WLToys vs Tamiya: The End of Tamiya Entry-Level RC Cars? Controversial? Really?

Are the new popular, cheap and ready-to-run RC cars like the WLToys 124019 & 144001 really the end of all Tamiya budget kits and entry-level buggies like the Tamiya TT-02B? Is it controversial? Something new? Should we be worried? ... Or did the train actually leave the station 20 or maybe even 40 years ago?
Would love to hear what YOU think in the comment section!
The WLToys 124019 and WLToys 144001 was kindly provided by Banggood, free for review and tests. You can check out the specifications and prices here with these (non-affiliate!) links:
WLToys 124019 1/12 4WD RC Car Buggy: www.banggood.c...
WLToys 144001 1/14 4WD RC Car Buggy: www.banggood.c...
The Tamiya TT-02B Dual Ridge XB 1/10 4WD Buggy was purchased several years ago at Tamico, where it is not available anymore.
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[@MarkBryanRC]

Great video, Mikael, and a very well thought out argument / discussion. I agree with your general conclusion. Other RTR brands have been available for many years, and yet Tamiya is still going strong with it's focus mainly on kit 1/10 RC cars. The markets for each are aimed at different types of hobbyists. You only have to look at the many forums to see so many people talking about their Tamiya builds, hop-ups, modifications, paint jobs, tips and tricks, and photo's and videos of their beloved cars! This doesn't really exist at the same level for the Chinese RTR market sector. As long as there are people out there who enjoy creating their own cars, and making them individual, (or personalising them), there will always be a market for Tamiya. Hope your Sunday is a good one, mate! :)

[@NordicRC]

Hi Mark! Thank you! And I think you summed it all up much quicker and better than my endless waffling 🙂 Yeah, different markets, or else Tamiya entry-level buggies would have ended already in the 00’s if not before. I think the enthusiasm about modifying, personalizing etc. have also gone into the Chinese brands, like WLToys and WPL etc though. But I still think there is no need to worry, as they can happily co-exist. My guess is that there are new entry-level Tamiya cars for many decades - with or without included ball bearings 😅 Have a great Sunday, my mate. The ☀️ is shining here ☺️

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

I also really love the Nikko, Tyco, tayio and radio shack buggies and trucks. They were well built, and tough

[@NordicRC]

Yeah! I agree. Super quality RC toy.

[@chrisevaggelou8473]

I had a Hilux RC car from Nikko it was my first RC car without a cable to the controller and I loved it and used it daily for many years. The problem came when it got smashed up. I could not re build it I just kept it in a broken state. But if it was a tamiya I would have found parts and could always find part's so for me RC cars are not a disposable hobby. This is the reason the first RC car for my kids is going to be a tamiya so that it would be around for there kids and I could fix it and hopefully my kids can learn to fix it.

[@RCKickschannel]

I think the prices you covered are a little out. I’ve just looked up a RTR XB dual edge is £272.19. I can get the WLToys 124019 for £83.09. Yes it’s hard due to different countries and shipping to be exact but it’s not even remotely the same even if you use a possible Tamiya sale price. Also like you covered it comes with no bearings, battery or metal parts at all so this extra cost has to be taken into account and makes the Tamiya even more expensive. As for durability the 124019 is stronger than the TT02B. You can bash the 019 way more than the TT02B. I’ve experienced them myself. WLToys has just put out a 1/10th RTR for £113! So it will be interesting to see how that one goes. When you break a single part on a Tamiya you have to purchase a full tree most the time. WLToys you just purchase what you need and at a fraction of the price. I was missing a single part on a Fighter Buggy RX that I have just built and to replace it was going to cost me £22! The kit was only £107 Tamiya will be loosing more and more unit sales as the competition keeps improving and that is the slow death for Tamiya’s entry level business. Don’t get me wrong I love my Tamiya kits and I’m a big fan but when I look at it from a business point of view, it’s not looking bright. Tamiya will be making most of its profits from its consumable business, paints and what have you. Great video and an interesting debate, keep up the cool vids. 👍🏻

[@NordicRC]

