WOKE Utopia

[@JohnSmith-vg6hb]

It actually gives me so much hope when someone like Jonathan pie talks about these issues

[@ringo4419]

I'd like to agree with you but I fear the truth is we're fucked

[@valeforedark]

Off topic. I think he would have fit in with the Monty python lot .

[@RK-zf1jm]

why it wont change anything the woke cancel culture is not going away

[@dolltron6965]

Hope....Until things get so bad even he gets arrested for his skits here.

[@andymogg1445]

@@ringo4419 I'm with you on this one.It's gone too far and there's no turning back.

[@rogermorris9696]

When a fake reporter does a better job than real reporters.

[@mkbfpv]

He needs to be prime time news, we need news that does real research and which doesn’t have its own agenda. News for the people and that’s honest is what’s needed. It’s all negative according to the media, which is why I won’t watch the “Mainstream” media.

[@jamied8013]

Every time!

[@MrSpruce]

Using lies to tell the truth.

[@OverMotoren]

Not really, he's ranting.

[@pancakemogul]

@@mkbfpv He's enjoyable to watch but nobody should take their "news" from one person.

[@RB-fp8hn]

Jonathan Pie. The only one who can say "twat" and "woe betide" in the same breath, while strengthening the core argument.

[@simonlawrencesings]

I haven't heard the phrase "woe betide" with such force before. 🤣

[@MSGROSE1]

'Identity politics brings people together by separating them into smaller and smaller groups.' Sums it up pretty well.

[@samuelspoons3553]

Used to get that on the 1980s Scooter Scene, no wonder it died off in the start of the 90s sadly.

[@TheHansoost]

Yeah, and then those groups will begin picking each other off one by one.

[@davidfusani2113]

Eugenics is on the way

[@richardc6269]

Well said!!

[@TC-zd1ly]

Black trans lives matter. I didn't think it was possible to break trans people down into an even smaller group ahaha.

[@Kernowking101]

"Identity politics which brings people together by segregating them in to smaller and smaller groups based on their gender, their sexuality and their skin colour".

[@mrtalos]

Try and have a conversation about gender with someone and how sex and gender are different, which for the record they are. However, the people who generally talk about this keep interchanging what they mean, like they suggest what everyone else does. You cannot have a discussion when they can't keep their own story straight.

[@ozrick_major]

I’m sorry but sex and gender are not different. They mean the same thing.

[@kmdontlookatme]

​@@ozrick_major very uninformed statement.. you should at least try and read about the topic first

[@BFCrusader]

@@ozrick_major One can be a verb, the other only the difference between men and women.

[@authuruksake969]

@@ozrick_major - nope, not any more. Not that long ago many would have perceived them to be the same thing, but recently gender is what a person identifies as than what their actual DNA says. (Even though despite what you add/remove, you can not change the DNA). A more in depth BS description can be found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction A great example of virtue signalling celebs like Taylor Swift complaining about gender can be found here: www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/06/27/taylor-swift-only-male-and-female-gender-options-on-census-form-a-brutal-erasure-of-people/ Taylor - bless her little heart, was unable to read & decipher plain English on the census form as it did not ask about gender but about person 1's SEX - not gender. Ahhh but they mean the same, nope as @mrtalos mentioned, they redefine/alter/change the differences and definitions of gender, proclaiming they are not the same thing... SEX = biological sex embedded within your own DNA GENDER = what a person identifies as, though that person can not accept their own biological sex within their DNA, which to some people might seem to be a symptom of having a psychological issue/disorder

[@gtxviper]

It's reached a point now where political satire has become "telling it how it is" because reality is just that comical.

[@legin3753]

scary shit

[@Cross_111]

You sir are exactly right...

[@patternseekingape8873]

No, we past that point in 2002 in the run up to the Iraq war, it basically broke Rory Bremnar.

[@ecmorgan69]

Poe's Law: "Look at me. I am your political discourse now."

[@Pique147]

Comical, but I'm not laughing.

[@cnewell76]

When this guy gets it right, he REALLY nails it.

[@Va11idus]

Lmfao ok, bud.

[@EUidentity]

IMO it's not about being right but understanding everybody's perspective is valid. It might be deluded to you but it's their truth. If we approach each other non judgementally and with compassion, we are far more likely to bring about healing in them & the situation than constant finger wagging.

[@lubossoltes321]

that's a matter of opinion ... oh wait ...

[@fionngeaney9692]

When Pie-Gob-Face and the words on the page click like this, its getting up there with Black Mirror for visceral social commentary

[@grayzytube]

Not everybody's perspective is valid. Only those grounded on some sort of objective reality, not myth, majority opinion, feelings or any other internal or subjectively generated external souce. Race is a culturally constructed concept based on no scientific evidence that isn't preceded by the term 'pseudo'. Cultures aren't static entities they are dynamic and evolve over time and they certainly aren't connected in any way with ones skin colour. There is no such thing as Black or Black African culture - go ask the Tusti and Houtu. Their conflict is described as 'class' warfare and it is. Between the haves and have nots. in terms of wealth and power. Maybe in a predominantly white country a poor white will have 'white priveledge' over a non-white, but whilst the poor on both side are fighting over the crumbs and squabbling over petty difference it keeps attention off of those with the cake, wealth and power and that's how they like it. check out www.forbes.com/billionaires/ and you'll see that 134/200 are 'white' who only make up 11% of the world population. They are the Tutsi we should ALL be looking at.

[@ashleighchance9420]

"You're entitled to your opinion, as long as it's not your own." Excellent video as always Pie. We need you on prime time. The left will eventually turn on themselves entirely when there's none left to demonise for having a different worldview.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

Projection. Far righters literally work together to then work against each other

[@13JazzyG]

This guy is my hero, if everyone had this amount of common sense the world would be a better place

[@Leo-tc7sv]

Word

[@k.saunders7666]

You mean, like a utopia? Unfortunately, my friend, "common sense" is a myth we offer to comfort ourselves; which, unfortunately, divide people by establishing an Us vs. Them mentality.

[@tylerschofield]

If everyone had this much common sense we really would be living in a utopia!

[@Ahytys]

@@k.saunders7666 having common sense doesn't equate to having the same ideals/values.

[@pTheReaper]

Most people have common sense. They just kept their heads down and wanted to get on with their lives without getting involved. Now they have woken up in a society where they can no longer voice their common sense for fear of losing their jobs.

[@thisisfyne]

He really hits the nail on the head regarding mob mentality (either online or in real life). Not only is it in essence bullying, but it's a perpetual circle of shaming anyone diverging from the agreed upon "correct" opinion. I don't see how we can live in a society that doesn't tolerate differences of opinions and the civil discourse that it normally implies. That's not healthy. And before anyone starts doing violence to their keyboard to reply; no, that doesn't mean advocating for racism, sexism, etc. But at some point, we must recognize that we're all different, don't have the same life experiences, and don't draw the line on some issues at the same place. If we factor everyone, we get a balanced middle ground. But if instead we pathologically shame and censor, that becomes targeted oppression. Trying to reach uniformity of thought (real or perceived) is absolutely dangerous.

[@freelancebythebay]

Straight-on. We lost the dialogue to the bottom line.

[@2gooddrifters]

I gave up Facebook a year ago as I felt I was being pressured to conform, become mediocre and join the herd.

[@kennybevan11]

Lol forgive me but I just read that in Pie's voice it was that good

[@harrytd]

Having inhabited left wing circles in my early days, I can tell you there is no "agreed upon" opinion. By definition in "progressivism" anything agreed is merely temporary until you make "progress" by finding another grievance/resentment which, inevitably in some way, conflicts with your previously "agreed upon". e.g. LBGTQ+ vs. Islam (This constantly shifting ground is what usually drives intelligent left wingers away from the left to sanity and more solid ground i.e. conservatism.) There is in fact, bitter competition among left wingers to be, and very much more importantly, be seen to be more "right on" than the left winger next door. It makes the bourgeois activity of "keeping up with the Jones's" look positively tame and compassionate by comparison. It also drives the ever more absurd left wing claims - a sort of left wing version of the Four Yorkshire Men.

[@Hydralyph]

It's part of why I don't really discuss my opinions on the internet anymore. I just read the dumb shit and move on, instead of trying to put forward a view which doesn't reflect their agenda.

[@threewheelsonmywagon3598]

Brilliant...the rant that's been going on in my head...only with the words in the right order.

