[@kenneth27205]

Truly dead space moment

[@jailcatjones3250]

My guess they wanted the markers to surround there main compounds for protection and have the necromorphs purify the population making it easy to get loads of new followers fast, a literal convert or die situation.

[@ahamedramadan8030]

MAKE US WHOLE. Finally more dead space lore

[@andrewplatz9818]

I don't think the black marker could start convergence. Seeing as the marker needs to absorb it's creator to complete convergence. I think its just meant to foster evolution of sentient species and pass on blueprints so said species could create their own marker.

[@coreyteague3577]

To think a space rock can make you lose your mind and turned you into a monster

[@Two_Gnomes_In_A_Trench_Coat]

I always look forward to your uploads. Thank you, Mr. Fish!!

[@WiseFish]

Thank you so much my dude! I’m so glad you enjoy the vids :)

[@brandonsandberg]

@@WiseFish I really love that you work this hard and are so personable as to show your gratitude like this your an A+ dude and content creator.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Isaac, make us whole again

[@GrandmasterDevo]

However the story of Dead Space ends, it won't be a happy one. I reckon that Isaac will manage to stop the Brethren, but Earth will be destroyed and humanity will be reduced to few scattered colonies, barely holding themselves together and facing extinction within a generation or two. The only bright side being that there are no more Markers left to influence the human race and that our future, whatever it may be, will truly be ours to determine for ourselves.

[@zach.minton]

One of the original writers talked about some of the Lore for the potential dead space 4 and that humanity would have won against the moon's but they where better off with the devil they know vs what they didn't. Supposedly there was something else out in the universe that's worse than the moon's and they kept the greater evil at bay.

[@TheKrieg45]

Imagine if humanity just loses its intelligence or consciousness if all the Markers are destroyed along with the Brethren Moon. That would be scary af, return to monkee.

[@tessfabled4115]

I think that would be a bittersweet ending tbh. Return to monke but free, humanity left to evolve on its' own, however that may go. @@TheKrieg45

[@JohnnyWasabi]

Wild me and my friend was just talking about this.

[@Kommisar_Lutter]

It's funny that in most sci-fi universes this is a world-ending threat, meanwhile in WH40k it would be a tuesday.

[@gregweisal5542]

Just started the dead space remake. Its free on PS5. I get a real evil dead feeling between play time I'm diving Into the lore

[@thenintendocyclops1074]

Just beat the remake as a long-time fan of the series. Assuming you haven't beaten it yet, I can confidently say it's everything about survival-horror done near-perfectly and it is mind-boggling that the remake actually managed to make the experience just as horrifying as the original all over again if not more.

[@gregweisal5542]

@@thenintendocyclops1074 i just beat chapter one. Loving it. I don't know if since im older I'm not as good at video games anymore or it's just that hard. I thought about going down to easy mode but f that

[@boxband22]

simple organ? okay ill keep watching now

[@ifranco0202]

I always saw the black marker as a freaky alien sex cell. And the brethren moons were the ones truly in control.

[@ChaosLordPug]

Never a dull day when it comes to wise fish :D

[@justinkoecher]

anyone else notice that nicole is sitting the same way she died at the end beside isaac

[@jogeettbr]

My headcanon is that the markers origin is from a previous universe which proceeded the big bang, so they are slightly older than the universe in my headcanon.

[@goblinbenjo4326]

Great video just one small gripe. The brain is not a simple organ, it's no exaggeration to call the human brain the most complex physical structure in the universe. EDIT: that we know of, aliens might be freaky.

[@chandlerminer6080]

Love the Roanoke gaming mention

[@TheFireFoxTribe]

So 5G towers and cellphones but big spooky monoliths got it.

[@Error-5478]

If we ever get a dead space 4. They're going to have to bring in another alien force that helps humanity. Or end humanity in completely despite Issac's efforts. Which would be a daring end because some people need a good ending to say they liked the type of media.

[@TheKeyser94]

That is not basically what happen in Dead Space 3 when Clark encounter the red moons on Earth?

