Witcher 4: Ciri Is Basically Superwoman...

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Spell&Shield

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@MrHardcoreMode
@MrHardcoreMode 11 күн бұрын
I think the father in that trailer gave her the coin. When the one man says "who's coin did you take?" The father lowered his head
@damned0wl
@damned0wl 11 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's what I got too. And it adds new meaning to his "Forgive me, daughter, 'twas my only choice"
@ddt6
@ddt6 11 күн бұрын
Yes, I think as well. Also, his "we failed" look at Ciri when his daughter died.
@JGD199
@JGD199 11 күн бұрын
Awesome. This cleared up so many questions for me relevant to this Spell & Shield Video. The entire time I was listening to his discussion on the merits of Ciri being the next protagonist, I was thinking to myself “Who the hell gave Ciri the coin? Did she do it for free?” It was 100% driving me crazy
@justaquietpeacfuldance
@justaquietpeacfuldance 11 күн бұрын
The reason why Ciri will suck as a Witcher is that you cannot tell a story about masculinity, being isolated, shunned by society and stoicism with a pretty looking female as a lead in this setting. Those are overarching topics of the books AND games and you as a fan think that's all by accident? That they just forgot to mention the fact that women can become witchers too? Nah, those were the dynamics of the universe and topics and themes and atmosphere.
@damned0wl
@damned0wl 11 күн бұрын
@@justaquietpeacfuldance did you skip the parts of the books that had Ciri as the protagonist, facing challenges and pressures that come with growing into a young woman, as well as her heritage? The story was never JUST about masculinity. I agree that the themes you mentioned are very important, but they are not the ONLY important themes, and having a male protagonist is not the only way to convey them either. There are stories of manhood to be told through other characters. There is understanding to be gained through seeing a woman step into a male role and experience hardships usually reserved for men. And there is opportunity to demystify women to a male audience by having a well-written, human female lead. Of course, all of that depends on actually having good writing. I understand having concerns, given how many badly-written Strong Female Leads(TM) there are in media in general, but I think CDPR's record when it comes to writing varrants at least a "let's wait and see".
@thenightwalker7084
@thenightwalker7084 11 күн бұрын
If she hasn't lost her Elder Blood powers then why doesn't she use her teleportation powers anymore? And why would she go through the mutations? It's puzzling.
@PxNxWxGxW
@PxNxWxGxW 11 күн бұрын
I'm sure we will find out.
@DIOronniejamesDIO
@DIOronniejamesDIO 11 күн бұрын
Plot contrivance most likely. I seem to remember Ciri being the empress of nilfgaard at the end of W3.
@Knight-In-Green
@Knight-In-Green 11 күн бұрын
That's one of the points, exactly. It would/could have been interesting seeing her employ a mixture of Witcher TRAINING and Elder Blood powers, and explore how that might make the job of Witcher either harder or perhaps even easier. But naaaah... they went full Karen on this instead, and stacked her up with more power so they don't have to put too much thought into a new combat formula.. I hate these people.
@HandyDandy6
@HandyDandy6 11 күн бұрын
​@@DIOronniejamesDIOthere is multiple endings
@lum1notryc828
@lum1notryc828 11 күн бұрын
Almost like the game will explain it
@jeremyhedden6533
@jeremyhedden6533 11 күн бұрын
I would liked a Witcher game where you start as a child and then go through the trials to become a Witcher. Then this game can be a 4 part series or more.
@sabsinoname
@sabsinoname 11 күн бұрын
No, i dont like to Play a Child! I Even didnt like it in god of war!
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 11 күн бұрын
@@sabsinoname that's not exactly what this person meant, that part of the story can be a simple cinematic, but what this person is saying is they choose who they want to be from the beginning like you can in cyberpunk or any other RPG game that allows that customization.
@sabsinoname
@sabsinoname 11 күн бұрын
@@5226-p1e ok, yes this would be ok! I Hope they dont mess this up 😪🙏🏻 i love that Game! Even the Books… please no netflix witcher 😄🤦🏻‍♀️
@jebediahrage8273
@jebediahrage8273 11 күн бұрын
​@@5226-p1e Everything's about taking things out of context to promote "the message", unfortunately.
@noctoi
@noctoi 11 күн бұрын
This! Kind of like the Ciri intro in Witcher 3. I could even deal with a female Witcher if they introduced the Cat or Manticore schools, it would be (barely but still relevant to) canon. I think it'd be kind of cool to know the background of the custom Witcher. What I absolutely do NOT want is a character that's canonically a demigod in her own right, fluffing around struggling to kill the most basic of monsters AFTER her in game and on-screen (because I'm sure this is a continuation of the SERIES not just the games) god tier power-up. I think it would have been awesome if we could have chosen our Witcher kiddo from a small selection of pre-made kids, watched them grow through a tutorial montage, and then done an adult appearance tweak when the game cuts to the player character as an adult getting ready for some kind of mission or function. Don't get me wrong, I love Ciri, but I'd have preferred ANYTHING to this advertised game concept 😩
@malusdarkblade3234
@malusdarkblade3234 11 күн бұрын
I agree with most of your points, also, my Geralt is retired and my Ciri is Empress (where she could do more good and save more lives in a day than in a whole life as a witcher, btw). I didn't want to play as either of them. Why couldnt they start fresh with a new character instead of canonizing one of endings and invalidating the stories and choices of a big percentage of the players. It just feels bad. I'm tired, boss...
@JGD199
@JGD199 11 күн бұрын
Agreed. Both their stories should’ve been done. However it’s easier for CDPR to reuse Ciri and less work for them rather than write an entirely new character. It’s a shame too. I also did Empress ending because why the f*** would Ciri become a lowly Witcher lol? She was destined for much greater things than that. But I get that it’s one of the endings for her. However I believe both Geralt & Ciri’s stories had concluded
@thehairybfg
@thehairybfg 11 күн бұрын
@@JGD199 Also, Vesemir and Geralt would never submit anyone, male or female, to the Trials of the Grasses, because of how bad it was. It'd mean a death sentence for adult Ciri to even try.
@Csatadi
@Csatadi 11 күн бұрын
@@thehairybfg If Geralt is Ciri's witcher tutor, her medallion should be a wolf, too.
@iliboxic7586
@iliboxic7586 11 күн бұрын
Geralt wanting Ciri to be an unhappy Empress and sending her to her horrible father is totally out of character. Fortunately the right ending is canon now.
@Rickus316
@Rickus316 9 күн бұрын
Same - they are using ciri so they can do a female Witcher, literally the only reason they are doing it
@Nelo_Wolf
@Nelo_Wolf 11 күн бұрын
I wouldn't mind a custom witcher mentored by geralt
@sneslive1556
@sneslive1556 11 күн бұрын
I'd rather the game not be a sequel to the first three and have it take place earlier in the timeline when the world had more monsters and therefore more witchers. Then a create a character makes sense.
@Yadlina
@Yadlina 11 күн бұрын
i wouldnt mind a good looking ciri with a character similiarly to w3.
@JollyMoonerRespectorofWomen
@JollyMoonerRespectorofWomen 11 күн бұрын
A custom Witcher, with the character of a pile of compost.
@1theprince1
@1theprince1 11 күн бұрын
Better yet, a secret son from a random sorceress he banged who managed to render him fertile through some secret spell. Taken and trained by Ciri and her new school. I mean, it's always been fanfic, so why not at this point, lore means jacksht anyway.
@franciscor390
@franciscor390 11 күн бұрын
That would have been the perfect choice.
@raketensven3127
@raketensven3127 11 күн бұрын
For me, Ciri's story was kind of over too in W3, but yea they made my game choices obsolete since one specific ending is now canon.
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 10 күн бұрын
Ciri deserves her own DMC/Bayonetta style games.
