Depression, Suffering, and The Faithfulness of God’s Presence

This episode comes with a trigger warning for discussions of suicidal ideation. If you or someone you love is in crisis, dial 988 for help. Other resources to check out include Anthem of Hope and Psychology Today.
Jackie and Preston sit down with Brenna Blain who - as Jackie puts it from her first impression online - gives “exvangelical energy.” Brenna is a wife, mom, and contemporary theologian who says she “wrestles with the intersection of faith and suffering.” She has a powerful story of the ways Jesus has rescued her, from the time she joined YWAM (Youth With a Mission) as a way to run away from God, to her eventual bipolar diagnosis and time spent in psych wards. Together, Brenna and the Perrys discuss depression, mental health crises, and how loved ones can be like Jesus and enter into suffering through the power of presence.
Pre-order Brenna’s book, Can I Say That?: How Unsafe Questions Lead Us to the Real God, out on August 14, 2024. Listen to her podcast by the same name too, Can I Say That?
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[@sadeanthony3626]

I listened to the podcast and I was in tears! When she said the woman who prayed for her said God told her to “Go get her”. My God! Jesus loves us so much that he will literally go any depth to get HIS CHILDREN. May God always keep her covered. Whew the Lord LOVES US!

[@darkenyawebber-tennell262]

So good. I think on the fact that the road to the cross was ended in such brutality, blood & flesh shed. Jesus looked grotesque. At the same time he died while / for our grotesque sin. Things God hates everyday the sin but not the sinner. The Triune God exceeds our feelings and mindfulness as to what is worth His love. I'm thankful he is patient and knows my frame

[@shalayne9054]

Amen!

[@tyesepurvis]

This hit me so hard, Jesus is truly love. He will never leave us nor forsake us. ❤

[@faithbuiltbrands6001]

Right! I thank GOD for that woman's obedience

[@ObedientWon.]

🗣️🗣️🙏🏾

[@CassandraMooree]

RUBBING my feet together while eating my dinner because one thing about me is I love hearing people speak about the LORD !!!

[@Michimel99]

Loll mee!! 😂

[@Its_tiy]

Amennn😂🤍

[@britneymarieharris2149]

This is such a black thing to say 🤣🤣 and yesss!!!!

[@deborahbogle1302]

Me too😊

[@bethjacobus3365]

@@Its_tiym

[@daniellenelson7816]

Love that she mentioned Jesus being the Man of Sorrows because that is who He revealed Himself to be to me during my season of infertility. Also shout out to the prayer team at the first GLORY event who prayed for my womb to open because in God’s perfect timing, it sure did! Expecting our first baby after 9 years of marriage next month!!! 🤍

[@katrinabrown7871]

Congratulations 🎉🙏💙💗

[@sophisticated_naturally5015]

Glory!!! And congrats!! May you have an abundant and safe delivery!!

[@user-sz8uq5yt4o]

God is good!!!!

[@kiela4214]

Congratulations 🥹🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾hallelujah

[@kerryberry___]

God bless you ❤

[@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent]

I just prefer this content so much more than the latest sin scandals and buzz topics in the world and even in the church that I notice a lot of Christian content makers run to react to. There’s a place for that , I’m just tired of it . This type of content is practical and causes me to look inward at my own walk with the Lord rather than at other’s walks

[@hell2joy517]

I AGREE SO MUCH!! I have stopped following too many bc that's all they can find to focus on in the Kingdom is someone else's sin & fall disguised as Christian "concern." And that I find sad & pathetic! I'm so glad I'm not the only one! ✝️✝️

[@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent]

@@hell2joy517 YES! We’re not alone ..the Holy Spirit doesn’t make mistakes He’s guiding and leading us, this I know . And their captions to lure us in be killing me too but enough that haha .God bless u

[@melliemel32]

AMEN! Been feeling the same way. We do need to know sometimes what’s going on, but it has become like a witch hunt and although I despise heretical teachings, I have seen a lack of grace when some influencers present these things. Don’t sugar coat, but have some grace and pray! We need things that will help us GROW spiritually…especially now…AMEN again! 🙏🏽✝️

[@latanyayarbrough5362]

Me too. I love this podcast and Lecrae's. They are a blessing to me.