[@tiberiusdawn2042]

Maybe the alien would be the precursor who made the marker and trying to save the remaining life in the Galaxy

[@Fink-id6yg]

3lb cemo'electric* anxiety machine. Roanoke gaming

[@Sarah-lb2rf]

Perhaps the markers were an attempt to create some sort of super weapon Turning enemies into allies Drop one into enemie territory and just let it do it's job And with every other attempt to create something like this we can guess how it ended

[@BrianRocksNow]

Praise Altman. He will make us whole ❤

[@epic-fictionalprojects4394]

I wouldnt call a brethren moon a necromorph. Its the original parasitic alien race. They have consciousness, they have brains. They are alive.

[@toddbata8644]

Actually the two people that killed him were people he worked with and they locked him in a room with a bruit

[@TheShowerofSlime]

Thank you for the video! And I love your content!

[@HappyDude1]

Oh you made a marker video 😁 I'm still a bit confused with the difference between a black and a red marker

[@averagepersonfrommissouri751]

Brain cells

[@solodolokai]

This comment is months old compared to the video but im new to dead space (childhood was lame). This all started from a random race of being launching a wifi booster into space and it so happens that the wifi signal drives anyone that comes into slight contact with it insane to the point of self deletion. Wow. And im just a random guy named issac trying to fight through HOURS AND HOURS of raging sharp arm’d abominations while ALSO being manipulated into doing stuff for a wifi booster. dope

[@WolfWarrior.92]

Breathing Moon: They are hungry. The are coming..... DOOMSLAYER: NO !!! Breathing Moon: OOOHH FUCK, sorry Buddy wrong Universe !!! 😅🥶☠️

[@zintosion]

Despite all Isaac had gone through, earth is still fucked.

[@sahandghasemi6654]

Ishimura needed Haloperidol . a lots of it :D

[@brandonsandberg]

yeah ship full of scizophrenia

[@MechanicalDragonfly]

I wonder if Markers are brethren moon-poops.

[@hnicstr3ma899]

Simply organ lol this guy is funny you mean the most complex organ known to man

[@Milan_Rosko]

Decades? You mean fucking centuries lol

[@Antarcticite21]

make uss wHOLEE

[@kgreen242424]

The choice to use the term "dementia" when describing the effects of the marker baffles me. I don't think the writers looked up the definition. Dementia is defined as: 1. Deterioration of intellectual faculties, such as memory, concentration, and judgment, resulting from an organic disease or a disorder of the brain. It is sometimes accompanied by emotional disturbance and personality changes. 2. An extremely low condition of the mental function; profound general mental incapacity. 3. Insanity; madness; esp. that form which consists in weakness or total loss of thought and reason; mental imbecility; idiocy. I have schizophrenia and I am very familiar with the type of behaviors displayed by the exposed. Delusions. Hallucinations. Disorganized thinking (speech). Extremely disorganized or abnormal motor behavior. Negative symptoms(For example, the person may neglect personal hygiene or appear to lack emotion). These are the symptoms of schizophrenia. Unless the words mean something other than what i understand them to mean, dementia results in a feeble individual. Whereas schizophrenia results in a low reasoning but highly motivated insane person. There are levels to delusions but they are created internally so your brain makes up whatever nonsense fact pattern beforehand it seems like. A personal example is, once i locked myself outside and instantly concluded I'm being robbed. I saw and heard no-one. My brain said, "well, you don't lock yourself outside ever. Why would you? Has to be a setup. Whoever it is, they want something and they are in the house!". If I had dementia, i most likely would have forgot about needing a key or how to turn the knob or where i am or some such. Just bothers me that with the very low public understanding of mental illness, the waters get muddied through the use of incorrect nomenclature for ascribed actions. Don't get me wrong, any visibility is helpful but could be more so.

[@bumbaclot813]

Bring some writers and directors from The Expanse and the new Last of Us and make a Dead Space show already.

[@byronjones4635]

Could the Necromorphs defeat the Flood?

[@Luxia-f1e]

imo: it really depends the stage of the flood and if the markers can effect the flood physically or mentally the flood cannot eat use dead biomass but the necros can if they start at the same time in the same place i give it to the necros just because they can whittle down the animalistic floodforms but if an equal force met later it 100% goes to the flood, theyd be too coordinated and advanced to let the markers use their advantages

[@SamiKotiranta]

These markers sound alot like Twitter or Facebook....

[@bradymalpeis4002]

6:59 dead space

[@shadowdragonx07]

suu in simple sicene terms. tis ish dead spaces vers. of the ferrmei paradox i see 🙄

[@TheIraqiforce]

We want lore on atomic hearts

[@dot2562]

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