Woke Colleges vs Testing

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John Stossel

John Stossel

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@Angl0sax0nknight
@Angl0sax0nknight 3 жыл бұрын
Lowering the standards just lowers the quality of the students..
@danielan962
@danielan962 3 жыл бұрын
profits over education
@catiex8826
@catiex8826 3 жыл бұрын
its why america is falling and china is rising, there they try to make boys more masculine and are concerned with advancement, here we want to ... well do the opposite. the west must fall, its time is over sadly
@danielan962
@danielan962 3 жыл бұрын
nah I disagree, it's the same everywhere, but the standards for education are a bit higher in asia, but also the best schools are still in the more affluent neighborhoods just like in America in the end whoever has the most money will have their kids having more resources for a proper education, but if we want to give every poor person a decent education it'll cost a lot of money, and generally the schools in America pushing for diversity and pity acceptance are public schools so in the long run it'll just hurt the poor and middle classes even more.
@martinez1701a
@martinez1701a 3 жыл бұрын
Its done on purpose they want to dumb down the population, look at whats going on today most people believe in psuedo science than actual science. Makes for a population thats easier to control.
@thomasrobinson182
@thomasrobinson182 3 жыл бұрын
So when your brain surgeon mentions 'parts is parts', should you worry?
@todd1701
@todd1701 3 жыл бұрын
Most colleges don't care if you're a lousy student, they only care how much money you can borrow to keep them employed.
@flashgordon6510
@flashgordon6510 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@GTSN38
@GTSN38 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@johnbaker7322
@johnbaker7322 3 жыл бұрын
And they triply don't care if you don't wind up employed afterward, especially long term. If some company gives you a chance and fires you after a month because you don't know your stuff or lack in work ethic because you never had to try, they can still claim they have a high job placement rate. Or they can just ignore it altogether and focus on telling students and parents what businesses and careers their best students wind up in.
@darylfoster6133
@darylfoster6133 3 жыл бұрын
College is a massive bureaucracy. The number of employees they have outside of the job of actual teaching is mind boggling.
@1flash3571
@1flash3571 3 жыл бұрын
@@Name-cz5jj That makes too much sense for WOKE. You need to tone it down buddy.
@tmatt1999
@tmatt1999 3 жыл бұрын
I had a C to B average in high school. We couldn't afford an SAT test prep class. I purchased an SAT Test Prep book used from the library for 50 cents. I went through it and removed all the markings that the original owner put in it with whiteout that a teacher gave me. I went back and worked every problem in the book and took all the practice tests and scored 1350 out of 1600 on the SAT. The problem still wasn't solved because I couldn't afford to go to college so I went into the Marines and when I got out, I finally went to college and graduated with a degree in Engineering. I'm being told now that I was able to become an engineer because of my white privilege; however, I may look white but I am Hispanic.
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 3 жыл бұрын
You just proved that hard work pays off.
@johnisaacburns7260
@johnisaacburns7260 3 жыл бұрын
they say to never "dont judge a book by its cover", and "dont be racist", and "dont be sexist", then turn around and do the same fucking thing.
@richardghost5701
@richardghost5701 3 жыл бұрын
What you are is a great, hard working human being mate.
@chieflouie2821
@chieflouie2821 3 жыл бұрын
The dems are removing personal responsibility in America. Its what conservatives have that they dont.
@matthewvanrite9440
@matthewvanrite9440 3 жыл бұрын
Oo F'ing Ra
@aaroncutting
@aaroncutting 3 жыл бұрын
We were poor, but my mom got me study material for the ACT and made me take practice tests 6-7 times and the real test twice. Got into my first choice school, graduated recently and am now working as an engineer.
@steveshabino5540
@steveshabino5540 3 жыл бұрын
In the early 90's, it never occurred to me or my family that I ought to enroll in ACT/SAT test prep courses. I prepared using free materials plus perhaps $50 of test prep books. I scored well and was awarded a 75% tuition scholarship at my preferred school (not much of a stretch in retrospect), an otherwise expensive private one. I've half-joked that I've yet to earn the equivalent hourly wage that I achieved from spending around 50 hours preparing for the ACT/SAT. My mother was a librarian, and my father was a janitor - hardly privileged by most standards (although I did not go without as a child). I did not attend a "competitive" high school at which I could have distinguished myself in the eyes of college recruiters. Required standardized testing has had a significantly positive impact on the course of my life.
@samk2266
@samk2266 3 жыл бұрын
the woke clan saying that SAT scores are biased or racist because 'richer' or 'whiter' kids 'get to' study for it is a complete sham. They know that white and asian students are just smarter blacks & hispanics so they are trying to ram rod in a bunch of dumb students that don't belong in top tier schools.. the result is they will no longer be top tier schools.
@stonefox9124
@stonefox9124 3 жыл бұрын
Home schooled, poor, my IQ is 136. Get ur kids OUT! Schools are compromised
@iarreolav
@iarreolav 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you
@hectorr1340
@hectorr1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@samk2266 What
@AppleMenace
@AppleMenace 3 жыл бұрын
Why allow only smart kids to give you money, when you can have all of them give you money.
@bshingledecker
@bshingledecker 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo. I bet we will see more govt subsidies and loans given with no requirements.
@clemfandango5908
@clemfandango5908 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@tazjam12
@tazjam12 3 жыл бұрын
Because they get Government funding dependent upon grades, not to mention peer review recognition in papers and magazines, which recruits more students. They could become an "easier" school, but the lower grades would mean less government funding, which means lowering tuition instead of raising it to "constantly meet demands".
@deesmith8576
@deesmith8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@tazjam12 well you know they are going to complain that little timmy not getting free money because his grades or bad or they will just make professor give every kid an A for skipping class.
@Phisherman10
@Phisherman10 3 жыл бұрын
Poor kids are just as smart as white kids...
@SkinnyCow.
@SkinnyCow. 3 жыл бұрын
The "every child is special" and "my child can't miss out" mentality. This aint the real world Goldylocks.
@GTSN38
@GTSN38 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you have something wrong with you, you can do college. You don't have to be special just not lazy.
@mycollegeshirt
@mycollegeshirt 3 жыл бұрын
conservatives live in a dream world, you guys can barely finish highschool, yet alone college, most conservative colleges are a joke, then have the nerve to lecture liberals on how to teach.. ok. how about you guys just stop complaining and just go to your own garbage colleges?
@lawsonharrison6927
@lawsonharrison6927 3 жыл бұрын
@@mycollegeshirt Its hard to say who's a conservative seeing as how they are generally unwelcome in universities.
@lawsonharrison6927
@lawsonharrison6927 3 жыл бұрын
@@mycollegeshirt Consider my mind blown
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't understand why kids keep failing out. It's like they're not prepared for the rigors of a prestigious university!"
@DroneDialogues
@DroneDialogues 3 жыл бұрын
I went to college after the military and barely pulled off a B average in high school. I knew I needed to pick up the slack. Low SAT scores too. I knew part of me getting into the school was being a minority. I had to work my butt off just to pull off a B average. Meanwhile I knew kids who had SAT scores in the 1400s and above with perfect GPAs who didn’t last a year. Sometimes it’s about the scores. Sometimes it’s laziness. Sometimes it’s the inability to tune out distractions. Race and privilege shouldn’t have anything to do with the equation. Edit: I’m not disagreeing with you BTW. I’m just offering a certain perspective that tells you a ton of people shouldn’t be going to college even with good grades.
@wolfpack4128
@wolfpack4128 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, soon they'll attack colleges as being racist for failing a disproportionate amount of BIPOCs they forced through the door. At that point affirmative action will be extended to grading people based on more than just their work. Then, when you go see a doctor, you won't know if they actually passed med school based on achievements or if they were pushed through to fill a quota. Isn't collectivism just great.
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfpack4128 can't wait for med school students to rise through the ranks through "social advancement" rather than doing the work. 😝
@teekay_1
@teekay_1 3 жыл бұрын
@@DroneDialogues Then do this... make student with low SAT scores provisional. If they don't score a 2.5 GPA or higher after the first year, they're out. Problem solved.