Thanks, bro. Yeah, it's an interesting debate. Only time will tell though, but I do not imagine as bleak a future as you :-) As said in the video I think either the interest in Tamiya entry-level kits will stay the same as it is now (no matter the price, the specs) or Tamiya will step up. They got such a strong brand that I think they can survive no matter what. The cheap high-spec RTR models has been around for many years. The situation with the WLToys 124019/18 is nothing new. I also think the price you mentioned for the TT-02B (RTR) is more than a little out. You are a little confused I think. Over 300 euro/USD for a TT-02B? :-) He he. Let me explain: The Dual Ridge XB is discontinued for a couple of years now, and what you get in your search today are prices for the last NIB's that remains on the market. And when things are discontinued the prices rise fast, if there's still a market for the item. Believe me, I've seen a lot of DF-02's, TT-02B's, DT-03's, WT-01's etc. selling for around 100-120 €/$ or just above over the years. Even a lot of the classic re-release XB models. I don't think they where quite popular so they where more often on sale than not. I am not lying about the prices. I got 6-8 XB models for around that price myself. Too tempting sometimes. I even got a couple of high-spec brushless Tamiya Levants for around that price. So the prices I mentioned is more than accurate. So the comparison with the XB models are based on the prices when they where around. As you probably know the XB line have been replaced by the XSA line now. I don't think they will go far too, prices are a little high in the beginning (especially now that they come without the radio and servo) but I have already seen the first couple of sales on them, even for under 100€. About the spare parts, I mentioned the problem about the parts-trees myself in the video. The cheaper brands win easily here. But Traxxas etc. have sold their spare parts separately for years and years, and I haven't seen Tamiya change. And all the different versions of the TT-02B kits that are still coming out, tells me, that Tamiya still has a good business going on with that platform. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. Does that make sense to you? So, yeah, I still have the same opinion. I think Tamiya will survive easily over the next couple of decades, even without lowering the price or getting the specs up. If it was a giant problem for them, loosing the entry-level market, the beginners, the kids, they would have stopped their entry-level kit production years ago. Here in Denmark and Scandinavia I can definitely see that all the big hobby shops (that are selling to beginners/parents/kids) haven't really marketed Tamiya or sold any Tamiya kits for the last 10-20 years. They have been selling ready-to-run HBX, WLToys and Traxxas. And Tamiya is still here, pushing new releases. Will be interesting to see what will happen in 30-50 years from now. They might now be around by then (if they haven't changed). But I think everything will continue as usual for the at least next 10-20 years.

[@themustangone6449]

I just recently started building tamiya cars, i like the concept because i race quadcopters with friends and started this many years ago so we would build out own quadcopters and race against each other thru gates and really the quadcopter are about the same speed but if we are generally slow or fast we adjust the gates to suit...e.g we make the track tighter. So im not a huge 6s brushless rc car guy and so i like the tamiya emphasis on stock setup so all racers are equal...however i do have some concerns coming from aircraft that i dont really love investing in the brushed system any more if its 'out of date' because some of these brushed motors are getting up there in price with brushless motors, so rather invest on what has longer life and feels 'newer', so wish the tamiya cars came with a mild brushless setup, even if its not very powerful...instead of stock brushed motors.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah. The Tamiyas are good for some friendly races. The newer Tamiya comes with a brushed/brushless ESC. So it’s quite easy to upgrade, during the build, to a mild and cheap (sensored) brushless motor. Consider the included motor as ‘free’. It doesn’t add too much to the price of the kit. But a brushless motor would. So easier and cheaper to get an own generic motor.

[@dman1848]

The Rc Market wouldnt be as fun as it has been without Tamiya.

[@NordicRC]

Definitely agree!

[@iancadwallender9779]

I don't purchase ready to run.I really enjoy the building.Its why I do it.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, I love it too. And I think even though RTR’s have taking over the market a long time ago, and even though the kits will end up costing more than the RTR’s, there will always be a a little market for those who love building the kits, and therefore Tamiya kits will never vanish 👍🏻🙂

[@philthyco1]

This is the way

[@guymarotta2596]

There is nothing better than building a kit and then watching it run as you drive it.