@ed61730
@ed61730 11 күн бұрын
TBF ciri is like the strongest character in w3 as well.
@jurandspychow3766
@jurandspychow3766 11 күн бұрын
Master mirror is the only being beyond her. Maybe that old vampire was stronger than ciri too.
@ed61730
@ed61730 11 күн бұрын
@@jurandspychow3766 She da goat then! I also think it's interesting that everyone assumes that CDPR didn't consult Andrzej Sapkowski about how to make ciri.
@Spectacular769
@Spectacular769 11 күн бұрын
At least, in W3, she's inexperienced, so Geralt has some wisdom to offer and things to teach her. Mary Sue Ciri is older, and will likely be written as to have no flaws at all, not even character flaws like inexperience.
@ed61730
@ed61730 11 күн бұрын
@@Spectacular769 You have no idea if its true though... we don't know when Geralt meets her in the new games and when se starts getting new powers. Stop talking like you've played the game. Maybe she loses her memory like Geralt did and needs to get her powers back hence why she isn't and strong You do not know if Andrzej Sapkowski advised to write Ciri this way.
@ed61730
@ed61730 11 күн бұрын
@@Spectacular769 Also Geralt was written to be flawed from the start.. the fact that Ciri couldn't save the girl in the trailer showed her flaws... otherwise she would have told her to hide in the woods.
@kowaikokoro
@kowaikokoro 11 күн бұрын
Ciri:dash, leaps dimensions and oneshots monsters Ciri:witcher, pops potions and struggles against lvl 1 hag 😂😂😂😂😂
@SgtHodl
@SgtHodl 11 күн бұрын
@@kowaikokoro Ciri defeated the White Frost easier than a lvl 9 hag 🙄 CDPR are clowns
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 11 күн бұрын
@@SgtHodlI’m really feeling that I feel CDPR should have simply just side stepped continuing after Witcher 3 and just made Vesemir prequel story From the anime adaption they made throw in a bunch more contracts and ancient monsters and boom easy money printer Heck maybe throw in different school narratives as well
@hamizanyunos1502
@hamizanyunos1502 11 күн бұрын
Just like how Kratos can kill entire gods but can be harmed by normal skeleton warriors
@abrahamkresnik9726
@abrahamkresnik9726 11 күн бұрын
What if she couldn't use her powers cuz her magic would have been sensed by the existing members of the Wild Hunt?
@duckonquack6969
@duckonquack6969 11 күн бұрын
@tylerulfmann4586 that was my preference as well. That said ciri is cool too just hope that do it well
@subzer0pl
@subzer0pl 11 күн бұрын
Originally, The Witcher 1 was supposed to feature a custom Witcher instead of Geralt, which made sense given the plot of the books. Eventually, this idea was abandoned, and Geralt was brought to life, which turned out to be a good decision. However, now that the Geralt trilogy has concluded, I was hoping for a return of the original idea. Unfortunately, CD Projekt failed to meet my expectations.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 11 күн бұрын
There's a reason they went for Geralt instead of character creation, no?
@subzer0pl
@subzer0pl 11 күн бұрын
@@moonknightishMainly because of Geralt's great personality. Something Ciri doesn't have.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 11 күн бұрын
​@@subzer0pl Ciri has a different personality than Geralt. Which will allow to tackle on situations with a different POV.
@subzer0pl
@subzer0pl 11 күн бұрын
@@moonknightish This is true, however, I'm not convinced that she has the personality to become a likeable heroine like Geralt. For me, in both the books and W3, she was not that kind of character. She's an interesting side character, and that's it. Making Ciri into a forced 'true' Witcher, when she is quite a unique character, is plainly stupid. We don't have to agree. A custom Witcher could be chosen from different Witcher schools, each offering a unique intro (similar to Dragon Age Origins) and creating opportunities for diverse builds without having an overly overpowered character like Ciri. I prefer more role-playing options, as a new character would essentially be a blank slate, unlike a pre-existing character, whom I cannot mold to my will as freely as someone entirely new.
@Ludydobry
@Ludydobry 11 күн бұрын
@@moonknightish we dont want trashy lezbo woke personality characters
@implustration4828
@implustration4828 11 күн бұрын
Honestly i don't really mind ciri.. What bothers me is that she's a witcher.. How when where and why?? I honestly thought she would take the title of witcher but not an actual witcher instead she would use her elder powers... A pseudo witcher... I thought the method of the trial of grasses got lost??
@alexduraev
@alexduraev 11 күн бұрын
Even if it wasn’t - the technology of mutation is designed for male body. And given that Ciri is already a skilled fencer and potent sorcerer - why mutate her and what matters most, why would she choose it?
@editorrbr2107
@editorrbr2107 11 күн бұрын
Remember when Ciri spent years on the run, got the hell beat out of her by just about everything, had a lot of emotional immaturity, was a decent sword for a layperson but obviously not immersed in combat for decades, and needed the help of others to avoid death or capture - while also being the most powerful person on the planet? I have no idea how they’re going to nerf the elder blood and make her even more powerful. But they will.
@quacktuber1051
@quacktuber1051 11 күн бұрын
"Ciri deserved her own story". Uhm, "Deserves got nothing to do with it" - Unforgiven.
@joseortizreflects
@joseortizreflects 11 күн бұрын
The problem with Mary Sues is not that they are powerful, it is simply that they behave like jerks (remember Ray slapping Finn's hand because he wanted to be gentlemanly?), *that's* the problem, not that they are powerful. There are plenty of male "Garry Stews" in the market like basically all Assassins in the Assassin's Creed series, Batman in the Arkham series, any first person shooter character, all of which are extremely powerful characters, adept on all forms of martial arts and weapons and able to drive all types of vehicles that are at the same time highly beloved characters, but why is that? The reason is because all of these characters have redeemable qualities that make them likeable and at times even relatable. See James Bond, for example. Bond originally was a character that would make a lot of remarks that would be considered misogynistic by today's standards and at times he would slap women around and stuff like that. Those elements deprived the character from reaching his full potential for longevity so they were wisely faded out as the years went by. At the core he is still a Garry Stew that handles all weapons, vehicles and is able to perform death defying feats every two seconds, but now he is a Garry Stew with a relatable character arc and who treats people (and women, in particular) better than he used to without slapping them and saying cruel remarks. So in the end, the problem with Mary Sues is not that they are powerful, and Ciri's problem is not going to be that she is overpowered (Ezio, Alex Mercer, Jin Sakai all of these were overpowered, to be truthful), her problems will come if she starts patronizing men, hating Geralt for principles and stuff like that. If she behaves like a decent person and treats others with respect, then let her kick all the monster asses that she wants.
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 11 күн бұрын
ya know, i really didn't expect to agree with this video, but i listened to your points and it really sounds like your right, this is the natural progression, i mean i don't like the whole girl boss woke agenda thing, but in this space we often mention we don't mind it if it makes sense given the lore and the story from the previous game, she's not given her girl boss status by mystical reasons outside of the elder blood, everything else she gains through her trials and effort of her own, maybe she went through the trial of the grasses and survived simply because of the elder blood deal she was born with and maybe she had a reason to become stronger, maybe there is a story behind that desire to become stronger in the story that makes sense. but all the really skilled ppl leaving the studio and the possible effect of this might make or break the game, because this studio cares more about diversity than they do about quality in their games, so i admit i'm a little biased.
