Witches of Guernsey

[@zero_pax]

GUERNSEY MENTION!!! Sorry I'm from Jersey and get really excited whenever I see any of the Channel Islands mentioned ¤]!!!!

[@LadyDragonbane]

They don't get enough attention in the media, I feel like

[@caitlin5750]

Sameeee omg!!!

[@helenahsson1697]

The tech diff guys did an episode on Sark long ago, have you seen it? Otherwise I'll find out the name of the episode for you 😊

[@helenahsson1697]

Citation needed episode 7x02 "The Sark football team and hovercraft enthusiasm"

[@sugaredbugs4823]

I'm from guernsey and have polish parents so a video on guernsey from karolina is a real treat!

[@embluvya]

The thing that haunts me, is I always wondered if all the thousands of people who were executed for witchcraft throughout the years went to their graves knowing they were being wrongly accused and were being killed for NOTHING, or if the societal hysteria and religious attitudes and psychological pressure got to them too. Did all of them die knowing they had falsely confessed and they were innocent, or did some of them truly believe they really had been corrupted by the devil?

That’s a good point!

[@sarahwatts7152]

There's speculation that people with extreme mental illness thought that they themselves were witches on occasion, just like some criminals now attribute the divine or spiritual forces to their crimes

[@brianthesnail3815]

@@sarahwatts7152 I suspect it is fairly easy to convince a mentally ill person that they have met the devil and been corrupted. Plus, mentally ill people were in the past routinely described as 'possessed' .

[@morganelliott1484]

About the animals: this was an interesting thing I learned in grad school in an animal studies in literature class. Folks were TERRIFIED of various animals that we consider just normal today and took them as bad omens and evil creatures (owls, bats, and cats). The ones they didn’t consider evil, like dogs and horses, were still often mistreated and abused and just seen as work tools (In England at least). People in England mainly didn’t start seeing animals as innocent and cute pets until the last couple centuries (roughly, I may be off here). Interestingly, the church in the 1800s and forward was often (not always I guess) a big proponent of caring for animals as arguments were made about humans being meant to care for creation. Vivisection (grotesque animal experiments) was a big topic that many church leaders spoke against, and even CS Lewis was speaking against it in the 30s and 40s.

[@PaniOlutek]

Also the fear that devil can sneak by turning into animal that you see every day is terrifying. If it was something different they could knew it's the devil. Its nice to look at old painting imagining hell or the devil, they did really funny human - animal hibrids :D And ofc animals didn't have a soul etc.

[@amblyommaamericanum6590]

Very true, and dogs were not spoken of highly in the Bible.

[@panqueque445]

"Was there wine in the sabbath?" "Yes" "Did it slap?"

[@millyboop2047]

"nah bro, the wine was mid"

[@thomasjamison2050]

This one was really excellent! I find it fascinating as I have an ancestor who was judged a witch in Salem, Mass. and hanged for, among other similar things, allegedly floating across a street without getting mud on her skirt, the obvious evidence being there was no much on her skirt. After all, what woman would ever think of holding up their skirt a bit to not drag it in the mud? The fact that she was an elderly widow who owned a very nice and well managed farm worth a great deal of money of course has nothing to do with all this. Her name was Susannah Martin and her questioning and testimony can be found on line.

[@bartsanders1553]

"In Guernsey, they are drinking wine with the cats; they are connecting to the dogs; they are consorting with the pets of the people that live there."

[@tishie42]

😂😂 Not consorting.. 🤣

[@user-gq3ip8kr5r]

That sounds like something Trump would say! 🤨 I'm from the United States. He's been running for president, and he keeps saying they are eating the cats and dogs in Ohio! He's crazy!

[@jamestolson2804]

Thanks! Poor & powerless always lose

[@rachelv673]

The mention about the pin: they're saying they stuck a pin deeply into a spot that "the devil marked" and that she couldn't feel it. Likely they kept jabbing her with a pin and when she finally stopped reacting, they took it as a sign of the thing they were looking for. Along with outright shock, there are a variety of medical conditions that can cause numb spots in the body.