[@86Kera]

Yes you describe it so well- sin scandal !

[@Kamiajalise]

God’s “Go get her.” And her husbands, “I’m not mad at you, I’m right here.” is so touching and beautiful. God wants to use us to display his love for others through us. 💕

[@shuvaimuzari7678]

"Everyone has a thing that could keep them away from God and that's the tool of the enemy" We really are all going through something!

[@rianalafleur]

This really made me feel like it’s okay to not be okay. Even in our suffering, we can find the Lord, just being WITH US in the struggle. It makes me approach life so differently ❤

[@girlybaker1241]

Amen🙏🏽

[@rhondawilliams5600]

I said the same exact thing. The struggle sometimes can have us feeling like “God where are you” BUT this is confirmation that even in the darkest of times…God is with us!

[@masterfrostino447x]

Thank you for your comment, i feel like i needed to hear it, to see it, to let the Lord fully communicate it to me, you know?

[@heatherholbrook6235]

As someone who God has healed from bipolar depression after 36 years & a psych ward stay after suicidal ideations, I am blown away by this episode. My baby brother completed suicide 70 days ago. Why I was healed & he was not plagues me. BUT, I know that I know that I know that God is still good!!!

[@zakila2cute]

Indeed sis, God is still Good!

[@jasming8893]

Sending love and condolences!

[@andreso9595]

Sister Im so sorry to hear about your brother 😞 and at the same time so grateful for your life 🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@bunonmyhead]

Grieved to hear about your brother, thank you for sharing some of your own story with us, Heather.

[@colleengetz1608]

🩷🌸🙏🏽🌸🩷

[@OkayOkOkae]

"There has to be some type of death, for us to experience some kind of ressurection." - Jackie Hill Perry This podcast has blessed me so!

[@asonti]

All of this is SO powerful and I loved her testimony! I think Christians can unintentionally make God to sound like a genie who’s gonna take all your problems away and your life will be easy, but that’s NOT the case lol. Yes some chains God will break instantly, but other chains He’ll break slowly over time as you grow and develop in your relationship with Him. Either way God is always in control and wants us to endure and grow our trust in Him. ✨

[@madelinejaneski9750]

I love what Jackie said about depression not being something to simply get over or move past. Sometimes it is a weight to bare. Sometimes it simply needs to be endured. - SO True! I needed that reminder. I have seasons of depression. What makes it worse is the self talk of “okay, here I am again. I thought I was over this. Shouldn’t I be rejoicing in the Lord always? I have so many blessings why don’t I feel like rejoicing? Well obviously I’ve made no spiritual progress. Perhaps I’m simply evil …. So on..” The conversation that needs to be had is NOT analyzing and judging my own thoughts and feelings. Nope! The next time I’m sleeping back into anxiety and depression, the conversation needs to be “okay God, I’m here again. Please meet me in my suffering. Please be with me” While Jesus May not immediately heal me in my timing, he WILL in his. There is hope and peace in that!

[@Shayting1hunit]

I love this side of Christianity! People need to know God is with us in all things! ❤

[@Broken4m3]

Legalism ignores the compassion of God. 💯❗️🗣

[@ResilientIzShe]

This whole convo was tear jerking but when Brenna brought up her husband telling her he wasn't mad & being at Starbucks to get to her on time because he loves her so much & is present 🙌🏽 ooh wee, had me boo hoo crying. I want to truly experience that love/presence from God & my future husband

[@girlybaker1241]

Same I cried too🥺🥺

[@ObedientWon.]

@ResilientlzShe I cried as well Sis! Listennnn God hasn’t forgotten about us! He’s sending us our person !