[@philthyco1]

@@guymarotta2596 I agree..It's fun to mod RTR rigs but building is the most rewarding

[@BenoitMarcBernardin]

I bought a tt-02B kit a few years back, with brushless setup, servo, radio and battery. Yes I paid more money than WLToys. No i do not regret my choice. HOWEVER I have to said that latest Wltoys are becoming more and more interesting (copying LC Racing). Tamiya has been deaf to feedbacks for decades and that’s where the issue is: to my opinion, to stay in the game, all the entry level kits need oil shocks, ball bearings, and ditch the plastic transmission AS STANDARD.

[@NordicRC]

I think they will stay in the game no matter what. There is still quite much interest to their entry-level kits - not in any way sales compared to WLToys etc, but I think it is enough to stay in the game. So I don’t think they will change anything (in the near future anyway). I’m not too disappointed with their gears. Many of the Tamiya plastic gears are more durable than cheap metal ones. Only need to upgrade them if one puts in an insane motor or power source. And most of their buggy entry-level lines (TT-02B and DT-03) already come with oil filled shocks. But we could definitely need ball bearings and turn buckles. But Ai doubt it will happen as long as enough people are buying Tamiya.

[@philthyco1]

Hop up's are what entry level Tamiya kits are made for though

[@philthyco1]

@@NordicRC I agree

[@K-Anator]

Even though I own about 5 Tamiya cars, I've never had the pleasure of building a kit from the ground up. I bought a number of vintage cars last year after finding my dad's Super Hornet, and I've certainly had a blast fixing them up and rebuilding them. My current favourite to drive is a Stadium Blitzer, that according to the etching on the bottom, was originally built in 1993, 4 days after my 4th birthday. I've had to frankenstein the rear shock mount, as both of the Blitzers in my lot had cracked mounts, but it's just so much fun with a 16 turn Speedworks Monstermash that's as old as me. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in grabbing something like one of those WLToys cars, but if I had to choose between a new Tamiya model and the WL, I'd probably still go with the Tamiya even if it cost a bit more.

[@NordicRC]

Very nice to hear your Tamiya story. Yeah, there is certainly a lot of history in Tamiya that the WLToys etc. can’t provide for natural reasons 🙂

[@hollyhillrc]

For someone who doesn't know much about Tamiya and WLToys and is interested in taking up the hobby this is a very good explanation. For somebody like me who does know about Tamiya and WLToys this is very interesting and unbiased. I really enjoyed listening to your views Mikael. 🙂👍

[@NordicRC]

Thank you so much, Derek! Wish I could have done it in half the time, but you know me, when I start waffling I waffle forever 😅🙂

[@hollyhillrc]

@@NordicRC 😄 I love a good Scandinavian waffle. Usually with syrup or butter 😁👍👍

[@GDIdoujinmediaworks]

While this video is about buggies, don't forget about the licensed onroad cars. Building and customizing licensed cars from scratch -- complete with custom paint jobs, LED lights, onboard action cameras, and even interiors and engine sounds -- while most people who do this use drift chassis, Tamiya just makes it possible with their TT02 and M05/06 entry level kits. The car you build is yours and there's nothing like it out there. I am pretty sure should WLToys start selling officially licensed makes their prices will go up to around the same price as Tamiya's.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, that’s a very good point. Tamiya definitely has a large part of the market there. But they have also lost most of the crawler/truck market in the last 20 years, where people also are customizing. Both to Axial, RC4WD, Traxxas etc but also to (non-licensed trucks) WPL and the likes. But I also see a lot of RTR’s dominating there. But both markets, I think, is still reserved for hobbyists. The big market, the real entry-level and beginner market, where most cars are sold still belong to toy brands and the new cheap hobby-grade stuff like WLToys, HBX. But again, like you say, Tamiya still have a fair share of the kit market, and therefore it will be a long long time before they vanish.

[@beesod6412]

I love my kits, Building is just as much fun for me as driving is. Maybe more! Tamiya kits will always be in demand and for RTR I've found several of those WLtoys RCs to be really solid vehicles. I think both have a place in the hobby, Thank you for your thoughts on this!

