News 8's Kyla Russell's full one-on-one interview with Delphi murderer's defense team

[@lbnaron]

Thank you defense team for doing interviews and speaking out. The public deserves to get to know these attorneys, other than what others say to disparage them. Praying for real justice in this case.

[@Willow-fs8dq]

I still am uncomfortable with what happened to RA and his conviction. I grapple with how can this be when there is so much reasonable doubt? How? As for the ISP commentator, he behaves like a puffed up man. I have always been suspicious of him, and all of the changes he perpetrated, and the interrogators of RA. It is not true justice. Injustice prevailed in this case for sure. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about L and A deaths, or the family’s grief. I too am a Mom of daughters. I too have experienced a lot of grief in my lifetime, however, truth did not win here. It simply did not.

[@ajajadama2451]

I completely agree with you and share the same feelings. True justice for Libby and Abby would be uncovering what really happened so the community can be kept safe.

[@dhudson9423]

That's exactly right. Why is it that if we believe in the innocence of RA it somehow means we do not respect the family. That is completely wrong. Of course, we feel for the family and don't want to cause them any more pain. We may not have a lot of respect for the judicial process in this case but that isn't the family's fault.

[@ajajadama2451]

​@@dhudson9423 Amen!

[@StarCat65]

The Family is involved heavily in the whole thing. (Allegedly, & IMO)

[@marthahendricks9529]

ISP completely botched this case… Nick covered for his buddies and Gull sealed the deal… this is so called justice in Indiana 🤬🤬. #justiceforrichardallen

[@sebfettel]

Indiana has disgraced the whole country with this situation. We must pray that truth and justice prevail and all traitors exposed.

[@sebfettel]

The investigation was not botched it was all done on purpose. They are not this bad at their job on accident.

[@dochdgs]

The jury convicted him.

[@marthahendricks9529]

@ without all of the facts… not justice..

[@dochdgs]

@@marthahendricks9529 what “facts”? Rumors you’ve heard that you determined are facts?

[@MercyLou22]

Convicting the wrong person is double the injustice.

[@MaureenHughes-s7b]

The compassion of Mr. Baldwin 🙏

[@lbnaron]

From the evidence I heard reported from the trial, the state did not prove that Richard Allen was “bridge guy” or that “bridge guy” was the perpetrator that the voice heard in the audio was bridge guy or who it was at all. The states theory and timeline just does not add up to me. I don’t know if Richard Allen is innocent, but I don’t feel the evidence presented in trial was beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty.

[@williamrae9954]

If you were paying attention, you'd notice the girls were not there either, Kelsi and Bre were?

[@lbnaron]

Agreed. Just another facet of the case the state did not prove.

[@LACrawfy82]

No one saw Richard Allen and more interestingly perhaps, no one identified the girls either. I wonder what's on that video. Doesn't seem like much at all.

[@AudretteK]

I listened to the juror’s interview and she said that they all felt Allen was BG

[@williamrae9954]

@AudretteK Juror's... singular, one...punctuation is important with this case,due to a high moron faction protecting the guilty(many)!

[@michelletaylor4211]

I am so thankful that RA's defense team is speaking out. They all have so much integrity, passion, and drive. God bless them.

[@AudretteK]

😂😂😂😂

[@BrendaT24]

​@AudretteK you find this funny?

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@johnnygodsey8177]

😂😂 So funny to think lil RICKY getting the CHOMO treatment clap clap them cheeks lil VICKY

[@Ieezeca]

You may not care there are child CSRAM people running free in Delphi, but some of us want to protect children. ​@AudretteK

[@rsnay]

Fran Gull, Jerry Holeman, Doug Carter, Tony Liggett, Tobe Leazenby, Nick NcCleland….you people are disgraceful! You all belong in prison.

[@jdbambara7595]

Absolutely..ditto

[@jdbambara7595]

Absolutely..ditto

[@helpmerhonda6101]

Exactly!!!

[@ElleVee1980]

Amen! I live in Indiana and I'm so ashamed and embarrassed by these people.

[@Mamabananaz69]

Yup but never happening. Notice how this interview won’t go on mainstream media and the interviewer isn’t really grasping what these 2 are saying,

[@LovingTheBrauns]

To hear the degree in which this miscarriage of injustice was carried out is shockingly disturbing. I don't know how to be calm about any of this. It's outrageous, and people need to be held accountable. THIS should NEVER happen to ANYONE!😡

[@helpmerhonda6101]

Well said! I agree 💯!

[@JugglingPumpkins]

Absolutely! The conduct of law enforcement and prosecutor is completely outrageous. There needs to be an unbiased, third-party investigating into law enforcement conduct surrounding this case.

[@ShyLow4]

It is terrifying what has been done to that man. Are you or a loved one and your state next ?