[@brianab.537]

Oooh wee. The moment of her describing her moment of being in isolation once that metal door closed. It was a physical experience of what isolation from the Lord for all eternity would be if we continue to run from Him. wow! Thank you Jesus!!

[@shalayne9054]

Well said.

[@kiasharon5416]

I lost a friend 2 weeks ago to suicide and it is still not making sense. So many questions and so much regret. This episode has been hard to watch but most encouraging. May God be our very present help in time of need, always. RIP JJ.

[@glamgirlkass]

i’m so sorry , RIP

[@PeopleOfTheSouth]

Im sorry for your loss ❤

[@user-we3bp7zj2l]

I lost my brother to suicide 2 years ago. Sending you love ❤ That kind of loss is a different kind of pain. RIP

[@KashJ7]

Today is the 1 year anniversary of my cousin taking his own life. Still feels unreal

[@Ellana317]

What kind of God is with you at Sunday school but not with you when you’re being taken advantage of? What a profound and authentic question…

[@bettybell8069]

She just said, JACKIE, Its not about being straight. Its about being HOLY! AMEN

[@jrunnels04]

She was quoting what Jackie had said in a previous interview, saying she wished she had someone to say that to her during her struggles. 😊

[@mstasha315]

I grew up in a household with a single mother that suffered with bipolar. This allowed me to see her when I didn't know how. All I want to do is obey our Father and honor my mom but her illness has made it hard. Thank you Jesus for unlocking a chamber in my heart to see my mom.

[@brandi_w]

❤❤❤

[@divinecreator279]

Sending lots of love!! My mother was the same way and she was not diagnosis until years later. However, what I will tell you it does get better! My mom is becoming one of my greatest friend !

[@mstasha315]

@@divinecreator279 thank you!! 🙏❤️

[@Yeshua_Is_King20]

Praying for you and your mum 🙏🏾

[@april7872]

Wow. God truly gives us sight and wisdom.

[@katrinaecoleman]

Brenna, Brenna, Brenna...this was so much food to my soul. May God bless you beyond measure and continue to always be with you. Love your Sister in Christ.

[@bunonmyhead]

😭💓

[@charityhope9546]

I’m currently in Masters program for Psych NP. I love Brenna is discussing mental health and same sex attraction! God has put it on my heart to serve Him within the realm of MH support groups for women. I’m terrified of this prospect, I’m introverted, I fear failure. Please pray that God gives me the strength to follow His will no matter what and to reveal His plan. I have passion for theology as well, I identify a lot with what Brenna has shared.

[@crissyg10]

I’m a new Psych NP and I FELT THIS! Praying for strength and guidance ❤️

[@melliemel32]

When that girl said “I was dead in my sin… tears came to my eyes and I started praising the LORD! My GOD! HALLELUJAH!!

[@naomi9449]

As a bipolar baddie I felt so seen and this gave me so much encouragement!!

[@SilTheWriter]

“I’ve been begging you to heal me and for whatever reason you chose not to…” I felt that in my core.

[@charlenefesters1988]

Wow" the God I served wasn't big enough for my problems " transparency is enlightening... I felt that deeply.

[@clorindajames3179]

What a husband she has been given! Jesus! The emotional intelligence! The fact that the Lord left her with the capacity to hear the love from him, the fact that he was still with her in such a vulnerable, low, embarrassing moment in her life. I’ve been here. I still struggle to forgive myself…😢

[@thandolwethuntshebe2772]

I listened on Spotify twice then ran here to watch it again. I’m not a commenter but I couldn’t not comment on this one. I love what Brenna said about presence. It’s so important to know that God is with us in the suffering and the struggle and the dark times. He never leaves nor forsakes us and instead of asking Him to just remove the struggles sometimes just asking Him to be with us in the trials is so much better. Having a joy and peace that makes no sense. I’ve been in psych wards and now that my mind isn’t fighting me anymore it sometimes feels like my body is falling apart on me and fighting me. But I know God is with me. So even as I lay in the hospital bed I know God is with me. ❤❤

[@KAskew]