[@NordicRC]

Thank you for the comment! Yeah, I see no need to worry. Plenty of room on the market for both WLToys and Tamiya and everybody else 🙂👍🏻

[@janhummler490]

As i got RTRs and some Tamiyas myself, i think there is a place for both of them. RTR gets you running fast and without much time spend. It brings ppl to the hobby. Many of my clubmembers starter with RTR vehicles but nearly every one of them bought at least onr Tamiya kit in the meantime. With kits you build a kind of relationship with your car. Also helps with repairs and maintenance cause you know every screw personally. I myself starter some 15 years ago with a TA-04S as my entry car in touring car racung in a local club. And i still got and it's still running. Got converted to rally but it's running. Even still got my WR-01 from that time. It's still loads of fun.

[@NordicRC]

Very good points, I agree. I think Tamiya never has had a big share of the market for people’s first RC. Many in the 1980s started out with a Nikko or Taiyo or two and many today start out with a WLToys or two. And if they move on from there then they will most likely at some point get a Tamiya kit, or a Traxxas, Arrma RTR or whatever suits them the most. So cool classic Tamiyas you have. Also got a WR-01. Tons of fun. Thanks a lot for watching and the comment, mate.

[@dsoupashis]

Thank you great video, I agree with what you said, only down point is is that it seems to be mainly us who have the nostalgia from playing with them from back in the late 70's, 80's and possibly 90's, The question is are Tamiya laying roots for other kids to have the nostalgia like we did when they reach our age I think not anymore. We were definitely the lucky age group of the golden RC era in my opinion. Bring out new buggies with great names again and not just numbers.

[@NordicRC]

Thank you! Yeah, been wondering about that too. Maybe WLToys will bring out an A959-B re-release in the year of 2055. But I must say I doubt it. I think many kids that have bought an A959 or similar in these days, use it in the category of ‘buy it, use it for a couple of times, throw it away or get a new one’. So in 30 years I don’t see the same nostalgia as with a Tamiya kit in the 1980’s that one saved up money for, built and run and repaired for years. Sadly. Yeah. We are the lucky age group when it comes to RC’s I think.

[@dsoupashis]

@@NordicRC totally agree my friend! 👌🏻

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

I am a huge fan of the early Tamiya qd trucks like the midnight pumpkin qd. They were 225 back in 1989 and ready to run out of the box. I’m also a big fan of the Tamiya kits, but you can’t beat the wl toys stuff. It’s tough, easy to mod, and good aftermarket parts availability.

[@NordicRC]

Would love to try one of those QD trucks some day. I’ve had a couple of the QD on road touring cars.

[@sheiladavis2304]

well i hate to be on the side of evil but it was the wltoys 144001 that got me back into RCing about a year and a half ago. I felt a little guilty but what a blast for the buck. i put in a gens ace 2s 2200mah and was blown away! its still going strong as i now run an arrma s3 granite 3s blx. i know its not a buggy racer but we cant forget the RC world is mostly about having fun and whatever puts a smile on your face is for you!

[@NordicRC]

No evil sides here 🙂 That was indeed the point of the video. Room enough for both WLToys and Tamiya and Arrma on the market.

[@PeteWylieRC]

Well thought out chat Mikael. I think the main thing like you say is that so long as we are buying them, why would Tamiya change? If they have the market share that they want then they don't need to improve the specs or lower the prices. I'm not a fan of the Tamiya RTR's and have never bought one, mainly because building them is such fun. Also the fact that you can build improvements in from the start. Like you say I'm sure that they will be with us for years to come. Happy Saturday mate :-)

[@NordicRC]

Hi Pete! Thanks, just wish I could have made this video half-as-long 🙂😅 And yeah, no big changes coming and Tamiya will definitely be around in 20 years with new entry-levels and all kind of stuff, whether or not they lower their prices or upgrade. Yeah, would rather build them myself, but sometimes the prices sale prices on these Xb models get too tempting for me. Especially when I know O wont have time to build it myself, or/and the kit costs much more than the XB on sale. Happy Saturday and weekend. Take it easy tonight so you can enjoy the Sunday 😉😅🙂

[@madsrcbuggy]

It's a good talk, interesting topic! My story is a little weird but quite relevant to this: So I was child in the 80'ies and I had Tamiya. Fast forward to 2019, I decided to buy an RC car again, just for fun. I checked around on the internet and I ended up on Banggood, of course. I ordered a nice Feiyue and while I was waiting for it to be shipped, I went over to Teknikmagasinet and picked up a WLToys. So those were available to me, Tamiya seemed shrouded in mystery. In fact, I didn't actually properly know if Tamiya still existed, only found out a bit later and of course started buying Tamiya kits and building them, I felt I was back in the hobby again! The cheaper Chinese cars, yeah they are a lot of fun, and they are quite good, too. Long Scandinavian waffle from here also, ha ha, have a nice weekend there!