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

I can't sleep at night. I am so pissed off. That could have been me ..could have been you on the trail that day....and end up as a patsy for the state. How often is this happening? We need cameras in the courtroom in Indiana. DOC needs reform..not holding people in solitary. It's effing barbaric. And how can they use Allen's statements against him when he didn't even have the mental capacity to refuse the HALDOL shot that DOC gave him. Where is the ACLU???

[@tyamdaly]

@@JugglingPumpkins And Judge Gull

[@tammytellmetrue3333]

These attorneys bring my faithback and humanity

[@MileHighGski]

Lord please bless this defense team for speaking up about this and fighting for Rick. You can feel their anger, their justified anger.

[@lbnaron]

There’s no way to know what actually was said in those sessions with Dr. Walla. It’s more than unfortunate. There was no justice served for Abby and Libby, no justice for Rick Allen, and none for the community with this verdict

[@sebfettel]

Prominent members of the community wanted not only the murders to take place but also the case to play out exactly as it has

[@dochdgs]

@@sebfettel who are you alleging wanted two young girls murdered?

[@8202mary]

@@sebfettelEither make a statement with the facts included or dont make a cryptic statement. If you have info like that, contact the FBI, prosecutors, defense lawyers and the “judge “ and the Governor. You need to leave a long trail in this clown show of “Justice.” Enough of the hocus pocus nonsense that has been prevalent from day one of this case.

[@michelletaylor4211]

I agree. The only time RA wasn't recorded? Wala shredded her notes, supposedly.She decided she would write a summary instead!

[@Thais-x7c]

Very convenient And if the defense did anything of the sort Not admisable ​@@michelletaylor4211

[@pingu5455]

Attorneys Baldwin and Auger are fantastic. Wonderful people. I hope they get a chance to retry their case without so many limitations

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@dawnclabaugh3598]

Curious as to WHY Holeman was in the courtroom for a prolonged period of time. He wasn’t a bailiff, not an attorney and seems somehow inappropriate he would have been sitting next to/near the defendant? Witnesses don’t normally “hang out” up front… so what is “special” in this “case”. There is A reason and probably numerous, that cameras and largely, public, were excluded from what seems more and more like the Star Chamber, NOT Constitutional American jurisprudence.

[@pseudio3141]

In trials I have watched my observation has been that it is common for the lead investigator to be sitting at the prosecution table or the first rows of seats behind the prosecution table with other members of the prosecution's team, basically working alongside them throughout the entire trial. Go back and look at some old trials and if the cameras show the prosecution table and/or the prosecution team in the first few rows of seats behind the prosecution table, you will probably spot them. They might be wearing suits instead of uniform but they're there, part of the prosecution team. For example, you can see Esteban Flores sitting at the prosecution table throughout the Jodi Arias trial. This always seemed a bit odd to me because the lead investigator obviously pretty much always testifies in the trial, and they are an important witness for the prosecution because they relay to the jury most of what was done in the investigation (since they were the person who did most of the investigation or made decisions about what to do, etc). Also the jury tend to believe that they are credible. But the lead investigator gets to listen to both the prosecution and defence opening statements as well as any other witnesses who testify before they give their own testimony. That means they can tailor their testimony to what the lawyers and other witnesses have said when they take the stand. I've seen trials where the investigators get up and testify multiple times, sometimes just to answer a few questions to rebut something the defence has brought up during the cross examination of a different witness whose testimony the investigator watched and listened to because they were there in the courtroom at the prosecution table (for example, I think this happened during the Chandler Halderson trial). This does not necessarily make a trial unfair but it does seem like it gives the prosecution a unique advantage that the defence doesn't have. For example, purely hypothetically, during their opening statement the defence attorney might make an argument about some piece of evidence not being reliable because the jury will see police reports and none of the reports will contain any information that shows that the police used some specific procedures for gathering the evidence that must be done to avoid contaminating that evidence. Well, when the lead investigator gets on the stand, the prosecution might ask them questions about how they gathered that evidence and they might testify that it was gathered using those correct procedures to prevent contamination. The prosecutor might ask if they would normally document those procedures in a police report and the lead investigator might testify that no, that kind of procedure would normally never be specifically noted down in police reports, but they know how the evidence was gathered and the correct procedures were all followed. In this hypothetical, it is possible the lead investigator is lying because they know the jury will believe their account of what happened unless there is fairly direct proof to contradict their testimony. It is also possible in this hypothetical that the defence were simply making a mountain out of a molehill in their opening statements, the police gathering evidence did indeed follow all evidence gathering procedures correctly, and the procedures in question just really aren't typically documented in police reports, aka it is possible the lead investigator is testifying truthfully. But having the investigators sitting and working with the prosecution team, watching the entire trial before they testify, means the prosecution will get the slight advantage of being able to do that sort of thing to plug any holes that the defence have tried to poke in their case. That advantage could be used honestly or that advantage could be abused by a prosecutor and/or investigator who were willing to be dishonest in order to win a case. But it is a slight advantage. I don't know for sure that it is normal or legally permissible in every single state, but I think it ism I assume investigators don't attend every single trial, as they must have other commitments or cases. But I don't know of anywhere that doesn't allow them to attend trials as part of the prosecution team if they choose to. I can actually only think of one trial that I have watched where I was consciously aware that the lead investigator WASN'T sitting and working with the prosecution (there might be others where they haven't been there, but it isn't something I normally pay much attention to). And that was the Karen Read trial. And I am pretty sure the lead investigator would have been legally allowed to sit with the prosecution throughout the Karen Read trial if he had wanted to. I think it was a tactical decision by the prosecutors not to have him sitting with them throughout simply because they didn't want the jury to see disgraced lead investigator Trooper Proctor as a big part of the prosecution case or team.