[@terrypankhurst7601]

Exactly what I just said to my wife pal

[@patriciascott6992]

Burnham book The Suicide of the West describes it as liberal ideology syndrome. Or in layman language people who only agree with people who agree with each other.

[@StsFiveOneLima]

You can say that with an anonymous social media name. I can too. I agree with you 100%. We fucked, though.

[@barrysteven5964]

This is me. I've been a leftie since I was a teenager and still am but I just feel lost now in a sea of pretentious bullshit and have become less and less involved with politics. It's a mixture of the bullying, intimidation Jonathan describes plus pissing competitions with everyone trying to prove how ideologically pure they are ("Look at me! I'm the best socialist because I care more about Palestinians than Ukrainians!") plus just stupidity. How did we get to a point where we are imitating the far right by denying science and labelling facts as opinions and calling unprovable convictions facts? And how hard have we worked to convince the white lads on the Durham estates I grew up on that we hate them because they're male and white. My theory is that it started with the downfall of the unions when left wing politics moved from the factories to the universities.

[@CFRTrainSpotter]

i think it just happened when left-wing politics became watered down with neoliberalism from the 1990s onwards. who knows... i feel very much like you too.

[@neinne6693]

Well in essence, yes. The problem/upside for most with Capitalism is that the average Worker has a nice life (wich is most of People) and trys to protect the System wich gives him a good Life, so Socialism needed a other Attackpoint. Also that isnt me who said or discovered it, but a Socialist Prof. forgot the Name, if its important to you i say look it up.

[@dean1039]

“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.” ― St. Antony the Great

[@raybell32]

They trying to normalise paedophilia via the rainbow

[@fredatlas4396]

It's already happened with the brexiteers attacking those that didn't want to leave the EU or don't support the con party

[@hanamlchl]

@@fredatlas4396 Other way around, mate. The Brexiteers were the ones attacked and called racist. It's very hard to get people to vote for your idea when you attack them - as Labor found out when it lost 70-100+ year strongholds. Funny, that.

[@applejack4225]

@@fredatlas4396 I don't remember any remoaners being called xenophobic racists

[@antkcuck]

You called?

[@JB-tc8el]

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so terrifyingly close to the truth. Genius work and ironically better than any 'real' tv journalism i've seen in years.

[@mayoneas8224]

It would not be hilarious if it wasn't terrifyingly close to the truth

[@Nidhog17]

What do you mean close? It is the damn truth!

[@dreamscuba]

Spot on.

[@paulcollyer801]

Whether I agree or disagree with what he says, he nails it every time

[@BeyondtheIights]

So true, watched channels get hit hard for years over and over. For clearing showing evidence or stating facts, for speaking on behalf of everyones benefit. Sad, it's just a clowns world now.

[@Volthoom]

"Assumption of bigotry at every available opportunity" is a great description of the first world nowadays.

[@grease_monkey6078]

yep and as Johnathan Pie has said previously "assumption is the mother of all F ups

[@danielclark-hughes692]

First world? That's bigoted language REEEEEEE!!

[@pansepot1490]

No. Just of social media. Accept the rules or stay out of it.

[@paulies5407]

Irony is the definition of a bigot is someone who won't accept the expression of different opinions.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

@@pansepot1490 But that will play into it as well..."you didn't support 'X' on facebook?" "I don't have have face-book". "OMG I din't know you were an anti-science fascist!, I can't be friends with you...now where did I put that incinerator."

[@lachlanbell8390]

_"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”_ --- Winston Smith, 1984

[@mrmagneto554]

So much closer than people realise, with books being removed from libraries and science being censored for the wrong results.

[@StsFiveOneLima]

@@mrmagneto554 We continue to allow it.

[@serjthereturn]

The scenario Orwell is describing is an abject denial and revision of history, whereas what is currently happening is an overdue acknowledgment of it. The presence of the word ‘statue’ in this quote and also in current headlines does not actually mean you have made a point.

[@equisader]

@@mrmagneto554 always buy hard copy. I stopped buying kindle a long time ago.

[@mrmagneto554]

@@serjthereturn you couldn't be further from the truth. What is happening now is both a destruction of history, whilst repeating some of the worst parts of human history. Who was it who said that those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it?

[@blockg9482]

The way he gets vexed then nonchalantly says "in to the incinerator you go" makes me laugh so hard

[@everyman1]

🤣

[@charlielynes]

But you know, at this very moment, someone will be screaming for JP to be #cancelled for mentioning "incinerator" in the context of RLB and the shared article. Of course, JP is spot on... A mear mention of anything outside of "acceptable norms", regardless of context, results in cancellation of a person, their families and anyone who ever conversed with them. "you are free to do as we tell you..."

[@Kiah1995]

Lol my favourite part of his whole rant.

[@kimberlygallella104]

"No no, just leave your belongings there" XD

[@LANDYMAN090]

But don’t you find it a little anti-Semitic? Isn’t that what the Germans did to the Jews? And yes I know they didn’t burn them alive...or did they?

[@YaxKukMo1426]

In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

[@thomasdavies5415]

The further people move from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it.

[@murrayjames3140]

www.google.com/amp/s/quoteinvestigator.com/2013/02/24/truth-revolutionary/amp/ Orwell never said that.

[@murrayjames3140]

Still a good line though :)

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Thought Pie had lost his mojo for a bit but here he’s back and hits it absolutely spot on. Identity and victimhood politics is consuming our culture before our very eyes, an insatiable bacteria of wokeness.

[@MrBillUp]

He's been full lefty for a while now, but he realises it isn't getting him anywhere. Lefties have no sense of humour, so his gags were missing the mark. He pulled it back somewhat here.

[@Puketapu]

extremism is the insatiable bacteria.

[@Codex7777]

@@MrBillUp - I'd say that the majority on the left have been fed up with pc for quite some time. Unfortunately the minority control left-wing politics. Incidently, the right are just as bad at trying to censor, de-platform, shut the debate down and condemning people for holding a different viewpoint. There just isn't a convenient 'pc-like' label with which to collectivise such actions. Though the indiscriminate use of 'fascist' seems to have gained ground. Unfortunately, whilst we're all arguing about what is, essentially, the peripheral issue of pc and identity politics, all the really important issues are being ignored. Economically, for instance, we've moved so far to the right, in recent decades, following the totally bogus and debunked ideology of neoliberalism, that most people haven't even noticed that the rich and their political chums, have been taking a larger and larger share of the economic pie, at everyone elses expense. Nor that it doesn't 'trickle down'. Wealth and income gaps have grown to their largest since Victorian times. The 'centre' has shifted so far to the right that anyone suggesting ANYTHING outside of absolute neoliberal dogma, is instantly labelled a 'radical', a 'loony', a 'commie' or a 'marxist', no matter how mild the policy or reform. As for 'anti-semite' it's now applied to anyone giving even the mildest criticism of Israeli policy. Even when stating pure facts.

[@nathanhobson1142]

@Prithu well said. Edit, apart from the woke being right wing bit. And nazism is the disowned daughter of communism. Mussilini was a communist and tweaked the outward expansionist ideology by refocusing it inwards - ie nationalism. And Hitler liked that flavour of communism... A lot.

[@Jackaljkljkl]

​@@Codex7777 The Israel / "anti-Semitic" thing is very true, but also applies to criticism the power/belief structures within Islam and "Islamophobia". When people were protesting Brunei for their plan to stone homosexuals to death, some were accusing the protesters of being "Islamophobic" for trying to protect gay MUSLIMS from being murdered for their inherent, biological sexuality.

[@thats.p.radical2086]

Jonathan Pie, I know you probably won't read this, but I've been watching your videos since I was a teenager, I remember my sociology teacher mentioning you. I haven't seen you recently, but to hear you standing up to the Left right now means so much to me. As someone who is leftwing, I've been feeling like I've been going crazy, but it's just because I can't identify with the mainstream 'woke' culture - it's completely anti science. I remember reading about the rise of anti-intellectualism years ago, and I dismissed it, thinking it wouldn't affect me. Boy was I wrong. Thank you for keeping me sane.

[@chrisbates7743]

Albeit being satire, this is some of the best political commentary I have ever heard...the world has gone mad.

[@georgecaplin9075]

Chris Bates satire often is the best political commentary. I know what I wrote there isn’t an original or complex thought, but I think it needs to be emphasised, especially nowadays.

