Operation Rolling Thunder Sino-Soviet War! || Sea Power Gameplay - New Naval Simulation

[@Strelnikov403]

3:52 "I don't need jammers, this is just a SEAD mission..." Famous last words LOL.

[@Wolfpack345]

I would have brought them but performance sufferes too much with so many aircraft sadly

[@Object_730]

@@Wolfpack345the EA-6B is designed for SEAD it can jam or employ arms into the radar could have just sent then instead

[@dandafan]

Yea the EA6B is a must for sead it can honestly do almost all sead maybe you need some cleanup for close range stuff but 2 growlers are enough for almost everything

[@pnzrldr]

@@Wolfpack345 can you determine whether SP, in its current build, is throttled by CPU, GPU or RAM?

[@tjh8402]

@@Wolfpack345Why not use EA6Bs with Shrikes instead of the F4s? they can Jam and shoot.

[@mr_jiblets]

The soviet spy ship identifying itself was very funny. "Yeah we're here, what are you gonna do about it?"

[@revzite5581]

If they're in international waters, and not a belligerent force, identifying when asked, not acting aggressively, and maintaining a specific distance, I would assume they're allowed to remain where they are. I actually thought it was really cool that they would identify.

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

Given that the US isn’t a direct combatant in the conflict between the Soviets and the Chinese the Soviet ship would have to identify unless it wanted to be sunk by the carrier force. During Operation Preying Mantis a Soviet destroyer contacted the US surface fleet stating its intentions were to “take pictures for history”

[@nootypenguino]

That story is interesting

[@jeffreyestahl]

I think that crazy F4 was the one you ordered to 37k from the deck. Poor AI was probably thinking, "But you TOLD me to climb like a rocket..."

[@Strelnikov403]

Of all the channels covering Sea Power right now, this is BY FAR the coolest fucking scenario out there. Keep 'em coming!

[@squgieman]

feels like im watching an actual campaign with reasonable escalation

[@FinnishJager]

Just saw your and squgieman's comments and they're appreciated. I'm glad the viewers like them and that some find the alt-history somewhat plausible lol

[@FinnishJager]

@@squgieman I'm glad you're finding this alt-history plausible! lol

[@Constance_tinople]

@@FinnishJageryour mission building is phenomenal. I do have a question regarding placement of buildings as I can’t tell how to place some structures knowing they’ll be on good terrain and not hidden by trees

[@masterqui-gonjinn90]

Is this the first video in the series ?

[@rayhill1]

29:15 satellite interception in progress

[@louis-philippelacharite7201]

Hate it when it happens lol they always die to a long range sam when it happen ...

[@NotHunter672]

It does this to me also I just tell them to return to base and instantly bring the back

[@SueBobChicVid]

They're modeling the condensation clouds over the F4 wings! Jeez.

[@frankholub4673]

Now if only they could model decent plane AI

[@MrRem7600]

the detail on this game is incredible.

[@benrgrogan]

​@@frankholub4673 to be fair, A.I is much harder, and usually done by a separate person/team

[@sanra255]

@@frankholub4673 I was struggling with MIGCAPS in CMANO as well so its common fo AI in these sims to fail misarably.

[@deadeyedickification]

I can't ever get B52s to defend themselves against incoming missiles. I lost all 3 of mine in the Guam mission because they wouldn't launch chaff unless I did it manually.

[@3dwrecker_4660]

I will accept this as a Christmas gift, thanks for the great content Wolfpack!

[@Wolfpack345]

Merry Christmas!

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

The Phantom goes Buzz Lightyear style: To infinity, and beyond!

[@Darknight_84930]

War ship: Identify your self! Spy ship: oh hi we're just spying on ya guys :D War ship: Bruh.. 😆

[@HKPiax]

Holy moly, were SEAD operations this risky in real-life too? With a bait aircraft and the striker loitering a bit further off? I audibly gasped at 19:16 lol

[@Fighterpilot555]

Wild Weasel missions are not for the faint of heart.

[@camillovidani2586]

Aircraft in this game are not that realistic, but the unofficial motto of Wild Weasel squadrons was "you gotta be shitting me"...

[@christopherbrent5168]

>uses air search on Phantoms to trigger SAM radar >immediately responds with SEAD What in the Operation BOLO did I just witness???

[@mikemontgomery2654]

Technically, you weren’t doing “Wild Weasel” either. The navy had a different term for their version of SEAD: Cobra ball.

[@MM22966]

I thought it was Iron Hand? Cobra Ball is something else.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

@ Iron hand was the joint program between the USAF and USN. Wild Weasel aircraft were purpose built for and solely tasked with SEAD/DEAD. The US Navy never truly built an aircraft tasked specifically with SEAD/DEAD in mind. They instead relied on multi-role aircraft that could do more then just SEAD/DEAD.