[@lbnaron]

There’s are so many tragedies in this case. So much reasonable doubt without the illegal torture and pre-trial detainee treatment, which is a whole other travesty. Dr. Walla in my opinion does not have any credibility. I would have to disregard her testimony completely

[@AndymPro]

Pmsl talk about deluded 🥴🤣😂

[@deniset4]

When you are not guilty, you really don't think twice about voluntarily talking to the police. This case shows how incorrect that assumption can be. The life lesson to take away from this case it to NEVER talk to the police without an attorney present. EVER. Rick Allen told the police he was there and even offered to meet them in town at the grocery store he was on his way to in order to expedite things and make life easier on everybody. I bet he's regretting that.

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

Yes. Never talk to the police. I had to call them once for a suspicious person. I made the mistake of letting them in the house. They were eye bawling all my medical equipment for cancer and type 1 diabetes. I had needles around. 🙄🙄🙄 Just gross.

[@shellos8]

I didn't think there was ever any way the defense was going to win this case. The corruption runs deep. Real deep.

[@RumorHasIt3]

Such a great interview. I have so much respect for RA’s defense team. This case bleeds reasonable doubt with what was presented at trial. It SCREAMS innocent when you account for what was not allowed in trial. This is an unbelievable miscarriage of justice.

[@suzinaccache]

Transparency mattered, whether u believe not guilty or guilty doesn't matter, the JURY should have seen ALL the evidence, Rick had a right to a fair trial and he didnt get that.

[@s.wadesmith]

#FreeRickAllen

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

Killer Rick is about to get justice served by his fellow inmates.

[@apacheturtleisland9462]

wow... awesome interview. kudos to the defense team

[@Mama-om6cy]

Thank you Wish TV for hosting and asking great questions! I can’t shake this case from my conscience. The crime itself was so brazen and sadistic, yet the real psychopaths who perpetuated such, remain free. I hope you’ll continue to cover this obvious wrongful conviction. I have nothing nice to say about Jerry Holman and Monica Walla, and the many others who participated in this true miscarriage of justice

[@lindseyhendrix2405]

I can’t echo this comment enough!! 🎯💯

[@keepitsimple4629]

Mama, amen!

[@ladyluck0422]

This was a really great interview! Thank you to this wonderful team. Regardless of how the trial went and how anyone feels about Richard Allen we can all agree he has a wonderful team. I appreciate Kyla for her work here. Thank you!!!

[@annaraeellison3417]

This is the 2nd interview I've seen from the defense team. I am so grateful for their time and their answers. It has cleared up a lot of questions for me. I will continue to pray for all people concerned because this whole issue in the long trial has upended many lives. I am very grateful to these people for their integrity and compassion.

[@Thais-x7c]

Me too i can listen to them all day they give me faith in humanity and the comments too! They have a interview with 'Harvard Lawyer' on KZbin from last night with the third member of their team who also gleams more insight😊

[@Rather_be_in_Whoville]

I have seen 4 so far. More information coming out with each one. I am more convinced than ever something really stinks in Delphi and these girls did not get justice and the fight to prove that needs heard in another court in another county far from there.

[@tammymartin880]

@@Rather_be_in_Whoville Agree! Allen County Judge + Allen County Jurors = NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!

[@serenity-meow]

Balwin and Auger are authetic people. They can answer everything confidently and off the cuff. It's logical and paints a clear picture of the injustices done in this case. This tells me everything I need to know. The State should be ashamed of their case and what they didn't permit!

[@Beezojones]

Holeman and Carter are a disgrace to their badges.And an embarrassment to the state of Indiana .Carter needs to hurry up and retire🎉Retire Riddler !! And Holeman needs to step down and leave LE he is no good at investigating or even being an adult

[@Saritabanana]

IKTR Holeman has the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old and I’ll give him a bit of a compliment here as that he has the mental intelligence of an 8 year old. Yes I’m being petty but I’m also right🎉

[@akaRadar]

& if the Governor is planning to appoint JH to replace DC... he better hold a public vote! Because it's a Hard NO @EricHolcomb & SHAME in You!!! @AGToddRokita 💯😠

[@michaeltreacy6356]

Rumor has it that Doug wants to run for governor now.

