Wolff criminal complaint exposes toxic F1/FIA relationship

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Formula 1’s off-track controversies show no sign of abating in 2024. What’s more, the string of negative headlines has exposed F1’s lack of leadership at a time when it’s under fire on and off track.
The latest big story is F1 Academy managing director Susie Wolff filing a criminal complaint in France against the FIA.
With F1 constantly grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons in 2024, the lack of leadership has been shockingly exposed in recent months.
That’s not just a criticism of FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem. F1 is effectively run by a combination of the FIA as the regulator and commercial rights holder Liberty Media.
Amid all of this, Formula 1 Group CEO Stefano Domenicali has also been conspicuous by his absence when it comes to tackling F1's various controversies.
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@welles28
@welles28 2 ай бұрын
As a fan of F1 since the '70s, all I see here is a group of rich, powerful people maneuvering for more money and power. Ron Dennis' quote once again applies: "welcome to the piranha club".
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 2 ай бұрын
How do you think people become rich and powerful? By accident?
@Germanicus-
@Germanicus- 2 ай бұрын
Sounds just like government.
@_Diamond-Dog
@_Diamond-Dog 2 ай бұрын
As a fan since 1989 all I can say this sport is a farce now
@gelmir7322
@gelmir7322 2 ай бұрын
yeah this isn't new at all the Either Sulayem is doing something "right" and the "piranhas" do not want any changes in the swamp. or Sulayem is just a stand in for another bigger "piranha" (I suspect the rich arab oil-kings) who are planning to take over the sports.
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 2 ай бұрын
That has been the case since forever. If F1 was ever managed by people that just liked racing it happened in its first 10 years max. Once things got big it was all about power and money. People treat this stuff as something new and that's senseless.
@martinlaver4707
@martinlaver4707 2 ай бұрын
The result of all this will be, of course, a 20 second time penalty for Alonso.
@simondepass4647
@simondepass4647 2 ай бұрын
🤣
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget a Grid Penalty for Ocon or Gasly, as you do.
@jamesdrummond7684
@jamesdrummond7684 2 ай бұрын
the irony is that crown prince douchebag literally incorrectly interfered to get alonso out of a legitimate penalty
@shehryarkhan2916
@shehryarkhan2916 2 ай бұрын
2 hour penalty for Ocon
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 2 ай бұрын
20 second penalty for Alonso looking at Russel in a mean way.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 2 ай бұрын
A joint investigation by the FIFA and IOC found no corruption. At all
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 2 ай бұрын
​@MarkG11400this happens too much
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY 2 ай бұрын
I'll give my ruling after lunch and a round of golf with the lobbyists
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
As they say, there are no guilty people in jails/prisons, just ask them.
@stephenkutrip6226
@stephenkutrip6226 2 ай бұрын
lol; would that be an investigation or an exchange of corruption tips?
@eddieredmann3
@eddieredmann3 2 ай бұрын
"We found no evidence of these conversations that have happened between a husband and wife. Therefore, we see no issue!"
@camcambambam5128
@camcambambam5128 2 ай бұрын
I’m so sick of the fia, liberty media & f1 stewards
@Car_Fanatic
@Car_Fanatic 2 ай бұрын
Liberty media made f1 more mainstream and profitable yes. But ruined the sport by manipulating the FIA and increasing ticket prices. The only good thing since they took over is the f1 tv app
@MMAli-rq8kd
@MMAli-rq8kd 2 ай бұрын
The FIA is far from perfect but Liberty Media and the F1 teams are trying to get rid of any resistance to their franchise like when FIA approved Andretti's to enter F1 while the teams and FOM didn't! Every second word coming out of their mouth is "transparency" while they operate in the shadows of incestuous organizations (FOM, Liberty Media, F1 teams) staffed by nepotism.
@johnbeer4963
@johnbeer4963 2 ай бұрын
And Sky Sports
@CatsFerDays
@CatsFerDays 2 ай бұрын
Go watch a spec series then
@dantheracer99
@dantheracer99 2 ай бұрын
That's FIA stewards matey!
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp 2 ай бұрын
It’s all just a power grab, they’re all snakes trying to get up the ladder
@piuthemagicman
@piuthemagicman 2 ай бұрын
those slithery bastards
@tuna5618
@tuna5618 2 ай бұрын
Corrupt snakes playing hot potato (without hands?) with corruption allegations. It's all a complete joke.
@LiftandCoa
@LiftandCoa 2 ай бұрын
​@@tuna5618Well... yesn't. Its a joke because this isnt about Kingdoms and Titles and its not because thats just how politicking works.
@nikkipdx4109
@nikkipdx4109 2 ай бұрын
agree, it's like trying to tank a stocks reputation to drop the price and grab power
@porcini_boy
@porcini_boy 2 ай бұрын
How many times have we heard the word transparency of late
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 ай бұрын
Few normal people have the knowledge to make an educated comment on these issues anyway. Your so-called transparency would bring nobody good other than satisfying your own desire for controversy.
@josesammut9396
@josesammut9396 2 ай бұрын
​@jkliao6486 oh yeah yeah
@josesammut9396
@josesammut9396 2 ай бұрын
😋🤤🤤🤤🤤
@ohyeahbaby768
@ohyeahbaby768 2 ай бұрын
Far too many.