This is my testimony! Even down to being in a mental hospital three times (two back to back). Was diagnosed with bipolar disorder Jan 2023, went into hospital being told so many things and not having access to any creature comforts. Had to trust and rely on God in my fear. Then ended up on a unit full of other believers in Christ. Even a nurse who played gospel music for us. He took care of me. Since June/July 2023 I've been struggling with my faith wondering if I'm even saved anymore, but the Lord told me to tell my story today. So I will

[@leahforss710]

Same here! Bipolar 1 and 3 hospital psych stays. 10 long years of suffering but now I’m approaching 4 years of remission. God is good and He will NEVER leave you or forsake you! ❤

[@LovelyCaramel3]

This was a very great show. I was starting the cry then straight to laughing when Jackie said she had to start thinking about bunnies so she wouldn’t cry. 😂

[@kimberlymoses9397]

To be honest, I’m a born again Christian. Grew up in church and all that good stuff. But struggled with a lot of anxiety, depression, and feelings of being unwanted for a longgggg time. Something about this podcast did something to me and I’m just so grateful for platforms that share the REAL LIFE situations that help you to know you’re not going crazy and those unrealistic human ways that God works in. Thank you Perry and Jackie for starting this and thank you Brenna for your genuine love and honesty through this podcast. 💙

[@jasminRB5121]

This is were you need to shift into Tim Ross style and let this thing be 3 hours long… cause Lord. This is prophetic any many ways and profound.

[@Travel-en-lite]

I cannot stop the tears! When she said “Would you just be with me”! So Beautiful! Thank you Jesus for being with us in the depths!

[@latricefondren1198]

This podcast . This Topic. This Conversation. This is the gospel . I'm weeping inconsolably. So much clarity!

[@jonathankukuruku1749]

Her testimony was powerful. It was a reminder to me that God doesn’t just want to answer our prayers but he desires connection, to be WITH US. That’s relationship. May God Bless you Brenna and the Perry’s

[@WhitneyR.]

Jackie said something about each trial we face gives us an opportunity to share in Christ’s sufferings and endure, just as He did. That will stick with me. I will pray for Brenna and all of us suffering from mental health issues. Listening to this episode was a test for me because I have self-harm OCD and typically avoid anything that discusses the topic. I’m leaving here encouraged though, praise God! Brenna’s story just shows the faithfulness of God in each step in her path. We are being struck down, but not destroyed. Continue to pursue Him daily!

[@april7872]

I am so sorry that you have had to experience such pain. I have a 16 year old who self harmed in Oct 2023. If you haven't had someone tell you I will tell you what I told my darling child, I am so sorry that you are in such pain and I know it all happened so fast but you are safe and you are loved. we are going to get through it and you will get through it. There is a testimony in this even when we can't see it. That day was one of the hardest days of my life, but Good Lord I know that Jesus is good and he is working all of it out for your good. I encourage you to speak with someone God bless you.

[@letsheal6342]

"The embodiment of Jesus Christ in Austin's life to me was just being there"!! Wowwww!! 😭😭😭

[@Lulubonnie111]

For we have not a high priest who’s not touched by the feelings of our infirmities but in all points is tempted like we are This beautiful guest just opened my eyes to Jesus weeping and mourning with mary and Martha , he felt what they felt , he mourned with them even when he knew Lazarus would be raised. He would always understand and feel what we feel even when we know he’s our Healer❤

[@talithiagrace8652]

You can truly see Preston’s love and compassion for God’s image bearers. This was such a great interview! Kudos to Mr. and Mrs. Perry 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Nappyblkgurl]

I’ve never been this emotional while watching the Perry’s podcast but my eyes couldn’t stop sweating while listening to this young woman’s testimony 😩.

