Wizard101: Is The New Cabal’s Revenge Raid Too Easy?

[@alcieus7294]

no and they shouldn't make it harder to keep it accessible

[@thaneky]

raids are not supposed to be accessible to everyone.

[@kelvinrobinson9435]

you see it as too easy because you have 50 competent people willing to help you 24/7 the average player wont even come close to completing this raid, let alone the others.

[@lifedeather]

Facts bro got the streamer privilege

[@Tycoonaddict]

cant even do raids lmfaoo sauce just has a high stool with an ego

[@LomiKo]

thats what im saying most people arent even in a damn guild let alone doing raids..

[@thaneky]

@@LomiKoyeah bro that’s a community problem. it’s an MMORPG dude emphasis on the MMO. People nowadays expect to be able to solo through everything and use team up once a year for the gear upgrading dungeon. Communicate with people about strategy. Dont just use a braindead aoe and move on, thats boring.

[@AwesomeTheSauce]

i doubt it matters but the first guild that beat this in test realm didn't have any streamers in it to my knowledge, not to mention our run only involved comms through wiz and my stream which is a lot less than 12 people in a voice call. I agree the average player is probably gonna find raids hard so definitely give the feedback you feel is right! hopefully the raid ends up being something fun for everybody

[@uiucchemistry2664]

Raids are still highly inaccessible to most of the community even if the difficulty spike in raids has finally dropped substantially (which is a good thing & not always a bad thing).

[@Artyom125]

All someone has to do is go up to a guy that is in a guild, ask if they can join the guild’s discord (which they all have) and make some friends in there. All people gotta do is stop being anti social. Most guilds will help people get prepared for raids. Not inaccessible to an average player at all.

[@uiucchemistry2664]

@@Artyom125 Totally wrong & shows you haven’t played the game long enough. I said RAIDS are highly inaccessible, NOT guilds. Anyone can join a guild and even ones that raid “casually” aren’t always the best ones to run raids with unless they’re hardcore sweats. If you mean just for the experience of knowing what a raid is like for the first time (regardless of win/lose) maybe you have a semblance of an argument but if you mean winning raids more than once, no you’re wrong in that they can’t be accessed easily because even crafting raid keys is a pain in the ass & highly inaccessible unless you’re a whale that stupidly buys raid keys with crowns and wastes more money just to enter a raid LET ALONE win. Also, most of the elite guilds that do raids and complete them successfully gatekeep and aren’t going to accept noobs joining a limited guild member spot so my point stands that the average player isn’t accessing a raid.

[@Artyom125]

@@uiucchemistry2664 raids are sweaty in every game first off. but the wiz raids are easy to get into. all the strats have guides that literally tell you what gear you need and what to do. winning a raid is not that hard if you are new. you'll probably sell the first or second run but that is why we can learn and remember and if you can actually follow the guide that guilds have posted a new player can easily understand what they need to do in a raid. there are more guilds than elite guilds. those are the extreme minority of guilds so don't try painting a picture that most guilds won't accept noobs because that is not the case. most guilds that raid usually always have a few new people doing them every time. they usually do get all the wins but still win at least twice on the rare case. you also don't need to whale to get into raids and you don't need to play like a second job either. players in every guild usually have the balance scout talent which gives you azoth for doing nothing and the second note, guilds that do raid always require everyone give the azoth from the raid to one person to craft the next key so (granted you have to win in order to get that azoth). now it's up to the player to join a guild that is a real guild and not some spontaneous commons party guild that just got made. and with key portals being a thing now joining a key portal farm discord is so easy which give each player that does a 2 hour portal around 150-200 azoth.

[@ASD_OW]

If they make it harder that would be pretty tone deaf considering most people already find raids inaccessible

[@AwesomeTheSauce]

I agree with that even though I personally found it a bit easy. in the long run I hope people don't just associate raids with something negative which seems to be a real thing in the wiz community

[@LomiKo]

honestly i dont even want raids in this game.

[@WolfTheWizard]

It's not too easy don't give kingisle ideas to make things hard, it will push people away from the game if its hard BIG TIME.