@porcini_boy
@porcini_boy 2 ай бұрын
​@@jkliao6486​Not 100% sure what you're getting at there, based from my comment. I don't particularly have any personal desire for controversy as you alluded I have. I was merely making the point that it seems to be the word of the moment within F1. That said, the fact that it is, shows that there is an issue there. Whether you wish to derive pleasure through controversy, as you suggested, is up to the individual but evidently it's highlighting a real issue within the sport.
@ryanwhittle6525
@ryanwhittle6525 2 ай бұрын
I find it pretty rich of Zak Brown calling for transparency when he's been sued by more drivers than the rest of the grid combined. Why don't we have a little more transparency into the acquisition of Oscar Piastri? Pato O'ward? What about some REAL transparency as to why no Andretti in F1?
@kuba_t11
@kuba_t11 Ай бұрын
piastri never signed with alpine and chose mclaren. there’s nothing more to be transparent about. just poor mismanagement from otmar
@wildsnivy7225
@wildsnivy7225 2 ай бұрын
Do you guys remember Formula One? The sport where cars go vroom and drive in circles for two hours and everyone cheers? That was nice. I wonder if we'll get to do that again someday
@DickTahshon
@DickTahshon 2 ай бұрын
It died in 2021 when they said f$ck the rules.
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY 2 ай бұрын
more races and more drama - welcome to F1 in 2020s
@simondepass4647
@simondepass4647 2 ай бұрын
🤣
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
@@THIS---GUY I've been watching F1 for over 45 years and it was like this from the start. Anyone remember the FISA/FOCA wars of 1980-82?
@woodduck2178
@woodduck2178 2 ай бұрын
​@@DickTahshonF1 has been a shit show in terms of rules ever since the 50s.
@mmjohns2705
@mmjohns2705 2 ай бұрын
I really don’t see how this lady can have this job to begin with since she’s married to someone that’s not allowed to know what she knows, yet marital priveledge would apply in courts. This is a crazy situation with an insane conflict of interest to begin with.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
Yawn.
@JS-ct1uo
@JS-ct1uo 2 ай бұрын
Because shes not involved in any f1 decisions and has no access to any information involving f1, so she has no relevant info that Toto doesn't already know.
@mmjohns2705
@mmjohns2705 2 ай бұрын
@@JS-ct1uo so they invented everything including the legal basis for looking in to her? 🙃
@JS-ct1uo
@JS-ct1uo 2 ай бұрын
@@mmjohns2705 It seems at the moment they made up the initial complaint at least. The FIA can investigate people but they should at least need some probable cause to investigate especially if they will publicly announce such an investigation (strange they didn't make an announcement concerning the multiple investigations into the FIA president). So unless they reveal some major evidence otherwise, this seems to be just some random baseless accusation they broadcast to the media. Also as stated in my earlier comment, she is not involved in any f1 decisions and has no access to any confidential information involving f1. You claim its some insane conflict of interest but have yet to give any reasonable way that she could have acquired any important information. Simply stating she works for FOM is not enough as FOM have rules and systems in place to stop the spread of such information. The only people I've seen complaining about a conflict of interest are random commenters like yourself who probably have no idea about the systems in place and which the 9 other teams all find satisfactory and have raised no concerns in regards to her hiring.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 ай бұрын
I still don't understand what's with the problem with FIA looking into this conflict of interest back in the days. And for people who still don't understand what conflict of interest means, it is a statement of who you are, rather than what you have done.
@scottthomson9813
@scottthomson9813 2 ай бұрын
I've commented before on these people calling for transparency. If it was them, they'd move heaven & earth to keep it quiet. Investigations are not held openly or announced until a result is found. HR or security related issues must, by privacy law, be done without allowing alleged or inappropriate actions of any kind out into the open. If someone is falsely accused then a "transparent" investigation will still destroy their career. If someone is guilty, then a press release can be issued. Transparency is anything but and only creates a media fueled circus. Which of course, is the whole point of this.
@InsufficientGravitas
@InsufficientGravitas 2 ай бұрын
It is completely possible to anonymise information without being forced to keep everything quiet and hope that the people in charge don't just investigate themselves and find nothing wrong.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Well said!!!
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
@@InsufficientGravitasno cos Horner was named from day 1 while Fiona Hewitsons name is on purpose never mentioned…. THIS IS A FULL ON PLANNED SLANDER CAMPAIGN payed by a very rich person….not Fiona, someone is paying her big buck to hire the spin doctor she hired…. This is all planned and financed…
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
@@InsufficientGravitasan independent law firm investigated Fiona’s claims…. It wasn’t an internal investigation. Her claims were false.
@MrSnrSquishy
@MrSnrSquishy 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Transparency should come AFTER the fact, you cant be transparent otherwise because new information could come to light which could label some transparent information as outright lies.
@Hashslingingslasherrr
@Hashslingingslasherrr 2 ай бұрын
It’s laughable how obvious this is. I’m sure Susie and Toto never discuss work at the dinner table 🙄
@sergeykuznetsov8291
@sergeykuznetsov8291 2 ай бұрын
How is it permissible for Toto and Susie to hold their positions, given they are husband and wife?