[@NBnNC]

“ the God that I was told about is not big enough for the problems I’m experiencing.” 😮 this question hit me 4 yrs ago @ 35 & compelled me to confront the misconceptions by writing my 1st book Diary of a Confused Christian

[@jazmine73317]

I resonate so much with Brenna. I’ve struggled with mental health. I’m struggling now. I lost my dad 11 months ago to alcoholism. My sister in law is fighting stage 4 cancer. Two days ago we learned she has 2 months to live. I’m sitting here praying “God where are you? I know you can heal her!” I needed to hear this. God is with me in my suffering and in family’s suffering.

[@caitlianna]

Praying for you ❤

[@oliviaaibangbee2452]

i literally never comment, but this is the best episode of the podcast ever.

[@jayvr3758]

Lord continue to use me, even when I don't understand. Keep me in my moments of anguish. Give me the strength to endure! Lord I thank you in advance! ❤️

[@MzA4123]

Y'all just saved a life today, because the way this helped me feel seen and not like a defective human and Christian wrecked me (in the best way possible). God bless you for listening, for making space and following the Holy Spirit's leading. It means more than you know.

[@bunonmyhead]

!!!!

[@jessicajohnson1742]

As someone who has always considered themselves to be a “melancholy” person, and someone who has struggled with anxiety and depression, this video was an incredible encouragement to me. And very timely as well! I tend to be hard on myself and I get frustrated with my sadness, anxiety, depression, etc. But this was a great reminder that it’s okay to not be okay. Jesus enters into our suffering & He doesn’t leave us. I can draw near to Him knowing that He understands my suffering. I can commune with Him as I get to take part in His suffering. Thank you for sharing 🩷🙏🏻🙌🏻

[@janayhammond2989]

I never ever comment and I just want to say that this particular episode resonated so overwhelmingly that I was appalled . I have never had thoughts of suicide but God’s unconditional love and grace as she spoke on her story speaks volumes. Thank you so much for these conversations.

[@MilaTeaTime]

I call that Martha & Mary moment a healthy confrontation "Jesus if you would have been with us..."We where taught not to confront Jesus or Question God. I learned 2 things : #1 if Jesus is my friend my homie then me & my homie can have talks, secrets, make memories & have healthy confrontation. #2 I serve a suffering God so life is tough sometimes. It's how I found my Faith asking God Why? What Now? & Can you hear me!!? God spoke to me and said I heard! I hear you! Learn to wait your turn sometimes Im busy working on what your asking for. Made me feel like a kid bothering a parent It humbled me. Lord knows this GENERATION & Age needs Brenna & her testimony. We need more weeping and metal health healing. We need more Jesus in the wilderness talk. So glad I tuned in what a great Wed Hump Day Hallelujah Time yall The Perry's Bless my Soul Every Time 💥 💞💗💗💗

[@JayMsRose]

This one…This one. ❤ Even in the suffering God is Faithful. This was Beautiful.

[@DearGoditsmeJudy]

So glad that you didn't demonize her illness & allow her to feel.

[@shiyabrookins]

As a mommy of 4 and wife who also struggles with mental illness, and previously suicide attempt, depression, and postpartum rage - I absolutely feel seen and resonate deeply with wrestling with the intersection of faith & suffering. I became devoted to Christ through His willingness and persistence to continue to show His faithfulness for me in my deepest, darkest, non-traditional, and unassimilated seasons of my life. When I think about the times of the embodiment of "God with us" being His proof of existence in my life in the most unnatural ways... it brings that fire in my soul, too. I am eternally grateful for the ability to REMEMBER. This was one of the best episodes I've heard personally. Definitely will be pre-ordering.

[@leonardodias7466]

50:05 "Their questions are too tabu, their suffering is too great, their doubts are too heavy" SO accurate. Millenials feel trapped and just told to get a job or wrap it up. That's a growing bubble inside society and church that'll gonna break or bless the world. Lord help us all!!!