[@MM22966]

@@mikemontgomery2654 What about the Prowler? While I realize it was more escort jammer than Weasel, it was there to suppress air defenses and carried anti-rad missiles.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

@@MM22966 you’ve just answered your own question. The Prowler was meant for electronic jamming. It’s primary mission is not to hunt for SAMs. Much of the time, the Prowler and even the Growler, is unarmed.

[@MM22966]

@@mikemontgomery2654 Fair enough.

[@morrit33]

I wonder, when Wolfpack is gaming without recording, does he narrate himself as well? I find these videos the best advert for Seapower. This game is amazing, over 300 hours logged so far and still enjoying it. The mod community have really outdone themselves in this game!

[@franklindorrell4755]

He is an amazing storyteller.

[@jbrou123]

What I wonder, as I never played these games, is how long are these missions, and how much is edited out. Sure, this vid i s36 minutes long, but how long was it for him from start to finish?

[@morrit33]

@@jbrou123 they can vary. The map is 1-1 on the earth, and the mission editor means you can place units in any part of the world. If you had enough time, you could create a mission lasting months or longer in theory. There is one that recreates The Red October where you are hunting in the entire Atlantic ocean for a single submarine. So, in answer to your question, a lot is shaved off. Even with time compression it can take a long time for missiles to reach the target area. It is an awesome game with tremendous potential for grand strategies. I'm working on a mission that takes place on opposite sides of the earth requiring simultaneous action.

[@RobW-l7n]

​​@@morrit33GOD DAMN

[@Raz0rking]

The soviet spy ship reminds me of the one soviet ship taking pictures of operation Praying Mantis. Could be a nudge to that one.

[@ralgith]

Love the episode, but a minor correction. You were performing a BARCAP, not a MiGCAP. The difference is that a MiGCAP went into the target area, whereas a BARCAP created a barrier between suspected enemy air assets and a friendly asset. In your case, between Vietnam and your carriers. A MiGCAP went in ahead of strike aircraft.

[@Wolfpack345]

Ah yeah my bad. Thanks!

[@joellegge460]

@@Wolfpack345 If you are looking for a challenging mission, you can try “Landing Operation Bulgaria” in the workshop.

[@denizozkan-z4f]

This Sino soviet stuff is cool. Would love to see more of it and what it turns into!

[@e-train765]

I hope you're just as happy as I was when the devs dropped Enterprise (CVN-65) and Long Beach. HELL of a Christmas gift from the team. ALL HAIL THE GLORIOUS CUBES

[@jameswilliams1085]

Was really looking forward to another video of Sea Power!!! Many thanks!! Happy Christmas!!

[@manisteerocks7092]

ohhhh man am i excited to see this!!...Merry Christmas to you bud!!

[@Bradygoat6390]

Great video as always Wolfpack. Please keep the Sea Power videos coming 🙏

[@NotHunter672]

I know I’m late but thank you for playing it😊 I wanted to see your gameplay on this mission

[@atramp8999]

30:00 "Look Ma, no hands!"

[@einweiesblattpapier2676]

This Scenario would make a cool DCS campaign when the vietnam map eventually drops xD

[@yoosta22]

Nice job as always Wolfy.

[@JClark2600]

At the start I think you forgot to order Black Knight 3 up to 20K.

[@pcarpy7]

When you said Angels six with the Phantom right around 14:03 and it kicked into full afterburner. The Phantom broke the sound barrier and the game showed it. Very Cool 😎 Just letting you know if you didn’t see it.

[@CaptainAvatar238]

arc light. What's that? ARC LIGHT, B-52 strike Couldn't have been done without those nice Wild Weasel radar strikes. Good job.

[@ZeCroiSSanT950]

When that Soviet spy ship decided to immediately comply XDD

[@huskergator9479]

As long as Mrs Wolfpack is not complaining about performance issues, you are golden. 😊

[@Ghost_Recon_Actual]

Good video. Thanks for sharing

[@redbision6707]

Good to see tailcode NE Thank You!!

[@thornefroemming7796]

Another great Wolfpack345 production.

[@samschalt]

Fantastic! As usual

[@honorless1719]

So in my Poli-Sci class in '03 brief vid of the Vietnam War was put on and when it showed BUFF's dropping ordinance for 15 seconds the girls were like "OMG" while we guys were like "Frig Yeah"

[@Robdog1-w1f]

BUFF is forever.

[@__MARKR__]

"Dad, dad! Look, I'm a rocket now!" - phantom F4 :)

[@darylb8773]

Thanks again Wolfpack

[@JoshWright396]

21:00 The "Search Radar" sensor in the info means it's picking up the search radar, not that you're picking it up on your own radar.