@lysandrourena1610
@lysandrourena1610 2 ай бұрын
who cares. it's just drama
@chrismuz
@chrismuz 2 ай бұрын
Okay then, Mr & Mrs Wolff, for the sake of total transparency please let the public know, for example a) how you knew beforehand of the Red Bull Racing budget overspend? b) how exactly Mercedes had a secondary floor stay prepared for the race in Canada in 2022, when the very late notice of this FIA technical directive meant it was impossible for any other team to react in time (thus Mercedes gaining an unfair advantage)?? Thank you in anticipation.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
Yawn. What a pathetic comment.
@raphwalker9123
@raphwalker9123 2 ай бұрын
But but but they are just sexist because shes a woman and because Hamilton is mixed race!!!!! 😅😅😅
@slippyjoeb7948
@slippyjoeb7948 2 ай бұрын
I felt the same. I don't trust Sussie and Toto. They're full of narratives.
@suckmyballs696
@suckmyballs696 2 ай бұрын
How did Redbull know Ferrari was manipulating its power unit in 2019??
@petelius86
@petelius86 2 ай бұрын
now you did it 20s penalty for Alonso 😂
@TheLMFAOZ
@TheLMFAOZ 2 ай бұрын
What would be ironic is the Wolff complaint to backfire at her and they finding out that she actually did leak information to her hubby...
@beilultesfom4929
@beilultesfom4929 2 ай бұрын
I mean it is really easy for her to do
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
Likewise, it would be ironic if, after you said that, someone defamed you.
@Truth12345
@Truth12345 2 ай бұрын
From what I understand from the commend section it happened on multiple occasions.
@utahnl
@utahnl 2 ай бұрын
Susie acting so darn insulted over allegations that were not even directed at her, leads me to believe there is some truth to it, but we'll probably never know since the investigation was dropped before completion. This criminal court case she started reeks of trying to send a message.
@jim9667
@jim9667 2 ай бұрын
100%
@SDRaygon
@SDRaygon 2 ай бұрын
Again, Toto knew something he should have had no way of knowing, and them having an extra floor stay ready for Canada 2022, also proves he knew something that you could not have known unless you had insider information.
@JFSR_777
@JFSR_777 2 ай бұрын
He also knew about RB overspend before hand. The Wolf's are the ones getting away with it all.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. We all know that. It was strike 3. It was the floor in Canada, the RBR budget issue AND now in Vegas 2023 Toto misspoke during a teambosses meeting…he again had confidentional F1 info the other teambosses didn’t have….
@menebe
@menebe 2 ай бұрын
If the FIA had a clue that susie wolf was leaking stuff. Then why do they stop the Investigation huh?
@menebe
@menebe 2 ай бұрын
​@@Redlingsteinthe way to prove you conspiracies theories is simple, DON'T STOP THE INVESTIGATION.
@jeevangill2041
@jeevangill2041 2 ай бұрын
​@@menebeYh, and the investigation was stopped because susie pulled the misogyny card.
@angel_one1259
@angel_one1259 2 ай бұрын
Zack Brown's comment is not counted as he is just a mindless puppet of Wolff.
@slippyjoeb7948
@slippyjoeb7948 2 ай бұрын
Agree haha nice one.
@eastbaystreet1242
@eastbaystreet1242 2 ай бұрын
Sincere question (I'm not being a smart ass): what does that mean - how is Brown a puppet of Wolf (I am a newbie, not up on all of this history). TIA!
@Heisenberg_747
@Heisenberg_747 2 ай бұрын
I told you she was toxic no one believed me.
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 2 ай бұрын
F1 is a sport on Sundays, Every other day is a business, and a pretty controversial one
@Heist1000
@Heist1000 2 ай бұрын
BINGO! Just like football / basketball / soccer / hockey / baseball ... game day is the sport. The other 6 calendar days are business, politics, politicks, and politricks.
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 2 ай бұрын
@@Heist1000agreed
@CoryKnudsen701
@CoryKnudsen701 2 ай бұрын
Zak crying about transparency when he won’t disclose the terms of Lando’s new contract.
@kevingrenier1337
@kevingrenier1337 2 ай бұрын
They never mentioned her. She threw herself under the bus.
@blueguy12345
@blueguy12345 2 ай бұрын
Yes cause you know everything that happened more than her and her lawyers right ?
@renatatostada3318
@renatatostada3318 2 ай бұрын
Y'all, did you even watch the video? I mean forget that, this just happened a few months ago. Don't y'all remember how it went down? Others mentioned her publicly. No, she did not throw herself under the bus: public entities other than the FIA did. You wanna criticize her coming for the FIA? That would make perfect sense. But to say she threw herself under the bus doesn't even require mistrusting the Wolffs--this is simply not what happened
@florisbackx1744
@florisbackx1744 2 ай бұрын
F1 demanding 'transparency' is the most ironic thing ever. I bet Andretti would like a bit more of that as well from the teams. And the about the Wolf case, that is truly the most obvious conflit of intrest I've ever seen in the sport. It would be weird if that wouldn't be investigated. The fact that all teams denounced the investigation even before it started tells you how they really feel about transparency. It's a classic omerta where the teams when push comes to shove cover each other to not 'loose position' vs the FAI.