@eiwo323s
@eiwo323s 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, this comes at a very precarious time. I think both arguments are useless. The world is changing where now machine learning/(AI), automation, and freely accessible information and problem-solving power are threatening higher learning in general. With these factors, testing is an outdated system. But in general, information and how we learn via college may become outdated too. Google is already ditching college requirements, which is the platform that is hosting this video.
@Sly_404
@Sly_404 3 жыл бұрын
"Test optional" - yeah try that in global competition.
@brandyh3536
@brandyh3536 3 жыл бұрын
Or in real life.
@noirekuroraigami2270
@noirekuroraigami2270 3 жыл бұрын
How far are you in life??? What kind of engineer are you? After college what are you contributing to the global competition.
@bradroth2249
@bradroth2249 3 жыл бұрын
The ACT and SAT testing is counterintuitive to how well you will do in your gender studies class.
@brandyh3536
@brandyh3536 3 жыл бұрын
@@noirekuroraigami2270 far enough to know if i expected things to be given to me just because, i would be very far. I'm where i am because I knew i had to work for it and earn it.
@seafoam6119
@seafoam6119 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the testing method is dogshit since students forget everything post test. This is just putting a bandaid over a severed limb. The best way is to change schooling completely.
@HarryPrimate
@HarryPrimate 3 жыл бұрын
In Georgia, several years ago, there was a scandal in the Atlanta school district. Teachers were changing students test scores in order for these students to qualify for scholarships through the Hope Foundation, this means more money for these schools. Colleges began to question why they were getting students with only a third grade reading level, or math level. In the end, about a dozen teachers and administrators were tried, convicted, and sent to jail.
@mojopare8954
@mojopare8954 3 жыл бұрын
Great !
@als3022
@als3022 3 жыл бұрын
This was also linked to the idea they were starting to practice in Atlanta that the teachers salary was directly linked to test scores. Desperation and funding led to it. I remember cause I got my certificate to teach right as that mess made all the hiring for teachers a mess itself.
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@gerardcote8391
@gerardcote8391 3 жыл бұрын
@@als3022 problem with that approach is grade inflation, and teachers only wanting to teach the AP classes and not interested in the special needs students.
@als3022
@als3022 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerardcote8391 Oh believe me I understand all the problems that it causes. Even worse was the fact that the schools tried to implement the idea that the entire county should have the same tests. They tried to get us to work together with all the other schools to come up with a universal test. Yeah that isn't a terrible idea that will make teachers teach the test not test what they teach. No way that'd happen.
@CaptainQueue
@CaptainQueue 3 жыл бұрын
Everything "diversity" touches, mediocrity results.
@entity6966
@entity6966 3 жыл бұрын
Mediocrity isn't what results, it's pure disappointment
@inalienablerights
@inalienablerights 3 жыл бұрын
Like your grasp of sentence structure.
@trollhunter6934
@trollhunter6934 3 жыл бұрын
I think their slogan is: if we can't achieve anything, neither can you
@SuperMinnesota2
@SuperMinnesota2 3 жыл бұрын
@@inalienablerights Says the genius who posts a sentence fragment.
@American_Liberty
@American_Liberty 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMinnesota2 You're projecting.
@elias_xp95
@elias_xp95 3 жыл бұрын
That fucking TEDtalk had me rolling on the floor. "If you make the barrier to entry easier, more people will enter" Like no shit Einstein.
@josephstalin7389
@josephstalin7389 3 жыл бұрын
You at least need a iq score to predict the results
@ryankelsey9646
@ryankelsey9646 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of George Carlin's rant about someday only needing a pencil to get into college.
@mjt1813
@mjt1813 3 жыл бұрын
And they still won’t succeed
@paulskopic5844
@paulskopic5844 3 жыл бұрын
We will then turn out more underwater basket weaving professionals.
@MrVpassenheim
@MrVpassenheim 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephstalin7389 A good IQ score is only a partial component (and a minor one, really) for being successful in college.
@truckerenoch8824
@truckerenoch8824 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I had a little moisture in my eyes when the kid at 3:45 got his acceptance and how genuinely excited his classmates were! That reaction can only come by earning something fair and square, not having it handed to you because of the color of your skin!
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about earning stuff but need to tell you I witnessed the same type of reaction by a group of students that scammed their way into a particular college. They were screaming and cheering and dancing like crazy. All because they “gamed” the system to get into a college that wouldn’t take them based on their actual grades and test scores. None of them made it through their first year. Some of them then tried to get into the local community college but were told that they needed too much remedial classes. It was kind of sad but they got what they deserved. These were the children of the people that cheered like crazy when OJ was found not guilty.
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
True
@warmike
@warmike Жыл бұрын
@@prepperjonpnw6482 I think this is that exact clip
@bigisrick
@bigisrick 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I went to college in the early 2000s. Even then the wokeness was invading, but social media was luckily still in its infancy
@thomasmarston8232
@thomasmarston8232 3 жыл бұрын
I am 30 years old and if I was going to college today I don’t even know if I would make it through
@mtlhd777
@mtlhd777 3 жыл бұрын
Me too luckily. I saw the agenda in early 1999/2000 but it wasn't all consuming like it is now.
@richardthenryvideos
@richardthenryvideos 3 жыл бұрын
Yep you and me both. I graduated when Obama was elected. I wasn't really much into politics anyway but nevertheless it's been a massive downhill spiral ever since. And I went to college in a university in California
@donquijote6030
@donquijote6030 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, went to college in the early 2000's. It was painful to listen to woefully ignorant lectures at that time, but it is much worse today. Every facet of life has been infected by this leftist disease and we would all do well to combat it.
@tmiranda1379
@tmiranda1379 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@josephschmeggins6311
@josephschmeggins6311 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell spoke on this years ago. Opening Harvard, MIT and Princeton to lower performing students causes them to struggle and fail whereas if they went to a less demanding college they could excel, albeit at a different pace.
@douglloyd527
@douglloyd527 3 жыл бұрын
If they can even afford it. HAHA
@quentin8041
@quentin8041 3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t allowing unqualified students to get into these schools it’s getting rid of an unnecessary metric that’s not truly standardized
@grantjohnson5785
@grantjohnson5785 3 жыл бұрын
@@quentin8041 How exactly is it "not truly standardized"? Everyone gets the same questions which are scored the same... that's what "standardized" means.
@grantjohnson5785
@grantjohnson5785 3 жыл бұрын
The worst off are the ones who struggle and *don't* fail. They struggle, get expensive special services, and take 2-3 extra years (and extra loans) to graduate with a probably useless degree, then still underperform at the tasks they were ostensibly "prepared" for.
@aomorgancool1775
@aomorgancool1775 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantjohnson5785 very few people get useless degrees. Some people take longer to graduate because of the extra responsibilities they have for college.
@jasonfullerton7763
@jasonfullerton7763 3 жыл бұрын
I was quite unmotivated in my high school studies. Got grades in the 70s or low 80s, except math and science where I got the occasional high 80s/low 90s mixed in. No extracurricular activities at all, except the after school jobs that don't show up on transcripts. I also scored >98th percentile in my Math SAT and >85th percentile in Verbal. Without those test scores, I do not get accepted into the program where I earned my BS Engineering degree and the career that it enabled. And nobody in my alma mater's Admissions Department knew my race, because that information was not relevant to their decision.
@hvalour1
@hvalour1 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to help someone, tell them the truth, if you want to help yourself, tell them what they want to hear.
@theshootindutchman
@theshootindutchman 3 жыл бұрын
Don't fool yourself, people are realizing that college degrees are worth less and less. Numbers and college attendance are going down and they want to keep them as high as they can. The pay scale for professors and the huge money machine that college sports has become, they need money to turn and burn. This is why they are slowly but surely stopping the use of tests to gain entrance into college. By the way, I have a master's degree.
@prouddegenerates9056
@prouddegenerates9056 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna be a nurse, don't want extravagant building or prestige, why should I pay for them? Training and education, who the fuck cares about any of this other shit.