[@superseven220]

The problem is all current political commentators are either woke liberal lefties or afraid of speaking the truth for fear of losing their jobs!

[@robinjones6999]

it has gone mad

[@jackwmith8445]

Finally, genuine outrage about the slimy slide into the tyranny of ideological correctness. It's amazing that only a few comedians can voice have a voice. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke

[@Seeker_01]

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-for ever.” ― George Orwell, 1984 This quote encapsulates our present society succinctly.

[@simonmcnamee619]

How so?

[@vespadavidson2315]

Simon McNamee Grow up Simon. Extrapolate.

[@peterwang5660]

@@vespadavidson2315 What I've extrapolated is pseudo-intellectual bullshit quoting. Happy "wise" elder?

[@nathanhobson1142]

@@simonmcnamee619 obtuse lol

[@digiscream]

C'mon, everyone - it's pretty obvious. The further you get from the centre, the more authoritarian you need to be to maintain the position. So...when the right or the left have gone far enough, they look exactly the same from the perspective of the general population because the rightness/leftness is no longer the operative aspect - it's the authoritarianism. You either get Atlas Shrugged or 1984, but the population are just as screwed either way.

[@mzytryck]

I love how he's actually calmer than normal here. Maybe he's just so disappointed with the Left at this point that he can't even even build up enough steam to do a full rant.

[@NLTops]

I love how Pie rips into both sides of the political spectrum and is accurate in his criticisms either way.

[@te1327]

I haven't seen him rip into anything meaningful on the left though. He mostly talks about cancel culture with 90% of the left disagrees with and which is done by a vocal minority of people. If he has actually critiqued any policies or ideas then ok but being a 'liberal' himself could literally mean he's anywhere on the political spectrum.

[@kylecross246]

@@te1327 on cancel culture ever the woke left disagrees with it seeing it as ineffective it seems like no one wants it. It doesn't change peoples minds it only makes them conform at best

[@ryanlocke1117]

@@te1327 correct

[@morecambekb]

It's called being a moderate.

[@te1327]

@Albert Wesker becasue they are a very loud minority and corporations tend to cave in pretty easily when people start complaining about an employee's misconduct, even if it is a few. After all the company can just replace the employee, and they care more about brand image then what that one guy they fired who said the n word when he was 16 will do after they fire him.

[@WeirdWackyWonderfool]

I'll be the first to admit, I was one of these people, but I left social media a few months ago due to addiction, and I realized I'd been conforming to group identity and pressures, and pushing society in the wrong direction. It's a hard thing to admit that I so passionately campaigned for years, in what might have been a big psychosocial boomerang.

[@Catu11u5]

Heaven rejoiceth more for one sinner who repenteth etc.

[@sratus]

So very, very brave. What a hero.

[@brittanydawn2633]

Well said! And well done.

[@joaquinandreu8530]

At least you were smart and brave enough to think for yourself and act accordingly. Well done.

[@fitprotunes]

Good man

[@ShaneJoshua1980]

There's the point right there, I'm black and it's crazy to view things of the past through today's filter. Yes it is abhorant what some of these figures did but a lot of people did stuff that wasn't necessarily great back then. If people go by that mantra best stay off of social media because in 30/40 years time they'll be a lot of stuff that others will find offensive about you. That fact we can't discuss anything nowadays and Identity politics and all this nonsense is causing more harm than good.

[@Mistersamweller]

And not just judging people with today's standard, also summing up someone's entire life by the flaws they had. So sure, some of the things these figures thought or did were bad, but that isn't all they did, is it? Is there something that they did that helped as well? Such 1 denominational thinking.

[@nevilleneville6518]

30 - 40 years? At the current rate, 30-40 weeks is enough to see your previously mainstream opinions declared Wrongthink.

[@bluemachine85]

This was the part of Pie's argument I struggled with. Our local 'philanthropist' here in Bristol knew what he was doing to people, and likely did so through a genuine belief that these people were inferior, maybe less than human. Supposedly the Nazis also had this mindset and so were able to carry out the Holocaust. The idea is people aren't evil, but do evil things based on their beliefs. That said I still can't personally see past Colston's crimes. And from that amassed huge wealth with which to give to various causes around the city

[@TheGalwayFarmer]

@@bluemachine85 Trouble is where does it end? For example Samuel Pepys invested heavily in the East Africa Company. How should we view things like that?

[@ozrick_major]

People just need to stop being so damn sensitive. Judging history by todays socialist censored values. Discuss differences in opinions instead of shutting them down. How the fuck is someone supposed to change their opinion or even think about changing it if people don’t provide argument and reason as to why they think the opinion is wrong. Challenge opinions, debate, discuss. If at the end of that both parties are in agreement, great. If not, agree to disagree and move the fuck on and get on with your life. Stop being so damn sensitive.

[@Siriathion]

I need the "Into the incinerator" gesture to be .gif'ed so I can use it myself. It's both hilarious and so very fucking scary how right he is within the context of his character.

[@EarlHare]

The world is upside down, we used to laugh at comedians and listen to politicians. Now we laugh at politicians and listen to comedians.

[@chrisneoh3188]

very good

[@lizzysprigg6127]

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[@elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen]

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[@JonA-ih5he]

reminds me of a quote by Bret Weinstein that I came across recently: the population is made up of four types of people: A small number hunt witches. A large number go along with the hunt. A larger number are silent. A tiny number oppose it. The final group--as if by magic--become witches

[@DonCurrywurst]

If you play that game long enough, the silent group will become witches as well, because they cant take it anymore.

[@nathanaelraynard2641]

@@DonCurrywurst i mean rather than being the witches, it's that they are forced not to be quiet

[@DonCurrywurst]

@@nathanaelraynard2641 I meant figuratively speaking. Ofc they are not witches, but the crazy ones try to paint them that way.

[@johnkachale8633]

Gold!

[@wokemyarse4133]

That is sooooo true

[@christianblack2916]

I've seen Pie evolve from a cliche'd synthetic Guardianista ranter into an authentic, outraged truth-ranter. Fascinating. They'll be coming for him very soon. I wish him well.

[@Osmiculture]

...and I have to say, that's equally chilling (even if it was you drawing out the humour), and I really do hope not. However I do think he would tie knots in any attempts to trap him.

[@charliecare3682]

I was just thinking myself today that when I was a rabid leftist that he had similar views to me. Glad he's a lot more centrist and less biased

[@indyref2now342]

It's a front: Jonathan Pie is funded by far right Koch foundation (climate change deniers) to spread the message that it's actually the left that are intolerant.

[@Xylos101]

@@indyref2now342 I was a socialist, like most conservatives. The left are the intolerant ones, ask any comedian where they will not go, the answer is inevitably universities. Bastions of free thinking my ass. I came out more indoctrinated and arrogant then beforehand. The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@ohcrikey9560]

Pie isnt authentic. Hes a fictional character.

[@Jim90117]

He is right, we are going backwards. We aren’t saying we are all in this together, we are all the same, all human... No, We are separating people, assuming so much about entire groups, dividing people on race and gender and setting everyone against each other. The worst thing is the world is okay with this, it’s like they’ve accepted a mentality of segregation and inherent guilt, a mentality of zero responsibility or self determination. We are creating a society of weak weirdos who can’t function properly because they might cry if someone says something they don’t like. It’s almost like a religious cult.

[@thephoenixscotland]

My best friend of 30 years completely disagrees with my opinions and I with his, but we have still been the best of friends 30 years. However, his teenage kid hates me because I disagree with their family opinions and hates how we discuss it, yet still disagree. And I mean real hate, not dislike. That is what society is creating now, hatred of opposing thought. "This is what I think and if you disagree I hate you and want you gone"

[@StsFiveOneLima]

We are entering a dark age.

[@LidiaMonroe]

“WE” are not doing that - the LEFT is doing that. And until the left is willing to see the rot in their own party and to speak out against it, the witch hunters will one day come for all of you too.

[@robertashmore1942]

It IS a full on cult.

[@wiseonwords]

Dragonaut - your comment is transphobic! You're cancelled, you horrible cis-gendered person.

[@roddas26]

"an assumption of bigotry at every available opportunity". Sad but true.

[@kelvincasing5265]

Proceeds to call out "right wing bigots"....

[@phantomofyoutube]

Well, the article was 1 antisemitic and 2 even the author apologised. The least Rebecca could do was apologise. That easy.