[@alexandraprassas732]

This is beautiful. I have struggled with depression my whole life. In a season of tremendous sadness, I was on my knees in prayer and I heard "dama". I had never heard that word in my life before. The closest thing was a woman I knew named "Damaris". Well I thought I just was hearing gibberish...but the Lord pressed me to look at the meaning of the word. I found out it was the Hebrew word, meaning "to weep". When I looked it up in the bible, it was used a few times...once in the story of Jesus weeping with Mary and Martha. I knew at that time that Jesus was with me in my heartache. ❤️

[@MiriamO]

Such a honest conversation about Christianity and how it's not all rosy with songs & dance. I love that through it all the presence of God was with her. He is with you in the storm ❤

[@user-pk1vi9ez8h]

I had to stop the video at 55:31. "We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body". Jakie Perry, this exact scripture I have meditated on the past few days. God has blessed me through you, I cannot thank the Lord and you, as his vessel, enough. Thank you, thank you for this message. I feel comforted in the fact I'm not alone in my despairs. Brenna Blain, your shared synopsis of your story, and your testimony I will always carry in my heart.

[@Artythe4th]

The Perry’s podcast has been literally my fav pod

[@jackielingenfelter717]

I say this as a kind correction, when there’s an intense moment in the interview, just stop fusing with the camera frame and just let the conversation go…you brought a level distraction, that was taking AWAY from what the message was trying to do. The frame is fine. Remember to be listening to the Holy Spirit too when you’re filming and a pause and pray and you also being present in the room, is needed and will guide you in the capturing of what the Holy Spirit is doing in media. ❤🙏 God Bless, this was an Amazing interview! Thank you

[@Tyasiaaaa]

Possibly one of the best episodes that features a guest ! This was so transparent and beautiful! Praise Jesus ❤❤❤❤

[@itslatoyahayes]

This testimony made me weep but also gave me hope and assurance that I am never alone. I thank God for his presence and his word and for Jesus! May god continue to bless Brenna and hide her life in Him. In Jesus name, Amen.

[@TRILLTRUTH]

d e l i v e r a n c e. It’s so important to have knowledge on how unclean spirits operate in oppressing us through past trauma, generational curses, and open doors through willful sin. A lot of Christians do need deliverance. It’s very necessary within the sanctification process. I pray the Lord will reveal deeper knowledge and wisdom to my brothers and sisters to help them combat the enemy and be set free in every aspect in Jesus name. 🤍

[@tiffanyshine2733]

Amen to this!

[@sarahmcclure709]

Broke my spirit in a much needed way. Thank you Brenna and thank you Jesus for restoring Brenna’s life.

[@ComeAlivePodcast]

"When we own our suffering and our struggles, that displays the compassion of God." DANG.

[@vi0let799]

This episode really brought me to tears...the part where her youth leader just said those simple words...it wasn't a long lecture or preaching but just letting her know she is wanted and loved...I always pray that young people in the church struggling have persons like that around them...who wont condemn them but just comfort them by letting them know there presence in the body of Christ is a gift and blessing

[@Linetteavril]

This podcast was deep. I relate to BB. When she said she asked the Lord to just be with her. I said the same thing. The Lord is always right on time. Right on time. Right on time. Even when it looks too late. This message was right on time. This is what the people need to hear because there are many struggling with mental health.

[@guillermogarciagomez3217]

As a Christian with bipolar disorder, this hit home so hard. Takes a lot to bring tears to my eyes but these stories are so similar to my own. It’s not easy….

[@Nasiyma1]

This testimony just changed my perspective on suffering. I thank God!

[@GG7GodsGrace]

Thank you Perry’s thank you Brenda. I love you my son/ my heartbeat my GG/ GodsGrace. Rest up, I’m fighting every day to be ok without you here. Rest up Gramps. I’m living by you and GG words of wisdom. I love and miss you both so very much❤🙏🏽❤️🪽🪽. Lift me up God. I love you in my suffering.