[@georgebourdage8897]

This was one of your best

[@AlexGreenleaf-d2c]

A couple videos ago the damage model was good when a ship was hit with missiles showing holes in the ship and missing bridges on the ships, what happened to the damage model ? 😭

[@RobW-l7n]

Wolfpack got bored of the premade missions, so he and his friends made their own

[@ChrisJohnson-gx8yo]

Great Work!

[@kfckillie1]

That was brilliant 👍

[@PATTHECATMCD]

Ah, the old Wild Weasels doing Iron Hand. Where El-War on paper became El-War with real weapons.

[@vassilyg8058]

this is my crack for lunch 🤣🤣

[@jbeckley6849]

Time to bring in the Buff!

[@Strathclydegamer]

Really enjoyed this 😁😁

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Excellent video, great game.

[@MichalProzac]

These missions are crazy...

[@dawyrm1]

I would have liked a more concentrated bomb release. It looks now as if they empty one rack at a time, causing the impacts to be very spread out a long a long line, meaning the majority of the bombs end up far away from the target and the ones landing not being concentrated enough to do real damage.

[@decrobyron]

30:00 Houston, we have lift off.

[@spartanalex9006]

I'd love to see more Carrier scenarios.

[@Rob_F8F]

Love Wolfpack for Sea Power, GS for DCS, and the Mighty Jingles for WoWarships!

[@dolley70]

The Airwing on Ranger looks a lot like the squadrons from CVW17.

[@Siltarius]

Ah... BUFFs in action XD

[@donniemontoya9300]

Its so cool seeing the map so full of diffetent contacts and platforms. Too bad it has such performance impacts. I know this game has massive potential.

[@redbision6707]

My ship 87/90 USS Ranger CV-61 with CVW-2 Wolf Pack VF-1 and Bounty Hunters VF-2

[@TheEnergizingbunny]

I have learned from this game that you NEVER, EVER do a SEAD mission without having EW aircraft at least airborne and on standby. Some of the time I did SEAD without them, I suffered heavy casualties from SAM sites.

[@robertsmith1768]

Ya know what’s really confusing? Watching this while also playing Sea Power.

[@norwegianguy9480]

Awesome!

[@stablegun314]

You can tell your units to engage with specific amounts of a certain weapon by going through the menu

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

Great mission.

[@umad42]

It's interesting that you say that the game struggles with lots of aircraft up, because I have had all of Enterprise's planes up while recording and still managed to stay close to 60 frames

[@Det_core]

Frames are fine but when you try to speed the game up it tends to chug

[@CharliMorganMusic]

Is this on the workshop

[@kacperq1987]

I sometimes forget how many bombs bombers droped before laser/gps accuracy package to achive a hit. Thats crazy amount of ordinandce to get what - 1, 2 hits?

[@DCrypt1]

Shrike had no INS, GPS or great emission homing capabilities so it seems to be over performing here. Great video as always.

[@kidatheking1837]

How do you make aircraft patrol like that is there a specific button that you press

[@buckduane1991]

Pretty sure the F-4s would’ve still had 4 Sparrows and 4 Sidewinders even when loaded out with a pair of Shrikes and a fuel tank if they were expecting to see MiGs? But I’m no expert… that’s just what my friend is saying, who was a USMC ordinance officer in Vietnam who was the ordinance crew’s boss. A few of his pilots in the war ended up being the real life stunt pilots seen in the movie “Top Gun”, and his scribbled signature “S.S.” can still be seen inside the air intake of a few F-4s at the boneyard in Arizona. But, it could be a Navy vs USMC thing? Or probably just balance in game play mechanics. More missiles make more drag anyway, and add about a ton more weight. (Plus, let’s face it, Devil Dog pilots are all a bit crazy anyway… and exactly who you want on your side in a “dogfight” since they send the enemy straight to Hell!) Had me sweating bullets, seeing those SAMs launch! Sadly, no gun on the F-4 for me to give those bullets to. But, fun fact, Wolfpack, a group of USMC pilots nearly went rogue trying to fly to Thailand to have an internal 20mm upgrade done to their F-4Js to make them look and operate like the USAF F-4E model, and again these were the pilots my friend was the ordinance officer for on ship. Under threat of not just court martial but of having their planes pushed into the drink after returning with the upgrades (thus making it all moot if they had), they quite begrudgingly decided not to go rogue. That’s how much the pilots wanted their F-4J to have a gun just like the F-4E had, and argued that since a few F-4Cs had been given the upgrade to have the same cannon as the E, they too should have them… but no, the politicians and newest incarnation of Japan’s greatest ally back in WWII (the US Bureau of Ordinance) “knew better”… so, no internal guns on the J model.