[@phantomofyoutube]

This highlights the contrast between labour leadership and whatever it is the Torys have... Given that Kier asked her to apologise/take it down, I hate to say it, I disagree with Jonathan.

[@fatfat1877]

@@kelvincasing5265 hes was talking about right wing bigots, not trying to generalise the right as bigots

[@atadoff62]

@@kelvincasing5265 Is there a right wing in Britain? I see no evidence of it.

[@nicksavage1914]

"into the incinerator". Imagine if a group of people had done this in the past so we could learn from it and not make the same mistakes.

[@pixiniarts]

Anyone that has the vaguest concept of history is watching whats going on with distinctly sweaty palms.

[@kitstorm7637]

@@pixiniarts yknow ive got dual citizenship with new zealand... its tempting

[@nicksavage1914]

I'm backing on Elon getting us to Mars in time!

[@barnsleymat]

Jacinda is woke as f**k, stay away.

[@JAG8691]

@@kitstorm7637 With their current Leader?

[@superninja252]

Cancel culture truly makes me afraid of future...

[@ben31uk]

superninja252 I agree I hate to think what it will be like in 10 or 20 years time

[@e-hr5314]

Future? It is right here, right now...

[@thatoneguychad420]

We've been warning the normies for fuckin years.

[@anyvideostuff1019]

I agree. Vocal minority or not, they hold the sword of power and change at the moment. Their political opinions are already making their way into law. In 10 years I really dont think we will have free speech at all - well, we already lost that a while ago but in 10 years I fear we will look back at today's world as "not that bad".

[@the_bottomfragger]

Clean up any social media accounts retraceable to you. Any non-essential statements, any even slightly controversial message etc. Never know when you will get shit for it, never know if you will ever be in the spotlight.

[@raptorsan85]

and yet we're all standing by and allowing it to happen

[@Osmiculture]

My ears are still ringing, I have brain goosebumps and I think some darkness has been driven out. For me this is Mr Pie's most illuminating and awesome display of fire-works/power so far.

[@manakakisaragi9121]

Once again we need a British comedian to point out, what "serious people" should've been addressing for a long time now, before it got to his point. Now that we have harmless people like Jenna Marbles preemtively self immolating, thanks to this wonderful world we've created.

[@Anasteroiddestroyer]

It bothers me that people like Jenna, who actually show growth, end up on the chopping block. 2020 is the worst.

[@maxworth4687]

He's a comedian, that's why he doesn't name any one specifically and creates a strawman or straw army of fictional leftists that exist in his head to argue against. No specific examples, just a load of convenient generalisations. Equating criticism of Isreal with antisemitism is the true antisemitic nonsense here.

[@chrisoliver119]

@@maxworth4687 Congratulations for completely missing the point. Do better in future.

[@mavericmorph5358]

@@maxworth4687 Pie is a lefty.

[@morganbruce9087]

@@mavericmorph5358 He's also a character. The guys name isn't Jonathon Pie

[@dominik-b9h]

I just wanted to point out that "Perma Offended Woke Twats" is a great name for a band and the first album should be called "Assumption of Bigotry at Every Available Opportunity"

[@mathewhale3581]

I’ve already written the first track “Trigger Warning”

[@samuelspoons3553]

Love it

[@NLTops]

Please let it be a punk rock band.

[@dominik-b9h]

@@NLTops it should be a band playing PROGRESSIVE rock :D

[@didinx8417]

I look foward to them playing the John Peel Stage at Glastonbury 2021.

[@TheDoggyOnTheWall]

This whole thing has become a joke. Tech firms are spending tens of millions changing terms like master, slave and blacklist when this money can be given to charity or something more productive than just more virtue signalling.

[@danheaps]

While I agree, a lot of corporations do a lot of virtue signalling, which can be sickening, it's just capitalism and has nothing to do with left wing politics. A company like apple don't want to appear racist, sexist or anything bad ,not for any moral reasons, they don't have any, just because they won't to sell there stuff to everyone, so money well spent from a profit point of view, and charity isn't (unless there's publicity involved.

[@johnnyw525]

1. They’re not spending tens of millions. 2. They’re doing it get more business. The money wouldn’t just be sitting around if it wasn’t used on that, it would be put towards getting more business in another way. 3. Big companies already donate to charities.

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

Well, as English is not my native language, the terms "master" and "slave" sound at the very least strange when you try to translate them literally... But what's wrong with "blacklist" ? Does this word have origin in slavery ? I thought that colour black is used here as a metaphor for something bad, just like red is a universal symbol for danger.

[@draconianTL]

I have only used 'master' and 'workers' with clustering and i've been doing that for over 20 years. 'Slave' isn't really accurate here, so I don't care about it being widely dropped. I also never used blacklist but always used 'DROPPED' or 'REJECTED', again, as it was more accurate.

[@sentinal2343]

continue with level of ignorant denial, you future is looking like our past!!

[@kurosan0079]

They say they fight for acceptance, but can't accept the fact that it's impossible for people to have the exact same opinion.

[@thatgnaralooguy]

"Inclusivity for all, but not you because I don't agree with one minor detail of your opinion"

[@SpasmodicAttack21]

@Jerome Bustillo And yet so many people seem to be in agreement on this page! Good times! Yet, I must respectfully disagree with your opinion. You are wrong. Hope you're okay with that.

[@sentinal2343]

Then it,s time for those of differing opinions to return to whence they came, which includes you!!

[@aliservan7188]

This man is crimially underrated. Some of the best satire and social commentary in the last 20 years.

[@Normy2323]

Pie warned about this in his video Trump: How and Why. That was nearly four years ago, it’s only gotten worse

[@Jannie2044]

It gets crazier. Around late 2013, when Dan Harmon got fired from Community (which curiously is under a microscope now too for the episode Advanced Dungeons and Dragons) and started his Harmontown podcast, he repeatedly referred to this at the time emerging trend of stifling discourse to root out any dissenting views. The great irony of it is of course that this kind of thing is staple of right wing, conservative censorship. Profane, blasphemous and vulgar used to be the right’s thought control mechanism and complement to the modern non-PC, offensive and InsertDemographicHere-phobic.

[@jumainhandayani2907]

Ah yes, probably his best video ever, almost 4 years ago...and society doesn't change much. Or maybe it changed to a worse state?

[@xanderathome]

Yes I originally thought this was that video.

[@MovesLikeJaGa]

Yeah four years on, Tom Walker's got richer

[@jlu]

I was immediately reminded of it when he said the right have taken over free speech. It's crazy that not only is it still relevant, but its actually gotten worse.

[@michaelbond4330]

Finally the frustration is crystallised. Thank you. Brilliant.

[@nikunashi3494]

Pie, you just perfectly articulated what most sane people on the right, center and left have been thinking for the last few years.

[@valiantdiesel1332]

I couldn't agree with this more. Like, holy shit.

[@OMspot2277]

Amazing isn’t it?

[@WinstonBuford]

yeah..... Like......

[@GuzziHeroV50]

I'm very left wing, and I am constantly attacked for not being left wing enough. For criticising the ACAB statement, I am called a bootlicker. For suggesting that smashing up neighborhoods and looting them is not conducive for the community or a valid form of protest, I am called a fascist. For saying that it is OK to be attracted to someone of one race more than someone from another, I am told that I am fetishising that race. Its like going over the trench wall in a battlefield to find your own side is shooting you in the back.

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Glad I'm not alone

[@karlosthejackel69]

You made your bed, lie in it

[@Lttlemoi]

Welcome to the purity spiral.

[@izzyosborn637]

bootlicker

[@theshakter]

It must be hard to be on the wrong side knowing how much you will be told to bend the knee to another race you had nothing to do with.

[@adventuresof1010]

A powerful piece of Pie. This is true satire, it means something, it says something. Too long have comedians just commented on how ridiculous the woke & the powerful are. Jonathan has the ability to highlight, inform, & enthuse. Should we (reasonable people) just stand by in silence?

[@helenhughes7670]

Completely the most sensible thing I’ve heard anyone say in weeks. I could not agree more.

[@ajwebb220587]

Helen Hughes same

[@fluffycommander]

I'm literally too scared to share this, I may be forced into the incinerator.

[@halestorm123]

Me to 👽

[@halestorm123]

Mind you 👽 don't burn anyway so I should be fine

[@TheMajkla]

Leave your belongings here. It won't hurt a bit.