[@PaniOlutek]

Even when there wasn't clearly a mark - like usually birthmarks or mole. They believed devil can hide it under the skin so they were looking for it with a pin - also they shaved all the hairs to look for the mark just by burning them - nice.

[@bellablue5285]

Judging by a book by the Mather pair of 'witch finders' there were also modifiable devices which would collapse basically, so that they didn't actually poke the person (or not enough to break the skin). So it could also have been deceitful 'testing'

[@neptunviro]

These males were obcessed with making their own beliefs and creative stories into reality. They were murderers and only proved how their church did make life in society impossible, basically.

[@jeremiahgabriel5709]

"People controlled by fear are really easy to manipulate" a brilliantly succinct explanation of most of why christianity persecuted everything else, historically and sadly, still now

[@I_am_Lauren]

Very poignant in the modern climate of the USA.

[@questprotector]

islam too.

[@finnhickory-dick4098]

Some Christians, some Muslims. I have Christian, Muslim and even Jewish family members who are all kind people who do not fit your stereotype

[@CnaDoCna]

Well, explanation for power in any form

[@Gravuun]

Christians are the most persecuted religion on in the World btw. And not only historically, TODAY

[@nayalistamoral]

It means a lot to me that you are speaking about the travesty that is people being so dark-natured as to go after others like this. I was being gangstalked and still do get intimidated and harassed to this day, after 4, 6, even 10 years after brushing past these types of people or allowing them to infiltrate my life fully. Living in a military town and a large city bordering Mexico makes it easy for the more rural or suburban areas to have all these sorts of crimes. I really hope the internet is my last and final place of hopefully finding some peace before I find a way to leave town(their goal, ultimately). I love all your work, Karolina! Thank you for sharing your incredible mind with is, dear. ❤

[@obliviouscandybar]

32:40 For the pin, it was customary to pick a spot on the accused's body and poke it with a pin. If they didn't feel anything, it was thought to be the mark of the devil. Often times this was done after the days of sleeplessness so their senses were dulled.

[@SandExperiment]

Most Jack Russell terriers I have met in my life had nasty personalities, so I can totally imagine one saying: "hey, go k*ll the cows!" 😁

[@Eloraurora]

So watching Wishbone as a kid has given me unreasonable expectations?

[@CandaceCullen]

@@Elorauroranot necessarily. They are high energy dogs, for sure, and they need to be treated as such with plenty of exercise and jobs to do. Proper training and exercise will make almost every dog easier to handle and be around. I’ve known several Jacks who were a delight to be around.

[@prkp7248]

Hej Karolina, polecam ci sięgnąć po książkę Brunoletto Latiniego "Skarbiec wiedzy". Latini próbował w XII wieku napisać encyklopedie, ale tak niezbyt mu wyszło. Natomiast książka zawiera wspaniały dział z opisem zwierząt, z których dowiemy się np. ze Dudek ma nieświeży i śmierdzący oddech, oraz że samice Wieloryba zapładnia małż. Latini był nauczycielem Dantego, Dante mu się odwdzięczył umeiszczając go w Boskiej komedii w jednym z kręgów piekielnych. "Skarbiec wiedzy" prócz absurdalnych opisów zwierząt i streszczenia "Etyki nikomachejskiej" Arystotelesa, zawiera również skrót z historii świata, a także elementy fizyki, które w dużej części są po prostu notatkami z wykładów na uniwersytecie. Tak czy tak jest tam również np. najdziewniejszy argument za tym dlaczego ziemia jest kulą, ale przynajmniej mamy dowody na to że to że ziemia jest okrągła było uczone już w średniowieczu na uniwersytecie.