@evelyncasto9627
@evelyncasto9627 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it's because of that piece of paper, it's because the person is a hard worker and most likely would have made that much more even without the degree.
@mugglescakesniffer3943
@mugglescakesniffer3943 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is a difference between a good university and a diploma mill.
@JimmyJinIA
@JimmyJinIA 3 жыл бұрын
My longtime concern if this 'free college' bs continues is it will actually happen. What happens then? You'll see wages fall. No business will pay top level wages if they don't have to. Prospective employees who don't have loans to repay CAN work for less and why would you hire or continue to employ someone when you can get the same skillset for less.
@honolulublues5548
@honolulublues5548 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a Masters and I have been in roles where I am a hiring manager. The degree is used by many businesses in a few ways. One, it shows a commitment to your career. It doesn't really matter the school, just as long as its in a related field you are applying for a job. The second, it means you can be taught. The organization can show you how they do business and you will be willing to learn that method. If a position states "bachelors degree required" on a job description, the organization will most likely digitally trash any resume that doesn't state a degree on it and hence they never make it to HR or the hiring manager's desk.
@spencerreynolds7692
@spencerreynolds7692 3 жыл бұрын
So let's make things easier for those who haven't spent the time to study and work hard. Teach your children to not work hard to get ahead. Great world we are living in.
@mojopare8954
@mojopare8954 3 жыл бұрын
With 51% of the US population getting some sort of government handout (they call it assistance) Sadly we've already reached the turning point towards Socialism.,
@tugginalong
@tugginalong 3 жыл бұрын
Fairtest is also out to make money, oh, and universities are too This “diversity” argument sounds like discrimination.
@letsgoBrandon204
@letsgoBrandon204 3 жыл бұрын
They are literally discriminating against people based on the colour of their skin. There's a word for that isn't there?
@annedrieck7316
@annedrieck7316 3 жыл бұрын
Mirror mirror on the wall, who the fartest of them all
@Arakasi22
@Arakasi22 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the sign about kids going to their school of choice which would eliminate diversity because then kids would segregate themselves. You'd be back to square one with Blacks in one school, Whites in another and Asians in another, etc...with a very minor amount of diversity.
@stephenerickson1544
@stephenerickson1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@letsgoBrandon204 Something with an r I think... red... rap...report... ray... Ray Ban!
@iskiinthefastlane
@iskiinthefastlane 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@David-ei5lq
@David-ei5lq 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest regret in life is seeing to it that our three daughters went to college. They went from logic and intelligence to feelings and myths. The problem with colleges is that they now focus on emotions created by false narratives.
@cici79
@cici79 3 жыл бұрын
David, they may get back to sanity. Introduce to works by Thomas Sowell, Carol Swain, Walter E. Williams, Andy Ngo & the Walkaway Campaign by Brandon Straka, as a starter. God Bless!!!
@ferrucciolamborghini1909
@ferrucciolamborghini1909 3 жыл бұрын
Eastern Europe is best place in the world to live right now
@grantjohnson5785
@grantjohnson5785 3 жыл бұрын
You should have looked closer at those colleges' curricula, David. I know, this was probably a while ago before the leftist domination of colleges became widely known.
@testtest8798
@testtest8798 3 жыл бұрын
People come out of our education system with fraudulent educations. The longer they spend time in university, I have noticed that the worse their ability to comprehend written or spoken words is. I have spent some time as an employer, and the people with less college education have almost always performed better then those with more. It's a joke. They do not teach any meaningful critical thinking skills, and dont just ended up with years of their life wasted, it's far worse. They have years of their life conditioning them into complete idiots.
@David-ei5lq
@David-ei5lq 3 жыл бұрын
@@cici79 That is the kind of material we provided at home.
@richardmohner8076
@richardmohner8076 3 жыл бұрын
I think one thing forgotten about standardized test is that it also affects what kind of financial assistance you can get for college/universities. The better the score, the better chance you can get grants instead of loans, or at least back in the 90's.
@M0rshu64
@M0rshu64 3 жыл бұрын
"They lower the passing grades, the school looks good, everybody is happy, the IQ of the country slips another 2-3 points, and soon all you need to get into college is a ****ing pencil." - George Carlin, Life is Worth Losing, 2005.
@KienThucDoDay
@KienThucDoDay 3 жыл бұрын
he is a genius
@themandalorian2498
@themandalorian2498 3 жыл бұрын
"You Got A Pencil? Get the **** in there, it's Physics."
@testtest8798
@testtest8798 3 жыл бұрын
People come out of our education system with fraudulent educations. The longer they spend time in university, I have noticed that the worse their ability to comprehend written or spoken words is. I have spent some time as an employer, and the people with less college education have almost always performed better then those with more. It's a joke. They do not teach any meaningful critical thinking skills, and dont just ended up with years of their life wasted, it's far worse. They have years of their life conditioning them into complete idiots.
@themandalorian2498
@themandalorian2498 3 жыл бұрын
@Scott Robinson i wouldn't doubt it, but now we have racist people who are just disagreeing with other's nowadays. You don't like Carlin? Become someone Smarter and Better.
@M0rshu64
@M0rshu64 3 жыл бұрын
@Scott Robinson He was Atheist all right. But he wasn't racist, and he sure as hell wasn't a Democrat.
@stockykhan9568
@stockykhan9568 3 жыл бұрын
@4:00 "And if you eliminate the tests, you're just going to delay where it shows up elsewhere in this child's life."
@duckboy6052
@duckboy6052 3 жыл бұрын
I’m good at testing but really bad at homework, the thing about schools today is that it doesn’t require intelligence to get a good grade, only viglience
@jc-ke3ll
@jc-ke3ll 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I'm in college now and you'd have to be not trying at all to fail out.
@mbr5742
@mbr5742 3 жыл бұрын
That has always been true. Schools have to cram a lot of basic knowledge in and only than can they start teaching scientific measure and how to learn. So good memory alone always was a worth at least a C
@mrmacross
@mrmacross Жыл бұрын
@@jc-ke3ll That's true, but in competitive classes you have to study hard to get good grades. If you're OK with Bs and Cs, you can get your participation award diploma, but if you want to standout among your peers you have to put in the work. You're not going to get As in 300-level Economics and Chemistry courses just by showing up.
@probablynotanagent5594
@probablynotanagent5594 3 жыл бұрын
Im in college right now and as a conservative I've had to actively conceal my conservative values out of concern for social condemnation or reduced grades for not adhering to woke ideology. It's a scary time to be a conservative student.
@nathalieb734
@nathalieb734 3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong, stay conservative! You are not alone.
@toeey14
@toeey14 3 жыл бұрын
I couldnt imagine going to college these days as a conservative. I thought it was bad when I went to a liberal school back in the 90's. Its 100 times worse there now
@martymcfly5423
@martymcfly5423 3 жыл бұрын
probably best to not go to College at all. They dont teach anything useful anyway.
@probablynotanagent5594
@probablynotanagent5594 3 жыл бұрын
@@toeey14 I've been openly feminist screamed at. You know the ones... where it's just incoherent screaming. Just walked past a protest and they saw I had a military patch on my backpack and they screamed I was a murderer. Which immediately made me retaliate "oftly bold of you to attack someone you believe to be capable of killing people I don't like." And she found a new victim once she realized I wasn't a victim lol
@toeey14
@toeey14 3 жыл бұрын
@@probablynotanagent5594 Unfortunately,I have to work on college campuses sometimes. Even colleges that still arent allowing in person schooling for most of the students. Yet the few people on campus are all masked up outside while walking alone. SAAAAAAAAFFFFFFFEEEEEE!
@Auburndad50
@Auburndad50 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not about hard work anymore, it’s about entitlement.
@williamofy6376
@williamofy6376 3 жыл бұрын
ACT and SAT books are free to check out at the library...that is how I did it...my family was on welfare most of my life. The only way out of my situation was getting an education...Poverty is a great motivator LoL. Getting into college is not graduating college....there are plenty of colleges you can get into....but most students are not mentally, emotionally, or sadly academically prepared....." set up to fail" and basically reinforcing that they can not get ahead....
