WHY MORTARION IS THE GREATEST PRIMARCH!

[@WhiteRhino3420]

Morty fell to betrayal out of unresolved anger towards dad, but he fell to Chaos only to save his legion. He didn’t do so out of desire for power, but because when the pain was too much for him, he knew his sons were dying without death. He is a sad case

[@Allhailthesith]

Facts

[@Subject_Keter]

Not if your whole personality is hating pyskers and literally PRIDE yourself on being able to withstand it all.

[@jamescarter8693]

Gffd 2:52 2:52 , 😅7c 2:52 ​@@Allhailthesithwis 5fr

[@headlibrarian1996]

I would say he fell to Chaos long before then. Who but someone already corrupted by Chaos (even if he wouldn’t admit it to himself) sacrifices his bodyguards and legion geneseed in a secret ritual to summon a daemon?

[@browniechann88blackie55]

The emperor offered him the idea of redemption what this will do to his mindset going forth would be interesting to see

[@mikestafford6900]

It was really sad when the villagers were celebrating their first victory on Barbarus and he had to ask Typhon what the fuck they were doing because he had no concept of joy

[@seymourfields3613]

I like how this is an "everybody wins" series. They're all the greatest.

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

Mortarion is like Perturabo - embodying something he thinks he hates. Perturabo thinks he's a sensitive artist, but he yearns for the trenches. Mortarion thinks he hates the Warp, but was more about superstition and ritual than MAGNUS. It may have been bad circumstances that broke them, but they were broken.

[@MacroLore]

If Big E paid for a SINGLE therapy session Morty would have stayed loyalist

[@headlibrarian1996]

@@MacroLore Probably true for all the traitors, except perhaps Angron. He was always going to rebel, even if it wasn’t for Chaos.

[@MacroLore]

@@headlibrarian1996 There was no fixing Curze, Angron, Fulgrim, and maybe Lorgar.

[@SpaceWitch144]

He would not listen to anybody.

[@Subject_Keter]

Morty is the most headstrong of them all, he would plague that doctor.

[@jonathanross9407]

Loragr definitely. Instead of burning down his city and humiliating him, I don’t know fucking talk to him, have him operate with the ultramarines in the lead only. Fucking anything but the absolute lunacy big E did

[@lunardeathblade2570]

Big fan of this series.

[@BerathorPainting]

Same here!

[@yellowdancer7055]

Imo Morty's Primarch Novel was the best of the bunch. Gave you much added depth to the character.

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

*Jaghatai Khan HATES this...*

[@Toto-95]

This guy is so similar to Sanguinius in his fall. Angel boy was about to sacrifice himself too but got interupted by his medic child Meros

[@Thyinternet]

I love Immortan Joe

[@Subject_Keter]

Erda: I had to protect my kids from Big E ambition! Morty: P S Y K E R S! Also i am just picturing that one south park clip where Eric Cartman injects himself with Apple Juicr to get stinky fart... 😂

[@jimmymackelroy1714]

Lol what ?

[@UncleMikeDrop]

I do wonder what a successfully cloned Mortarion would be like.

[@chucklytell]

"Do as I say, not as I do" - Morty probably

[@captainpuffinpuffinson4769]

morty was either the second or third most resilient primarch, not in the top five strategists or tacticians, was not a psyker his resentment for being saved by big E was deep but his fall was the result of him being a hypocrite about the warp, he was the most anti psyker ( a lot more the Russ, who I don't think is that anti psyker as some think), but he had no qualms about killing his own honor guard in their own gene seed vault in order to summon a demonic half breed so no he is not the greatest, by far not

[@arcangel1172]

Truely the greatest. Really cares for his sons and respect like no other primarch. If you have read pale king and lords of silence you know.

[@logangodofcandy]

So brave. Sacrifice the entire imperium and make your sons slaves, to stop them, and only them from feeling pain. Fucking weak

[@vontheunknown7982]

There's a rumor going around, that Morty is going to get redeemed, but what do you guys think?

[@meisterhyperion207]

That's not a rumor. That's a thing the emperor claimed after deus ex machina him away to save Gulliman. And I think that that would be bad for all death guard players and also really dumb. Why would mortarion ever join an Emperor he hates?

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

There is zero chance. One throwaway line in one novel isn't... anything.