[@yuizaeliz]

Wow praise God, the God of compassion and all comfort. Part of my testimony was being healed from my depression, but I’ve been hit with it in such a way I couldn’t understand it. did God really heal me? Did He touch my soul but didn’t heal my mental illness? I feel a burden of anxiety, loneliness, I pull my hair… the thought of death has also re-entered my mind. I cry out to God and still feel like nothing is changing. if I’m being completely honest I’ve felt my heart turn bitter. BUT God! His loving kindness always leads me to repentance. Last night I had a dream I was walking through a psych ward where people were both mentally ill and demon possessed but in the dream God gave me a word it said 2 Corinthians. I read only the first chapter when I woke up and I knew God was speaking and believe that He will heal me again! This episode serves as further confirmation. Thank you, Jesus. Be with us as we suffer, relying on your grace to get us through and never loosing hope knowing that you will heal… again and again. Amen. I began therapy last week ❤️

[@brandonromero2799]

Man I had to stop this video when she talks about the OD. I can’t be crying on the treadmill

[@lindohlily]

Worship Worship Worship! God is faithful! where would we be if not for You LORD❤❤❤

[@nobodybutzach]

“The power of presence.” 💯

[@michellerodriguez8053]

Thank you for this. My mom has been suffering with cancer. She’s stage four and has not been doing well. I had been asking God to heal her and why He had let this happen if as a family we are faithful in our service to Him in our personal lives and ministry. I have been wrestling with the fact that He might not heal my mom but He still loves her and is a good God. Really needed this! Love y’all!

[@katrinabrown7871]

Praying for you and your family 🙏 My father has stage 4 prostate cancer. Cancer sucks!!! But God is FAITHFUL! Stay encouraged!💗🙏

[@michellerodriguez8053]

@@katrinabrown7871 Thank you!♥ I will be praying for you and you and your dad as well.

[@aan7192]

This is a powerful episode and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have been working through therapy and in my private prayer time about being emotionally present and not fix all of my loved one’s problems. God revealed that I have to strip down this “savior complex” and point people to who the true savior is and allow him to show up through me in helping others.

[@Healedhomegirl]

Her story is similar to mine! Just crying tears over here! I’m so thankful for this community Jackie and Preston have created! Praise be to God!

[@BRiGHT-CHilD]

Cried through most of this episode. It made me think of the song, He Understands by Chandler Moore. He sees us through the pain and He is with us in it always even when we don't feel it. 💕

[@trevorhaeberle4688]

Reading all the comments while I start listening. 🙌🙌🙌

[@tiffanyhyde6703]

Best episode yet. It's the Father will still use me as I actively battle through my mess, all He wants is a yes.

[@crystalnorwood34]

I'm so Thankful and Grateful to have y'all in my city 🌆 of Atlanta we need you here ❤❤❤

[@duettetaylor4874]

Beautiful. My nephew suffers from schizophrenia and is homeless. His mom is ill and he wanders for days. Seeing him Lord I know you are holding him. I’m not sure how much of his own suffering he is even aware of. Thank you for his life and safety and for keeping him when it feels like we as a family are failing him. Amen

[@andreso9595]

Oftentimes especially Charismatic Christian’s like myself we have an “over realized eschatology” thinking that the fullness of the new heavens and new earth are here when that is a future very real hope. Man I am so inspired by the Side B community love you all!!! Because they embody the reality the mystery of human life in a fallen world but at the same time the present and future reality that we can fully live full thriving lives with Christ even in the midst of our very real suffering and the unanswered questions. I’m inspired by our Catholic brothers and sisters as well it seems they have a robust understanding of suffering the “dark nights of the souls”. Shoutout to my fellow Charismatic brothers sisters we can help others that may have the opposite problem an “under realized eschatology” Jesus have given us power to cast out demonic forces to experience the baptism the joy of the Lord Holy Spirit. In conclusion we truly need to learn and walk with one another Church.

[@champ4christnationtvmusic2]

Enjoy watching podcasts like these were different races are coming together this is absolutely amazing I’m looking forward to seeing you both Perry’s in person one day I hope I can be on a podcast and share my testimony. More Grace.

[@angiebae8125]

I pray the Lord keeps her, EXCELLENT episode!