@sam-by6sq
@sam-by6sq 3 жыл бұрын
"School is boring!" "No it's not!" wouldn't see that kind of a reaction in a government run school...
@UnschoolingCOM
@UnschoolingCOM 3 жыл бұрын
That was staged!
@jaycweingardt11
@jaycweingardt11 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnschoolingCOM Prove it. Also, is he wrong?
@josephstalin7389
@josephstalin7389 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaycweingardt11 well it a 3 second sector so it prolly twisting the narrative
@benfranklin2136
@benfranklin2136 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephstalin7389 I wouldn't say probably but definitely could be staged!
@nation5743
@nation5743 3 жыл бұрын
I came from a government run school and it isn't boring. And we are supposed to be a third world country.
@jameswildes2207
@jameswildes2207 3 жыл бұрын
When l was in high school l barely graduated, due to an abusive household. Would have to stay up most nights to protect my mother and sisters. Scored high enough on the SAT to get a scholarship.
@snsmystic
@snsmystic 3 жыл бұрын
exactly my point. These woke people are just using "good intention" knowingly aware that it actually helps the rich elites. Look at the 1:27, the man with the "fair test" knows he's wrong. His body language is plain guilt.
@CRFSUIGENERIS
@CRFSUIGENERIS 3 жыл бұрын
Proud of you!
@Dawn737
@Dawn737 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I went to a terrible high school. The whimsical grading was appalling. One teacher actually did flunk every student in each of her classes, merely because that teacher had failed to explain the assignment. However, the rougher kids could threaten teachers and get their D turned into an A, but this left those teachers peeved, so they tried to regain their sense of authority by finding some reason to downgrade shy, nerdy kids. I kid you not. I got an A on a creative project and, when I admitted to the teacher I had initially intended to do more, he changed my grade to a D because I had not done what I described, though he had originally given me an A. Yes, it was Stupidity High, and my parents were also entirely unhelpful (they didn't want to have to pay for college). Many high schoolers also face the stress of "group projects" for which they earn "group grades", so kids who aren't college bound can cost the kids who are. No standardized test is that arbitrary. I also scored high enough on the SAT to earn college scholarships, despite my odd report card (filled almost entirely with A's and D's, though fortunately mostly A's).
@allthethingsyouwillsee1081
@allthethingsyouwillsee1081 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on achieving your goal of college even with adversities
@babydriver8134
@babydriver8134 3 жыл бұрын
lol I dropped OUT of their stupid system.
@Phenom0100
@Phenom0100 3 жыл бұрын
I never took my SAT or ACT. I just transferred from a community college with my AA Transfer degree to Florida State University. I am now graduating with a BA in computer Science and im thinking about a masters in Computer Network and System administration. I've done all of this and my family is poor. There are other alternatives than to just take those tests. Community college transfer is also a good option. Edit: In 2023 of May I recieved my Masters Degree in Computer Science with a focus in Computer Network and System Administration.
@gerardcote8391
@gerardcote8391 3 жыл бұрын
Elite engineering schools won't touch community college credits.
@MrDrediz
@MrDrediz 3 жыл бұрын
That's true. It's an affordable route that's less orthodox, but gets you to the same end point for far less money.
@TheThinker434
@TheThinker434 Жыл бұрын
I do not support the SAT being a requirement. It takes away time and creativity from the students.
@corby6956
@corby6956 3 жыл бұрын
I hear this line a lot these days: "just follow the money"
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@laciLaszloM
@laciLaszloM 3 жыл бұрын
I've decided today that lm going to identify as an engineer with a pay cheque of just over $150,000......this kind of statement use to be humorous about 2yrs ago, but now its the scary truth
@aaa7189
@aaa7189 3 жыл бұрын
I have been having a discussion with a kid from Australia on here about minimum wage. He asked: so kids out of college should only get minimum wage working at McDonalds ? I replied; Why should anyone get more money if you don't know what you are doing yet.....Go to school to learn it or work your way up to earn it. - He didn't want to hear it
@VirginiaRican
@VirginiaRican 3 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with this. I never took the SAT because I was homeschooled and started taking college classes while I was still in high school. I declared high school graduation in my junior year and went to community college full time while working two jobs. I saved 20 thousand dollars over going to university, got my first two years of credits done at a 3.9 GPA, then transferred to Virginia Tech to finish my engineering degree. It took me a total of six years to get my undergrad done, but I had a great time, minimized debt, and got job experience. SAT was never even on the radar because graduating high school and transferring straight to university was too expensive to be an option for me. More should consider this education path, they wouldn't need the SAT.
@dll7658
@dll7658 3 жыл бұрын
Lols Imagine getting a doctor who got his license based on the color of his skin, not what he knows or how good his skillsets are. Or pilots. Or engineers. Omg
@ivegottatightanus8589
@ivegottatightanus8589 3 жыл бұрын
It’s already happening. Try being a white male and applying for anything competitive lol
@aomorgancool1775
@aomorgancool1775 3 жыл бұрын
@Coldheart Zero no it doesn't reagradless on who goes in to college professors do not change the curriculum to graduate engineers or doctors. Anyone has an equal shot at getting into competitive universities. Some people just want to make excuses for their failure to get accepted.
@imchris5000
@imchris5000 3 жыл бұрын
now imagine getting laid off that engineering job to be replaced by some guy across the world with a made up degree
@RanbirSingh-st2to
@RanbirSingh-st2to 3 жыл бұрын
Look at Stanford Medical school.
@ian0903
@ian0903 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah let’s get rid of the professional sports drafts too. It’s unfair that only the people who are good at it get to play and make lots of money.
@RobertF-
@RobertF- 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned more from self learning, reading books, the internet, and youtube, than I ever did in college or school.
@UnschoolingCOM
@UnschoolingCOM 3 жыл бұрын
Unschooling
@casper-z9rkls6gl
@casper-z9rkls6gl 3 жыл бұрын
We'll just have to wait till the baby boom and gen X vested interests are retired or dead for things to change.
@allyourpie4323
@allyourpie4323 3 жыл бұрын
I am a teacher,which I say here to show I'm not just being cantankerous with this comment. There are always people who engineer their class schedules so that they take only classes like Drama 1,Art 1,Everything 1,so that they create a 4.0 or higher GPA when students taking Calculus or French 4 get B's because they are pursuing difficult knowledge and skills. There are also lots of students who share answers or just plain buy answers or take answers off the internet these days. It is significantly harder to fake an SAT.
@SwagRiderPlays
@SwagRiderPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Graduated high school and went on to get an associates at community college. After CC I went on to transfer to a university. I truly feel like the money I spend for university isn’t worth it. The education system in America is broken. I manage to avoid getting myself into politics in school but so many professors always bring it up. I’ve got one year left and sometimes I want to quit because I’m not getting my money’s worth. It sucks when you know deep within yourself that college is money racket but you’ve got to finish just for that piece of paper to be competitive in corporate America.
@KienThucDoDay
@KienThucDoDay 3 жыл бұрын
tháts a sad situation
@SwagRiderPlays
@SwagRiderPlays 3 жыл бұрын
@@KienThucDoDay Big sad
@TYUAN2009
@TYUAN2009 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear! Totally agreed that the college is a total scam- especially if someone need to take out a loan for it. Higher education is about to disrupt also fueled by the pandemic. You need skills to have a career in life, not some teaching by old dinosaurs or some paper credential. Someone once said, What is one thing you overpaid, with no guaranteed, and can't be refunded. And if you took out debt, it can't be forgiven... College.
@SlightlyOverripeAvocado
@SlightlyOverripeAvocado 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@kylechen9573
@kylechen9573 3 жыл бұрын
well that's the thing, as fake as the paper is, ur still gonna be better off on average with that paper. I think u should only quit school when ur sure there's something better u can do without a degree. Yea school may suck and be expensive, but maybe quitting will make you even worse off.