[@Saritabanana]

@@michaeltreacy6356 He must keep his circle of who he listens to and the media he consumes embarrassingly small to think that would be a good idea, but this is typical for individuals as egocentric himself. But then again our country/states/towns are ran by a lotta dummies. A good portion of our society are easily schmoozed by conmen as that juror was.

[@donsteinberger1785]

DC recently retired. He's probably working on his memoirs now. Stay tuned for "Many Tentacles (One Guy did it )"

[@rediviva]

The defense attorneys have so much integrity - thank you for doing this interview with them so the public can hear some of the things that the jurors may not have.

[@emmalouiseavis1510]

Thank you WISH for this interview. Excellent! Following the case closely from England 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

Thank you! Please keep commenting and sharing. Don't let this case get covered up. It matters to every American.

[@WhyULie4]

Free Rick Allen !!!!! I honestly can not believe that the State /Brotherhood / Good Ol Boys are getting away with this . We should all be scared

[@SaraWoodsss]

#arrestthemall & #FreeRichardAllen 🙏🏻

[@Elizabeth_K24]

The investigors need investigated. State actors, the judge, prison employees, and third parties need investigated. Those that lied under oath should be prosecuted. The office of the prosecution intentionally sending this defense team extremely disorganized evidence to cause difficulty and delay is sabotage and clearly shows their lack of confidence in a very weak case and their fear of very competent defense counsel questioning their narrative. All the secrecy of the investigation and trial would not have been necessary if LE and the state were acting ethically, and if the investigation could stand on its own merits. It couldn't, they didn't. These attorneys have been mistreated, threatened, played with, and abused for defending a man they believe is actually innocent, who was abused and isolated to the point of psychosis in order for the prosecution to obtain confessions from him that they couldn't otherwise obtain. If you can't properly investigate a case and prosecute it legitimately without abuse and suppression, don't prosecute.

[@christinaeldero6640]

Very well said!!!

[@kathleenr9109]

Happy to see this team so speaking out.

[@5catsANDcounting]

When they arrested Rick, there was a press conference afterwards and they stated they were leaving the tip line open because they thought there could be more people. I hoped they had more on him after reading the PCA, they in fact had nothing more and only got what they needed after they had him tortured. Creating more victims in the name of justice, how sad!

[@akaRadar]

and yet the Tipline is Still Open... so they KNOW Killers are walking the streets! Shame on them all!

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@davidclayton3831]

Baldwin and rozzi. Hold your heads up high. You went above and beyond for Richard Allen. The math dont math and anyone with a modicum of common sense can see it. God bless you and your team🙏

[@joann5075]

FACTS ✨💯❤

[@davidclayton3831]

❤👍💯​@joann5075

[@staceyfontenot656]

Thank you to the defense team. This case was not fair. I’m shocked that this judge could be so biased. It was obvious that she hated the defense and kept cameras out of the courtroom to cover up her bias.

[@EstherHahn-w7x]

Ty for speaking out on this case ! 😢I’m just still so sad For Richard and Kathy! The world May be watching but we need to do something!!! Free Richard Allen!!! 🎉

[@msboncat1959]

There are way too many questions that need to be answered on this case. This case does need to be retried with Mr. Allen's defense team being able to present all of their evidence.

[@budbundy4014]

Ric admitted to killing Abby and Libby 61 times. If you still have questions then you are beyond help

[@adamthompson812]

Is everyone forgetting that Nick said in court that the (state) believed their were other actors to get the safe keeping and gag order extended

[@BenPat88]

Just like the sketches and the cell phone location data, this info was memory holed by trash media, pro-prosecution “journalists” and a corrupt “justice” system. Shame on them all!

[@sebfettel]

Really?

[@joann5075]

OMG!! NO!!! When!?!

[@Demon1800e]

​@@sebfettelya why they sealed the PCA

[@Free_Ricky_Bae]

He did. But then bc he had “no evidence” of “other actors” he shifted & said Rick was a lone wolf. Bullshit every way you slice it!

[@Saritabanana]

Well done, Kyla! Great interview with this incredible defense team.

[@iwiall59]

A white van was parked at Weber's in the news chopper aerial video during the search on the 14th. There was nothing in the "confession" that Wala didn't already know.

[@OddStructure76]

Yep. It was a flat out lie in court. According to the juror. It's kinda what they convicted him on. A LIE.

[@williamrae9954]

A black Ford Focus is also in the footage, just north of the Freedom Bridge ,partially hidden...Mullin lied!