[@tyalangand]

W tym samym nurcie, Benedykta Chmielowskiego też można poczytać

[@NicoDamn]

Ojejku, cudo, sam musze obczaic ❤

[@questprotector]

"people that live in fear are easy to manipulate". you have described u.s. politics in a nutshell.

[@Mirabell_Noir]

Plus. Modern world lacks spiritual life.

[@brianthesnail3815]

We very nearly went to live on Guernsey. When we were visiting, someone told us that you have to get off the island periodically to stop yourself going mad. The other thing is that I read that several hundred years ago different villages on the small island actually spoke different dialects of Guernsey French which is itself a language similar to Normandy French that almost nobody speaks now. Imagine a small island in the middle of the sea where people in the next door village don't speak the same language as you. That is surely a place that people could be accused of being witches. We didn't go to live there in the end because we bought a house in the street where Victor Hugo lived. The owner decided to sell it to somebody else - for less money! That was strange.

[@kayprice7800]

I think you're onto something, Karolina, with the isolated location playing a factor in, not only the influence of the inquisitor, but also for the extended length of time that the practices carried on after they had been discontinued elsewhere.

[@TwoCatsInLondon]

What I have learned from this is that the devil is a furry Edit: Actually, the prosecutor in this case is was a furry. Because the devil does not exist.

[@pjsterling3517]

@Karolina always good stuff on your channel...love Textory. Keep it up. Small note: I am not certain dogs were considered that cute at the time given there were a lot of strays and others were there to keep people off property. At any rate keep up the good work...

[@Sophie_Cleverly]

This reminds me of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina where the devil was a goat on his hind legs and they had to pledge themselves to him and all that stuff 😆 it was a freaky vibe, at least until the show became a campy musical towards the end... This whole drama is simultaneously so farcical and so heartbreaking. It's awful to think so many people lost their lives over this.

[@zowzkosmosu8574]

Day 2 of asking for "Lalka" series and Sienkiewicz Trilogy films from the 70s fashion analysis

[@missrobinhoodie]

This is exciting! I visited Guernsey this past July for the first time 🤩

[@juliastrzyga2274]

You remember the Snow White dancing and singing in the forest? We all know what it REALLY was...

[@olgahein4384]

Snow White dancing and singing in the forest is a pure Disney invention. In the actual story of Snow White there was no such thing. Instead, she was unsuccessfully po*soned twice before the apple (or rather, first the Queen tried to off her through tightlacing with a magical lace that would not ease up, the second time was a po*soned comb used as hair decoration) and the best part: The queen was invited to Snow White's wedding to the prince, like all rulers in the area, but when she arrived, she was forced into previously heated iron shoes (they were glowing red) that were burning the flesh on her feet off, and she was forced to dance in those shoes without rest, until she dropped de4d on the dance floor, while the smell grilled human flesh was still in the air.

[@darthbee18]

Something something insert here "THOU ART A WRETCHED SINNER!! Utterly unworthy of God's love..." 🤪😆😆💀🔥

[@kanelemonnier3128]

Please do one on jersey!!! They are known as the which capital of Europe. They also have some great witch places!!

[@SunsetSeal]

Another interesting one is the Pendle witches. I think the events begin with a young woman being so terrified after a man has a stroke, which she thinks she caused by not buying something from him, that she turns herself in as a witch. And it basically turns into multiple family members and other neighbors executed as witches. It’s really sad how devastating this all was. It was like a plague but of fear and pettiness instead of illness.

[@MyrnaBarton]

I admit I wouldn't have lived very long if I had been born in that time. I was always really quiet and kept to myself. It'd have been terrible.

[@MoonBratStudio]

I saw a comment about furries before I started listening and was skeptical, but now I'm convinced. Seriously, why so much of the dog "connection" story?

[@enasan9406]

32:15 The devil's mark was one of the most recurrents "proofs" of witchcraft, a spot like a wart or a mole wich could be pricked with a needle or another similar object and wouldn't bleed or produce pain.