@RFJersey
@RFJersey 3 жыл бұрын
With the excessive amount of grade inflation in most high schools, the SAT’s are the only way for a good student to stand out.
@bluehotdog2610
@bluehotdog2610 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what grade inflation you are talking about given that everyone I know struggle with classes in high school.
@djm5687
@djm5687 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehotdog2610 It is far easier to get an "A" in high school now, than 10, 20, 30, 40+ years ago.
@bluehotdog2610
@bluehotdog2610 3 жыл бұрын
@@djm5687 Yet, young adults today are just as capable as adults several decades ago
@djm5687
@djm5687 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehotdog2610 Young adults decades ago didn't need "migroagression trigger warnings" to get through life. Also, you had to *read books,* not just Google everything in order to do an assignment on a *typewriter* where you couldn't correct mistakes as easily. Math didn't used to allow formula sheets & graphing calculators. Professors *confirm* that grade inflation exists. A "C" grade used to be considered average, now a "C" is considered mediocre because an "A" is easier to get.
@bluehotdog2610
@bluehotdog2610 3 жыл бұрын
@@djm5687 Then how come everyone I knew in high school had to pour hours and hours in their work, yet still can't get good grades?
@CHESTNUT246
@CHESTNUT246 3 жыл бұрын
the most annoying thing about college is the useless classes you have to take in order to complete GE proportion of a college degree. As a accounting major why do i have to take biology, physics and art classes. I should be solely focusing on classes that would improve my understanding of my profession, hell i never had a class where we focused on the accounting software and how to use it. The only GE classes i could see being mandatory are writing, critical thinking and speech.
@sterling557
@sterling557 7 ай бұрын
Getting a well rounded college education is good, but GE classes should be only a half semester mini class or something. Wasting 2 years on GE before you even start your major classes is ridiculous.
@adamcosta4610
@adamcosta4610 3 жыл бұрын
"Pretty soon all you'll need to get into a college is a fuckin' pencil!" -George Carlin
@SisterShirley
@SisterShirley 3 жыл бұрын
George Carlin, his words are timeless
@999Patriots
@999Patriots 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. To make a pencil you have to kill trees. The production of one pencil will kill thousands of little birds. Graphite in pencils not carbon friendly. Better to use crayons in all of these woke colleges.
@mjef3695
@mjef3695 3 жыл бұрын
It hit it on the nail. I miss George.
@jongrant1215
@jongrant1215 3 жыл бұрын
Or an IPad
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@David-he6uj
@David-he6uj 3 жыл бұрын
Colleges make huge amounts of cash by over-stuffing the freshmen class. They want most freshmen to drop out, so they don't have to spend any money expanding the college to handle bigger sophomore and up classes. It's not a secret. They've been doing it forever and everyone knows they've been doing it forever.
@Anthony-lr4bk
@Anthony-lr4bk 3 жыл бұрын
Harvard's endowment is over 40 billion. American colleges have become a joke. People are too hyper-fixated on prestige.
@mojopare8954
@mojopare8954 3 жыл бұрын
A sad reality - also applies to their noncredit prerequisites
@mjt1813
@mjt1813 3 жыл бұрын
Just get rid of schools altogether and give them a diploma and a degree. That’s next
@mentoral1252
@mentoral1252 3 жыл бұрын
yep basically that's where they are heading with the participation medals😁
@cyclone5354
@cyclone5354 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say a big truth pill. It’s not to help low performing kids. It’s to make more kids apply. However, the acceptance amount is the same. This makes the acceptance rate lower, and makes the school look better as a result
@tyrannosaurusimperator
@tyrannosaurusimperator 3 жыл бұрын
Or, alternatively, they want the increase merit based scholarships to students who don't deserve them so they can get them enrolled, give them a discount for a semester or two, and then reap in full tuition costs from students who might have chosen a different school. My university did something similar. They allowed people to change classes to pass/no pass in Spring 2020 to make up for covid-19 disruptions and then when grades slipped even more in the fall, got rid of that policy. They also added an online course fee for each online class and then stopped offering in-person classes.
@marklennox2151
@marklennox2151 3 жыл бұрын
With the quality of the student diminished the school looks worse.
@David-he6uj
@David-he6uj 3 жыл бұрын
That's only the 1st step. The 2nd step is to get as many freshmen to drop out as possible so they'll have gotten tuition money without having to actually educate them and give them a degree. Looks to me like they're trying to swindle the students that wouldn't have tested well. And this time they're targeting minorities and calling it wokeness. What a joke.
@lui1367
@lui1367 3 жыл бұрын
yeah its gonna increase tuition, more entry level jobs are seeing rise of students in college and will now make it a requirement even they are gonna be paying only minimum wage. thus now will cut out a large portion of Americans that didnt choose the college life and they wont be able to find jobs or high schoolers looking for some extra cash will be cut out cause businesses are gonna be requiring college experience
@leeannachipana1018
@leeannachipana1018 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Johns reporting style. I like how he always ready to investigate whatever other people are just accepting as fact. We need more of this. People who simply say hey there is more to the story here, take a look.
@normanhill1052
@normanhill1052 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently feelings are more important than education.
@shanes6382
@shanes6382 3 жыл бұрын
I was average in high school (C+) because of the subject matter and the social stigma of being smart. My SAT's were above average and got me into university, in which I graduated. School incorporates many factors and externalities that affect education
@desiderium3243
@desiderium3243 3 жыл бұрын
How funny I just got fed up with the system and literally said “I wounded what Stossel has to say about this”
@johnglue1744
@johnglue1744 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha good ole autocorrect made your sentence have an odd meaning but I get what you meant.
@BoogerDeluxe22
@BoogerDeluxe22 3 жыл бұрын
wounded is a great song by third eye blind
@funnyfisher7
@funnyfisher7 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnglue1744 lol wow, when I read it at first, my brain must have just autocorrected to what I assume he meant, replacing "wounded" with "wondered" so I didn't even notice, that's pretty neat that our brains can do that! :D
@dave3657
@dave3657 3 жыл бұрын
When we interviewed people for engineering jobs where I worked we had no interest in what school they attended. Finding people who can learn after school is the key
@azerty1933
@azerty1933 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not from the US so the racial thing is just shocking to me How is that even possible there is no class action lawsuit for racial discrimination against college who do this It's textbook definition on treating people differently based on race
@donquijote6030
@donquijote6030 3 жыл бұрын
There have been multiple lawsuits over the last twenty years. They mostly involve Asians who are denied entry into putatively prestigious universities, i.e., Harvard, Yale, Princeton, U.C. Berkeley, Stanford, and Michigan. All of these schools have been sued for discrimination. The problem is that even in defeat these schools only become more discriminatory and hide their prejudices under the filthy rug of leftist tropes - inclusion, diversity, privilege, and whiteness are all examples.
@EvilMonkey7818
@EvilMonkey7818 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough students come forward. A lawsuit was tried by a few Asians against Harvard and failed. The judges didn't say Harvard doesn't discriminate racially against Asians (or whites), rather that there wasn't enough evidence Harvard racially discriminated against those specific few plaintiffs in the lawsuit. A proper lawsuit will need a lot more plaintiffs as part of it to establish the pattern the courts and public know is true. The catch though is racially rejected Asian and white applicants simply enroll elsewhere and get on with their lives, so it's tough to get them to be part of a suit. And the social climate in the US is such that if you complain as an Asian or white person in the US, you're shamed and ridiculed, possibly doxed.
@ryanscottnix
@ryanscottnix 3 жыл бұрын
@@donquijote6030 Well said. That was a beautiful paragraph.
@donquijote6030
@donquijote6030 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanscottnix - Thank you, sir.
@0311andnice
@0311andnice 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you show both sides of the argument and not fragment to fit your frame.
@mostestgreatest
@mostestgreatest 3 жыл бұрын
They wont flunk out of MIT, they'll cater a learning program just for them to succeed!
@FloGrown863
@FloGrown863 3 жыл бұрын
Education starts at home. The color of ones skin does not matter. It's the attitude of the students that's in question.