[@grease_monkey6078]

the fear of speech is their goal, your silence will be your doom , you're screwed either way

[@RedheadButNotReally]

I'm not. Bring it on.

[@Jimmer93]

Pie saying what everyone is thinking. So, how long until Pie is cancelled for "Controversial opinions"?

[@denverdenosta6365]

3 months 5 pound bet

[@jean-pascalheynemand3271]

His time will come...

[@originaluddite]

I think it depends on who you are co-dependent on. Have a lot of 'woke' friends and you are at risk of losing them. Be independent of all that and you can still say pretty much what you like. As a result the online activists do the most damage to each other.

[@Chris.Brisson]

With this one he may get relegated to the 2 AM time slot on HBO (to join George Carlin).

[@scatmann5839]

@Dave T You'll find out he does. Trust me.

[@Cunnysmythe]

This was such a delightful rant, this was a long time coming This way please, into the incinerator you must go 🤣

[@MrDanielvass]

Out of all the Pie videos over the years, this is both the scariest and most astute commentary I’ve seen from a reasonable traditional left winger

[@eternalism8274]

'left' in uk = 'left' in us?

[@percymerlin]

Definitely one of the best, sadly not so funny as so close to the truth

[@cidlockie]

Excellent piece of work, one of his finest.

[@Va11idus]

The way he casually says "right-wing bigots" shows that he really hasn't learned anything about dehumanizing people with different opinions. He's just upset now that he's next.

[@ladyoflimerick519]

Eh? You on drugs?

[@VoltaFlame]

When you consider that not being gainfully employed only just to be sacked for saying or doing the most innocuous thing, you know the whole world has gone stark raving mad!

[@Zneonn]

ahh one that is against us, to the incinerator.

[@TheSteve157]

The UK has gone fukin nuts

[@waynewanderer]

@@TheSteve157 i think it might be alot broader than just the UK

[@1leadvocal]

@@TheSteve157 It is definitely not just the U.K.

[@patthonsirilim5739]

not the whole world just the western world here in the developing world people give alot more to issue like food shelter education and work you know real issues and actual problems i guess when you become develop and wealthy you start finding nonsense like weather a man or woman who indentrfy themself should be able to use the other side toilet as a topic of to fight for hahaha

[@markkavanagh7377]

'The assumption of bigotry'. Yep, that's the problem.

[@MattThornton87]

Spot on!!

[@ReddwarfIV]

The funny thing is when he assumes free speech has been handed to "right-wing bigots".

[@deanlowdon8381]

ReddwarfIV It has, right wing bigots say whatever they want. Anyone supposedly on the ‘left’ isn’t allowed to stray from the narrow narrative in any way without being attacked...

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

@@ReddwarfIV Who else is representing free speech in politics currently? Even the Lib Dems have gone woke.

[@rowanimize]

In fairness though, this is much more complicated than he made out. Though people (e.g. Maxime Peake) may not *intend* to say something bigoted (in fact I'm sure she didn't), they do so without realising. It's not that people in her situation are bigots consciously, it's that they have SUBconsciously said a bigoted thing without even realising it. This is really the lesson of the Inherent Association Test (IAT) - perfectly normal people have biases (racist/sexist/homophobic) which they are not aware of, and which materialise between the lines of what they say. Even though the intent isn't there, I think it's still okay to criticise. I think it's quite reasonable to draw attention to the words people use and what they mean (throwing aside their intent or justification). I might (naively) say something racist - and just because I didn't intend to be racist does not grant me immunity from criticism. If confronted by that, I'd hope that I would be like: "Yeah, you know what, I shouldn't have said that - it's a bit worrying that that passed me by!". But instead often people react defensively (and are in a sort of denial) when confronted with these 'accusations'... and because they remain stubborn in the face of evidence, suddenly the act is no longer subconscious... at that point the bigotry *is* conscious. So the assumption holds.

[@MozrowDrops]

"To find out who rules over you, find out who you aren't allowed to criticize" - Voltaire

[@isaakwang750]

So... childen with cancer?

[@Tetizera]

This quote is incorrectly attributed by Voltaire. It's by neonazi Kevin Alfred Strom: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom

[@MozrowDrops]

@@Tetizera Is it so? Lol I wouldn't trust anything from Wikipedia

[@Tetizera]

@@MozrowDrops You don't need to trust Wikipedia, you can trust its sources.

[@MozrowDrops]

@@Tetizera again, I wouldn't trust Wikipedia, neither it's sources I do my own research

[@pixlepsycho3686]

Tfw I get called a transphobe for making a dark joke about trans people, even though I am trans myself.

[@valsan1323]

Made a joke about trans people? You're a Nazi. That's right,you are now in the SS.

[@MechMK1]

Calling it a "dark" joke is very racist

[@JezielProdigalSon]

Welcome to the "far right", my friend. We love all outcasts here.

[@IlluminatusX13]

What was the joke? I'm must know. Please share.

[@ukar69]

You’re obviously not trans enough.

[@MrXMysteriousX]

I went right 10 years ago when all this started getting really out of hand.I couldn't follow the "Oppression Olympics" of the left because i believed in egalitarianism, i believed identity politics would just further and further fracture our society and was branded "far right bigot" for having an opinion on sensible immigration reform or my wish to have the UK leave the EU. I've seen nothing but the escalation of cancel culture, just think how bad its got, all manner of comedy and tv shows partially or totally axed along with people who had "the wrong opinion" Look at how our media tells us "27 police officers being injured is a largely peaceful protest" whilst a protest defending statues where 23 were injured was blanketed with the claim "far right" (albeit a small portion were) And to be clear BOTH sides should have been comdemned,reported on and had the full weight of the law/police thrown at them-but i ask you, which group didn't ? The answer we sadly, already know... Look at how when it was for the "right causes" Covid disappeared, the rules about distancing, gone....but when you protested the lock down (before BLMs protest) or the protested the destruction of statues (by the right and those who saw how dangerous destroying history was) and suddenly the media and police "remembered" we were still in lockdown. We live in dangerous times. The politicians, the media/social media and police all try "outwoking each other" but are caught in a feedback loop which is destroying social cohesion for the ironic reason of fighting racism yet are facilitating its growth.

[@TFMagicMan]

It saddens me that as a long time left winger, I agree completely with everything you've said.

[@connorsmith5999]

@@TFMagicMan same man. consider myself mid left, that was a scary insight

[@Gauravkoolwal]

Oli Crooks Smith maybe we need to not classify as right or left but liberal and liberal in true sense where any backward or oppressive policy driven by religion/culture etc is not above criticism

[@PiousMoltar]

Okay but which right wing party would you suggest supporting? The Tories are a bunch of SJWs themselves. Well, half the party is. Besides, I would never consider myself right wing. It's just not true. Wealth inequality continues to grow. I will always believe the poor should be less poor and the rich should be less rich. Well, unless something actually changes, but I don't see that happening, not even under so-called "left wing" parties.

[@PiousMoltar]

"Look at how when it was for the "right causes" Covid disappeared, the rules about distancing, gone....but when you protested the lock down (before BLMs protest) or the protested the destruction of statues (by the right and those who saw how dangerous destroying history was) and suddenly the media and police "remembered" we were still in lockdown." Huh? That's the opposite of reality. BLM protesters out spreading Covid and causing literal deaths (how can they say any lives matter when they behave like that?) are considered untouchable to the media and the police. Yet people are still (rightfully) blasted for breaking social distancing rules in other situations.

[@Scotlanz]

Why am I reminded of The People's Front Of Judea?

[@charlielynes]

What happened to The Judean People's Front?

[@CheesyChimp69]

Splitters.

[@MisterTMH]

@@CheesyChimp69 No , the Popular front were the splitters!

[@horizonfishfinders]

Where are the popular front?

[@thethedeanshow]

horizonfishfinders he’s over there

[@Kurbisa]

Jonathan is bringing reason back to the left. I can't thank him enough for that.

[@tai-yomaruno3680]

He's trying. Hope it works

[@progpuss]

Totally agree but it's all been over played by the right to divide the eloctorate

[@seanoreilly1832]

You have a loooooooooooooooooong way to go soy boy

[@Kurbisa]

@@seanoreilly1832 You're wrong man, I'm more of a classic post-Berlin-wall leftist. I eat meat, I despise contemporary feminism and I kill fascists when I wake up.

[@bismarrezaaraisyi384]

Insult people by calling them soyboy, classic

[@christinegaskill1475]

This woke culture is aggressive nonsense. Agree with this video entirely.