[@Holly_Fae]

@@williamrae9954 Rod Abrams owned a black ford focus in 2017. I don't know if he still owns it. He is friends with Elvis Fields, changed his appearance before meeting with LE. Shaved beard and died hair brown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iImqe4eunZdmrc0

[@akaRadar]

​@@williamrae9954the lyin part isn't a surprise...👍... but may i ask how ur so certain abt a car hun? (not saying i don't believe you!!) just inquiring! i stink at making out vehicles... :/ lol...

[@akaRadar]

💯💯💯

[@lindseyhauk4140]

I am devastated for Rick. I do feel real justice will happen eventually. Unfortunately, they have the wrong guy.

[@Beyatchenator]

Please keep commenting and sharing. Don't let this case get covered up. #FreeRickAllen

[@islesofshoals3551]

"The Murder Sheet" has a podcast interviewing one of the jurors. Let me just say that I am very concerned about jurors in this country

[@OddStructure76]

I've very concerned about Carroll county bailiffs getting chummy with jurors and telling them endearing stories about the prosecutor. How is that not jury tampering???

[@lesliefortie8347]

@@OddStructure76 And Judge Gull debriefing the jury every day without counsel. Even if she was just saying thank you and have a good night, that would be improper.

[@JugglingPumpkins]

That podcast cannot be trusted to deliver anything resembling honest reporting. They have been caught colluding with Jerry Holeman and receiving LEAKED information from LE on numerous occasions. While at the same time using their platform to lie, dox, threaten, and attempt to shame researchers and commentators who have become suspicious of the actions of prominent law enforcement figures surrounding this case. I am not commenting on the juror. Only the integrity of the hosts of that podcast.

[@estrella5935]

Apparently the jurors lacked and common sense.

[@Mamabananaz69]

Yea it’s terrifying MORE terrifying is the amount of people who just go by what the news says and consider people guilty. Imagine being sentenced 130 years for a murder you DID NOT DO and loose everything.

[@Amanda-Marie674]

I think it’s easy for the public to put their trust and faith in the prosecution. It’s easy for the victims families at a time of complete vulnerability to fall in line with the state and follow them blindly. Look, the families have no one else to trust. They have no choice. There’s not one person on this earth that’s going to try and drop evidence that the state is not feeding them on their front door step. No one is going to say, “hey, do you think things are really as they seem here”. Then you have an entire community that wants to protect the victims. For the public and everyone else, it’s so easy to just take the trial at face value and not have to question why rulings in the trial disabled the defense from presenting evidence that would have saved their client. It’s easy to believe the state knew they had/have the right guy. People don’t want to believe that the state makes mistakes. In this case, if you read between the lines and you are willing to dissect the evidence that was restricted from the trial, there is SO much overwhelming evidence that eliminates RA from the murders. Headphones plugging into and out of the cell phone at various times…. That’s just one piece of evidence that the defense was able to present because it was in the prosecutions report at trial. Anything and I mean anything that was brought up in trial by the defense was evidence dissected from the prosecutions reports. If the prosecution did not submit a piece of evidence into the trial, it wasn’t allowed. The defense had a ton of evidence that the judge said, nope, not having it. That’s not right. That’s not a balanced and fair trial. Everyone needs to take a giant step back and say to themselves ok, let’s start there. Let’s analyze the franks doc and read the state’s and FBI’s evidence and expert analysis that was in the initial investigation (wasn’t allowed in court). Once a person analyzes and evaluates that and all of that evidence that’s floating around on Reddit, you realize that the system done everything in their power to disable not only the trial but the entire investigation. It’s hard to digest. It’s rough but it’s clear the state had their own objective and it wasn’t and it’s not to solve this crime. I want justice for Abby and Libby and this is not it. I don’t want to see this crime on replay, ever. This was not a crime of convenience. Period. No way. Here’s something else I want to add… there are occult, extremist groups all over the United States. You don’t have to believe that but I’m putting a link of a map of them below. Go ahead and type Indiana in the map search bar. Carroll County is on there. There are independent organizations out there that do nothing but dedicate their time and work to get these individuals arrested and prosecuted. Why? Because our gov can’t handle the responsibility, pressure, backlash, and authority associated with bringing a group of extremist individuals to justice. The groups have nothing to lose and they will use violence to protect their “religion” as Holeman so well calls and defends it. Copy and paste that link below for a map. Educate yourself. www.splcenter.org/hate-map

[@dorjerd8119]

Thank you so much!

[@sebfettel]

Unfortunately, in this case, the family may not be trustworthy. I think people would be absolutely shocked to the core to learn what they know and publicly promised not to tell. There are some extremely evil untrustworthy people surrounding this case.

[@GreenEyedGirl008]

Great Post!! … and agree 💯.

[@pseudio3141]

Well said.