[@Subject_Keter]

​@@meisterhyperion207 >Be Morty > Hate the Warp as his main character trait > Joins the Warp side > Big E like glares at him and he instantly wrong and wants out Morty is a wanker who cant decide what he wants and Big E would take a knight off the table and bunch of Nurgle Power.

[@saculnezretep293]

Morty would have to stop being stubborn and swallow his pride.... not going to happen without the best possible writing in play.

[@treymartinez7398]

So I'm predicting a redemption arch for morty. Here is my reason why cause it can be expanded upon. So nurgle has that aldari god of healing and life imprisoned as a undying test subject that always has a factory reset which can cure all corruption and papa nurgle isn't happy with morty and that Uncleanone for having some his garden burn during that dark imperium saga and nurgle personally blames the two I can see morty freeing the aldari to cure himself or his legion but the aldari god of healing presents him with a choice him or his legion can be saved... and he chooses the emporer to be saved and the corpse king and the holy emporer himself is back in the grimdark

[@warwolf88]

if the emperor had only given mortarion the means to survive the poisonous atmosphere then mortarion never would have turned traitor😊

[@joshuasmith5472]

He was tricked. Typhus and morty were in the warp going somewhere and the ship got stuck in the warp if I recall. It was a plan by typhus to change morty to follow nurgle. One reason why they don't really like each other. The book this is in is called (the buried dagger.)

[@icklemoo]

I love mortarion prob my top 2 primarchs I think we have to look at the interaction from the emperor talking to Morty in god blight where he tells him that he will free him / return eventually but not yet …. Either this is just a carrot gesture for giving GW future choices in lore or it is planned. I think as well mortarion also realised the emperor is also a being of the warp in a fashion so would never be able to truly trust him / it . add in the way he was denied help with handling the overlord and in essence trolled .perhaps it was planned from the big e as he did like think millennia ahead . It’s kind of ironic now mortarion is the one thing he despises supposedly much like pertursbo if it becomes cannon he is also a daemon primarch now as well Wish they would flesh out mortarion relations with his brothers though especially in current setting with Magnus and angron

[@thewayfarer8849]

The Pale King makes me think how we NEED that Horus: The Luna Wolf novella. Give it to Wraight or ADB, no Warmaster, just who HE is and we'll be rethinking this list (love the series)

[@chuck2703]

Grabs 🍿. This should be good.

[@Thyinternet]

This is brilliant

[@wulfrik86b70]

Found guy we dark hero one night on sky as a kid Needless to say…it’s been my favourite anime and franchise since 🤘

[@cesarerinaldi6750]

⚪🟢 Carcharodons for Nurgle, with Rotigus Rainfather? There was once a Keeper of Secrets who annihilated an Eldar Craftworld by possessing a vulnerable Avatar of Khaine. How devastating would it be if he gets possessed by a Great Unclean One? A serious critique of Nurgle's forces: large, massive, plagued/poisonous bodies but more harder and less rotten. Is this logical enough? Loyalist Mortarion, who with discipline and determination used his psychic power to destroy the Necromancers and liberate his world, then commanding the harsh Librarians of his tough Death Guard. Traitor Typhon, who used his poisonous psychic power to corrupt his companions and escape in his plagued ship, vowing vengeance in Nurgle's name against the uncorrupted Pale King of Barbarus. Well? Remove their cannibalism, leave them with bones/bone ash, and Mortifactors become great (even as the replacement for the XIV Legion). Let's imagine that Lorgar, Angron and Horus are Loyalists (according to my version), could Alpharius and Omegon be the new Daemons Primarchs of Nurgle? (Example the seven-headed Plague Hydras, who live in poisonous Swamp Planets, Jungle Planets and Ocean Planets, corrupted by Rotigus Rainfather for the God of Death, the monster's immortality as a glorious symbol of the eternal Cycle of Rebirth)

[@cesarerinaldi6750]

The Scythes of the Emperor, the Mortifactors and the Doom Eagles. Which of the three is worthy of being the new XIV Legion? One thing that makes me think of the Scythes of the Emperor as the new XIV Legion are the Nurgle Tyranids, Genestealers and Hexwraiths (because of their symbol). Do you agree?

[@MarkStorey-dc4tm]

Surprisingly loyalist way to praise a chaos primarch.😄

[@WarriorKidd06]

Like the series but nothing about what you just described of the Pale King would have me being able to consider him the greatest of the Primarchs.