[@ava_kate-r]

I'm going through depression for the first time in my life. I'm still struggling to see the light at the end of the tunnel and feel a dark cloud over me every day. This video gives me some encouragement that its okay to be sorrowful but I'm just so tired and need deliverance

[@chabs12]

This episode got me doing dishes with my jaw dropped. So so good. It always amazes me when God uses other people to speak directly to us. God is powerful and in the details for sure.

[@Melsmom]

Whew! When I first saw this drop a feeling of anxiety washed over me. I wasnt going to watch it but my friend sent it to me and I decided to watch and I am so glad I did. Breanna's pain is so palatable and so real in ways that dont make her imperfect or broken but a beautiful beautiful butterfly, a butterfly thats making and finding her way. Its this realness about her that Ill never forget. Keep fighting, keep living!! It doesnt have to be perfect nor does it have to make sense. It just has to be 💓

[@jenniferpineda2973]

Reminds me of Psalms 6. King David is saying… my suffering is so great it almost feels greater than You. And he asks God to be with him through the pain and not discipline him. And at the end of his grieving he declares the Lords compassion and comfort will triumph his suffering.

[@lisanowling5589]

What a powerful message and so needed in today’s world. Satan seeks to destroyed through depression, praise God for His desire to walk with us in EVERYTHING. Be encouraged God loves you and sees you!

[@SelenaHill]

Her testimony is powerful. Thank you for sharing. To God be the glory

[@CorneliaS0308]

Wowwww! My makeup got messed up this morning when BB began talking about the Lazarus part 🙏🏽 I felt that all the way! Jesus loves us! Powerful testimony ❤

[@zakila2cute]

Such content is very much needed as a Christian in this day and age. Brenna, your testimony has moved and helped me so much! May God continue to be with you always.

[@staceystevenson6206]

You guys made me weep… I didn’t cry I weeped. This was too good and her testimony was too good. As a Christian, as a therapist and just as a human this rocked me. God bless her

[@biancasilvermusic]

man i’m ugly crying through most of this. her story is so touching and is so timely for me to hear. how good is our God !!

[@loo762]

"Legalism ignores the compassion of God". Powerful statement. Something to think about and remember

[@nonyabidness5708]

Omword. I'm listening to this without looking at it... puttering around in my kitchen. "You don't look homeless but you don't look like you read" had me stop, wash my hands and come look at my phone while I'm hooting and hollaring.

[@indriadrayton1132]

God is made powerful through our weaknesses. It isn't about what we can do, it's about what God does THROUGH us.

[@katrinalo.3773]

I kept having to pause this episode so I could gather myself at work. God is amazing. ❤

[@Channah.H]

Not hormones and demons 😂 we need this sermon Minister Jacky

[@jasming8893]

Lol bc fr and in real life !

[@JoyaAurielle]

Just here to say that this episode was so moving. The raw transparency and beautiful testimony was a joy to watch. Glad to have learned of Brenna and her ministry through this episode and will be praying for her continued victory over suffering. ❤

[@jessicas9950]

As a 43 yr old woman I am do thankful for this. Like BB I knew God young and wanted to give him my all, the world started taking over for me in my early teens. Its taking me many years at the age of 41 to be where she is now. It is exhaustion to know the world so whole heartedly (but it not know you), and to now try to live in a manner as a Christian should. Love yall

[@coffeytnmilk7]

I found this podcast much more encouraging than one of those stories of how God healed me stories! Let’s be honest, most of us don’t get that healing, although I do know that he does heal some people. But that leaves the rest of us feeling like the unwanted step child. Ive often thought that if I’m not going to be joyful unless God does what I want then isn’t that just me wanting his stuff ( his blessings, etc) and not him? Thank you for your openness to share!

[@theofficialcierastewart]

One of the best pods I’ve ever seen. I think more believers will have more understanding of their own walk because of this video and be more encouraged in understanding that God is not a superhero but that he desires to be with us in every detail. Beautifully done, thanks so much for this!