[@MichealKrebs]

I believe in my heart RA did not commit the crime of these girls. Abby and Libby needs true justice. RIP Abby and Libby 😢

[@jsnmota220]

Dr wala statements can’t be trusted. She could have fed all of that info. She was in all these true crime groups commenting. The can was not something only the killer would know. This was discussed in online forums in 2017

[@GibboFrank]

They didn't know about the van until Allen brought it up 😂😂😂

[@jsnmota220]

@ that’s not true. There’s documented posts of this being discussed years before. Educate yourself

[@akaRadar]

💯💯💯

[@akaRadar]

VAN was discussed immediately!... Private groups were set up as early as 2017-2018 JUST for Van info! liars gonna LIE.. Right Jerry? & Pinoccgibbo! 🤥 🤥🤥🤥

[@dhernandez4386]

@@GibboFrankthat’s a lie. It was on Reddit a few months before in the Delphi forums. I couldn’t take her word for anything. I’m all for maybe Rick did it. But not for the bullshit.

[@Tereselynn]

I really respect & appreciate Richard Allens attorneys are speaking out & leaving us hints (reading between the lines) what the real truth is! I feel this defense team knows in their hearts that the skeletons will come out of the closet, that eventually we will find out WHO really did this! And WHO is responsible!! Poor Andy NEVER deserved what was thrown at him!

[@dawnclabaugh3598]

Mr Baldwin, there are a LOT of us in Indiana who care. We’re being blatantly ignored as well … for now. Criminals in high places.

[@Charm_free]

These are such lovely people with very generous hearts. Thank God there are good people working hard for justice. I hope Mrs. Allen understands the whole world stands with her and their family. The facade will be dismantled, truth will come out & hopefully there will be a safer, more secure Delphi when the focus is finally on the real perpetrators. I was so sad when I read the transcripts of the interview with the 1st juror. These attorneys proved time and time again, LE outright lied on the stand. There is no such thing as a small lie, period.

[@DuckinFeloniez]

About Richard Allen’s eyes…. It’s an adverse side effect of the involuntary Haldol injections. It’s called Oculogyric Crisis.

[@ambere5370]

This is a great interview - very informative!

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

Please keep speaking Defense team. This could have been any American! Any American could have been a patsy for the ISP and Delphi PD. This case needs solved...not just for Abby and Libby...which is reason enough....but also for Richard Allen...and for every single American. This is NOT how we do justice in Indiana. From no safe keeping hearing. To housing RA in solitary for nearly two years. To all the secrecy. To this Judge not allowing a third party defense. This entire thing is a SHAM and so unethical.

[@markbrown1609]

attacking the defense team equals a weak case, simple math.

[@GibboFrank]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Maryanne55]

Please never let your guard down, I do not trust any of them to not cause harm to any of you to silence you.. I have respect for all you have done.

[@tuwanafarnworth1281]

@@Maryanne55 would you believe me if I told you I was followed from 65N /Delphi exit from a gas station via restaurant ? I was in a rental car and stopped there for 40 minutes in their parking lot to freshen up and I had Wisconsin plates due to it being a rental car. An older black Chevy pickup followed me for a very long time. So this is not made up! You are right to be careful

[@Maryanne55]

@ I heard their were approximately 20 plus people that has died relating to this case.

[@MarR310]

Thanks Andy and Jennifer 👍

[@myaliasnameis]

Thank you for fighting for justice and helping this innocent man to the best of your ability. What happened is a travesty and a stain on the state of Indiana.

[@truthtransparency]

I love Andy asking her if she asked the DOC. And hey Nick you dropped the ball. You should have asked to move the camera for the crime scene photos.. that is on YOU NICK! Not the defense. So now we can all rest and see that the victims families have misplaced their distain.

[@akaRadar]

💯👍

[@Beezojones]

This defense team is very professional and greatly devoted to their client who anyone with half a brain knows is a 100 percent innocent can't wait for the appeal keep fighting the good fight guys we love ya

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@PinkQuartz1111]

Thank you Ms.Russell in interviewing the honest defense team. I am a firm believer that the lies will continue to be revealed. As a person neutral to both sides, I believe many people will not want to hear nor believe the unraveling of the lies.

[@OddStructure76]

Chief Lamar resigning this week has caused a lot of eyes to turn the other law enforcement in Delphi.

[@sj01]

In my opinion, Carter also has the same build and face type as BG.

[@dorjerd8119]

: )!

[@Innerdreamer]

100% agree! There is a podcast but I can’t find it now that has done GREAT work on this case.. She had found that he was related to one of the original people that they were looking into!

[@Jae-g9g]

@@Innerdreamerthere are many channels, under 10k who did the real work unlike this interviewer and other MS media

[@FaithRoss2817]

First time I ever seen the video and 1st pic I thought it WAS him and was confused why he was talking about himself. All the many years later I still think it's him.

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

My deceased dad looks like BG. Nearly every man in IN looks like him. And yet there is zero proof that bridge but even did this. What if he just photo bombed the video.