[@zawwin1846]

He has a pit stench only Nurgle can tolerate on good days.

[@Allhailthesith]

I don't care for morty but his case is tragic

[@metallixro]

Well obviously some clearly can be omitted from this list, Mortarion included. Best looking Primarch mini thou! Anyway let's just jump to the real "greatest Primarch": Lorgar! :)))

[@davidhannant451]

Love to hear mortey an the lion on conguest an how they got along

[@silent_stalker3687]

Oh if you do this with chaplin “Why Typhon is the greatest Chaplin” Even Erberus has done more for his legion and Primarch than Typhon has.

[@40knpride]

Mortarion hated everything lol

[@andrewwelham8633]

Didn't Lion el Johnson always know the truth about chaos?

[@semicollin4517]

Great series

[@captainviktorgrim261]

Pah Magnus did nothing. Mortorian became the monster he always feared. Mortarion saved his sons from death. Mortarion's fall like Angron's was not his doing but those closest to him. Mortarion is one of the three traitor primarch I respect out of the 9 only Conrad and Purturobo are worthy of my respect.

[@icarus_falling]

Heres a question. Have any of the primarchs ever had offspring? I know natural conception isnt gonna work but there are other ways... they must have tried?

[@memetarion6191]

People who claim Mortarion is a Hypocrite ate those eho cherry pick parts of his lore, get theur information from Loyalist fans, or by Night Lords' fans who font want the fandom looking at Conrad Curze

[@Archon3960]

The greatest hypocrite of the Primarchs, and yet he never got to choose for himself. Except when he trusted Typhon and Horus. x)

[@TheOtherSteel]

No.

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

One day he will return to the loyalists side.

[@chucklytell]

he totally could in a way that kept some of the Death Guard/plague marines faction intact too (for GWs precious bottom line lol), half of them follow Typhus already

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

@@chucklytell That would be grand.

[@thedude5449]

Mortarion is the most homosexual primarch.

[@alwalker3479]

Mortarion is the ultimate hypocrite. Doesn’t like psykers, uses psychic powers. Doesn’t like the Warp, signs up when faced with death. He would’ve been the greatest if he had just taken death over eternal servitude to Nurgle

[@Subject_Keter]

I think it would of been interesting to see a even more haggard Morty fighting off Nurgle attempts to claim him and where he goes, a plague bloom follows since he would have so many little plague minions trying to get him to give him

[@memetarion6191]

Mortarion represent Irony not Hypocrisy. He would be a Hypocrite if he went from Kill ass Psykers to "Psykers are the bed thing ever". Plus he didn't choose to be a Psyker, he was always one and he never knew it for the longest time. And unlike every other Primarch, he was the only one who could withstand the plagues brought upon him, if it were any other Primarch they would've just died. The biggest Hypocrite in 40k In Conrad Curz of the Night Lords. Could see the terrible things of the future, but instead of doing anything about the terrible things he just let it happen because it would make him look like a Hypocrite on him choosing to do the most fucked up things imaginable. And don't pull Guiliman for resisting Nurgle, Plot is always on his side, so of course he could say fuck you to Nurgle

[@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo]

He’s definitely the smelliest

[@ГригорийГ-ч4н]

Mortarion smells.

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

Bro he needs to compare him to Angron ☠️ (I am not being serious)

[@BunkerAnon]

On the downside, he's smelly.

[@Subject_Keter]

Also hypocrit, like you cant state "mad factz" and sucks plague. 😂

[@buuhuuimklo3810]

Wolf Lord Rho, consider yourself homosexually gay hugged by me.

[@zzon]

Someone needs to check on Rho, he's clearly been doing too much of the drugs

[@AbstractDigitalDNB]

If Victor Meldrew was a Primarch his name would be Mortarion 😂lol

[@Denso481]

Mortarion lol Yeah, no.

[@Subject_Keter]

Morty is the greatest cuz he is the patron saint of all those stinky MTG. DnD abd Yugioh players that physically need to be tased and drugged to take a shower. 😂

[@si1verg3cko]

You mean players of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker.

[@Subject_Keter]

​@@si1verg3cko Not sure you can stink in the Warp?

[@matjov]

Morty is one of the worst Primarchs. A hypocritical whiner.