@shiroblaidd
@shiroblaidd 11 күн бұрын
The only thing Ciri gains from the Trial of the Grasses is the ability to imbibe witcher potions, which is so useless for her that the choice to make her a witcher is nonsensical.. She can already use witcher signs and has the potential to learn much more advanced magic. She is a very capable swordswoman and has extensive knowledge of oil, brews and monsters (thanks uncle Vesemir) She has the potential to control space and time She defeated a werewolf and a basilisk in W3 using a steel sword and oil (in the case of the werewolf), which is nothing to sneeze at, many witchers in the lore fell to monsters far less dangerous.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 11 күн бұрын
The last point is just a gameplay oddity. In the books many monsters are killed with steel swords. Silver swords are used more rarely
@shiroblaidd
@shiroblaidd 11 күн бұрын
@@moonknightish I stand corrected :)
@fernandosilva1730
@fernandosilva1730 3 күн бұрын
A brand new Witcher would be awesome... getting to create one from scratch would be very interesting... choosing its school, backstory... etc.
@usnairframer
@usnairframer 11 күн бұрын
I think the claims of her power and Elder Blood making her a demi-god are rather overblown considering she is (or was, before the lore breaking Trial of Grasses) just as frail as any other person, in that a sword of arrow kills her just as dead.
@Bigsolrac
@Bigsolrac 11 күн бұрын
My head canon for Witcher 4: Letho the only witcher which wanted to bring back creation of new witchers manages to rebuild the School of the Viper and they start trainning young witchers again, (if you want you can retcon that they managed to even create female witchers, by changing the formula for the trial of the grasses, this way you can have both genders), so you create your own witcher but not a full blown veteran witcher like Geralt, instead you create a young ´just graduated´ witcher which is obviously weaker and inexperienced than a normal witcher. you start going and doing missions and such but suddenly the conjunction of the spheres who was prophesied to happen again, happens!, but your character ends up beign teleported to the realm of the monsters or the place where vampires come from, and you start your quest for survival in a foreign universe with new types of creatures, etc here your quest is to find a way back but you end up going to different dimensions using some artifact or something, so you find other humanoid cultures and do quests for them in order to survive and manage to find a way to come back, the world of the elfs from the wild hunt, the world of the vampires, etc, this could turn into several games btw, so eventually you manage to come back to earth and is absolute chaos with monsters everywhere and you returning as a witcher is a godsent, so the story takes whatever route you want from here.
@raketensven3127
@raketensven3127 11 күн бұрын
Would've been the better retcon, I want to play your head canon lol
@Bigsolrac
@Bigsolrac 11 күн бұрын
@raketensven3127 thank you XD
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 11 күн бұрын
Yes, but minus the female "witchers". Witcher is a male term. It's the male counterpart to witch. To have a female Witcher is an oxymoron. The Witcher is about young boys forced into a life they did not want.
@thomasthebravelatino4538
@thomasthebravelatino4538 11 күн бұрын
It’d be better if Ciri became Empress and you play that instead of her becoming a Witcher.
@ArtOfDyingWell
@ArtOfDyingWell 11 күн бұрын
This was exactly my gripe. Before the trailer there were 3 reasons why I wanted a new male witcher protagonist and not Ciri 1. Ciri was EXTREMELY OP 2. Her story like Geralt felt like it was concluded and I liked the Empress ending more because it was bittersweet( and it was HER actual choice if you let her process her father and the sorceresses without interfering) 3. I wanted to play as a WITCHER because that is implied by the Witcher series CDPR has seemingly solved 2 of these issues in the most contrived way possible. I'll hold out full judgement till I see more, but with the info we have now and current(western) development climate I'm VERY tired and warry.
@sneslive1556
@sneslive1556 11 күн бұрын
Keep in mind we're told over and over again that the time of the witcher is coming to an end. Monsters are basically being brought to extinction, so unless another conjunction happens and more monsters get spawned, surely since we're now even further into the future they have even less of a reason to have witchers.
@MatthewBreck
@MatthewBreck 11 күн бұрын
Why does he need to be male though?
@ArtOfDyingWell
@ArtOfDyingWell 11 күн бұрын
@@sneslive1556 A conjunction of the spheres happened at the end of the Witcher 3. You had giants, those desert bugs, fork tails, etc. all pouring out. I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to say it affected more than just skellige.
@bestkidsk9507
@bestkidsk9507 11 күн бұрын
I was hoping for Vesemir or Letho but they just want to appeal to a fanbase that just played Witcher 3
@bestkidsk9507
@bestkidsk9507 11 күн бұрын
@@sneslive1556 exactly and look how they even used some unknown monster in the trailer ... So many cool established monsters but they gotta make shit up, people should not forget people from CD project worked on Netflix show which had the same thing
@jamesphillips5896
@jamesphillips5896 11 күн бұрын
I wanted a "create your own" Comd Shepherd style Witcher. Also, does her face look strange?
@raketensven3127
@raketensven3127 11 күн бұрын
Botox.
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 11 күн бұрын
People say she just aged, but apparently bone structure grows with age past 21 as well. Her facial structure got masculinized.
@elfergos
@elfergos 11 күн бұрын
I think the problem goes further than some basic 'don't want to play as woman' or even 'girlboss.' It has been well established that the studio has lost a lot of talent, it was also well reported that cyberpunk was rushed out earlier than it should have (albeit well after its estimated release date) because the studio was running out of money. Off the back of the problems with cyberpunk the studio sought investment and in order to do so it was required to have a DEI stratagem. From that point onwards everyone put CDProject under a microscope. This trailer merely confirms a lot of the fears. There is evidently still a lot of the Witcher DNA here, this video closely mimics one of the quests from the Witcher 3, and tonally it matches the "hunting monsters" trailer on the lead up to the Witcher 3 release. And a lot of people actually wanted more Ciri content off the back of the last game albeit she was OP even in that game. The real issue here is the willingness of the studio to just throw the lore of the Witcher universe away, as was stated in this video, her becoming a full blooded witcher didn't even make any sense. In the books the Geralt saga had already been wrapped up as an Arthurian legend, however the game didn't contradict what was written and even had the feel and atmosphere of the books, which is why it works so well. But when the developer is happy to just throw that away we are heading for another one of those rings of power moments. Ciri's appearance doesn't help with the current trend of what is happening to the culture, would anyone have been surprised at all if they had quickly flashed up a status screen that included pronouns?
@duckonquack6969
@duckonquack6969 11 күн бұрын
@@elfergos yeah bro
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036 11 күн бұрын
I wonder what her kryptonite is?
@TheRealClaylex
@TheRealClaylex 11 күн бұрын
Its either gonna be 1. Absolutley nothing 2. Plot induced stupidity
@reptiliancow
@reptiliancow 11 күн бұрын
Her emotions. She won't be a good Witcher because she's too emotional and can't effectively get the job done.
@TheRealClaylex
@TheRealClaylex 11 күн бұрын
@@reptiliancow That........actually would be a good weakness to her. 🤔
@redrave404
@redrave404 11 күн бұрын
​​@@TheRealClaylex Not really. Did the same thing with Captain Marvel, she has to accept how awesome and spectacular she is and "quit holding back." Coming to terms with your flaws can be interesting character development, deciding you essentially have no flaws isn't.
@reptiliancow
@reptiliancow 11 күн бұрын
@@TheRealClaylex she's a demigod. Its the only thing that could stop her lol
@ragingpapist103
@ragingpapist103 11 күн бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with the narrative. Ciri wouldn't possibly choose this life for coin when she could have been a queen at the end of the previous game. Meaning, she is bringing all her power to "right the wrongs" of the world. And with that you have the vehicle to feed politics to the world. You will fight every manner of injustice and find that the real monsters were the people all along.
@marsuini
@marsuini 11 күн бұрын
Ciri has elder blood...nobody strips away elder blood
@ed61730
@ed61730 11 күн бұрын
I honestly think this game could be in a multiverse where the wild hunt never happened.
@65firered
@65firered 9 күн бұрын
Then CDPR came... And retconned everything.
@ed61730
@ed61730 9 күн бұрын
@@65firered Or maybe they consulted Andrzej Sapkowski to find how to move forward with the story?