[@aylachipman7583]

it's a drama but honestly "the crucible" by arthur miller is really good depiction of some witch hunting

[@spectrumspectre]

I don't believe it fate, but it was a Fascinating coincidence that I bought a black cat named Salem, and only a few months later, found out that one of my ancestors was an accuser in the Salem Witch Trials.

[@danielasarmiento30]

Awfully convenient that a neighbor saw the third lady bruised and beaten and the devil got blamed for it. Smart thinking of her if she was the one who used it to her advantage, but I bet the husband was he one doing the beating. And if the questioning was as you suspected in a "did you do xyz" way, it's perfectly possible she could have been asked if it had been the devil who beat her and she just said yes :(

[@PietroLombardo-b4c]

CAROLINA POSTED!!!!! GIRL ILYSM U MAKE MY DAY EVERYTIME U POST

[@JazzHands]

Its espooky sisson, witch trial picks is a good pick. We can handle gruesome!

[@larsschurmann4773]

Well hasn't germany by far the most cases of witch trials(a german here)? But thank you for mentioning that it wasn't all beautiful smart women, but more isolated people with some enemies. Mostly women but also men and children and in rare cases animals. Also it was more prevalent in protestant countries, because they wanted to prove as a new religion to be extra christian and catholics baned it some times right at the beginning.

[@pinstripesuitandheels]

On the normal, Christian Sabbath, you drink the blood of Christ and eat the body of Christ (at least in the denominations that believe in transmutation), from chalices and platters. I also believe those chalices are symbolic of the receptacle of the blood from the Jesus's spear wound when he was dying on the cross. I could be the wrong, because I'm not an expert. Anyway, if you believe the devil is everything that opposes God, it stands to reason that at the black Sabbath you would drink the devil's blood, and that it would appear black and foul tasting. If you believe in all that, it all sounds pretty logical to me.

[@I_am_Lauren]

Spooky season LET'S GO!!!

[@SallyLock103emeCaris]

Interesting ❤

[@ik34z]

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[@zsofiaszabo8317]

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[@plumxodr]

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[@Jesiahjesiah]

@@plumxodr mooo

[@MzJenAtailia]

Cuddling my kitten while listening, ❤ definitely a witch 🪄

[@LS-um3zq]

@@Jesiahjesiah LOL you got a translate to English!

[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

4:06 why would an dying old dude be sadder than a young woman though? 😳

[@Bildgesmythe]

No one said it was sadder, just that it happened. It's all sad.

[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

@@Bildgesmythe I swear she said it in the video, but English isn't my first language so I might have misunderstood

[@bebebrasil1]

@@anthropomorphicpeanut6160she said it.

[@nyves104]

💜💜💜💜

[@alz7880]

The midwives stuck her with a pin on her mark, and she did not feel it.

[@BravelyBasic]

furry witch prosecutor was very sexually repressed

[@mittenista]

Devil is a furry confirmed?

[@Heothbremel]

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[@flagerdevil]

You clearly haven't watched a lot of ghost hunting in your life! 😁 Dark spirits often show them selves in the form of small innocent children... And have you not heard about hell hounds? 😁❤️

[@countessa222]

So what I’m gathering from this is that the devil is a Furry?😅 lol

[@TheCatLady65]

I beg to differ. Dogs are by far the most dangerous animals on the planet! Dogs kill more human beings than any other animal. Dogs kill more people than snakes, hippos, crocodiles and jelly fish *put together!* Also, sharks and spiders are completely harmless, they very very rarely cause any person's death.

[@ivyrose779]

That’s not true. You can’t just compare the number of deaths they’ve caused. If there were as many of those other animals and they interacted with people as often as dogs, they would likely kill more. Not all of them but most. I don’t think anyone can argue that, in a head to head comparison, a dog is more dangerous than a hippo.

[@robciowegnerchuk2583]

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