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, when I got back to the hobby in 2013 I never saw any Tamiya products. So I got an HBX, or a couple, and a year after I discovered Tamiya. So Tamiya’s entry-level buggies aren’t really never entry-level. Most people start with something else, and if they continue, they discover Tamiya, or Arrma or Axial or whatever that appeals to them the most. So there’s definitely room for everything on the market and Tamiya will stay in business no matter how cheap the cheap brands get 🙂 And yeah, the cheap ones are fun too. Room enough for everything ☺️ I always enjoy some good Scandinavian waffling 😅 Have a great weekend too, bro.

[@bradkalman2353]

don't forget you could probably take that dual ridge and give you the adjustability if you want as an aftermarket from them or someone else.

[@sheiladavis2304]

ps those towers bend back pretty easy.lol also wanted to say, i liked the pros and cons of both. great subject.

[@NordicRC]

Thank you Sheila! The towers of the WLToys? Yeah alloy bends back easily. But the bend creates a weak spot/line in the alloy which will never go away. So if they are bend and bend back, they will most likely bend again really really easy.

[@sheiladavis2304]

@@NordicRC yes i know what you mean but not the best alloy either. definitely not hardened.

[@allyliddiard7320]

One thing that I can't stand about a lot of modern buggies/trucks is the paint jobs. Explosions of 90s "to the XTREME" colours designed by someone on their ninth energy drink of the morning.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, I hear you. Some of the new ones definitely is a bit xtreme The 144001 looks good though.

[@Nlangkirby135]

I really think there are markets for both Wltoys and Tamiya. Btw, with a littile upgrading, you could make your tamiya 4wd entry level buggy as fast as the WLToys 124019.

[@Nlangkirby135]

I am still waiting for the WLToys 104001 to be released, though.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, I absolutely agree. Room enough for both. Yeah, it’s an easy upgrade. Got a lot of Tamiyas faster than the WLToys. And a new TT-02B project starting today 🤭🙂

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, would love to try out that one.

[@Nlangkirby135]

@@NordicRC, my Tamiya Zahhak can run as fast as a Traxxas Bandit XL-5... it is currently equipped with a 12t 550 motor with a 1060 quicrun brushed esc.

[@NBC_NCO]

The big gain is in the price point as you mentioned. Even Traxxas had kits and rtr. The rtr is cheap in comparison to the kit of the same exact product.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, cheapest way to get an RC out and running is going with an RTR these days 🙂 I think Traxxas was the first in the world to produce hobby-grade RTR’s.

[@AndyMoulton]

I liked this video, but I think the running performance is also a huge part of the comparison. For the money, which one goes faster, has better handling, etc etc

[@NordicRC]

Yeah. I actually cut away a more thorough talk about that from the video. It was much too long already. I still mention a little about the shocks and performance. I don’t think there is much difference. But the WLToys definitely has a better shock set up and speed.

[@calvincrane]

I will always remember one of the best xmas presents ever my Tamiya Hornet 😍

[@NordicRC]

I got a lot of Nikkos and Taiyos back then. Never knew Tamiya existed back in thwe 1980s. So cool you got a Hornet

[@juliusdream2683]

My WLtoys 12 scale car that you’re showing if it cartwheeled a few times it was loose mine exploded on a turn it was hilarious 😂. The back end literally exploded from strain there were pieces everywhere. Had tamiya cars they rarely broke a piece here and there but they’re QUALITY Tamiya.

[@NordicRC]

Uhh doesn’t sound too good you are right ☺️

[@paulmcnamara16]

Oh My God the Jet Hopper my first RC oh I miss that buggy!

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, both the Jet Hopper and Turbo Panther are legendary icons of the 1980s.

[@DutchUnited71]

The Super Avante seems cool on the buggy Type Tamiya front. Anyway, I love my TT-0x Rally cars.