@65firered
@65firered 9 күн бұрын
@@ed61730 Unless he's decided to sabatoge CDPR... which I doubt. No, I don't believe that anymore than I believe these retcons are necessary.
@ed61730
@ed61730 9 күн бұрын
@@65firered How would you know though? There are logical story endings form w3 where Ciri would have lost here powers or become weaker.
@effive7817
@effive7817 11 күн бұрын
I really wonder why Ciri would do this. Theres quite a bit of drama regarding fertility between Yen and Geralt, and Ciri is definitely aware of it. I wonder why Ciri would sterilize herself anyway, and if Yen/Geralt knew beforehand or tried to say anything.
@damned0wl
@damned0wl 11 күн бұрын
That part actually makes a lot of sense if you read the books. The reason the Wild Hunt were after Ciri in the first place was because they wanted her to have a child with their king.
@Hekk.
@Hekk. 11 күн бұрын
​@@damned0wl Ciri also wanted children & the Wild Hunt is gone.
@effive7817
@effive7817 11 күн бұрын
@@damned0wl They defeated the Wild Hunt, but I supposed conceptually their could be potentially other otherworldly consent-haters, its a multiverse setting afterall... So I can see the logic of wanting to remove some incentive, from Ciri's point of view of being harassed so much. I'm still curious what the writers will choose, but thinking like yours make the concept less inconceivable.
@elivenya-theautisticbookwy9638
@elivenya-theautisticbookwy9638 11 күн бұрын
not to be fertile would be worth it...the elder blood brought nothing but harm for her and people who wanted to user her like brood mare...so why not making the "becomming a witcher" sterilisation...life problems solved plus extended life span....i would totally trade that..
@Hekk.
@Hekk. 11 күн бұрын
@@elivenya-theautisticbookwy9638 She can literally move between universes, no need to sterilize herself after getting rid of the wild hunt. Her children are supposed to be messiah-like figures according to the prophecy. She wanted to have children. Extended lifespan? She literally has power over time and space.
@Xxnutblaster69xX
@Xxnutblaster69xX 11 күн бұрын
Shorty was godpowered in 3, if anything shes been nerfed
@df6597
@df6597 10 күн бұрын
Now was probably a good time for a custom character for sure, if they wanted to play it safe and almost guaranteed to be well received. They could even work in a way to somehow make a female main character work as a Witcher, or a female only class that's similar but different.
@crozraven
@crozraven 11 күн бұрын
As someone who has been probably watching all kind videos & baords about this, the majority of people indeed wanna play as Geralt again, even though it has been very clear since day 0 that W3 is the finale saga for Geralt. There are 2 massive reasons about this: 1. Most players only played W3 & that's a big problem. It's simply not enough to quell the curiosity fo Geralt characterization.\ 2. Both the OG books, comics & games are all feature Geralt as "The Witcher". We have zero story (non that I know of) that featured other witchers, even some witchers that has been created by CDPR can only have brief summary story about them in Gwent. This means without a doubt the face of The Witcher has always been Geralt of Rivia. But then again, I am gonna play devil's advocate to some of the things you say in this video: Personally, I do made two choices for the new protag. For a SEQUEL, it's either new character (creator too) or Ciri. This can only make sense because Ciri is indeed the most natural progression & I would argue if any character deserved such "passing the torch" treatment, it is indeed Ciri. Not only because she is practically also MC of the books, she is literally Geralt's surrogate daughter & the Witcheress ending has been canon for a long time from CDPR comics. Even if she is not the main protag of the next game, I am 90% sure she is witcheress. It's also what she wanted since she was a girl. Your definition of Mary Sue is not quite correct imo. By this logic, OP power character like Superman is Gary Sue. Based on oxford dictionary, Mary Sue is a type of idealized female character, typically a young woman, unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses. This means even OP character don't always mean Mary/Gary Sue. For the start, yes, Ciri is very powerful & now also full witcher (apparently so), but she still have flaws & weakness that has been established in her previous characterization. We know nothing about this game story yet. Also, from trailer alone, this doesn't fit Mary Sue story as things simply don't go the way Ciri wanted. Even after she saved the day by slaying the relic monster, the sacrificed girl still being killed by the fearful mob. Every actions still have consequences & hopefully the game actually stand by this, just like previous Witcher games. In the end, people are way too quick to judge simply because of the political climate & game industry trend that clear ruined many female characters. It is understandable to have such strong disagreeable reactions, but we need to judge this thing much more carefully, otherwise we are no better than the woke crowds who ruined many franchises simply because of their ego & ideologies.
@crozraven
@crozraven 11 күн бұрын
Also, so many people keep forgetting that beside W4, we also get Witcher 1 Remake which of course featured Geralt. The possibility for Witcher 2 Remake also there & maybe other new Witcher spin off game with Geralt.
@caelr.8553
@caelr.8553 11 күн бұрын
My guess is that her powers have transferred to her son, the child of prophecy. As for the trial of the grasses- I think she might've used the mutation chamber found in Blood and Wine. She'd probably need to go through this to probably search for her son the same way Geralt searched for her in the books and games.
@thejadedfox9389
@thejadedfox9389 11 күн бұрын
In your last video, you mentioned something about a female sorcerer character, I think what would be awesome if they went the divinity original sin route or similar to mass effect, you have a commander Shepard like character that can be either male or female, if you choose male you're a Witcher, and you have a companion (maybe a sister) who is the sorcerer you can switch between them for game play but your male is the face of the pair, or if you pick the female you're the sorcerer with the Witcher character as your supporting companion. This feels more lore compliant and you get to essentially play a sorcerer and a witcher.
@yukibird0
@yukibird0 11 күн бұрын
Im with you on this, CDPR has a lot of explaining to do, and it better be good I loved Ciri, in W3, and wanted to see more of her in other games, but she would never go down this route, neither would any assist her in it from W3 It feels like some devs just pushed this through, because of *reasons*
@kylerobinson6399
@kylerobinson6399 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I really like your voice btw and things you choose to cover. Keep em coming 👍
@armyovhades
@armyovhades 11 күн бұрын
maybe Ciri because of her powers (time travel etc.)saw in her future of having Elder Blood would had a catastrophic result somewhere in the future. so she decided to push thru in mutation so she cannot pass her elderblood thus being a Witcher and these effect of being mutated is having her elder blood power become somewhat dormant, and can only tap some power in it but not fully.
@redrave404
@redrave404 11 күн бұрын
Going through the trial of the grasses for Ciri makes no sense. Not only is the fatality rate unacceptably high, hence why it's essentially forced on young boys who don't have much choice, but none of the abilities are comparable to her natural Elder Blood, so the cost/benefit risk assessment makes no sense for her.
@simonconte7299
@simonconte7299 11 күн бұрын
Ciri has prior connections to the School of the Cat through the lore of the game (she took their pendant from the body of Leo Bonhart after killing him), and they are the only school that trained female witchers. It's really not a stretch for her to become a witcher.
@travisace
@travisace 11 күн бұрын
​@simonconte7299 thank you! Some people can't think for themselves.
@TheManHimself
@TheManHimself 11 күн бұрын
You fail to consider that becoming a Witcher might be exactly what Ciri wanted. After all she grew up with the Witchers at Kaer Morhen and thinks of it as home. It could just be exactly what she wants. I think the idea of playing as not just Ciri, but the first ever WILLING Witcher is such a cool concept, not just a child of fate who was chosen into the life.
@redrave404
@redrave404 11 күн бұрын
@simonconte7299 And that changes the fatality rate of the trial of grasses how exactly? Why would a grown woman, entirely of her own free will, subject herself to dangerous toxins and mutagens to gain abilities lesser than what she currently has?
@Starsteam1
@Starsteam1 11 күн бұрын
Says who that it's uncomparable?