[@tad1428]

Just know that we love, respect & support you Mr. Baldwin, Ms. Auger & Mr. Rozzi

[@StreetMinistry]

Great interview. Praying for justice for Rick Allan.

[@justicejane2429]

Just was Served for Abby and Detective Libby

[@NeedToKnow1947]

Everyone should be terrified of what this court and police were able to do unchallenged.

[@VtooSmooth]

It is super scary. It's like nobody cares...I don't think ppl really know what occurred.

[@Jae-g9g]

We need to have an IQ test for jurors based on the interview I heard with one of them. May the Lord have mercy on the Jury for the grave sin they committed

[@GreenEyedGirl008]

Go into a place like a Super Walmart (located in a ‘not so great’ area of the city that you live in) around 6pm on a Saturday & spend a good hour people watching. Then, just imagine that 12 people from those whom you observed would be selected to hold your life in their hands. The concept of being judged by a jury of your peers - unfortunately, this has fallen apart over the last few decades (…in my opinion). The ratio of people that exist in your specific county that could/would truly qualify as your peers vs. those that don’t have a clue what’s really going on all around them - it’s too scary to acknowledge.

[@Jae-g9g]

@ beautifully stated

[@KaileyB616]

SERIOUSLY THOUGH. Dear God that was so depressing.... but I guess after hearing how dumb the jurors were in the Karen Read trial, I really shouldn't be surprised

[@GreenEyedGirl008]

@ Ha! I followed the KR case as well, I’m personally very invested in LE & our Judicial System reform. So, when I’m made aware of a case in any U.S. state where it’s believed that a U.S. citizen’s rights have been/are being violated (in the many manners this can take place & from police officers to jail employees to the DOC - then the judge & the prosecution team) I dig deep. There’s a big issue w/the lack of judicial oversight in our country, which just adds insult to injury. I’m so glad that today, more than ever, there are cameras in the courtrooms & interested Americans can see w/their own eyes how bad much of this can be.

[@Jae-g9g]

@ and you need to platform. Thank you

[@kendellb5757]

We need justice for Richard Allen and Abby and Libby bc their murderers are still out there. The world is watching delphi and we won’t stop till accountability is held

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@ElleVee1980]

This needs more views. Thank you Baldwin, Auger and Rozzi for being stand up individuals even though your hands were tied and you had to watch an innocent person be railroaded.

[@Alexcox-0718]

Thank you for your interview with Lawyer Lee. I cannot imagine saying Richard Allen is guilty.

[@JugglingPumpkins]

Bring on the appeal!!! If there’s any justice, this conviction will be overturned.

[@justicejane2429]

It won't be

[@akaRadar]

Amen! #FreeRickAllen #TrueJusticeForAbbyAndLibby

[@Beezojones]

We all want this case solved and you guys are the ones to do it and all of us out here in social media land are here for you with almost 8 years of stuff to look at

[@Wildirishmanbiker]

Great to hear from his defense. So many conflictual evidenciary in this case. Hope this gets appealed and they find the real killer for these two young ladies

[@jswope1475]

Thank you for having this conversation. I don’t think your reports during the trial were fair and balanced. Until today’s interview I have been very unimpressed. Today was professional and fair. Thank you for doing this.

[@Scorpion-np8gk]

Thank you for giving the defence team an opportunity to speak. I hope one day there’s true justice for these two girls. If it is Richard Allen (and I doubt it is) then convict him fairly and allow him to actually meaningfully defend himself. I don’t know how judge Gull or these police can sleep at night knowing they lied, manipulated evidence and then stacked the deck against this man.

[@anitac2011]

Satan never sleeps

[@SmileyRose-h8i]

This gentleman Andy Baldwin presents so well. This hurts his heart. I feel for him. We stand behind you Mr. Baldwin!!!

[@k.l.hollister8128]

I think it’s very important work these defense lawyers are doing by coming out and having real interviews about this case. Rarely do we hear the other side of these cases. LE and prosecutors are in the media all the time and I admit, I used to be one of those people who trusted what the prosecution and LE said. I now know, thanks to defense lawyer podcasts, KZbin videos and interviews with defense lawyers as real people talking about their experiences, that there are always two sides and people need to remember that we are presumed innocent until proven guilty no matter what the media or one side says. So thank you for this and I hope you keep speaking out. I will do my part and share this everywhere I can.

[@shirleylegare7899]

this great grand mother can't thank you enough for speaking out and telling the truth. you are a brave team and highly respected for helping to expose the travesty of justice. what l e did to r a is sickening but the harm that was done in bringing a person (s) to justice for abby and libbie breaks my heart. THIS TYPE OF JUSTICE IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE......IT MUST BE STOPPED !!!!!!!!!!