[@NordicRC]

Me too. And Looking forward for the Super Avante

[@DutchUnited71]

@@NordicRC I saw it costs 500 euro!

[@DutchUnited71]

Euro 305,99 for the TAMIYA 58696 Super Avante

[@bradkalman2353]

They stop making the xb's they could call the excesses now where you have to add the electronics to it and ball bearings of course.

[@ponzifon_rc]

Be careful with the Tamiya. Shock towers and arms might snap. They are very fragile 😅

[@NordicRC]

Ahh, not all. Depends on which model. But yeah, Tamiya sure has used some wrong brittle plastic and designs for towers and arms along the way. The TT-02B is fairly durable though. Good arms, Good chassis. But yeah, a bit fragile these towers.

[@shortclipsvictoria789]

China may have brought the price way down on RC, but in many ways they are ruining the hobby. There is way too much product being produced and it's starting to look like the Iphone sales model. Produce as many new products as you can and stop offering support for older product to force you to buy more new toys/models. A lot of the the new players in RC also aren't spending money on R&D. They're just cloning models of companies that spend the time and money to produce an amazing product. I think product like Traxxas is overpriced for what you get, but they have decades of trial and error behind them.

[@NordicRC]

I agree to a certain point, they, the cheap brands, do not bring any innovation with them. But they push the older brands to come up with innovation … Think about the Grasshopper and Hornet. Not a clever design performance wise, but a new way to design and market affordable buggies, that became extremely popular. So popular that all the toy brands of the 80s copied the set-up and style and also made a lot of money. But Tamiya still sold a lot of Hoppers for a decade or so. And even though the TRX-4 and others are copied in similar fashion today, Traxxas still sells a lot of TRX-4. Don’t think the big brands can get harmed unless they screw it up for themselves at some point. I think even ‘middle-brands’ can survive today. If you compare an LC Racing buggy that the WLToys base (copy?) their new buggies on, there’s still a gap between them, quality wise, and I bet always people that choose the quality.

[@bradkalman2353]

I've never seen you run this one they're going to run it and GPS it?

[@NordicRC]

Which one? Plenty of videos with both the WLToys and Tamiya on the channel.

[@bradkalman2353]

Think I told you that in 2019 nikko got bought out again and they're making vehicles again I think I would love to see them revisit their old stuff from their past from the '80s and the 90s all those wonderful cars again I should do that and show the toymaker should revisit some of their old cars cuz Nikko had some great stuff 25-30 years ago and longer ago.

[@bradkalman2353]

Don't get me wrong I would love to have the new 12 scale WL toy cars.

[@lindasoutner279]

I respect tamiya. I own wltoys and am happy with them. I also like modifying my Wltoys and fixing them. I noticed tamiya are not really.... For running...they are more for the build. I haven't seen tamiya speed runs. But i understand why ppl like tamiya... Like models

[@NordicRC]

I definitely run my Tamiya a lot. But yeah, demands a little more time and money to get them up to the same running performance like WLToys etc. I like them both though 🙂

[@VestedUTuber]

Honestly, I wouldn't even compare the WLToys 124019 or 144001 to anything Tamiya makes, because Tamiya doesn't make any sub-1/10th scale 4WD buggies at the moment if you exclude their _non-RC_ Mini4WD line. The 104001 is far more comparable to the TT-02B. That being said, I don't consider it a threat in any way, even if it otherwise would be one. The 104001 is actually a _significantly higher end_ platform than the TT-02B or DF-03, being based on an XRAY XB4, but it also runs wonky electronics and to upgrade them you have to replace everything all at once, so while it's a cheap starter car it doesn't really _stay_ cheap.

[@NordicRC]

The 104001 wasn't released at the time of this video :-)

[@rctaz990]

All cars are beautiful in their own way. Ive got an FTX vantage brushed. I think I'll put a brushless set up if anybody has advice on a got motor esc etc.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah. There are lots of cool stuff to choose from. For budget brushless set ups I’ve had good luck with Hobbywing and GoolRC.