@difanxu8295
@difanxu8295 11 күн бұрын
I'm actually pretty excited to play as Ciri, although I would prefer if they let her stand in her own lane instead of turning her into a witcher, it feels a bit like they are making her into female Geralt. Hopefully they will provide solid explanation on the whole mutation thing in the game.
@justaquietpeacefuldance
@justaquietpeacefuldance 11 күн бұрын
explanation isn't important, chane of universe dynamics themes and topics is. +she's too powerfull already a ciri-sue.
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 10 күн бұрын
Ciri deserves her own DMC style games.
@justaquietpeacefuldance
@justaquietpeacefuldance 10 күн бұрын
@@MistahJay7 she doesn't deserve to be relegated from Lady of Time an Space/President into a plumber imo. +personally, I do not think female witcher is something even worth exploring as a concept. It messes up the balance of the universe. Witcher is a male profession, no matter what your non-conforming Uni profesor told you to believe 😂
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 10 күн бұрын
​@@justaquietpeacefuldance I have no idea what you're even rambling on about lol. Anyways all I said is Ciri needs a Devil May Cry style of game or like a Bayonetta game to fit her Character so her Powers can be used to the full extent and can be OP asf. I also don't like her being a Witcher as I picked her to be the Empress
@justaquietpeacefuldance
@justaquietpeacefuldance 10 күн бұрын
@@MistahJay7 yeah, a different game. Whole damn appeal of being a witcher is that it's a lowly profession and Geralt just happened to be a cool down to earth guy. I don't see Ciri filling that role of a lone melancholic profesional on the Path very good as it was never about being OP.
@randomthings1293
@randomthings1293 11 күн бұрын
I don't think that what they wrote in that article means necessarily that Ciri still has the Elder Blood powers. Those powers were always something *more* that made her special. She could have lost her Elder Blood powers but still have an affinity for magic. So that, instead of being the most powerful sorceress in the world, she could just be a very capable one, albeit just one among many this time. Gameplay-wise this only means that we will have more skills to choose from, and I'm here for it.
@Jake_E57
@Jake_E57 11 күн бұрын
That's pretty much what I got from it too. It reads more like options to maximize game play like you can lean into developing Ciri to be more of a Witcher or more of a sorceress. She's never really been shown to develop any strong control over her Elder Blood powers and it's more of a gamble from jumping randomly through space and time to the outcome varying greatly depending on the choices you made through the game.
@lcicada
@lcicada 7 күн бұрын
I wanted to play a custom character, but Ciri will do!
@MrHardcoreMode
@MrHardcoreMode 11 күн бұрын
I feel like Ciri was Superwoman in Witcher 3. Killed 10 guys in 5 seconds but she went through the trials as a full grown up? Why? And let Geralt go. I want him to have a life with Triss. I wish you made your own Witcher to be honest.
@kkkk-uh1cu
@kkkk-uh1cu 11 күн бұрын
She really didn't feel as powerful in Witcher 3 as in canon, though...
@kkkk-uh1cu
@kkkk-uh1cu 11 күн бұрын
There's some crazy powerful people in canon that never made it into the Witcher 3. That lack makes Ciri seem more outstanding than she is with the poor control of her power.
@simonconte7299
@simonconte7299 11 күн бұрын
From a game mechanics standpoint, Ciri didn't have a fraction of the abilities that Geralt had in Witcher 3, and I found playing her much harder than playing Geralt.
@recjr7685
@recjr7685 11 күн бұрын
Read the Corvo Bianco comic They made Yennefer romance canon Triss can suck it (not really, she's fine. She was really trashy in the books, but she's had a lot of character development)
@Pårchmēntôs
@Pårchmēntôs 11 күн бұрын
Going off what they said Geralt is probably retired and living with Yennefer. It’ll be fun to have interactions with him. As long as they don’t kill him off and we can go visit him at different points I’m fine with it. Maybe he’ll be like our Encyclopedia Witcherica and we go see him to find out how to kill rare monsters.
@damned0wl
@damned0wl 11 күн бұрын
I highly doubt that Ciri still has the full extent of her space-time powers, since that would make no sense for the gameplay. But she does have some proper magical training and will be able to use more magic than the simple witcher Signs, meaning you'll have more build options than would be available to a regular witcher.
@duckonquack6969
@duckonquack6969 11 күн бұрын
Totally agree! Also, In time of contempt, geralt and vilgefortz both say geralt could learn more powerful magic if he had the ambition,he just chose not to ❤
@JollyMoonerRespectorofWomen
@JollyMoonerRespectorofWomen 11 күн бұрын
The Trial of Grasses probably stripped her gifts, or she lost them after fulfilling the prophecy. Whatever it is, more people need some imagination before they rush into badmouthing things with little known details. 😂
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 11 күн бұрын
ya know, i really didn't expect to agree with this video, but i listened to his points and it really sounds like he's right, this is the natural progression, i mean i don't like the whole girl boss woke agenda thing, but in this space we often mention we don't mind it if it makes sense given the lore and the story from the previous game, she's not given her girl boss status by mystical reasons outside of the elder blood, everything else she gains through her trials and effort of her own, maybe she went through the trial of the grasses and survived simply because of the elder blood deal she was born with and maybe she had a reason to become stronger, maybe there is a story behind that desire to become stronger in the story that makes sense. but all the really skilled ppl leaving the studio and the possible effect of this might make or break the game, because this studio cares more about diversity than they do about quality in their games, so i admit i'm a little biased of what this game is going to be like.
@Tyanus2
@Tyanus2 11 күн бұрын
How could she loose her powers if they are given from her having elder blood, did she get a blood transfusion or something?
@T51B1
@T51B1 11 күн бұрын
that would be some retcon
@eran5005
@eran5005 11 күн бұрын
OP and Mary Sue are not the same thing. The difference between the two is very crucially the writing and how their power is handled. There have been excellent stories about OP characters, some of them earned their powers but some didn’t, and the writing is what turns the story of an OP character to a good one, vs bad writing which just gives you a flat, boring Mary Sue. I understand the concerns, I share them, but I think a lot of people are too quick to dismiss. We don’t know anything about the story, no more than we did from the Witcher 3 trailers. CDPR have talented writers, they can still make something good out of it. Whether or not they will remain to be seen, but i intend to at least allow them to *try* before I go ‘full internet’ on them.
@kielbasamage
@kielbasamage 11 күн бұрын
I hope they still have those writers. I recall they said they would be doing a "restructuring" of their staff, so there can be a concern that a lot of writers were let go and replaced, and/or whoever is left will have people who *aren't* good writers looking over their shoulders telling them what to write and what not.
@Jake_E57
@Jake_E57 11 күн бұрын
This is a very important distinction. By the OP definition Superman is a Mary Sue. It's more about the story, and the story is really important in building a video game where a character has to grow and develop their abilities over time. CDPR have given us some quality stories in the past so I have confidence giving them the benefit of the doubt until they actually give me reason not to.
@bendynamic2150
@bendynamic2150 11 күн бұрын
A lot of their talented writers and other amazing senior veterans staff and talent have left. Then add the fact that CDPR has been following and implementing ESG and DEI initiatives pretty hard which has hammered most all games they have been forced into and it makes you weary for what they made. Also I don't want this to be or feel lik Geralt 2.0 if anything I'd rather see a remaster of Witcher 1 and 2 in Witcher 3's updated combat, style, and mechanics systems with no censoring if thats Geralt 2.0 is what they plan (if not worse).
@jebediahrage8273
@jebediahrage8273 11 күн бұрын
"OP and Mary Sue are not the same", but Mary Sue often get the rules of the universe they're in rewritten to fit them girlbossing everywhere, for example ignoring the rules and caveats of how witchers are made, and at what ages they do so just to have her show up all the men around her. Seems as though you ignore some Mary Sue qualities to promote the accepted narrative of the past few years.