@GamezGuru1
@GamezGuru1 2 ай бұрын
Surely she should be sueing the media outlets that named her, not the FIA's nameless statement...
@g-low6365
@g-low6365 2 ай бұрын
she must have names and or proof of who, inside FIA leaked their names behind the nameless statement to the media.
@Sai_Saracen
@Sai_Saracen 2 ай бұрын
@@g-low6365 typical female drama
@ESPcrb
@ESPcrb 2 ай бұрын
​@@Sai_Saracenfemale... Drama... It's clearly happening to both parties...
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
@@g-low6365nameless means no names were mentioned. She herself outed herself in her social media post. And the press? They heard the teambosses talk in the paddock themselves… COS TOTO DID HAVE CONFIDENTIONAL F1 INFO THE OTHER TEAMBOSSES DIDNT HAVE at the Teamboss meeting in Vegas… all teambosses were there. Toto misspoke…. In the paddock the teambosses talked amongst themselves and press and FIA heard them talk. None of the teams made a formal complaint, it probably wasn’t the most important info ever, but IT DID HAPPEN. That’s why the statements said that “they didn’t make a formal mistake”…they didn’t state that it didn’t happen…..
@dlstanf2
@dlstanf2 2 ай бұрын
Transparency of what? Accountability to whom? These are just baseless buzz words. There's way too many people with a spoon trying to dip out of to small pot.
@menebe
@menebe 2 ай бұрын
Transparency of why the investigation started? Then why the investigation dropped just like that? We're talking about a case that even every f1 teams needs to release a joint-statement on their social. So it's just not a buzz word, this case could lead to a bad habit in the FIA.
@rotnbazturd7569
@rotnbazturd7569 2 ай бұрын
FIA and F1/Teams relationship has always been toxic you just didn't hear about it. This isn't shit compared to the 60's thru the 80's.
@mustangecoboosthpp3869
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 2 ай бұрын
What are the Wolff's and Mercedes afraid of? Maybe because when changes were made in the past Mercedes was ready to go the minute the changes were published and the other teams had to develop changes after they got the actual change in writing? The Wolff's and Mercedes do not want anyone investigating this because it could end up opening up some very interesting issues. Time for the FIA to give little Suzy Q the boot due to the massive conflict of interest.
@norknight9406
@norknight9406 2 ай бұрын
Massive conflict of interest according to 1 boulevard newspaper?
@greatscot04
@greatscot04 2 ай бұрын
If they didn't want anyone to investigate, they wouldn't have lodged a complaint. They are ASKING for an investigation.
@HootMaRoot
@HootMaRoot 2 ай бұрын
Most groups like fia and f1/liberty media, have rules in place not to employ people that are financially or emotionally involved with the other members of the opposite group they are in charge of
@oddjobkia
@oddjobkia 2 ай бұрын
So you go investigated, the investigation was dropped as no wrong doing was found......... The true classy response would have to said. " I trusted in the systems of the independent FIA legal investigation to prove my innocence ' It is now in the best interest of the sport for me to put this behind me and continue working to make F1 and motor sport the best it can be. .... But no she decided to allow her " you hurt my feelings" attitude win
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
A SWAT team broke into a woman's house in my city. It was the wrong address. The police investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing. A jury awarded her about $4 million. If only she'd just accepted the word of those investigating themselves.
@oddjobkia
@oddjobkia 2 ай бұрын
@@F1jones What exactly did they do to Suzi Wolf... don't forget they didn't even name her... Also I wouldn't use the Americanas the epitome of a legal system
@menebe
@menebe 2 ай бұрын
​@@oddjobkiabro... they started the investigation based on a random newspaper outlet. Then after every f1 teams releasing a joint statement. The FIA dropped the investigation just like that🤷‍♂️
@blueguy12345
@blueguy12345 2 ай бұрын
Police investigating th epolice found that the police did nothing wrong. Pfff
@dailydrivenmuscle.
@dailydrivenmuscle. 2 ай бұрын
Some how "The Race" will blame Redbull for everones issues.
@mvh996
@mvh996 2 ай бұрын
ya !! im waiting for that video.
@mynameisjeff9124
@mynameisjeff9124 2 ай бұрын
Just give Ocon his 5 second penalty and move on
@bertram-raven
@bertram-raven 2 ай бұрын
Complaints about Suzie Wolff are not exactly a surprise.
@andreipop1
@andreipop1 2 ай бұрын
Fully agree with transpracy, so Toto should reveal who is feading him info the last couple of years. Since he was on top of every new development.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@mustangecoboosthpp3869
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 2 ай бұрын
Hint the person is a blond.
@JS-ct1uo
@JS-ct1uo 2 ай бұрын
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 She wasn't even with FOM at that time.
@sahilthomasbara
@sahilthomasbara 2 ай бұрын
To be honest, this is rich people beef. I could care less about it until it starts affecting on track racing.
@cornishcat11
@cornishcat11 2 ай бұрын
if there is ever any on track racing let me know.
@Adreno23421
@Adreno23421 2 ай бұрын
100% yes
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
Newsflash: the racing on the track only affects rich people too.
@TheJonesdude
@TheJonesdude 2 ай бұрын
You could care less? So you do care?
