Wixey Digital Rip Fence Scale Accuracy Followup Video

Wixey Digital Rip Fence Scale Accuracy Followup Video. Just how accurate and consistent is the Wixey Digital Rip Fence Scale? Lets find out. I discuss my experience with this scale and my tip for checking accuracy.
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[@bobcade1002]

My guess would be that the guide bar has some deflection past the cast iron table top when measured in and out rather than up and down. A very small difference in the guide bar could easily make a 1/64th deviation in your cut at longer distances from the blade.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Could be. It’s so hard to say. I’ll check it. thanks for offering help.

[@MajorTendonitis]

That’s interesting and would certainly make sense . I just installed mine on a general 350 cabinet saw. Now I’m curious myself

[@billirey9459]

Did you ever call Wixey? I would like to get one of these if there are no bugs to them. Very good video. Thanks for sharing it.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thank you. Actually I didn’t contact them as I figured I would just use it as it was and factored in the slight differences. Then I replaced my saw and it’s not being used anymore.

[@nunyabizness6734]

Two things I can think of... first, moving the fence too fast can cause a cheap encoder to miss steps. And yes, for what these cost, they are cheap encoders. Second, using a tape measure to verify what is essentially a dumbed down DRO is like trying to perform surgery with a baseball bat. After a foot, expect the tape to be off 1/64th. Plus, dont measure from the hook, burn an inch. Over time the hole the hook is mounted in gets distorted and it adds to the inaccuracies. Lastly, tape measures are made of metal, metal expands/contracts with changes in temperature much more than a glass DRO scale will. Some metals more so than others, and with how thin a tape measure is, it will absorb or lose heat pretty quickly. Again, surgery with a baseball bat. As to why the scale measures a change when you lock the fence, your locking cam or contact pad is distorted and isn't applying force perfectly perpendicular to the rail, so it shifts slightly when pressure is applied.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thanks for and commenting. I appreciate your input.

[@k.beeler4240]

Since it doesn't read down to the 64th, your issue maybe the fact that it is rounding up when reading the scale. From the manufacturers website : "accuracy of .002” per ft. of measuring length and a repeatability of +/-.0025”. What I'm saying is, if the WIXEY is off a heavy 64th it maybe rounding up to a 32nd. That could be why your cuts are off after a certain point. I have this same kit to put on my RIGID 4512 but I haven't taken the time to install it yet. Thanks for the video!

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thank you for watching and commenting. I’m sure you’re right about the error but it’s not as common it seems. I think it’s just a minor inconvenience. I really like the digital tape measure abd although it’s off it’s at least consistent. And repeatable. So that’s really great. I’m sure you’ll enjoy yours. Let me know if you have any questions.

[@MajorTendonitis]

I just installed the Wixey on my General 350 table saw with the Excalibur fence yesterday. I calibrated it against my calipers at 2 inches and got it set perfect . Your video made me paranoid , so I just went out to my shop to see how its accuracy was at longer distances , especially past the joint . Anyways I did not do any cuts, which would have been ideal, but I set it to 20 inches and then to 36 inches, and looking at my measuring tape at the outer tooth of my blade , it looks perfect from what I can see . Now I can sleep soundly tonight 😊

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@MajorTendonitis glad to hear it. I’m sure more than not they work well. But obviously my experience is a little different. Hope you like your saw too. I loved mine.

[@lincolnbrown1904]

These are back in stock, on Amazon, so ordered one today. Really looking forward to getting it set up.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Glad to hear. I can’t wait to see what you think about it. It’s pretty neat. Why did I wait so long to get one. I don’t know.

[@lincolnbrown1904]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Also going to see if it can be installed on my sliding table fence. Looks like it could be, but need to have one in hand to be sure.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@lincolnbrown1904 the manual states something about sliding table saws like dewalt I think I remember that. I hope it works.

[@lincolnbrown1904]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore ok, thanks. It's definitely going on my rip fence, but if I can see that it will also fit on my sliding table, I'll grab another one.

[@WasimBarri]

OK I have some theories. I wonder if your wooden extension table is 100% level with the cast iron because at the 20" mark you fence has just entered that extension table. Also is your fence rail 100% straight or does it drop off or raise past 20". Can you check both of these with a straight edge or level. I did read someone else had exactly the same problem past 25" but others don't mention it. I know my extension table on Sawstop is about 99.9% level with the cast iron . Its impossible to get it perfect as its not 100% flat. I've just ordered the Wixey, thanks to your previous video so I'll get back to you when its installed to see if I had the same problem

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thanks I’ll check my table to see if it’s flat. It’s been awhile since it’s been checked. I’m so glad that my video helped you. It means a lot. Also did you by any chance use the link from my video to purchase the wixey? I’ve had no purchases as my channel is so new. so I’m just curious if my amazon associates will be cancelled. I’ve got 6 months to get three purchases or they cancel. Crazy.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

I just checked my saw table for flatness abd it’s very good. I used my veritas steel straight edge. I was hoping it would be out. Good thought though. I think I’ll call wixey when I’ve got time.

[@WasimBarri]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore David, I'm from Australia so its easier and cheaper (no delivery cost through Prime membership) to order from Amazon Australia. I wish I could have bought from your link then that's a win-win Another theory .... I'm installing mine directly to the rail as others have done with a Sawstop. I wonder if the supplied brackets that you used are not all the same length particularly the ones over the extension table. So is there an exact gap all the way along from the bottom of the fence rail to the top of the wixey rail.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@WasimBarri oh Australia. Sweet. I’m going to look at it some more from the standpoint of the guide rails attachment. It’s just that it seems very hard to get this misaligned. The way it’s made. You’ll see. It’s pretty seem less. Thank you so much for taking such a great interest in my videos. I’m very appreciative.