[@Emma-jx1cd]

i think they should make it so hard, no one beats it for years after its release. also they shoulvd replace all rewards from it with 10% off coupon codes for mega snack packs

[@jimmtl9736]

They should make it so insanely difficult that no one can beat it for months, and then when KI nerfs it they can add a second chance chest right at the entrance in order to ban accounts that use this chest, and then bring the servers down for a whole day inconveniencing every single player because they made a huge mistake over such a small piece of content and banned players because of their mistake! ... Why does that sound familiar

[@bobsmith5634]

No matter how easy or hard, ill never do a stupid raid. I hate that raids killed pvp

[@onimaru2933]

It's JUST RIGHT NOT TO HARD NOT TO EASY

[@jimmtl9736]

Raids don't all have to be extremely difficult :(

[@HuzzahtheHuzzah]

I think you’re wrong. I think Voracious would have been just as easy to beat if we had the knowledge of roshambo we have today. I think the players just got better overtime with their knowledge and already made gear sets. I don’t think it’s too easy

[@AwesomeTheSauce]

i disagree on the void raid as a part of one of the teams that beat it three days in. void raid had more fights and involved a lot more coordination and the puzzles took time to figure out to begin with

[@HuzzahtheHuzzah]

@@AwesomeTheSauce there were more puzzles, but I feel like those puzzles were only difficult because it was the first raid. If polaris had come before and then azteca, voracious would have DEFINITELY been finished in a day

[@unrellated]

I think they should make some lower-level raids, to get players used to the concept sooner. Avalon actually seems like a good level range to start, so go ahead and make one available as soon as the player can reach Gwen.

[@LogiicRemiix]

It’s a peice of content 15% of wizards do.. I think this will bring more players to do it not avoid it

[@bruhbruh1195]

Should keep it this way.

[@vampirellama5800]

I think the reason the people that do the raids find it too easy is because they have played the game for so long and play it religiously and for some as their job. I don't think Kingsisle should cater to the super hardcore fanbase. Imagine if all game companies catered towards speed runners and made every game so difficult just because they can beat the games so quickly, the games industry would collapse as a whole.

[@djkang9222]

They are going for a tradeoff approach so in order to maximize some stats you need to give up other stats.

[@doomguy676]

I dont think so. It's fine to have super hard raids but I think its also fine to have easier and more accessible expirences.

[@prathamvankar2401]

it's confirmed its going to increase in difficulty before reaching live realm

[@scotu9223]

36 dislikes is crazy

[@onimaru2933]

And the new pack gear is good bro

[@TravelingUnknown-sq9fs]

you all are going to be moved to a room and their going to do a rebuke. you are saved. and your pvp area has people with holy spirit along with the safe place :)

[@lifedeather]

But it’s their revenge

[@Empriction]

They made it easier for testing purposes, im sure itll be hard in live realm.

[@kazuichisouda2026]

As someone who was in the raid and is a frequent guild member, I do think the raid was a bit too easy but it's more than fixable. If they cut down on the amount of cannons you could send I'd say it'd be just about perfect. It'd make the inside people do things and it'd give the outside team time to do the secret fights if they get all their allotted cannonballs done fast.

[@davgallas]

no it's not too easy

[@thaneky]

Yes it is too easy. Raids should be an exclusive thing to tryhards and NOT FOR THE AVERAGE PLAYERS. There should be something rewarding people who are willing to put more time into the game than others. And no Im not saying this cause Im a tryhard, I dont even have a max wizard, I can just understand that PVE players’ only way of proving their skill is through raids. Also I like the way they unite people into a difficult task so they can complete it together cause 99% nowdays just solo the whole game ruining the point of the MMO in front of the RPG genre title.

[@scar18204L]

I think you should have a max wiz before typing all that

[@thaneky]

@@scar18204L And what’s the reason for that?

[@scar18204L]

@@thaneky to prevent yourself from typing this

[@thaneky]

@@scar18204L after getting my wiz to max I still stand to this point with exceptions. They shouldn’t gate keep the best gear behind raids so everyone can get the best possible stats through other means. What they SHOULD do tho is make raids more rewarding (for example having higher chances to obtain gear, chance of dropping mounts or cosmetics in general). So yes raids should be for tryhard players but they shouldn’t gate-keep gear, only make it easier to obtain through it.

[@scar18204L]

@@thaneky Jokes on you, raid gear isnt even *better*