@boahneelassmal
@boahneelassmal 2 ай бұрын
If they are so worried about info from FOM being passed to any team..... maybe don't hire a married couple
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 2 ай бұрын
And yet, they already have not one but two former team principals, had an president who was also a team principal and somehow allow Flavio Bratore to STILL roam the paddock. Not believing anything they say at this point.
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 2 ай бұрын
I know! It's utterly insane to me that they even allow this in the first place!
@CK-ne9um
@CK-ne9um 2 ай бұрын
Anyone else sick of more drama off the track than on?
@ASkippingRock
@ASkippingRock 2 ай бұрын
I just want to see more teams and drivers on the grid.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 2 ай бұрын
The funny thing was, even before the media got involved and said anything, pretty much EVERYBODY guessed it was the Wolff's involved.
@Dylang01
@Dylang01 2 ай бұрын
People calling for transparency seem to only think an investigation is transparent if it returns the result they wanted. That's not transparency.
@florianbuchi6585
@florianbuchi6585 2 ай бұрын
If anybody thinks that there was never any sensitive information shared (even if it was not on purpose) between a wife and her husband, is very naive. If there really are some pieces of information that should not be known by a certain party, maybe, just maybe don't put people that are in a very close relationship together in leading postions at opposite parties. Just saying.....
@lysandrourena1610
@lysandrourena1610 2 ай бұрын
honestly. i don't think anyone really cares about this besides the ones who are new to watching F1. there was no proof. so just move on. it's getting old at this point.
@ItsapaulGaming
@ItsapaulGaming 2 ай бұрын
The criminal complaint is a nothingburger. They didn't mention her. Dismissed w/ prejudice, or whatever France's equivolent is.
@simondepass4647
@simondepass4647 2 ай бұрын
🤣nothingburger
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@MMAli-rq8kd
@MMAli-rq8kd 2 ай бұрын
Liberty Media and FOM along with the teams are waging war on the FIA. Media outlets like The-Race are knowingly or unknowingly helping the monopoly of the same people who rejected the Andretti bid to keep everything to themselves.
@piuthemagicman
@piuthemagicman 2 ай бұрын
A true McNothing if I've ever seen one
@beefsuprem0241
@beefsuprem0241 2 ай бұрын
Suzie's middle name is nepotism though, lets be honest. At least the off track drama gives us something to enjoy rather than on track snoozefest.
@mouseFPV
@mouseFPV 2 ай бұрын
it bugs me that the "cut" in The Race's logo isnt at 45 degrees. it doesn't line up with my mouse cursor while im watching videos and this causes me mental anguish 😅
@BritishRosie-es3zr
@BritishRosie-es3zr 2 ай бұрын
A sport where what happens away from the track is way more interesting than anything that happens on the track
@bigsmooshflopdong33
@bigsmooshflopdong33 2 ай бұрын
f1 would be better without the Wolffs. cant stand either one of them.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
utter nonsense.
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 2 ай бұрын
​@@Chris-jt4uxWell... no.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Well.... yes.
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Chris-jt4uxThere's hardly any single uplifting or positive thing I can think of about either of them, toxic people like them tarnish the reputation of f1.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 What a pathetic comment. Name me one thing they've done wrong.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 2 ай бұрын
These calls for so called "Transparency" are just hollow, hysterical and hypocritical buzzwords from people who wouldn't say a word if it was them.
@detectivesquirrel2621
@detectivesquirrel2621 2 ай бұрын
Its seriously dodgy and surely a Conflict of Interest when a F1 Team Principal is married to someone is in F1 Management. For Mrs Wolff to start legal action is riddiculous. The French courts should throw it out as it is a situation that does need investigating. But they are French... So no idea what they will do
@saber5821
@saber5821 2 ай бұрын
Just saying F1 is the only motorsports I am aware of that has drama outside of the sport with the FIA almost as if the people at the top of F1 are the problem not the regulator
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 2 ай бұрын
You mean Brown managed to talk about something other than Red Bull/Racing Bulls relationship?
@mustangecoboosthpp3869
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 2 ай бұрын
Opps, sounds like this put an end or made it harder for Suzy Wolff to feed her husband Toto Wolff privileged information allowing a performance advantage for Mercedes. Anyone who thinks Suzy was not slipping Toto information I have a bridge you can buy. Suzy is a true Wolff in the hen house situation.
@MattM-oe6qs
@MattM-oe6qs 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that Australian double DNF is truly indicative of insider info. 😂
@Ticklestein
@Ticklestein 2 ай бұрын
You see, I’m all for more transparency and openness, but I’m just scared all it’ll lead to is you guys taking stuff just enough out of context to make clickbait videos and articles.
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
Valid information typically causes the opposite to happen; currently there are events that we know occurred of without context, so we get clickbait videos and articles.
@MMAli-rq8kd
@MMAli-rq8kd 2 ай бұрын
Good point. The-Race always manages to stand with monopoly and the establishment (Liberty Media and FOM with the F1 teams) trying to control the regulating body or break away from it to start another American-style franchise.
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 2 ай бұрын
You mean like so many of these other clickbaity ass KZbin channels already do (Insert overused "Its over!!" thumbnail with terrible photoshop for maximum clicks) on a daily basis?
@jamesdrummond7684
@jamesdrummond7684 2 ай бұрын
the race isn't a particularly salacious channel, you're barking up the wrong tree.