[@ControlDesigns]

@Matt There's nothing commendable about being censorious to protect someones feelings

[@AlwaysAC]

Cazi the intention isn’t to protect feeling but lives. If you allow people to be dehumanised and racially degraded it doesn’t result in just hurt feeling, it results in death. Having said that what passes for left wing in modern neoliberals Democratic state is fucking useless at archive that and pretty much just make things worse by blaming the poor down trodden masses of a slightly lighter skin colour.

[@giantWario]

@@AlwaysAC Yeah the stats disagree with you on that. Hate crimes are going up. Everywhere. You know when they were at an all time low? The 90s/early 2000. Where was cancel culture back then? Where did you see people losing their job or being put in prison for racist comments or obvious jokes back then? You know what really cause racism? Segregation. You can't hate a group if you know members of that group and you can see that they are humans just like you. Segregation used to be a tool of the right wing bigots but now, the woke left are the one calling for segregation. Which is utterly insane. Putting people into groups even for the purpose of ''positive discrimination'' will always end up dividing people, will always give people an us vs them mentality.

[@desoliver9712]

@@giantWario *You know when they were at an all time low? The 90s/early 2000. Where was cancel culture back then?* * Correlation is not causation. 'Cancel culture' as it is known is a phenomenon unique to social media. Hate crimes have been steadily on the rise and saw a surge around the time of the referendum alongside the increase of nationalism and anti-immigrant sentiment as a political tool to galvanise certain groups in UK society. Similarly in the U.S with the Trump phenomenon, the *mainstream* support of BLM groups were in response to Trumps "anti-other" rhetoric. * It's worth noting that reporting and data capture of hate crimes have become much more sophisticated and so part of the rise can be attributed to this, also given the shift in attitude it has become more common for victims of hate crime to come forward, and for their crimes to be treated more seriously. * Economically, the 1990s was a relatively prosperous period, with extensive improvements in social welfare. The tipping point where tensions begin to rise is after the 2008 economic collapse, the impact of which has been wage stagnation for almost a decade, and a rise in poverty. * *Where did you see people losing their job or being put in prison for racist comments or obvious jokes back then?* * Your question conflates two different things. 1.) Companies have long had the right to terminate people's employment based on actions the employee commits outside of work hours which bring the company into disrepute. What's changed is that civilians are engaging in very public displays of racism, or lewdness which comes to the attention of the company in a much more exposed way, which is difficult for the company to ignore. * The Crime and Disorder Act wasn't introduced until 1998 which might be the reason why fewer people were convicted for acts relating to hate crime. And again, much of the examples of hate crime that make the headlines tend to be related to social media. The rise of social media occurred circa 2006. In the case of Markus Meechan, (who was not imprisoned but fined £800 in breach of the Communications Act 2003) his defence team failed to convince the court that the video was only intended for his girlfriend as he claimed. * *Putting people into groups even for the purpose of ''positive discrimination'' will always end up dividing people* * What are you basing this opinion on exactly? Less than 10 years ago the department for work and pensions commissioned a study to explore racial bias in the job application market. They created CVs and application forms that were comparable in qualification and experience, half with names like "john smith" and "Ian brown", the other half revealing the ethnicity of the applicant i.e. African and Asian names. They sent out over 1000 of these to a range of companies across a broad spectrum of industries. Their findings revealed that for the minority applicants to receive the same level of callback they would have to send out 75% more. * This study is one in a literal ocean of peer-reviewed research across an array of areas from housing to the criminal justice system. Nuffield college, university of Oxford conducted a similar study (this time over 3000 CV/applications) comparing their finding to several decades of field research going back to the 1960s-they found through a similar blind test that the numbers were between 75-90% depending on the sector and ethnicity. * Companies which make efforts to 'diversify' their staff are under no obligation to do so-enforced positive discrimination is illegal throughout Europe, so the idea that companies have to have quotas is a fictitious lie drummed up, most likely, by right-wing media. Institutions which make efforts to ensure equal opportunities come no-where close to undoing the pattern of racial bias indicated by the studies. The case of the U.S is somewhat different because of their complex history with legal segregation and the continuous efforts to reintroduce it by far-right groups.

[@desoliver9712]

@Matt Perhaps you are right, (in your first sentence, definitely not the last which I won't address here) but I think there is somewhat of a conflation going on between 'cancel culture' and 'wokeness'. However, BOTH are behaviours found in left and right-wing circles.

[@andychaplin5207]

This needs to be played in every single household in the entire world

[@ajwebb220587]

Andy Chaplin yep

[@lindam4133]

Definitely!

[@l_j_e]

Thought yous hated North korea

[@pinkenbajedi2119]

It’s almost like there was a book about Russian gulags that covered this a long while back?

[@lordbezzington8435]

"That comrade is the wrong opinion, a Tenner in the gulag for you!"

[@fencserx9423]

That’s a Tenner

[@ecmorgan69]

You just know that Leftists didn't read it. Solzhenitsyn is problematic. So is Ayn Rand for that matter.

[@redpaddys12]

The moustache doesn't like your thinking, Comrade KZbinr. 10 years re-education.

[@MrAranton]

@stevie bops Judging socialism by the gulag system is like judiging christianity by the inquisition and the witch-trials.

[@TheCSC017]

I've been liberal my entire life, only to see western liberalism collapse under this arbitrary "woke" agenda. So thank you, Mr. Pie, for bringing reason back to the ideals I've valued for so long. And, just saying.... Jonathan Pie MP?

[@sentinal2343]

You alrady put one in office, his name is BORIS JOHNSON, how did that "woke"out for you ? you,re end as a relevant society!! continue and you as a people will follow shortly behind, Ukraine anyone? dumb as ever!!!

[@mrmacguff1n]

Where's the comedy and sarcasm? This is just a reporter actually reporting the state of things

[@savannahrosedigitalillustr1946]

Comedy and sarcasm are in the incinerator, all we have now is anger bile and fury

[@LuisAldamiz]

Yes, still a good speech but it's a bit like the end of "The Great Dictator", anti-climatic.

[@dbulloch8361]

Comedy is cancelled.

[@don_barbour]

That's the exact format to every single episode. Try eating more fish?

[@electricebb3337]

it's one of those cases where you just have to laugh, at how ridiculous the world is, fascism on the left and right

[@andynixon2820]

We used to have a labour party that was just concerned with jobs , housing , the NHS and schools . That was it . Hope it comes back one day .

[@outsidespac3]

Those are still the primary concerns of the labour party (or at least were under Corbyn). Don't let right-wing propaganda tell you otherwise

[@stephenjones7040]

@@outsidespac3 The 2017 Labour party rule book contained 41 mentions of BAME, 26 of gender and 43 of ethnic but only 2 of class.

[@THISISLolesh]

I wish young working class brits could get a council property nowadays without pumping out a kid.

[@urgannagru9068]

@@stephenjones7040 Talking about class is not seen positively in today's political climate and what the original comment said had little to do with class. The mentions of the things you mentioned, however, are all to do with equality a firm socialist foundation so by talking about those things in the rule book they are in keeping with socialist tradition.

[@outsidespac3]

@@stephenjones7040 That seems appropriate for a 'rulebook'. the manifesto is what matters, and Labour's manifesto was in both 2017 and 2019 centred around issues of economic inequality and workers' rights

[@maciej9280]

"the Revolution devours its children" - Jacques Mallet du Pan

[@craigreardon3914]

I was thinking that. You know who else had a narrow view of morality that only they could see that if people didn’t live up to it found themselves on the chopping block? Robespierre.

[@WarblesOnALot]

G'day, "Why do all the various camps of Revolutionaries attack each other...?" "Because they are the only people who they can beat...(!)" From the movie, "The Gods Must Be Crazy...!" Just(ifiaby ?) sayin'... Such is Life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !

[@craigreardon3914]

WarblesOnALot it’s the entropy of victory. Once your combined enemies are defeated, you can turn on your true enemies, the ones who don’t match up to your ideals. Take as old as time.

[@TheZorginator1]

@@WarblesOnALot I mean...the phrase "the revolution devours its children" comes from a time where revolutionaries had just spent years beating the shit out of everyone else. At that point the king was dead and most of the nobility had fled the country or been imprisoned/executed. Revolutionaries attack each other for two reasons, because they are arguing about what to do after they beat everyone else, or because they've finished beating everyone else and have started arguing about what to do now.