@69Nameless69
@69Nameless69 11 күн бұрын
Maybe her teleportation abilities will be locked behind some kind of rage mode similar to Kratos's Spartan Rage
@TriggerJim88
@TriggerJim88 11 күн бұрын
Just like a Witcher...
@TiaraStarbrighter
@TiaraStarbrighter 11 күн бұрын
7:45 Kinda flies in the face of Geralt's comment "this world doesn't need a hero. It needs a professional."
@AsimovBR
@AsimovBR 10 күн бұрын
100% with you my man
@jacobvriesema6633
@jacobvriesema6633 11 күн бұрын
It’s been a while since I read the books, but doesn’t Ciri give up her magical abilities in the Korath Desert in the books? I know she later teleports between worlds, but I don’t recall her using typicdd as l sorceress magic after that. I’ve never quite understood the lore reason why CDPR gave her magical abilities. I must be forgetting something.
@ap4702
@ap4702 11 күн бұрын
I wanted a prequel being vesemir being the protag. We would get to see the height of the witchers, which to me would be immensely more interesting.
@lowlygrinder2977
@lowlygrinder2977 11 күн бұрын
It would be boring since you know what's going to happen. Prequels always suck.
@Vidmasterjops5
@Vidmasterjops5 9 күн бұрын
Other than the one scene of the good ending at the end of Witcher 3, was there ever any evidence that showed that ciri had a strong desire to be a Witcher as a profession? She seemed more interested in traversing worlds and being with geralt and yen? With the wild hunt no longer after her, I can only logically see her traveling again, returning to the Witcher world to visit friends and family and maybe joining geralt on the odd Witcher contract that he does when he isn’t at his vineyard.
@Frontigenics
@Frontigenics 11 күн бұрын
Yea, if Geralt's story is done... then all the surrounding characters should be done as well. I have no idea why they couldn't just set the new installment-- like 100 years in the future. Maybe something like a new (psuedo) Conjunction of Spheres brought more monsters and now you have to start a new Witcher order as a customizable character. There could even be some kind of McGuffin that allows female Witchers or something if you want to play as one. I have no interest this hacked-together, convoluted, plot to continue as Ciri.
@al.di.216
@al.di.216 6 күн бұрын
That would be extremely boring. The Witcher universe isn't that interesting.
@Kat1kafka
@Kat1kafka 11 күн бұрын
Nilfgard ending makes more sense than the witcher ending
@ponli7532
@ponli7532 9 күн бұрын
I'm not sure she's a Mary Sue , but she is definitely the "Chosen One" trope from many fantasy/sci fi series. This also why Geralt is such a good protagonist, because he's not the chosen one, just someone that that has a relationship with the Chosen one.
@Christofer_tTt
@Christofer_tTt 11 күн бұрын
I got lambasted because I made her empress and thought that made the most sense actually. She could have been the god queen of the continent Instead of being a manly girl boss vagabond with attitude
@ZoomTrue
@ZoomTrue 11 күн бұрын
"manly girl boss vagabond" honestly bro your seething is not well veiled.
@iliboxic7586
@iliboxic7586 11 күн бұрын
I stopped reading when you explained that you think Geralt would send Ciri to her horrible father although she always wanted to become a witcheress. Nobody cares about you.
@Christofer_tTt
@Christofer_tTt 10 күн бұрын
@ witchers are wanderers living rough, on the path, to contrast vs empress. Vagabond isn’t seething, 😂 it is a descriptive word in the English language. I love how the woke mafia have become the language and thought police for the regime and corporations. You are seething that people won’t just obey and agree and consume!
@RaspiRoope
@RaspiRoope 10 күн бұрын
​@@Christofer_tTtI completely agree, women can't be fighters they're only queens and moms
@stavrosmayakofsky1915
@stavrosmayakofsky1915 10 күн бұрын
@@Christofer_tTt damn, we have a revolutionary in our midst. go on dude, disagree and non-consume. nobody is stopping you. i bet you'll change your tune when TW4 is amazing.
@NoName-ym5zj
@NoName-ym5zj 11 күн бұрын
I think none of these things make a character a Mary Sue by themselves. The main part of being a Mary Sue is having no weakness or character flaws and it's too early to say anything about that, besides she can be easily killed with a sword. I trust in CDPR and their writing which has been stellar so far.
@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg
@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg 10 күн бұрын
Also can someonetell me for some reason when i type comment i cannot see it being typed but i can "blindly type" and post it still have to rely on memory and typing skills
@m3ntal_c0re
@m3ntal_c0re 11 күн бұрын
maybe the elder blood was somehow "damaged" reducing ...and maybe even twisting her powers in some form. Could make for some interesting in game abilities.
@corruptbydesign8249
@corruptbydesign8249 11 күн бұрын
Geralt's story doesn't end till he's dead. He's a Witcher... As someone who's read all the books having The Witcher without Geralt is like having a 007 movie without James Bond. Geralt makes The Witcher
@lowlygrinder2977
@lowlygrinder2977 11 күн бұрын
Plus it doesn't even have to be his story, the DLC's for 3 weren't his story and they were amazing.
@crozraven
@crozraven 11 күн бұрын
I think so many people in this discussion keep forgetting that we will get Witcher 1 Remake alongside Witcher 4. Geralt will not disappeared.
@jebediahrage8273
@jebediahrage8273 11 күн бұрын
​@@crozraven "keep forgetting" is a funny way to say "treat it as though this change to let Ciri become a witcher may tell a tale of what they intend for the reboot", but keep playing dumb until the point mid reboot when they have him replaced mid game by a girlboss who makes Rey Palpatine Skywalker look tame by comparison to their version.
@crozraven
@crozraven 11 күн бұрын
@@jebediahrage8273 what you said doesn't even make sense to me. You treat it like some kind of evil plan. W1R literally one of the projects that has been in the work plan for years now.
@stephenstrange4239
@stephenstrange4239 11 күн бұрын
Exactly Geralt is THE witcher.
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 11 күн бұрын
For me the biggest problem with Ciri at this point is lorebreaking witcher mutation. It's a major plot point in the books that witcher mutations are impossible for females to endure. Why does she with all her powers have to be a mutant and drink elixirs as well?
@Pårchmēntôs
@Pårchmēntôs 11 күн бұрын
It’s not impossible. No girl has survived yet, that’s all. Ciri is a child of destiny, she’s got elder blood, and Geralt had prepared her body with necessary ingredients and training to undergo the Trial of the Grasses when she was a child. Or the sorceresses could’ve discovered a safer way to undergo the mutations. We will find out how all this stuff happens in the game, we don’t really know anything yet except that she successfully became a real Witcher. 🤷‍♂️
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 11 күн бұрын
@Pårchmēntôs I'll only be happy if they make it work from the narrative standpoint. But I am a bit sceptical about it so far.
@Ludydobry
@Ludydobry 11 күн бұрын
we are getting a girl power trip trash storyline with feminist lezbo woke personality, enjoy it boys
@somegodforsakenprospero
@somegodforsakenprospero 10 күн бұрын
it isn't lore breaking, the Witcher games are continuations of the books, therefore they ARE the lore. We have no information about the game AT ALL. It can't break lore we don't even have yet.
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 10 күн бұрын
@@somegodforsakenprospero according to the book author, they aren't canon. Not that I support him in this opinion, but if I see stuff that doesn't add up well, I am very cautious about it.
@kyreegreen9248
@kyreegreen9248 9 күн бұрын
So why was she struggling with the monster and why does she needs a sword if she can use magic with hands
@necasperaterent29386
@necasperaterent29386 11 күн бұрын
If Geralt shows up ingame, it'll be as a bumbling, out-of-touch shadow of his former self, just to be called out, saved, and corrected by Ciri constantly to cement how much better she is at everything than even her foster father, who's just a stinking, silly, incompetent man anyways. And they'll probably have him broken up with Yen/Triss while we're at it, just like Indie was in the latest movie, or Han and Leia in Star Wars. That's a trope in and of itself now. God, I'm sick just thinking about it.