@mikespearwood3914
@mikespearwood3914 2 ай бұрын
@@RACECAR You forget words in CAPSLOCK!
@aps1s
@aps1s 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, i dont get where susie want to sue FIA. The FIA statement never mentiones her or toto, that was all from media and team statements. The whole clame comes from the media in itself, so at most she should be suing the media that reported (made up?) this in the first place. What this really looks like is arrogance on susies part: "How dare you question my integrity and suggest me and toto ar having pillow talk on F1 insider topics. this is so misogynistic. I should never be questioned or investigated. I am better than you."
@ebutuoyYT
@ebutuoyYT 2 ай бұрын
To think a financial predator like Bernie Ecclestone and a man of dubious moral character like Max Mosley managed to run the F1 / FIA show with such composure, of course, not necessarily to the complete benefit of us fans or F1 teams, but still better than today’s incompetent clowns.
@christoduplessis8177
@christoduplessis8177 2 ай бұрын
I am sure no information was shared, but come on, this isn't normal, the husband is a shareholder in one of the biggest teams and she is involved in the management of the sport. It just doesn't stick for me. But hey, I know nothing.
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu 2 ай бұрын
Got to say I have not actually watched a single full race of F1 this season, turned off Bahrain, didn't bother with Saudi and slept through the Aus GP, but I am watching more and more videos about F1 on KZbin. Keep up the good work guys! The Fia are corrupt, and when you allow corrupt people to get away with one thing, they don't get better they get worse.
@NicotineRosberg
@NicotineRosberg 2 ай бұрын
A lot of bs happens in this sport. The recent being the penalty given to Alonso by Herbert who is compromised. Remember this a sport where sabotage & much more has happened in the past
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Herbert, the Merc fanboy gives ofc Alonso penalty on an action on Merc…
@Th3Sloan
@Th3Sloan 2 ай бұрын
Liberty media, the FIA and some team principals don't have F1's best interest at heart. Susie Wolff should have never been appointed as managing director of F1A on conflict of interest alone and anyone who thinks information isn't being shared between the Wolffs is unbelievably naive or willfully ignorant.
@lysandrourena1610
@lysandrourena1610 2 ай бұрын
do you have the proof?
@alias19
@alias19 2 ай бұрын
Since it was media accounts that publicly ID’d the Wolff’s and not the FIA, why isn’t she alleging a crime against/suing the media? While it’s ‘illegal’, her choice of pursuing criminal action instead of a civil complaint, a unique option in France, is interesting. Her remedies* are limited: “Public defamation is punishable by a fine of €12,000 .”** Well-timed, her complaint just falls within the 3-month period allowed for appeals. * I’m not a lawyer/avocat, or even French ** from “The official website of the French administration”
@Novacification
@Novacification 2 ай бұрын
F1 racing in Middle Eastern countries despite the myriad social issues and human rights violations is a much worse look for the "watching world" than these minor controversies.
@chrismuz
@chrismuz 2 ай бұрын
Yes, and how about some transparency into many of the F1 sponsors, like Aramco, crypto currency or online betting companies, to name just a few?!
@sam-nariman6236
@sam-nariman6236 2 ай бұрын
​@@chrismuz and let me guess, without middle Easterns or Americans, Europeans will pay for such an expensive competition with their 100€ tickets. How about come down of your moral high grounds and try not to ahove your value systems up their arse, they are doing fine.
@BilTheGalacticHero
@BilTheGalacticHero 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to see this case go anywhere. The FIA didn't publicly name Suzie Wolff and even if they had I can't see that making a difference. Really odd.
@Soebe
@Soebe 2 ай бұрын
I think zak brown mixes something up if he says its 2024 and not 1984 means total transparency
@colebogaard5692
@colebogaard5692 2 ай бұрын
+1 to the editor for the spiderman meme lol
@1Three8Fiver
@1Three8Fiver 2 ай бұрын
People keep mentioning that these "controversies" paint F1 in a bad light? You're kidding right? You know why people tune in to Drive to Survive and watch soap operas and dramas? This just adds to the entertainment. F1 has always been about the rich and powerful manoeuvring themselves and jockeying for position and power. You played into the games by harassing Horner and were useful pawns in the grand scheme. The people who put all this out there and "leak" info to the press/media do so because they know they can USE you and your desire for personal/company prestige. The problem with too much of the F1 commentariat is that they only know how to play the Parrot. They have no in house investigative teams to actually break anything new or to step outside of the internal game. Watching the team boss press conferences recently proves this for anyone who doesn't know already. Just point out any journo who will actually ask a left field probing question, there aren't any because they fear the loss of "privileged" access. I mean when Wolff and Brown kept calling for transparency, who actually bothered to ask either, how does their internal process for such matters differ from Red Bulls and what examples do they have to demonstrate it? Hmm, nobody.
@brightenupcc
@brightenupcc 2 ай бұрын
So same as Ecclestone/Mosley era then?
@pontus1293
@pontus1293 2 ай бұрын
Another video from you when everything is a controversy. New favorite word for this channel since 2021.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 2 ай бұрын
What's Wollf's issue? FIA heard from thr media that there might be an issue. It announced that it would look into it. The investigation revealed no issue, and that was announced. Sounds pretty transparent from the FIA. Should it have kept quiet, or not conducted any investigation? No! There must be more to this story became my impression from this video is that the FIA did a good job with its actions and communication.