[@Autonova]

In George Orwell’s 1984, the truth is kept secret. In Albert Huxley’s Brave New World, it’s drowned in a sea of irrelevance.

[@AuntieWelly]

Aldous Huxley

[@silvermane9370]

this week in Scotland: man convicted of racial hatred for calling an Irishman a f**king leprechaun. Absolutely true.

[@warbler1984]

Yeah but was he a leprechaun?

[@silvermane9370]

Colm M it doesn’t matter, if his tender sensibilities were hurt you’re done for. The law only considers the words used not their intent ie. you might have been joking but that doesn’t matter the recipient has found you guilty of a hate crime and the law agrees.

[@marvintpandroid2213]

What a Caber tossing twat.

[@drifter402]

4 people got arrested for George Floyd jokes. These protesters should be protesting this but they don't care

[@J0NNYLURVECABBAGE]

Calling someone a leprechaun in Scotland can have a deeper meaning than elsewhere in the UK, your forgetting the long history of sectarian violence there.....

[@nicolaabbate4704]

This deserves 100 million views This is the most important message of the decade Please share this everywhere you can

[@jameshill4911]

Irony and nuance came down with those statues. And we’re back to McCarthyism where you can lose your job for an opinion unrelated to the performance of that job.

[@knockitoffhudson3470]

The left has been going after peoples jobs for at least 10 years. A mix of thinking your opponents opinion is too dangerous to be heard and outrage for the sake of outrage.

[@Relbl]

Except in McCarthy's case he was right... Hollywood and academia were absolutely crawling with communists (who were incidentally 'anti-fascists') and their subversion has led to what we are seeing today with cover from the rest of the left

[@CameronAdamsify]

Isn’t that what the right fought for? At-will employment? Are you/they going to complain now that it’s working against them?

[@TheJimbles]

@@Relbl McCarthy was right? Woah. Haven't heard talk of the Red Scare around these parts for quite some time... What tripe.

[@roxy2912a]

@@Relbl So it was ok to silence their opinions? Irony in the extreme!

[@finnic7959]

I love the setup of these videos. Start and end with the dull news cast trying to sound empathetic voice, to just saying as it is

[@victoriarobinson9434]

Hits the nail on the head... I was actually going to post this to my Facebook page, as I think it is perfect. But I am genuinely too frightened of retaliation/ offending people who don't agree and will not engage in 'nuanced debate'.

[@wallonmcwoolworth819]

Lol

[@brittanydawn2633]

I've had this for the past two weeks. I questioned an Olly'n'Pop video that was blantant political campaigning aimed at kids and have had no end in "friends" calling me a conspiracy theorist, taking the piss out of women who want to maintain female-only rape refuge centres and insinuating I'm a bigot. Now I hate going on FB because it's just toxic.

[@brittanydawn2633]

@Daniel Welch absolutely it is!

[@victoriarobinson9434]

@@brittanydawn2633 I am sorry to hear that! I don't know if you remember the news story from Thailand a while ago regarding those poor children who were trapped in a cave. I posted something on Facebook saying something along the lines of how great it was to hear that all the children had been safely rescued, and congratulations to everyone who was involved. I got criticised heavily for that post, because one of the rescue party tragically died. I was mortified that I could be perceived as being insensitive. That absolutely wasn't my intent!

[@PeterDekker]

I did post it and while I added a disclaimer that I fully support BLM I got rants about "white privilege" and basically I shouldn't comment because I don't know "the struggle"... So yeah, good call. ;)

[@Rob749s]

For everyone only just feeling like this; welcome to the party. The rest of us have felt like this for years. This is why people left the Left.

[@nathanhobson1142]

Rob749s. And Pie recently showed some ignorance/misfired when he sla**ed off the result of being shoved further and further away from one's political home (e.g. average Liberal left) by lunatic ideologues when he did his recent rant against red pilling. It's happened to almost everyone I know. Take the last general election as a far wider example... Oh and, admittedly way way off topic (sorry), but just to have a quick random rant myself, Sir Starmer is no friend to the victims of the Rotherham child sex slave rings. More people should know the actions he took to protect the perverts.

[@iamreg1965]

@@nathanhobson1142 "Sir Starmer is no friend to the victims of the Rotherham child sex slave rings. More people should know the actions he took to protect the perverts." Well mate here's you big chance to tell us all about it. Off you go...fill ya boots.

[@te1327]

You don't leave a political ideology becasue a small but vocal amount of people go around 'cancelling' people, especially since how diverse the lefts thought are your specific ideology on the left is probably completely different to those people.

[@deanlowdon8381]

iamreg1965 I’ve been waiting a while for someone to actually explain these comments about Starmer...

[@AlwaysAC]

Rob749s Murdoch and his lot are laughing their heads off. This isn’t the left, this ain’t what the left stands for, but you can be damn sure it’s what the sun and daily mail will tell you the left stands for. Once you allow the multi billionaires to control the public image of your own ideology you’ve lost.

[@otterspocket2826]

I've had 'issues' with more 'Jonathan Pie' videos than not recently (and yet I'm still subscribed, almost as if he's entitled to hold a different opinion on some matters), but this one is right up there with the early ones that earned my subscription in the first place - probably the best I've seen on the current 'identity' shit show. I've criticised you a few times in the past Tom, but many thanks for this particular offering. The country needs this video, and this channel generally (even when you're 'wrong').

[@dirt_slab]

why all the 'quotes'

[@hufclufc]

Mate, you don't pay for your subscription, just press a button. wtf?

[@Puketapu]

@@dirt_slab it's a Donald Trump trick. It implies knowledge

[@Mentocthemindtaker]

@@dirt_slab Because they don't understand how to use them.

[@KarenScoGa]

Thanks for speaking the truth. I've been struggling with this for a while and you elegantly packaged it for me. Glad to know there are so many others who feel the same.

[@tgheretford]

"To the incinerator" will be the next quiz show catchphrase.

[@Themata]

Not likely. If you or I said that in public, it'd be to the incinerator for us - "you're comparing your supposed struggles with those of Jewish people under the Nazi boot? I'm vicariously offended good sir, I'll hold these perls while you step into the ash maker"

[@valofalconery]

Shared on every social media I have. This needs to be heard by everyone! He has just voiced EXACTLY what is happening to an insane leave of accuracy

[@martynspooner5822]

Well said and about time, judging people from 100 years ago by today's standards is madness. The virtue signalling and the identity politics is nauseating. There was some guy that said whoever has not sinned throw the first stone, unfortunately he has been deplatformed and cancelled or at least that is what they are trying to do.

[@Mistersamweller]

They are calling for his likeness to be destroyed from churches (specially the white version of that person... because of racism...)

[@juniorjunior5884]

@J S I'm of the opinion that statues of the past should be placed in museums so we don't forget the mistakes of our forefathers. They don't represent today, they weren't all good or bad, but we as a society have moved on long past their ways to a brighter future. We should have that in museums to display the past accurately.

[@pixiniarts]

At the moment is not just those people who are on trail but their entire fucking race, all white people are up on trail for the actions of people hundreds of years ago. I've actually seen people talking about being 'ashamed' of being white. The fact we are expected to feel guilt or shame for people whos views, attitudes and actions are archaic, abhorrent and in no way reflect our own views, attitudes and actions because we share skin colour is absolutely racist.

[@tx5190]

@@pixiniarts The fact that Africans sold Africans into slavery to the highest bidder is conveniently ignored. Before the Europeans arrived Africans were selling their own to the Arabs and other Africans for centuries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Colston

[@alexrich2045]

It legitimately makes me well up to hear Jonathan Pie. Gives me serious hope.

[@YouTellMe]

“Eat the Left.” - The Left

[@JoseWhon]

And it absolutely will.

[@StreetfighterU]

@@Poon1312 they aren't liberals

[@hanamlchl]

I simply wish they'd started with themselves first. But huzzah the victorious revolution...and now dessert. With a side of myself.

[@gdr38515]

This should be compulsory viewing in schools. One of the best ever critiques. Great work.

[@ShadowNymph2010]

We don’t want kids to think for themselves though right? Just the illusion of independence should be enough.

[@arcarsenal1380]

Liberal identity politics is cancer, and Keir has made himself the king of it. The gross little cretin

[@gordonhaddow8345]

To the 3% of the earth's population that use Twitter: This video....