@josephstalin7389
@josephstalin7389 3 жыл бұрын
It's not all rainbow and sunshine
@grantjohnson5785
@grantjohnson5785 3 жыл бұрын
Attitude of the students and involvement (and ability) of the parents.
@testtest8798
@testtest8798 3 жыл бұрын
People come out of our education system with fraudulent educations. The longer they spend time in university, I have noticed that the worse their ability to comprehend written or spoken words is. I have spent some time as an employer, and the people with less college education have almost always performed better then those with more. It's a joke. They do not teach any meaningful critical thinking skills, and dont just ended up with years of their life wasted, it's far worse. They have years of their life conditioning them into complete idiots.
@martymcfly5423
@martymcfly5423 3 жыл бұрын
@@testtest8798 exactely. College makes these Idiots dumber and dumber. Everyone who is smart skips College. Skipping College is a sign of high Intelligence 👍
@Jack-dh2ws
@Jack-dh2ws 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing how the first man said the tests are ineffective enraged me. I went to a mediocre school in the rural south. Had I not done extremely well on my ACT I would probably have not gotten into colleges. I have a full ride to a large state school, and I’m about to graduate as an aerospace engineer. Truly infuriating
@Awesome_Force
@Awesome_Force 3 жыл бұрын
I like WGU. It is purely performance/test/achievement based. No feelings or minority privilege involved. And you need a minimum of 80% to pass each test/class. Your homework means nothing, it is all about how much you learned and how well you performed on the final test. In person colleges let people pass that don't know the material but completed a bunch of assignments (busy work). That is why so many teacher candidates that I know (at least here in the Central valley in California) fail the CBEST, CSET and RICA tests multiple times. I passed on my first attempt. All 4s and two 3s and that was with taking ALL subjects at the same time (Multiple Subjects Teaching). The people I know that went to Fresno State, Fresno Pacific, and a couple other colleges all failed multiple times. (Most failed once on the CBEST and twice on the CSET). And yes, that included one of my Asian friends that failed the math CSET multiple times. He eventually passed on the third attempt, but has since been fired twice from teaching positions because of poor academic performance of his students. Letting people in that aren't prepared isn't beneficial. Test scores are very telling for how well someone is likely to perform.
@-Ordinary-Average-Guy
@-Ordinary-Average-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
I sure wish I didn't have to study and take the government exam for my Journeyman ticket as as an Electrician. Think of all the time time I could have saved by not going to trade school.
@BrighamMike
@BrighamMike 3 жыл бұрын
What's a false equivalence?
@BrighamMike
@BrighamMike 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if instead of letting anyone start working as an apprentice they have a test to see if you'll maybe be allowed to try... totally not the same as becoming licensed to do a job chief.
@xmalcom650
@xmalcom650 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrighamMike now imagine letting people into colleges who can't do the work, they then drop out with student debt.
@f9w99
@f9w99 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about statistics is that you can interpret them to fit one narrative or the other. Same raw data but different analysis reveals your truth. He convinced himself he’s right through science but fails to realize the common sense aspect or qualitative results.
@valdivia1234567
@valdivia1234567 3 жыл бұрын
@@xmalcom650 But what if we make college free?? In the land of woketardia everything is free, free, freeeeeee!
@Ja2808R
@Ja2808R 3 жыл бұрын
More people in = more cash in. Don’t care if they’re prepared to pass or fail.
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 3 жыл бұрын
Pile up those student loans. It's a no money back guarantee.
@RobMcGrath0
@RobMcGrath0 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeJones-rk1un or just no money.....whose going to pay back all those loans?
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobMcGrath0 The students will get nothing back for their college costs and student loans are big business these days.
@QuadCloudNine
@QuadCloudNine 3 жыл бұрын
colleges could make it easier to graduate
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuadCloudNine I hope you are kidding.
@victoriancu7358
@victoriancu7358 3 жыл бұрын
"Pretty soon all you need to get into school is a pencil. Get the **** in there, its physics." -George Carlin I cannot believe how he predicted the future.
@ArtistGV
@ArtistGV 3 жыл бұрын
The down votes must have been from teacher union members. This video was very truthful and informative. Anyone (like myself) who earned a B in a class when they should have gotten an A because the teacher didn't like your personality knows that standardized testing takes that out of play.
@mnkeymasta
@mnkeymasta 3 жыл бұрын
"If we lower the standards, more people will get in :)" That absolute gall of these people
@geezitshuge
@geezitshuge 3 жыл бұрын
Like Dan Akroyd said to Bill Murray in GhostBusters..." You've never worked in the private sector, it's tough out there.....they expect results".
@RanchoCarrasco
@RanchoCarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why I had shitty grades in highschool was because I had to work to feed myself. Straight A students were home studying and all. Now I have a 6 figure salary while most of my straight A friends are still paying student loans and have crappy jobs.
@MrNgMichael
@MrNgMichael 3 жыл бұрын
I think the ability to keep learning and to put in effort is way better than grades. I have some friends that dropped out and still working at minimum wage jobs in their late 20s. I got rejected to rejected to most of the schools to the University of CA system, and I think that was a good eye opener that even if you get in, doesn't mean that you'll get good grades and not drop out. I think commitment and effort will carry you the furthest whether or not you go to school.
@babydriver8134
@babydriver8134 3 жыл бұрын
I never made it to 6 figures, but I retired at 57. To each his own.
@Gherit1
@Gherit1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my dad needed my minimum wage job to help pay the bills from my alcoholic step-mother. I got into college with a partial scholarship because of my test scores. I dropped out though since I basically landed the job I wanted while still in school. Best decision I made. I worked all through college to pay for the remainder. I had no debt after 3 semesters. I left with a 3.8 GPA. I'm pulling 6 figures now and my wife, who had a similar dysfunctional family life, makes about double what I do. She did graduate and got her MBA while I worked to pay the bills. She worked for the college, and I covered the rest. We only had to pay for 1 semester of her MBA.
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered if I Trail Blaze my own path to $$$ I WIN!! If i try to follow others advice I cant make as much money. I found that being in CONTROL of my own destiny has taken me down a very successful path!! :) I'm Happier :)
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 3 жыл бұрын
@@babydriver8134 :)
@kevinheaton1653
@kevinheaton1653 3 жыл бұрын
Much Love From Australia
@cale1618
@cale1618 3 жыл бұрын
hello from WA 🇦🇺 good to see Aussies excited about liberty
@matthewfarrell317
@matthewfarrell317 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Melbourne
@mrtata5092
@mrtata5092 3 жыл бұрын
My son was struggling in high school but he excelled in college now his a software engineer working for a telecom company.
@davidapp3730
@davidapp3730 3 жыл бұрын
When too many kids fail to graduate college they will call for final exams to be ditched and just have the fact that you attended for a few years as enough to graduate. Here is your Dr. certificate Good Luck out there.
@wendyj.3858
@wendyj.3858 3 жыл бұрын
That's scary to think about.
@dll7658
@dll7658 3 жыл бұрын
I think you mean good luck to your patients out there.
@Celciusssify
@Celciusssify 3 жыл бұрын
heck they kind of already do this... so many professors grade on their own "bell curves" where even if an entire class fails horribly, they'll still pass with As and Bs
@WoodytheSingIng
@WoodytheSingIng 3 жыл бұрын
I think a point is missed here. Once they get these poor performing students into these schools where they then fail to perform the result won't be that they "flunk out" or even "struggle". No these schools will then decide that their own curriculum is just not woke enough and fair, so they will dumb down the requirements for their degrees until these poor performing students are able to graduate and then the real problems begin when one of these students with an engineering degree makes a fatal mistake that causes a bridge or building collapse or one of them becomes a doctor and due to their poor abilities end up harming or killing multiple patients. That is the inevitable result of this continued dumbing down of standards. You aren't trying to help individual work to achieve if you never let them fail or you ensure the standards are so low they can do anything and go anywhere. Each person has specific skills and abilities with which they will accel and it doesn't always means going to a specific college or even attending college at all.