@pavarottiaardvark3431
@pavarottiaardvark3431 2 ай бұрын
It's entirely possible that someone from another team went "We've got a married couple in charge of two separate things. That'll have to be handled properly" and then incompetent/manipulative people in management went mad with the suggestion
@vicTTRS
@vicTTRS 2 ай бұрын
The trouble was to put Stefano Domenecali at the front, the guy made a terrible job at Ferrari, what were they expecting to do with a even bigger challenge that is manage f1
@spudman2000
@spudman2000 2 ай бұрын
The only toxic thing is corporate types like Toto constantly pulling boardroom politics into the sport. Shut up and fix your car mate.
@Mr16bit
@Mr16bit 2 ай бұрын
Good. People need to be held to account.
@rileyfair5
@rileyfair5 2 ай бұрын
Actually sounds like the wolffs have to much power. The fact she and toto think they are immuned shows there's something going on the FIA didn't find
@ElGuatequero
@ElGuatequero 2 ай бұрын
Its funny how the same people reacted just the opposite in Horners case. Without any proof they throw Horner under the bus while maintaining that Susy Wolf is not guilty. I hope Horner start to to sue every one who difamated him too.
@blueguy12345
@blueguy12345 2 ай бұрын
Since he's not, it could be telling. Maybe Suzy Wolf can actaully defend her case but Hrner can't. Just sayin'
@filipecardozo
@filipecardozo 2 ай бұрын
@@blueguy12345 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad there are at least sensible people like you still using the internet. It's never about using logic to establish a reasonable conclusion, but rather who you perceive to be the victim in the case even though 99% of the people making a judgement is lacking in basic common sense.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
Yup
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
@@blueguy12345Horner is cleared by an external investigation.
@shinglie
@shinglie 2 ай бұрын
Should have let michael schumacher make that new racing brand back in the day. Bring back v10 and refuelling
@blueguy12345
@blueguy12345 2 ай бұрын
Yes cause there was nothing shady happening in the past under Bernie. And V10s were unreliable pieces of shit. Sure they sounded good but the show wasn't better for it besides that...
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 2 ай бұрын
It's call "vintage racing".
@foxbat8895
@foxbat8895 2 ай бұрын
And bring back the cigarette advertisers. There was no need for cost caps and shared technology when they were pumping millions into the sport.
@mrsoisauce9017
@mrsoisauce9017 2 ай бұрын
1. the turbo hybrid V6 is more relevant to modern vehicle technology, as it is more efficient - something that modern manufacturers highly value. Bringing back the V10, especially without any hybrid assistance, would introduce a lot less efficiency, which would drive away potential manufacturers almost overnight, and without manufacturers willing to produce engines, there can be no F1. So unless you want the sport to die, get used to it 2. Do you know why refueling was banned? I'll give you a hint: Jos Verstappen, 1994; Kimi Raikkonen, 2009
@F1jones
@F1jones 2 ай бұрын
Refueling produced the worst era of on track racing in F1's history, and no one wants to make V10s, all of which is irrelevant to this topic and would make no difference in how these events were handled. Tired of this ignorance.
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 2 ай бұрын
At this point you guys are just milking this stuff. Everyone moved to the events of the Aus GP and you get back to this....
@DasE30Cuz
@DasE30Cuz 2 ай бұрын
I don't know Zak, it sure feels like 1984.
@CreedM8
@CreedM8 2 ай бұрын
The racing certainly doesn’t 😴
@TheEclectic
@TheEclectic 2 ай бұрын
It makes no sense that they didn't have a 3rd party investigate Ben Sulyem.
@jaegerman66
@jaegerman66 2 ай бұрын
When the integrity of the sport and the FIA is constantly under scrutiny these days, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they would publicize what should be a routine review into an 'obvious potential conflict of interest' even just for the sake of reassuring onlookers that they do take any threats to the integrity seriously
@robmortimer4150
@robmortimer4150 2 ай бұрын
Spot on.
@user-kb8gh5jv9t
@user-kb8gh5jv9t 2 ай бұрын
F1 is turning into a sad state of affairs…🤦‍♀️
@cahesar
@cahesar 2 ай бұрын
Still don't know what confidential information has been passed
@supernpstr
@supernpstr 2 ай бұрын
What amuses me is that formula1 teams want transparency from the FIA but are they themselves transparent enough? Are they themselves fair enough? They won't allow new teams and increase "fairness" between each other. Constantly protesting each other's successes. To me it just seems that each of the parties, FIA, liberty media and formula teams are just in it and look after their own interests.
@segamaxx2258
@segamaxx2258 2 ай бұрын
This is just to build up drama for a new Netflix F1 drama show
@nunyabidness6820
@nunyabidness6820 2 ай бұрын
F1 should create their own federation at this point. Fostering innovation and competition.
@Adreno23421
@Adreno23421 2 ай бұрын
Completely yes. FiA does not have amazing abilities to organize F1. Let FOM organize F1 alone.