[@WasimBarri]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Just installed it and you're not going to like this but its bang on accurate the whole way to 36". Absolutely love it

[@tonyzeh]

Just ordered one for my table saw, was wondering if the change happens after the center seam of the Wixey track? Wondering if the error is happening because of that seam.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

I thought so too but it’s not. The seam is perfect. It really starts about 13” out abd just gets a bit more as you continue out. Seriously though, it’s an amazing feature to have. I’m just having to adjust as I go. I’m used to it already. And it’s repeatable every time. That’s what’s most important to me. So that is great. You’ll like it. Let me know if yours is perfect.

[@DW-hn8bk]

Could it be that the difference is where you have joined the two tapes there is a gap of 1/64th. That is the tape joining guide is not accurate.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Hey thanks fir watching. I appreciate it. I would have thought so. But no. It’s starting before the joint. The joint is perfect. The error gets bigger and bigger when I move to right. I’ve dealt with it and it’s okay. If I wasn’t so busy, id call company. I just haven’t done it yet. I will.

[@lincolnbrown1904]

What happens if you rip two pieces at 15 inches and one piece at 30, then sit the two 15 inch rips on top of the 30 - do they line up exactly?

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thanks Lincoln for asking a Great question. I’ll try it. Let you know

[@sebmstudio1697]

Digital tools have a tendency to disapoint us. I bought a digital angle finder, but when I compare the results to my Woodpeckers square, the results don't match at all. Manual ajustments with precision tools for me whenever possible!

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

I think you’re right. Especially if you can’t adjust in very small increments. The wixey is very cool and I’m glad I have it, especially for repeatability. It’s very consistent.

[@truckfump620]

Nice video. I agree that your front rail is probably bowed in just to the right of the end of the cast iron. Maybe shim it a couple of thou. Thanks for the video.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Could be but I couldn’t see it. However it’s not being used anymore with my new saw.

[@retiredsparky526]

Are you sure your tap measure was perfectly square with the edge. Even if it is angled off the smallest amount it can read different.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Hey Gary. Thank you for watching. I’m grateful. Great point. This is absolutely something that can be a problem. I’ve checked and rechecked so many times that yes it’s not the tape measure. Also I’ve used all of my tape measures. Just to see. But it’s off. I’ve checked alignment of rails and such. It’s just off. I’m thinking wixey is going to send a new one. I’ll be posting follow up video when it happens.

[@retiredsparky526]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore David, I just went downstairs to check my tape on my Delta Unisaw with a tape measure. At short distances it was on but when I went out to the 52” mark on the measuring tape was off by a 1/32nd. I don’t know if it the measuring tape or the tape on the saw that’s wrong.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@retiredsparky526 same as all my saws. Weird right. My general is same way. Tapes are off just a bit. It’s strange.

[@jayelwin]

How do you get the device to move with the fence, the magnet isn’t strong enough to pull it? And when you move it back on and the magnet “grabs” it must jostle the battery and it zeroes out.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

The magnet does hold it very well. Yes. And it doesn’t zero out unless you press the zero out button. It stays even when you remove it from fence the wixey device remembers.

[@jayelwin]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore I have to push the device along with the fence or it gets “left behind” and then when I push it quickly to catch up and it hits the metal bracket it zeros out. I wish it slid along the rail better. I’m wondering if I could use paste wax.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@jayelwin something must be wrong with the setup. Maybe the rip fence bracket isn’t in the right spot to coordinate with the wixey rail. Mine slides effortlessly.

[@jayelwin]

@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore it slides ok if I move the fence very slowly. Any speed and it pulls off the magnet. It has a scratchy scrapy feel to it. I emailed the company and heard nothing back.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

@@jayelwin id double check the location of the bracket that holds the computer reading strips. Any height or depth problems it may pull away from the magnet. It needs to be set up precisely.

[@stevenkingma9228]

it still could be you tape measure. Before saying it's the digital, you need to find the accuracy per foot or inch for both. 1/64th over 34 inches is an accuracy of 0.005" per foot. Not bad. I don't think a tape measure is that accurate.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

I’m sure the wixey was the culprit but it was still usable as I just took into account the error. I made it work. I did like that it was repeatable every time. That’s nice. But on my new slider, I’ve decided to not have a digital readout from wixey or any other company. I may put one in but I love the accuracy of the fence position all by itself.

[@joelwinter4956]

KZbin Friends: The real action starts at 5:45. You can ignore at least the beginning five+ minutes of the video (no offense meant to the host!).

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Thanks Joel for sharing this.

[@stanley626]

Digital read outs are so much easier when using metric. Fractions and digital don’t mix.

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

Digital readouts are great provided they show movement in the tiniest fraction. As on my digital calipers, metric is to the hundredth and imperial is to the thousandth. Either way, it’s got to be accurate to work well. Thanks for watching.

[@SalmanSalman-iy3os]

The problem It's your table saw measuring tape

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

I’m not even using my table saw measuring tape. I’m only using tape measures. All of them. Every brand I own is the same. This wixey is the only one that isn’t right. I’m thinking it’s not the tape measures. But either way, it’s still a cool device and I really like it. I’ve learned to work with it’s deficiencies.