[@cw-01creations46]

RC TAZ : Absima Thrust BL ECO Brushless Combo Set, 3421kv, 2s/3s Lipo + NiMH compatible, Uber reliable and programmable too, about a 10t I think. OCDAY Combo Set, 3900kv, 60a ESC, 2s/3s + NiMH compatible, about a 10t and also programmable. I've had many, many hours of fun running brushless and just as many hours running brushed too 😎

[@rctaz990]

@@cw-01creations46 thanks bro sounds great.

[@cw-01creations46]

@@rctaz990 you're Welcome 😎

[@BenoitMarcBernardin]

I can recommand the ROBITRONIC 3250kv combo, basically cheap Hobbywings. It's not to violent and silk smooth in 2s, a ripper in 3.

[@problemchild1976]

I had the 144001 delivered last month with 3 x 2s LiPo (the bigger ones) for £92 - it’s pretty good but the diffs are not very tough :) but very cheap for spares

[@NordicRC]

That sounds like a good bargain! Nice.

[@problemchild1976]

@@Wyatt843 does your diff click?

[@problemchild1976]

@@Wyatt843 my diffs were greased but I added more and they click on sharp turns on tarmac

[@problemchild1976]

@@Wyatt843 what LiPo is yours running?

[@Allthrashedout.]

I wish id known i could get parts for my f10 loved that thing..broke the diff:(

[@bradkalman2353]

When are you going to build this one?

[@NordicRC]

Which one?

[@bradkalman2353]

@@NordicRC it was another Tamiya buggy you showed in the video.

[@bradkalman2353]

Let's get don't forget Tamia does have almost ready to run and they used to make ready to runs

[@kkam7044]

I personally feel that if one is just wanting to bash then the wltoys is awesome, where I believe the quality of finish stands out is in the small scale mini z’s, there is where I feel the money is well worth it

[@NordicRC]

I agree. Uhh, yeah, seen a lot of videos with the Mini Z. Looks amazingly detailed and of great quality. Hoping to get one some day 🙂

[@itsalexplayz2782]

Wow! Very well made video!

[@NordicRC]

Thank you! Much too long in my opinion though 😅🙂

[@GTMatukka]

Keep 'em running Mikael! At first you got me for a sec but as the video went on, it was all ok 😎 Yes, when you buy Tamiya branded stuff, you get QUALITY, If it was tools,paints, scale models etc. , you always know what to expect. In the scale model sector, there's many competitors with very good quality like Meng, RFM, MiniArt, HobbyBoss, Border Model (a new company), Dragon, Takom, ICM and Zoukei-Mura for example. Tamiya has still the best manuals imo. For me, WLToys are a bit tasteless and non-excitement giving, odorless as some say.

[@GTMatukka]

I forgot to say, a good video. 🙂

[@NordicRC]

Keep ‘em running, yeah 🙂 And yes, I will gladly pay the extra bucks to get a real manual and pieces that go together 🙂 I like WLToys very much. But I love Tamiya 😍🥰🙂

[@NordicRC]

And thank you, bro!

[@darkki94]

124019 is under 100$ .. it's basically unbeatable for the price.

[@NordicRC]

A good price for sure!

[@darkiee69]

There's one thing that bothers me with the WLToys 124019. It's the number on the roof of the car. Shouldn't it be 19? 😉

[@NordicRC]

At least it doesn’t say ‘headphones’ like the A959-B 😅🙂

[@darkiee69]

@@NordicRC 😂

[@R-EVLMNKY]

@@NordicRC 🤣🤣🤣

[@Allthrashedout.]

19 ? May as well Call it the covid buggy! 😂 Ive got one i love it!!

[@bradkalman2353]

Yeah but there's still a lot of us our age that still would prefer to build them.

[@Godidear]

Either tamiya lower the price or up the specs they really have no choice and when these other companies starts selling kits that's really going to change the game.....