@jessez8503
@jessez8503 2 ай бұрын
Technically, the FIA owns F1, and Liberty Media is just leasing the commercial rights from the FIA for a period. There are limits to what Liberty Media can do. The FIA clearly doesn't like what Liberty Media is doing with its most valuable property that it was forced to lease out by the courts. The FIA wants more teams, but Liberty Media does not seem to want that. Liberty Media wants more races, but the FIA doesn't seem to want that either.
@mrsoisauce9017
@mrsoisauce9017 2 ай бұрын
Bruh, we're talking about the same ppl complaining about F1 rejecting Andretti when the FIA gave their golden stamp of approval. Both have glaring issues which both need to be sorted out. If F1 governs itself, it's going to go full elitist and small teams like Haas and Williams will be officially dead, replaced exclusively by manufacturers who only care about lining their pockets
@Adreno23421
@Adreno23421 2 ай бұрын
I would love for each team to have 3 (or even 4) drivers, and the top two in free practices get the seat for qualifying and race.
@gamefan56
@gamefan56 2 ай бұрын
@@Adreno23421 Sounds like a great way to drive up cost and kill off the smaller teams for no obvious gain other than creating gimmick.
@halflanding1900
@halflanding1900 2 ай бұрын
Toto is a billionaire and the mega-rich will sue anything they don’t like. Power games. And on the topic of F1-FIA relationships what happened to the alleged RBR harassment victim calling for the FIA to conduct an investigation on Horner?? Also pls give us a written article about this, I don’t see it at your website. I much prefer a text article I can skim through than having to watch a 10-minute vid.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 2 ай бұрын
FIA has zero part in that or say in that. Her only aim is to keep it in the public eye… Her false claims have no ground. She is clutching at straws. Its a planned slander campaign, paid by a very wealthy person…cos Fiona now hired a spin doctor… for 10/20k each month on her salary of 65k a year… SOMEONE IS FINANCING THIS SLANDER CAMPAIGN…. it’s all planned. FOLLOW THE MONEY!
@didothecat9941
@didothecat9941 2 ай бұрын
This is a story as old as time. Management vs assets. Both think the he business does not exist without them. See the Indy/cart split for what happens when egos get a little too big.
@genotronex8663
@genotronex8663 2 ай бұрын
To be honest this matter doesn’t bother me, what bother me the Liberty media, FIA should put more emphasis on increasing the competition and put better rules, not to create drama outside the race to compensate for lack of competition. This circus should come to end
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 2 ай бұрын
I was not expecting the Spiderman meme to show up in a video from the race, but here we are.
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 2 ай бұрын
Just when I thought that the Wolffs wouldn't be able to get any more unbearable 😂
@MattM-oe6qs
@MattM-oe6qs 2 ай бұрын
What are/were the tangible damages???
@greatscot04
@greatscot04 2 ай бұрын
That's the question I have. At least here in the US, for defamation to succeed, you have a show a damage to reputation. I'm not sure they can prove that.
@Rekcoj
@Rekcoj 2 ай бұрын
let's be real here, every single major sports regulator or sporting league has/had the reputation of being corrupt. FIFA and its regional counterparts, IOC and its regional counterparts, IAAF, FiA, NFL, NASCAR. Golf, Tennis, and there are dozens more.
@yammt3148
@yammt3148 2 ай бұрын
WEC is good though!
@markwebb8151
@markwebb8151 2 ай бұрын
All about money and power
@Dylan-180
@Dylan-180 2 ай бұрын
Im sick of hearing about Karen Wolff
@menebe
@menebe 2 ай бұрын
what she wants is simple "transparency". But even that the FIA ​​couldn't give, shame...
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
yawn
@poniatowski3547
@poniatowski3547 2 ай бұрын
yeah yeah pure BS lawsuit. They weren't named. This is a fishing expedition. Its all about FOM Argy bargy with FIA. Just because the Wolffs lodged a complaint doesn't mean they have jack shit. People make spurious complaints every day of the week. The reality is they outed themselves. The FIA / Teams and FOM are more interested in politics than racing, because the Teams and FOM want total control to ensure more cash.
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
Yawn.
@Eeraz
@Eeraz 2 ай бұрын
F1 being transparent with its Investigation after Investigation is killing the sport. It used to be a side factor that was named only briefly apart from the big Scandals I.e. Crashgate, Spygate and otherwise really only found in Magazines that you could decide weren’t worth the Drama. I grew up with it but it’s getting harder and harder to stay invested in it when it feels like little children arguing.
@nikkipdx4109
@nikkipdx4109 2 ай бұрын
This seems so obvious and awful, FIA needs to stop this it's hurting the sport
@akwardleon6038
@akwardleon6038 2 ай бұрын
Why is the most obvious nepotism hire making such a scene, she should be happy she got a job that she didn't deserve at all!
@Chris-jt4ux
@Chris-jt4ux 2 ай бұрын
what a pathetic comment
@Stryker_-qd4nq
@Stryker_-qd4nq 2 ай бұрын
Is there some kind of bro code that stops rhe race from just throwing the f1 buissness magazine under the bus It was their unsubstantiated claim that lead to this
@tuttutteddy8889
@tuttutteddy8889 2 ай бұрын
The FIA get a lot of hate (some deserved) but the fia support Andretti’s application. They aren’t all bad
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