@bruceleibee6268
@bruceleibee6268 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning the numbers of ways people find to "help" other people which turn out to be complete failures. Success comes from hard work, perseverance, knowledge, and striving to be the best; setting artificial goals helps no one.
@martinavaslovik3433
@martinavaslovik3433 3 жыл бұрын
It's been true throughout history that any group that excels above the rest will be envied, resented, and hated by the other groups who will then seek to bring them down rather than emulate what made them successful.
@meghanconlon2037
@meghanconlon2037 3 жыл бұрын
If you have to step on someone's head and drown them to save yourself were you actually better?? No. Stop lowering the standards and find out what is holding the other students back and help fix the gap. Its sad what is happening
@martinavaslovik3433
@martinavaslovik3433 3 жыл бұрын
@@meghanconlon2037 My point exactly. Thank you.
@martinavaslovik3433
@martinavaslovik3433 3 жыл бұрын
@clam digger Yes they are. Spot on.
@LynxSouth
@LynxSouth 3 жыл бұрын
@clam digger The argument against that is, many of the jobs that earn big salaries are not important, and many of the jobs that are important (nurses, firefighters) are not paid according to their worth. I agree that simply taxing the rich is not the answer, but many people who aren't rich are far from stupid or lazy. They're usually the ones trying to pay their way, though, not asking for handouts and special treatment.
@AbcAbc-sp1od
@AbcAbc-sp1od 3 жыл бұрын
@@LynxSouth nurses make a helluva lot of money. I don't know what you're smoking, but can I get some?
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 3 жыл бұрын
I took the SAT, and I can honestly say I learned more watching 3 five minute John Stossel videos. Thanks sir! WITH GREAT MUSTACHE COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY!
@db-lz9uy
@db-lz9uy 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up John, you're a man of integrity.
@dr.claw.9444
@dr.claw.9444 3 жыл бұрын
The results of this are already showing in society. Keep up the great work dumbing down the human race!
@evanm2024
@evanm2024 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I hire based entirely based on a portfolio if it's for a non-technical role, and your GitHub page for a technical role. I don't even look at an applicant's education anymore.
@Joisu121
@Joisu121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for reporting on the truth! You have always been my public speaking role model! (I was a speech/ debater in high school and watched your videos before competitions.) This is so true. I did not have much growing up, and standardized tests allowed me to stand out from other kids. I never received paid tutoring, but I went to some free SAT workshops at public libraries. I worked really hard as a student. I am a physician now. If it weren't for standardized tests, I wouldn't be where I am today. It's so inappropriate for people to discredit the hard work of individuals by saying they got in just because of their race or money. We are harming kids of all races when we get rid of standards for all.
@brozbro
@brozbro 3 жыл бұрын
No different from lowering mortgage requirements for 'disadvantaged' and then foreclosing later for payment failure.
@freedomforever6718
@freedomforever6718 3 жыл бұрын
Wokeness has become the new narcissism. "Look at me, I'm woke, too!"
@christinea1161
@christinea1161 3 жыл бұрын
It should be "Unwoke"!
@jaik195701
@jaik195701 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@closedeyes2989
@closedeyes2989 3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@freedomforever6718
@freedomforever6718 3 жыл бұрын
@@Senwos , That's the best you've got? Haven't you heard? Dull is boring and boring is dull.
@MyRoosterWisdom
@MyRoosterWisdom 3 жыл бұрын
Being"woke" is a mental disorder
@5thhorseman559
@5thhorseman559 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep shining the light!
@humb1s3rvant
@humb1s3rvant 3 жыл бұрын
I left college after 1.5yrs, now i work construction overseas and can make 6 figures working for a bunch of degree holders who cant tell their ass from a hole in the ground. No one on this earth could pay me to go to university!
@jollibee9241
@jollibee9241 3 жыл бұрын
I had terrible SAT scores especially in verbal part and the GRE. My GPA was good though. I settled for a university that was okay and fine with it. I learned after being in the workforce I do not use 90 percent of what I learned in college. Getting that degree helped me get the job.
@FrecklePecker
@FrecklePecker 3 жыл бұрын
When Thomas Sowell was teaching at Columbia he noticed that half of the black students were on academic probation. So he went to the department of admissions and found that the average black student was in the 75th percentile of SAT scores, while the average white student was in the 99th percentile.
@hobsdigree2
@hobsdigree2 3 жыл бұрын
I always get a big smile on my face when I see the excitement of kids who have worked their butts off finally get accepted into that college or graduate with that degree or land that job. It's such a sweet moment that is the culmination of night after night of discipline and hard work that often goes unnoticed. That student spent years studying, sometimes late, while their friends were out having fun, they chose to keep their nose in those books and persevere though it all. It's a moment that I remember being one of the greatest moments of my life when those things happened to me. At the same time, I remember the feeling of failure too. Studying my butt off only to come up short. I had to make adjustments, and own up to any bad decisions I made. But it's a horrible feeling thinking you can't do it, and I think there are a lot of kids who get caught up in a bad class or teacher who wind up failing and think they can never succeed. There is a way, you can do it, your work will pay off and it will be life changing.
@wvanyar1801
@wvanyar1801 3 жыл бұрын
Some students take longer to learn how to study. I did and so did one of my kids. Not everyone is ready to jump directly to college and need to grow up some, and to own up to the consequences of their choices. Once they realize they are in control of how they move forward in life, they are ready to start to make changes to their life.
@hobsdigree2
@hobsdigree2 3 жыл бұрын
@@wvanyar1801 exactly. Good for you and your kid, that's great to hear. I think a lot of kids jump into college before they've really had time to think about it and determine if it's the right choice for them. If they want to dabble in it, community colleges are a lot more affordable and can give them a feel for what college life is like. I think looking into career outcomes accross majors, earning potentials, average salaries and how much they fields will grow is one of the first things a potential student should do. Also, trade schools are very under rated. The world will almost always need electricians, plumbers, and welders, and all of those career paths have great pay, great benefits, and job security.
@robertwalsh5461
@robertwalsh5461 3 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of monstrously stupid “thinking” that could bring about the scenario found in the film IDIOCRACY. It was funny enough as a comedy but was truly written as a cautionary tale. Best, R. C. Christian
@jasonfullerton7763
@jasonfullerton7763 3 жыл бұрын
Idiocracy was a warning, not a comedy.
@robertwalsh5461
@robertwalsh5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfullerton7763 Your tone reads like you are trying to correct me... I just stated that! Are you being thick or just taking the piss?
@jasonfullerton7763
@jasonfullerton7763 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalsh5461 Thick, I am agreeing. Have a good day!
@chasa4347
@chasa4347 3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to work for a multinational company. I've been able to work with talented guys and gals from around the world. The PC people in this country that want to push "equal outcome" need to look outside our borders. Developing countries are very competitive, and promote their best and brightest. They come to us talented, with a great work ethic. We in the US keep this up, we'll be the ones wanting to emigrate to other countries to do their manual labor.
@HamRadio200
@HamRadio200 3 жыл бұрын
I'm encouraging my young children to not let schooling get in the way of their education. I'm teaching them that hard work pays off. I'm teaching them that they are in not in control of the outcomes, but they're 100% in control of the effort put forth. I'm telling them that when things don't work out, to not blame others, but look in the mirror and ask themselves what could they have done differently to effect the outcomes.
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 3 жыл бұрын
Keep at it, it sure pays off for them, you'll be proud.
@MergedElement
@MergedElement 3 жыл бұрын
The irony that they’re more focus on race versus focusing on student’s success.
@testtest8798
@testtest8798 3 жыл бұрын
People come out of our education system with fraudulent educations. The longer they spend time in university, I have noticed that the worse their ability to comprehend written or spoken words is. I have spent some time as an employer, and the people with less college education have almost always performed better then those with more. It's a joke. They do not teach any meaningful critical thinking skills, and dont just ended up with years of their life wasted, it's far worse. They have years of their life conditioning them into complete idiots.