[@Holly_Fae]

Andy, Brad and Jennifer are 3 very honest people with integrity. More so than Gull and the ISP. There is an innocent man in prison right now and some very dangerous individuals free to kill again. And they will. Sleep well Indiana.

[@ElderMidwestMillenial]

Kyla you did a great job through the trial. Thank you for all your hard work! I do hope you and your team will dig into some of the things we've seen happen regarding the court system, the DOC, etc!

[@NancyDrew1011-fh6fb]

There is hope! And thank you to the defense for speaking. I especially like how you three work together with good chemistry! We will not stop until we get the truth! We the people!🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@DuckinFeloniez]

Thank you for interviewing these wonderful people. #freerickallen

[@CornerPiece13]

So glad the defense decided to speak out 👏👏

[@ac703]

Yeah come on Journalist need to do their jobs!!!!! Come on look into all this!

[@Pottawattamie]

Paul Etter case should be reviewed they took his DNA for Delphi. He too took his own life when cornered by LE did he shoot himself twice?

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

Doug Carter's comments in the press conference were disgraceful. Not to mention insane.

[@Christy-.]

God bless you both. Thank you for standing up for an INNOCENT man ! #FreeRichardAllen #RichardAllenIsInnocent #JerryHolemanIsADisgrace

[@AMYV3]

The Defence team are my hero’s !! to go against corruption is a big deal. the death threats, horrific treatment from the corrupt judge prosecution and police. if you don’t believe Richard is innocent YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED !! we support you Richard and your beautiful family and the defence team ❤️🇨🇦

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

LOL

[@thechronicillnessdiaries2773]

If you see this video, I beg you to keep talking about this case everywhere. Start a KZbin channel and talk about it. Share on all social media platforms. Keep the heat on the ISP, Delphi PD, and the Department of Corrections.

[@tuwanafarnworth1281]

@@thechronicillnessdiaries2773 I wonder if people realize that the reason the Jan Binet case was brought back up was to get the attention off of Richard Allen? It shows the concern that the State of Indiana is not on those 3 little dead girls. It’s all about media and they want to hide! Does anyone else see this???

[@stephenklugewicz2714]

Good luck with that. 😂

[@Bron-z6j]

Rick's defense team rocks.

[@lilg2300]

Great lawyers! I pray for Richard Allen, the third victim in this sad story.

[@Nature_luv82]

Ohhhh Andy my do I want to say how amazing you are!! You too Jennifer!! You are my absolute favorite hero’s of indiana

[@focusintegrity8490]

Thank you Channel 8!

[@cyndib3587]

The Mur der Sheet did an interview of an RA juror! Link in their 'about' section here to their web page. Truth and Transparency did a review and commentary of the interview video (which was edited!). Polaroid camera? Giggling. Was expecting Odi nism to be discussed. Broke into 4 groups for deliberations! 8:4 then 9:3 shortly after. I'm sure appeal and defense attorneys and teams are all over this cuz it's a great starting point of the sh1t show! Unbelieveable!

[@GrannyGooseOnYouTube]

The title of this video should be changed from "The Delphi murderer's defense team" to "The defense team of The man convicted in the Delphi murders."

[@joann5075]

These Attorneys bring back my Faith in Humanity!!! What a complete Disgrace The Jury was to RA!!!! Law Enforcement The Judge and the DA as well. I thought the Karen Read case was Bad!!! This case blows that out of the water!!! ❤

[@dhudson9423]

IT WOULD BE REALLY SHOCKING IF A JOURNALIST EVER DID ANY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING!! DO THEY EVEN EXIST ANYMORE? probably not

[@Roxwins]

Yeah. I don’t believe she’s tried to talk to anyone at the IDOC. If she did why hasn’t she reported that either IDOC has declined to comment or had denied the defense’s allegations are completely false? Or that she’s been completely shut out?

[@dhudson9423]

@@Roxwins Exactly

[@olgakipke3720]

Michelle after Dark is great too.

[@tuwanafarnworth1281]

I agree!

[@circus-music-]

I appreciate these attorneys ♥️

[@samanthaj317]

Baldwin is a incredible, honest, ethical man who has integrity! I really respect him! & shame on the prosecutor & ISP saying untruthful gross things about them. I think eyes 👀 should be turned on them & their shady shenanigans!

[@tuwanafarnworth1281]

Thank you so much for this interview! It’s really appreciated. We the people know Richard Allen’s constitutional rights have been violated alongside border line torture almost could be counted in with Hitler’s mistreatment of many others. We as Americans are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but we all know this wasn’t the case here. This is showing the unfairness that’s happening here in our nation. We the People as so very sorry for the actions and abuse of our Country. Who do we tell? Who do we trust to handle things righteously?

[@sgadomski17]

Richard Allen should be free let his side be heard

[@Beezojones]

Nick m.gave the crime scene photos to his utube goons and they leaked them bottom of ine