@RaspiRoope
@RaspiRoope 10 күн бұрын
You're just creating a narrative in your head, take your meds
@fbbf2932
@fbbf2932 11 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. I absolutly have the same opinion. Good health to You, Sir.
@Hangman1
@Hangman1 10 күн бұрын
Playing Ciri for me is a big NO NO! she can be a sidekick or some character that you play with from time to time but never main character because I Never play females ( breaking immersion, the same reason I never played doll's when I was kid just GIJOE or Spider Man figures)
@hedonismbot-hp9ii
@hedonismbot-hp9ii 11 күн бұрын
i usually play female too, to me it´s like why not have something nice to look at. being your own customized witcher is more interesting than both ciri or geralt again.
@sabsinoname
@sabsinoname 11 күн бұрын
But i also want something nice to Look at 😜🤷🏻‍♀️ Team geralt here 🤣 no, i know his Story is over… But i prefer a nice masculine guy to Look at over women..
@silentsorrowbane
@silentsorrowbane 11 күн бұрын
gooner take
@raketensven3127
@raketensven3127 11 күн бұрын
@@silentsorrowbane So you like to spend 70-90 bucks to look at something ugly for 60+ hours? Ok.
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 11 күн бұрын
@@silentsorrowbane Dork take
@estefanosantos3167
@estefanosantos3167 9 күн бұрын
Ciri is OP, but she wasn't able to save the girl in the trailer, she failed, is not mary sue
@lilstain
@lilstain 8 күн бұрын
Honestly, my best guess is they'll shoot for another grindy RPG (Similar to Ubisoft with the AC franchise) so she's not ridiculously OP off the start. Which doesn't make much sense considering she should have access to her abilities from the beginning, but still. And because the enemies will most likely level with her, somehow everybody from the thugs to the vampires will all be even stevens with her.
@Csatadi
@Csatadi 11 күн бұрын
Playing as a young pupil of Geralt would have been more interesting. Male/female version as the player wants. Geralt could appear in scenes similarly how Vesemir appeared in the previous stories.
@yoch5383
@yoch5383 11 күн бұрын
I didn't know i would play a female version of one punch man, thanks a lot cd project.
@yol_n
@yol_n 3 күн бұрын
Imagine if they let us play as Ciri but she's still magical woman and we do crazy magical woman things
@denijovanovic9935
@denijovanovic9935 10 күн бұрын
Larian from BG3 said the other day if the devs aren't having fun that we won't tho. Also, many good seniors left which is the problem. Switch to Unreal Engine also. And how it went with the veil guard... Also as a guy playing a woman character.Remember how Geralt had those juicy moments with girls. i can't play as a woman and have nude scenes. u could argue that's the lest of problems and yes u can skip.] But my moral compass says,don't pre order and w8.
@alexk5222
@alexk5222 11 күн бұрын
Should't they call it a Witch now?
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro 10 күн бұрын
Tell me you don't know the lore without telling me you don't know the lore
@adamjenson9369
@adamjenson9369 11 күн бұрын
If you don't know why it's Geralt vs Ciri then you don't understand what's going on.
@josephcrehange602
@josephcrehange602 9 күн бұрын
Her powers could become so strong she is forbidden from using it. And the opus could explore her personnality and moral dilemnas. I can get your point on the Marie Sue side but I would have been disapointed if she wasn't the next protagonist. Also I think CDred is planning an online Witcher game which in you could play your own witcher i assume.
@EredinEdgelordOfTheWildHunt
@EredinEdgelordOfTheWildHunt 11 күн бұрын
they said that the new game would have more build variety than the 3rd, so these abilities will probably just be the diffrent builds you are going to be able to play around with
@seankelly4096
@seankelly4096 11 күн бұрын
I like your take. I argue that what was presented was not a Mary Sue. There are several cues in the trailer that tell us she is not perfect, she is not demigod-like powerful - and she is not all that in control (of herself). 1. She enters the lair and gets beat about until she guzzles the Witcher potion. She can't fight on equal terms until she does so. That she even needs to enter the lair is telling that she's not the teenaged demigod she once was. 2. She fails, as Geralt did an obscene amount of times, to anticipate the consequences of meddling in peasant mythology. He understood it, but he still did it. No doubt Ciri romanticized Witchers as noble monster slayers. But she's learned nothing from experience. 3. "There are only monsters." My take was that she slaughters the peasants here as the reveal logo rolls, like a monster. Or does she? Ciri is self-made. Ciri didn't get to make the choice to be the Daughter of the Gull or Calanthe's granddaughter, or Emhyr's daughter - but she does choose to be a Witcher. Geralt didn't choose to be a Witcher but did choose to stay out of politics. 4. Ciri is also a monster. Look at that head roll after the decapitation. She enjoys this. And even if she is a Mary Sue, the outcome in the trailer proves she can't solve the fundamental problem with us humans, that we choose to believe in things without evidence.
@diegotambor9283
@diegotambor9283 5 күн бұрын
Here´s one who preffers play as Geralt.
@spellandshield
@spellandshield 5 күн бұрын
Here is someone who literally did not listen to my words in the video...I said and I repeat I want a new protagonist.
@diegotambor9283
@diegotambor9283 5 күн бұрын
@spellandshield i reffers to me.
@spellandshield
@spellandshield 5 күн бұрын
@@diegotambor9283 Ah
@alvinmjensen
@alvinmjensen 11 күн бұрын
Wait a minute. Wasn't there something about a Witcher not being able to have children and there were prophecies about Ciri's children? There's a lot that doesn't add up.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 11 күн бұрын
Prophecies are true if people believe them, this is one of the theme of the books. And at the end of the Saga Ciri leaves that world rendering the prophecy useless.
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 11 күн бұрын
@@moonknightish The prophecy was about an ice age brought on by the planet's axis tilting. The White Frost we saw in the games was something entirely different. Either CDPR misinterpreted the books, or created something new. Either way, the prophecy holds still.
@Dawid0912
@Dawid0912 10 күн бұрын
But it's trendy for women to be childless. Women who wrote her must normalise their actions in real life
@cantonold7014
@cantonold7014 11 күн бұрын
The tip off was when cdpr moved to the USA. There was no good reason for this other than dei.
@aradicaldude
@aradicaldude 11 күн бұрын
I don't mind female leads, even if they aren't my jam, I don't mind Ciri being the protagonist, but this isn't the "logical" choice as the writers haven't earned the right to make her a Witcher nor explained how her Elder Blood has weakened or is now no longer a mover and shaker in the Witcher world. CDPR could have made an entire game explaining the who, what, where, when, and why's a new school has arisen, what Sorcerers and involved and why they want to create female Witchers, and more importantly why Ciri wants this, but none of this is being respected and instead being force feed to us with the "promise" that it will be explained and will respect the past lore and established world. Hogwash, I have no reason to trust CDPR let alone take their words with anything but a grain of salt; especially after the Cyberpunk 2077 fiasco.
@timothyshaw7665
@timothyshaw7665 11 күн бұрын
This is literally a cinematic trailer. Just like the one for Witcher 3 in the beginning. We have no idea where the story will begin or how it will play out. Y’all just like to complain.