[@Thedistinguishedgentleman8045]

Only 3%? Wow, it feels like so much more...

[@goodname7613]

@@Thedistinguishedgentleman8045 i guess i should be happy that ONLY 3% of people are willfully letting their life be sucked put of them

[@klontjespap]

@@goodname7613 even more happy that a good chunk of those people probably use it because they're running some internet business or YT channel and kind of need it for their news updates or exposure. in its core you could use twitter as it were an rss feed, but with people actually seeing it, they used to before everything got politicized lol i know many people that don't use social media except for having a direct feedback channel towards their customers for their small businesses. facebook is still oddly popular here (netherlands) as a chat platform under younger people too, that's where all the people are.

[@mjkg6026]

Gordon Haddow Twitter is actually one of the worst social media platforms in the world, it’s truly worrying

[@Harlock2day]

People are sheep and follow like herd, they are easily manipulated. That is what world leaders understand and put in practice everyday knowing that whatever little resistance is out there is is swept aside by the woke minions. But, and that's our only hope, not all people are the same, southern Europeans do not care to appear racist if their liberties are at stake. The Japanese instead would even be happy to be ruled by robots, apparently 🙄

[@LennyJohnson5]

Love Jonathan Pie/Tom Walker and all he does, but this has to be the absolute zenith of all his satirical diatribes... razor sharp and unerringly accurate.

[@tantalus-pl6qc]

"I just a want proper discussion on the implications of..." "(interrupting) no no no!! This way please. Into the incinerator." 😄😄😄

[@SparkyLabs]

yes, my sentiment exactly. I keep trying to explain that debates with the people you agree with are pointless.

[@ecmorgan69]

@@SparkyLabs If you agree with someone about a point, then isn't a discussion rather than a debate?

[@mnomadvfx]

@@ecmorgan69 You can still agree with someone during a debate, the whole point of a debate is to make your point until someone agrees with you.

[@marlo8867]

This isn't even satire, nothing here is overly exaggerated, it's just fact.

[@Syphered08]

exactly it's not comedy but news more acurate than the news

[@chrisko6439]

Psst, don't tell anyone: satire has a better chance of surviving a lawsuit than facts. It is satire. Period ;-)

[@tuppenceberresford2656]

This isn't satire, this is a good old sermon )

[@marlo8867]

@@chrisko6439 that was my thinking. Thank god there's a relatively mainstream voice speaking out about this, it sometimes seems like the whole world has gone mad!

[@DreamteamCarlo]

I've watched a lot of Pie and this is the first time I suspect him of having done the entire vid in 1 take. ;) Well spoken, and well done.

[@dougle03]

Almost all his videos are 1 take, but I think you mean first take?

[@DreamteamCarlo]

@@dougle03 Indeed

[@CarrionCrow993]

Its so gratifying to see the punishment go full circle ive watched this video 5 times. Anyone with a grasp of history would have noticed that most tyrant's cronies were also hoisted by their own petard.

[@louishoskin9046]

I'm a leftie and this is spot on as always.

[@krashd]

The extremes of both left and right are always the ones that piss in the stew for everybody.

[@redberries8039]

I'm right-wing and this is spot on

[@lie2297]

Lefty tosser

[@TheHelitubby]

"Best just keep quiet innit" - says everything . As always .... BRILLIANT!

[@mebtor]

- Thou shalt interpret everything in the worst possible way. (The first commandment of The Church of Woke)

[@o00nemesis00o]

- Thou shalt interpret everything the priesthood says in the best possible way - There art no bad tactics; only there art bad targets

[@MuckyMcPuppy]

Nice to see someone on the left being the voice of reason and calling the woke insanity out...

[@sentinal2343]

On the left? ha ha a racist is a racist and is neither left nor right!! as he has clearly demonstrated here! as we thought he was what you refer to, HOW WRONG ARE WE?, SEVERLY DISAPOINTED WHEN THAT HAPPENS, another career in the bin for they can,t help the facsist in themselves!!

[@abdihassan7208]

from this video, he isnt a leftist. If anything, he seems to be an ultra conservative

[@sentinal2343]

@@abdihassan7208 Polite way of phrasing it,but you,re correct!!

[@someoneelse3456]

@@abdihassan7208 He doesn't like the far left therefore he must be far right! Infallible reasoning!

[@magicbuns4868]

Funny how the satirical journalism of today was professional journalism of yesterday.

[@chrisheynes4525]

Good. He’s back. May be one of only a few people discussing these things. Good man.

[@jessanderson2426]

2020 Feels Like a South Park Season. If South Park doesnt make an episode about this i will be amazed

[@adammada511]

I can't wait for the next season now that you mention it :)

[@alexfields8785]

Well with trump for example they didn't just make an episode but an overarching story that spanned more than a season. This seems like one of those scenarios. Probably already in the making

[@designanddirection]

The last broadcast before the gulag / re-education camp / Diversity & Inclusion seminar

[@monkeymonk4082]

Southpark provides actual PSA's. Dont worry they're coming, and they brought a really BIG mirror.

[@PopeyeBjj86]

They already did one on defunding the police. So they've probably already done one on this.

[@johnny2hats144]

Sweet Jesus I love this character, but ffs! I only discovered Jonathan Pie a few weeks ago, I’ve a lot of catching up to do. These vids are restoring my faith in humanity (snd profanity 😂) . Thank you Jonathan. We need your kind more than ever 👍

[@CaptainFrantic]

I have been so starved of rationality recently that this video made me burst into tears. Hope restored!

[@CaptainFrantic]

@Rain Dog Hope destroyed! Thanks! *angryface*

[@doktorfury8616]

Too bad we don't have a Jonathan Pie over here across the pond. Let's not let free speech or thoughts die.

[@ismailhassan9038]

Andrew Schulz. Not quite the same. But well, take what you can get

[@amonk97]

Tucker Carlson

[@savvaspapadopoulos7214]

Try Beau of the Fifth Column.

[@bigtakeshi]

@@amonk97 Tucker is a right-wing conservative commentator. Pie/Tom Walker is a liberal himself but who is pissed at the "extreme left" of "Woke cancel culture." Not the same by any means. To Tucker Carlson, anyone who is liberal is part of the "woke cancel culture" even though that's not true.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

@@bigtakeshi - Tucker Carlson is more liberal than any Democrat is.

[@karatechimp1]

Nice to see Pie's back on form. Absolutely nails the horror show that is the modern woke left. Hope he doesn't get cancelled.

[@Cyber_Crows]

It was a deeply dishonest video. Perpetuating the myth the left are worse than the right on free speech. Not only do the right love cancel culture be it Ash Sarkar, Anita Sarkesian, Munroe Bergdorf, Brie Larsson, Megan Kelly, Steven Bonnell, Zoe Quinn, Ilhan Omar etc.. They cheer on the idea of state-controlled social media, consider the press the enemy of the people and want them silenced, support Internet controls like the snooper's charter and label political opponents terrorist organisations. They oppose people's right to protest, be it extinction rebellion who they literally banned or black lives matter where they cheer on America using state violence to trample on 1st Amendment rights. Let's not also forget, these are the people who wants to censor pornography and control the sex acts you engage in or the people you fuck. If you ever needed a more perfect example, they invented their own free speech app and are now currently banning left-wingers on it.

[@thestretch]

@@Cyber_Crows being against identity politics means being against both the groups you describe. You're setting up a false dichotomy.

[@aeliren85]

Cancel culture is bad, on both sides. The difference is that left-wing cancel culture has managed to worm its way into being seen as “correct”. Right-wing cancel culture is fairly obvious and is rightfully called out where it happens, but they’re the designated “insidious villains”. Left-wing cancel culture designated itself and paints itself as the “righteous heroes” and people believe it. It’s made it to mainstream western culture, social media, news, etc. They hold a large amount of political power through social media, which is what Pie is denouncing. What control does right-wing media have that if you’re not “right” enough you’re denounced and left jobless? But on the flipside, if you’re not “left” enough... come right this way with me, my friend, into the incinerator you go! Cancel culture on both sides are bad, but one side has convinced enough people that they were the “good guys” that they have gained control over what can and must be said, and what cannot be said - regardless of context.

[@karatechimp1]

@@Cyber_Crows Your wrong.

[@northernkarma9296]

He speaks to EV-ER-Y-ONE when he made this video. I am amazed it hasn't been taken down. Bless you Jonathan. You totally rock this world on every level.

[@elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen]

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