[@NordicRC]

Don’t think they will lower the prices or up the specs if there’s still a good market and they sell anyway 😅

[@Godidear]

@@NordicRC I dont know tamiya aren't cheap anymore lol

[@antssaar863]

At Tamya price range can get lots of stuff from FS racing or ZD racing to. I got fs victory fro 162 eur (depending on day and store price is somewhere between 160-190 eur). For that You get 1/10 rtr brushless truggy with 3kv motor and 3s.. Spare and upgrade parts are cheap + readily available. These cars sell under quite few different names, jamara tigers are same thing as example. Only downside of it was servo that is bit weak but that's easy/cheap upgrade as they use standard 3 wire servos :)

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, exactly, lots of other cheaper brands to choose from, with higher specs than Tamiya for the same price. Been like that for a long time. So it’s not controversial or new. And Tamiya will probably continue selling their cars at the same price. ... Sounds like an awesome rig you have there. Must be fast with 3S 🙂

[@antssaar863]

@@NordicRC I'm quite happy with it and yes, it is fast. Other downside is, by default, wheelie bar is useless (needs to be flipped around), lol. But it comes with Flysky gt6 controller/flysky receiver and battery is 6000mah by what's written on it (there's lots of text, lot of spelling mistakes and stuff that makes no sense). By my charger its bout 5500mah and last surprisingly well/over year abuse now. Its very easy/fast to disassemble to. Easy clean/repair, simplistic but quite sturdy. Can get from ali/bangood. Mine is from bang :)

[@NordicRC]

Got a lot from Banggood too. Only been disappointed a couple of times.

[@antssaar863]

@@NordicRC But same time, more and more people can afford Tamyas and that name alone sells, even if there's stuff that outperforms it on same price or cheaper. Completely agree on that Tamya don't really have reason to change things for some time (thou would be nice if they step up their game a bit).

[@antssaar863]

@@NordicRC That's not only market where chinese stuff is causing problems. Like Rc tanks, henglong is taking nice part from that pie. Crawler market is also overrun by wpl, mn, jjrc, HG-P etc :)

[@bradkalman2353]

Yeah but that car is 12 scale compared to a 10 scale. Yes it comes with more standard features but it's smaller Tamiya I have a cat's better range of ability to change the motor on it.

[@R-EVLMNKY]

If only tamiya will make their parts accessible by other site like banggood or aliexpress etc...(not just ebay, rcmart) parts are not always ready available for easy access even availability not to mention expensive given all factors. Reason why I stop buying tamiya and just watch them here from Nordic 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@NordicRC]

I shop nearly all my Tamiya parts at Tamico. And then there is EuroRC and Modelsport. And also Tony’s at eBay. Plenty of parts I think. But I agree with you. Could be good with even more worldwide dealers. One issue is also that Tamiya has so many cars out that the full selection of all spare parts and upgrades are difficult for dealers. But thanks a lot for watching, my mate.

[@c.k.hobbyshop3351]

TAMIYA Forever ❤

[@NordicRC]

😍👍🏻

[@ericwood2790]

Well said

[@NordicRC]

Thank you, Eric!

[@richjames1595]

Yeah RCMart have put prices up by 20-80% on all tamiya RC it could be the US $ but that's me i'm not paying $25 more for a lesser spec fire dragon than what I did 6 months ago for a full spec terror scorcher. And it's the postage seems to have nearly doubled not too bad though we will have a recession soon and tamiya will have to pull there finger out or there RC sales will just die.

[@NordicRC]

Hi Rich. Yeah, prices have really gone up. I just hope everything returns to normal when the Virus is (maybe) a bit more controllable with vaccines etc. but we will have to wait and see.

[@hubokus]

i like the a949

[@NordicRC]

Me too 🙂 Never had one, but have several of the A959-69-79.

[@hubokus]

@@NordicRC i have a couple of videos on mine with another one coming up today about fixing the steering

[@camrowdrone6497]

Same here Tamiya price has gone up with all this virus 🦠👍🏻

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, I remember when the DT-03 was about 50-60 euro. Now it is more like 80-100 euro. Hope it will return to normal again some day.

[@alphawlff]

WLToys has a 1/10 buggy coming that will be the true game changer as it has some features found on high end racing buggies.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, looking forward seeing that one. But it keeps disappearing for pre-orders. Maybe some COVID-delays.

[@lucionjay5376]

All about tamiya

[@rckids6557]

Hai friend.

[@NordicRC]

Hi bro 🙂

[@mathiaskimpel3296]

Tamiya 4 ever

[@NordicRC]

Definitely! 🥰

[@frankruland5596]

TAMIYA

[@NordicRC]

😍

[@kynghype9715]

GTFOH