@MergedElement
@MergedElement 3 жыл бұрын
@@testtest8798 agreed, critical thinking course should be a taught back in school.
@DoubleXmagnum
@DoubleXmagnum 3 жыл бұрын
The straight F's I made back in the day are starting to look better.
@forgottensailor2006
@forgottensailor2006 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can just enroll in a Trade-school and save yourself the headache of this mess...so much more can done with your hands than behind a screen.
@yodaflyz
@yodaflyz 3 жыл бұрын
According to Dave Ramsey, the average college graduate today has over 3 times the debt of the previous generation even after you adjust for inflation. This is why I believe the truditional brick & morter college as we have known it is outdated. Trade schools, low cost online education, & other new methods of higher education need to replace what is now an outdated education model.
@Wordsalad69420
@Wordsalad69420 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants to pursue a trade.
@KingNicotine
@KingNicotine 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wordsalad69420 ...no...not everyone does. However...for too long youth have been told they "need to go to college" in order to get a good high paying job. This, unfortunately, has proven to be a bane more than a boon as more and more debt is being accumulated by runaway price jumps at Universities and oversaturation in a number of fields. Not everyone wants to pursue a trade...but, as the old saying goes, the world needs ditch diggers too.
@teabearchurchill5600
@teabearchurchill5600 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingNicotine As for most things, it depends on circumstances and what you want to do. All three of my brother's kids went into the medical field... one a Physical therapist , one a pharmacist, one an RN. The PT and Pharma both have their Doctorate. The PT runs 2 clinics for her company and after 5 years has bought her own house. The Pharma is making over $100K a year, is on track to have his loans paid off by 2030. The RN will be doing 5 years for the practical experience then go back to get her Dr. to become a Nurse Practitioner. Most if that you cant do if you go to Trade School.
@Wordsalad69420
@Wordsalad69420 3 жыл бұрын
@May Day Really? All companies I worked for wouldn't even consider someone without a degree. And for good reason. Self taught engineers tend not to have the same level of understanding.
@trublgrl
@trublgrl 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Riley makes such an important point. When I was in college, I wanted to take a certain level 200 music course, but I had not taken the prerequisite. I was working in the field of music already, so the professor gave me a dispensation out of kindness. By the second class, I knew I was in over my head and humiliated myself not knowing a simple answer to a simple question. Letting me in without proper preparation was not a kindness in the end. I blame only myself, but I learned that lesson the hard way. Education is not a prize, it is a task.
@FEARSWTOR
@FEARSWTOR 3 жыл бұрын
Now the question that will bake your noodle: Was it truly a dispensation out of kindness, or did the professor do it so you'd come to the realization that you needed to go through the prerequisites on your own and would therefore have a will and desire to do so instead of being told you had to and be resentful?
@trublgrl
@trublgrl 3 жыл бұрын
@@FEARSWTOR Pretty sneaky, sis.
@mojopare8954
@mojopare8954 3 жыл бұрын
The concept of competency based placement is excellent but must be based on documented performance, not feelings.
@roorlek
@roorlek 3 жыл бұрын
I did well on the sat and bad in classes. The teachers are way more biased than standardized tests...
@ameeg9509
@ameeg9509 3 жыл бұрын
My high school transcript had quite a low GPA due to my dyslexia and my small schools ability to serve me better in the classroom, but my SAT score was 1300, allowing me to accepted into a university, where my dyslexia wasn't as much an issue and I thrived. I needed that SAT score, otherwise I would have struggled getting into college.
@archaicnymph2977
@archaicnymph2977 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get passed the reading part of the test?
@CrazyManwich
@CrazyManwich 3 жыл бұрын
The old adage your team is only as strong as the weakest link is amazingly true. Sadly it seems like so many are trying to take people down to the weakest link because they are worried about their feelings rather trying to build the weakest up.
@JerryDLTN
@JerryDLTN 3 жыл бұрын
I took the ACT twice before college and then took the GRE & GMAT for grad school. I've talked to schools that tried to "sell the school" on not having to take the entrance exams and I didn't see that as a good thing.
@newguy3588
@newguy3588 3 жыл бұрын
No need to test children, we're just judging them on skin color now.
@kurtfeierabend1206
@kurtfeierabend1206 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't like to practice, and I'm kinda outta shape, but I should be allowed to play on the Varsity Football Team because I'm [an under represented protected class of citizen]... and they don't have enough of us on the football team."
@chieflouie2821
@chieflouie2821 3 жыл бұрын
Foreigner students have low SAT and ACT but the schools need their money.
@bvierville1
@bvierville1 3 жыл бұрын
They are being set up to fail, but don’t forget about the debt they have incurred. The system only works out for the lenders!
@ryanw.5684
@ryanw.5684 3 жыл бұрын
Paying to be more stupid than one already is!!!! Yeah, that’s getting your monies worth...
@testtest8798
@testtest8798 3 жыл бұрын
People come out of our education system with fraudulent educations. The longer they spend time in university, I have noticed that the worse their ability to comprehend written or spoken words is. I have spent some time as an employer, and the people with less college education have almost always performed better then those with more. It's a joke. They do not teach any meaningful critical thinking skills, and dont just ended up with years of their life wasted, it's far worse. They have years of their life conditioning them into complete idiots.
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 3 жыл бұрын
Their lender is the government now.
@surviveplusbushcraft5650
@surviveplusbushcraft5650 3 жыл бұрын
In junior high school I had a math teacher who told us the first day in his basic math class, "I can't teach you anything you don't want to learn or keep you from learning anything I don't want to teach you". Most of our time in that class was spent on algebra and geometry even though it was supposed to be the smallest section of the class because he inspired us to want to learn more by putting the responsibility on us.
@MrJoshcc600
@MrJoshcc600 3 жыл бұрын
That's a nice quote but when is the last time you used geometry? I work every day people don't know how to find out what square foot of thier floors
@surviveplusbushcraft5650
@surviveplusbushcraft5650 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJoshcc600 I use it figuring things once in awhile but just the basics... what you learn can be lost through lack of practice.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that giving parents school choices is better! I’ve argued this for the last 20 years. My parents stuck me in public school, and it didn’t work for me. I didn’t fit into the environment at all, even after finding a program within public schools to change schools. Public schools have a mold and if the kid doesn’t fit that mold, they’re put to the side. I would’ve done better had I been homeschooled or if I would’ve had charter schools when I was a kid. Private was out of the question, they said, but even with scholarships, maybe that would’ve been the answer. I just couldn’t stand having to go to class. I was frequently bullied by teachers, not students. I was called stupid, an idiot, they called me names, they mocked my work in front of the other students. I would tell my parents, and then my mom would show up and raised hell, which only made them hate me more and pick more on me. I often asked to change schools. My requests fell on deaf ears. I grew up having many insecurities and I came to hate school. I learned from my experience. My kids are going to be homeschooled, and if charter is an option in our area, I will definitely explore that option for them.
@Average-J-O-E-
@Average-J-O-E- 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found you again your narration is as good as I've ever heard you have a voice for narrating and the news thank you so much... now just don't get canceled, as if conservatives have any control over that
@eyestothesky6331
@eyestothesky6331 3 жыл бұрын
True that! I was an average student in high school but made Dean’s list several times in college because I didn’t want to waste my education dollars failing courses. And I enjoyed my classes... I was working toward a good future.
@blumountian
@blumountian 3 жыл бұрын
My issues with colleges is that why am I in a mandatory philosophy class for my engineering major and why are there more writing classes than math ones?
@markbrophy4846
@markbrophy4846 3 жыл бұрын
"Minority groups get lower scores" , Asians at the top of every classroom.
@GermanTopGameTV
@GermanTopGameTV 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if culture is more dominant in your development than you genes are. The cultural background of Asians usually values hard work and intelectual achivement. Some other cultures value credit card debt and expensive shoes to flex instead.
@stefanschultz601
@stefanschultz601 3 жыл бұрын
Asians are white now, according to colleges.
@zarach9459
@zarach9459 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanschultz601 Sadly it is true.
@joeyGalileoHotto
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