@jeremysimmons8187
@jeremysimmons8187 11 күн бұрын
Not to mention, I have no problem with an all powerful female character, if she has earned it, which she clearly has
@sleeplessbard2519
@sleeplessbard2519 11 күн бұрын
A new character would definitely have been nice, however I'm decidedly interested in seeing what they do with ciri I don't think it's a bad thing they've gone this direction
@tiagobrizida966
@tiagobrizida966 10 күн бұрын
I completely agree, Ciri is just a Mary Sue and CDPR will be just an extension of the horrible Netflix Witcher Tv show. Ciri as a witcher is a mockery of Sapkowski's books, indeed if anyway they are ignoring the books why not just create a story about a new witcher from a different school. I am done with this woke CDPR. The good news is that the Rebel Wolves (the real Witcher 3 developers) already teased that they will showcase something on Dawnwalker soon.
@justaquietpeacefuldance
@justaquietpeacefuldance 11 күн бұрын
CDPR KNOWS deep down, along with the fans that it's not about any lore breaking or anything like that... That can be "explained" at least well enough that most gamers will swallow that pill. The reason why Ciri will not work as a Witcher is that you cannot tell a story about masculinity, being isolated, shunned by society and stoicism with a pretty looking female as a lead in this setting. Those are overarching topics of the books AND games and you as a fan think that's all by accident? That they just forgot to mention the fact that women can become witchers too? That it just slipped the author's mind throughout all the books and hundereds of hours of play and now you can exploit that mistake? It's so obviously fake that CDPR even tries to convince us, that because they perhaps are fighting some norms, standards. When in reality they just want an easy brand recognition and a protag with c()()ch and white hair on the cover. And who's sx-ist now?
@invaderj815
@invaderj815 11 күн бұрын
I have a way for Geralt and Yen to have a child without breaking lore involving Melitele and Gaunter O'Dimm.
@OdiVonDobi22
@OdiVonDobi22 11 күн бұрын
I wish the Witcher 4 was exclusively about the adventures of Roach, the Horse of Space/Time❤
@raketensven3127
@raketensven3127 11 күн бұрын
My hope was a build your own witcher prequel. When the whole witcher craft was in its peak, maybe even conflicts with other schools about the right approach to the witcher-tum.
@northernsmallbeard7999
@northernsmallbeard7999 10 күн бұрын
To have Ciri risk her life to become a witcher where her chance for survival is extremely low when she is one of the most powerful people in the whole witcher world is stupid. Even in the books she is basically too powerful, in my opinion at least.
@billbalts2989
@billbalts2989 9 күн бұрын
My guess is Ciri lost her space time magic after defeating the white frost...
@geraltgrey-mane695
@geraltgrey-mane695 11 күн бұрын
I realy realy wanted to create my own witcher this time around >.
@Nathan-xd9vq
@Nathan-xd9vq 9 күн бұрын
Truthfully, I wouldn't mind playing a game as Ciri, as I enjoyed her characterization in The Witcher 3. However, I would like some explanation for how she survived the Trials of the Grasses, what changed in the witchers' schooling that allows for female witchers, has she lost her former abilities, and why would she choose to become a witcher at all (Geralt's footsteps, perhaps?). Honestly, I was hoping to be able to create a new witcher, perhaps even select a school, with a game design closer to a true roleplaying experience. Missed opportunity, if you ask me.
@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg
@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg 10 күн бұрын
Not to mention guys that she ended up being sterile going through the Trial of Grasses as far as my knowledge on Witcher game lore is concerned like why would she end going sterile while being an elder blood is more powerful anyway? its like wearing flip flops to run while you have and can wear best sneakers in the world for that job
@hughcurran6817
@hughcurran6817 11 күн бұрын
Im hoping her elder blood powers have a negative effect. Imagine it being like blood magic in origins. If you overuse it, then it drains your health fast. As for her character im hoping the writers keep her impatient and head strong. These flaws are important in the overpowered characters that can never get control over their abilities. Much like Anakin skywalker in star wars.
@alexduraev
@alexduraev 11 күн бұрын
Ciri going through mutations is lore breaking as is
@ddt6
@ddt6 11 күн бұрын
Those are my concerns as well. There have to be some substantial events that will make Ciri loose her time and space abilities. To entertain the idea I would involve the Unicorns. They have the power to open and close the gates between worlds. There could have been also a trade off - Ciri stopping the White Frost while exhausting her Elder Blood abilities - the same way she lost the Power after healing Ihuarraquax / Little Horse in the books.
@thequietman5934
@thequietman5934 2 күн бұрын
Ciri becoming a Anime character.
@Pårchmēntôs
@Pårchmēntôs 11 күн бұрын
There’s already going to be another game with a customizable Witcher and also a remake of Witcher 1.
@HalfBreedMix
@HalfBreedMix 11 күн бұрын
One of the best elements of the Witcher series for me was the whole "Targeted outsider surviving on your ability to play on the hated- but-needed dynamic". If Ciri is as OP as this vid alludes to,,,,, not only will the combat be trival, but so will the interpersonal suspense. Ciri: Anybody in this town gives me a hard time,,,,,,,, and you ALL die🥱
@dmitryrudenko4998
@dmitryrudenko4998 10 күн бұрын
If she became a witcher, then why she looks so much older than previously? I thought witchers age very slowly
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 11 күн бұрын
I also think, whether it was stated in the books or games, that adults do not and cannot survive the Trial of the Grasses. They are only done on young boys. Young girls do not survive them. How did Ciri survive it? It is also antithetical to anything Geralt and the rest of the witchers wanted for her; in both the books and games. No one wanted her to be a witcher. (Only in the show, Vesemir did. But even then they said it's too dangerous for her.) It breaks lore and it breaks characterization.
@SgtHodl
@SgtHodl 11 күн бұрын
W4 protagonist should be Eskel he's alive in all W3 endings also Geralt & Yen would NEVER let Ciri do the trial or fight monsters without OP elder blood powers. The Ciri "Witcher" ending ONLY is logical bc Ciri had mastered space time pwrs she's WAY more powerful than Geralt & freaking defeated the White Frost 😳 that's the ONLY way you let ur daughter hunt monsters & even then its a pretty illogical ending for Geralt & Yen.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 11 күн бұрын
No he should not. Ciri is more interesting char and is a protag with Geralt in books. Eskel being a W4 protag out of nowhere i a huge downgrade and most ppl would hate it
@RavusRiven
@RavusRiven 11 күн бұрын
Yeah Geralt calling her a Witcher at the W3 ending was more of an honorary title rather than him literally wanting her to go through the trials
@SgtHodl
@SgtHodl 11 күн бұрын
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Ludacris the bastardization of lore to force girl boss Ciri down fans throats is WAY worse than a Eskel adventure. Ciri's OP powerful it's a joke to have her fight trash tier monster after defeating the White Frost 🤦‍♂️ doesn’t make sense in any way
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 11 күн бұрын
@@SgtHodl ''force girl boss Ciri down fans throats'' BRO you are in wrong IP if u hate Ciri, She is a protag of the books and whole W3 story is abt her too (u even play as her) How dumb u can be. It is clear u are new to witcher lore in general. Silly grifter, Ciri is the most importand person in Geralt life
@silentsorrowbane
@silentsorrowbane 11 күн бұрын
​​@@sillylittlesheepjax6009ok but are you dumb. The games are the games and the books are the books. Calling someone who quite possibly has played all Witcher games a grifter because they have a different opinion about the next game (that has barely anything to do with the books anymore) than you is such a dumb and elitist stance
@quinny720
@quinny720 11 күн бұрын
Although i agree with you about the girl boss trend..(im super over it) I do not quite see it yet with ciri though there is unfortunatly a very high likley hood of it happening..😒 I am of a wait and see mind set, im neither hyped or dissapointed we know to little. As for why Ciri would want to be a witcher over a sorc i always thought that was her preference because the way i alway interprited her character was that she always wanted to be like her father figure Geralt and follow in his footsteps, she always came across as not careing for power and magic like every other scorceress.. i dunno im probably huffing the copeum too hard 😂
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