[@PATTHECATMCD]

Wild Weasels were optimized for anti-radar. Wing tip Sidewinders for AAM only. They had to stay low, under the radars, under the MiGs, which was not what most pilots could cope with. Just track to the suppress area, look for active radars, launch, bug out. I can find no mention of USMC being tasked with SEAD in MACV, it appears to have been purely a USAF programme. USMC did not have Starfighter 105s, which were the mainstay aircraft in the early development of the techniques. It is likely though that USMC assets were use for SEAD in later part, specifically F4-C to support Linebacker 1 and 2 Strategic bombing campaigns over North Vietnam.

[@n0bl3hunt3r]

Nice to get some Sea Power goodness

[@horrido666]

There is a really good wargame that covers this erra well, call Downtown, Air War over Hanoi, 1965-1972.

[@deaddarkie4154]

If you know how could you do a carrier battle(both USA and Russia fight for air superiority over Taiwan)

[@overkill1340]

Is it the number of units or is it specifically number of aircraft that cause the slowdowns? I'll have to stick to C:MO or Fleet Command until they can optimise the performance issues.

[@Zirlikus]

Is this the old or the new nose on the b52? Looks different or am i stupid?

[@danielklein1310]

E2Cs? maybe A or B What year is this campian?

[@Strathclydegamer]

Just rewatching this, now I’m a casual viewer with zero knowledge of military tactics or knowledge of ordnance, that said - the bombs. Are they really that ineffective in reality? The F4’s seemed to hit 1 target despite multiple dropped, and the main bombing raid, were those storage tanks specially reinforced or were the bombs just not powerful enough? Basically I thought there’d be more destruction, given the volume of explosives dropped. Can’t tell if that’s my expectation being wrong, or if it’s the game/performance.

[@morrit33]

This game is just amazing. Did you know that they are keeping the F10 menu in the final release??

[@nootypenguino]

Would you say this game is worth buying now or should I wait for it to be more polished?

[@Miles_Edgeworth.]

i wonder how you would take on a game like highfleet?

[@p35flash97]

Use the Vigilante! Such a cool aircraft.

[@arthurcrego8297]

A great mission.

[@ivetoldyouonce]

Hi density B-52s could each carry 108 500 lb bombs.

[@steweygrrr]

Grandpa BUFF making it rain~

[@josiahjorden1131]

I had an F4 bug like that yesterday…

[@gabrielleite02]

I really like the concept of this video, being an ally by circumstances of the chinese in this wild Sino-Soviet War. While the commies fight with one another, the US makes big precision strike missions with minimal casualties. I look forward to seeing more such things! I will look for this scenario to play!

[@phippsies001]

Why cant i find this mission in the workshop on his page

[@jonnyj5343]

Anyone know the name of this mission in the workshop? can't seem to find it under Finnish Jager's workshop items.

[@jasonverhagen5253]

Wild weaseling like your playing with Cap.😅

[@preserveourpbfs7128]

I like swearing Wolfpack

[@ralphjackson2518]

This is absolutely me being pendantic, but this mission isn't rplling thunder. Rolling thunder was precision bombing of specific targets in 65-66. These are arc light strikes.

[@raulhotwikar7576]

Hi, is it possible to save your current mission so you can leave and play it later from where you left? For some reason I cant use the save option am I doing something wrong?

[@tshirtradical]

Reporting for duty, sir !

[@danielross7983]

Would have sent a Prowler with the SEAD package.... Just for safety

[@yeetrpg]

F4, i want a ksp2, but good We have ksp in Vietnam

[@camillovidani2586]

Why are the Phantoms dropping unguided weapons straight and level from high up? That's basically WW2 area bombing, can't hit anything precisely...

[@MississippiKid96]

@Wolfpack345 Well? After all this time of watching your videos, I finally decided to fire up my wife’s laptop and try cold waters and buddy I’m here to tell you I stink

[@The-Caged-King]

What’s the mission link?

[@FinnishJager]

Wolf gets to play and show off missions before I post them to the workshop

[@The-Caged-King]

⁠@@pidi9823I’m not at my computer right now and wanted to know. Don’t gotta be a dick about it

[@jameslanning8405]

If it's possible in this sim, it would have been good to have a refueler on station for the F-4s. F-4s are greedy for fuel! If they have done their job over the target, the F-4s should RTB and rearm and refuel. All the bombs from the F-4s, should have been dropped all at once on the target. Carpet bombing wasn't very effective from a single fighter/ bomber. Most of the bombs missed the intended target. Maybe the B-52s will get what the F-4s missed...

[@jwrockets]

Team BUFF Forever.

[@craigw6557]

There would be no court martial.

[@Smoke-Screen.]

💯

[@salmanmajeed6420]

Gmm world