USS Iowa Vs Kirov In Cold Waters

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Inspired by the 1988 classic “Red Storm Rising”, command a nuclear submarine in a desperate attempt to prevent “mutually assured destruction” when the Cold War gets hot and WWIII begins.
You will be tasked with intercepting convoys, amphibious landings, insertion missions and battling it out with enemy warships, submarines and aircraft. Thankfully, an arsenal of wire-guided torpedoes, anti-ship and cruise missiles and the occasional SEAL team are on board to keep the Iron Curtain at bay.
00:00 Intro
00:30 Iowa vs Kirov
06:50 Kirov vs Iowa

[@GaldirEonai]

AI Kirov: Launching missiles one by one. Player Kirov: Going full Honor Harrington :D.

[@A350Airways]

Which one would be closer to the behavior of the actual Kirov's captain, the AI or the player?

[@nelsonteixeira3804]

​​@@A350Airways obviously it depends on the target, but against an Iowa, i dont think it would be holding back, specially under fire from the main guns and all those missiles.

[@Lannerii]

This was a lot of fun to watch! Comparing the Kirov and Iowa performances to last vid's Poti, I get the impression that the AI is a lot better with the smaller craft in this mod. Let's see some missile boat swarms next!

[@Wolfpack345]

Haha I had a similar idea:) ASW seems fun too!

[@aleksnight5406]

@@Wolfpack345 The creators of the game intentionally did so. If the big ships of the USSR will play in full force, the chances of the US NAVY are small.

[@asiss092]

@@Wolfpack345 Nonsense. The firing range of the P-700 Granite is a minimum of 150 kilometers. The bot launches a rocket once an hour.

[@billmuller6133]

The AI is pretty bad at surface ships as it doesn’t riplefire the missiles so even an Iowa can win against an ai Kirov like that - nevertheless good video. Late Ticonderoga (the one with VLS) vs Kirov could be fun

[@delayed_control]

Player always wins against any AI. The only way you can lose is with horribly inferior ship or when out of ammo

[@-Zevin-]

@@delayed_control Well that's not true with all games, depends on how well the AI is coded and how complex the game is.

[@scottmoon50]

Not really. The Ticonderoga class doesn't have the firepower for a Kirov plus 2000lb warhead for rip the ship in half. BTW take a look at a pic Tico class cruiser in the 1980s early 1990s and see where they moved the SQL 32(V)3. Why? Because the SQL-32 jamming in active or standby would cause interference with the CIWS radar causing it not to fire or track.

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

The AI is pretty stillborn in this game.

[@jamesTBurke]

In actual combat an Iowa would never go bow on like that. The 16 inch guns are devastating

[@DL541]

At one time there was a discussion about the Exocet missile hitting an Iowa-class, one of the captains responded, well, we would have to repaint the hit mark.

[@forcea1454]

Given that the Iowas have an internal belt, even an Exocet hit along the waterline would lead to a not insignificant amount of flooding and loss of waterplane area.

[@TheKurtkapan34]

An anti ship missile still carries a 150+kg warhead travelling at 600+kmh. A single one might not kill it, but it will still hurt like a motherfucker. And it will fuck up the superstructure, radars, guns, missile batteries.

[@Ropetor]

The granit carries a 750kg warhead or a 200kt nuclear one so it wouldn't be so true for it lol

[@forcea1454]

@@TheKurtkapan34 In addition to the warhead there's also unburnt missile fuel, and shrapnel of various kinds, including turbine spools from the missiles turbojet, which would cause significant fragment damage.

[@DL541]

@@TheKurtkapan34 I agree, Navasource and DAFNS has the quote. lol.

[@Strelnikov403]

You're activating your missiles way too late and they're going active after the enemy starts evading, acquiring the chaff instead of the ship. They have a seeker range of like 15km, pull those markers wayyyyyyy back. They're not like torpedoes. Edit: you're also launching chaff at full speed and outrunning the cloud. Slow down to ≤10kts to hide in the chaff cloud and turn to unmask your CIWS when going defensive. Phalanx sucks at intercepting the huge Soviet AShMs, and with a vessel without a SAM system(s) like the Iowa, you need to work your guns and chaff much harder than normal to avoid being hit.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Situation like that the Iowa probably would’ve been sailing with a battle group which would’ve easily handled the problem with no SAMs

[@edreesamien1064]

Situation like that the Iowa probably would’ve been sailing with a battle group which would’ve easily handled the problem with no SAMs 1

[@matthewcaughey8898]

@@edreesamien1064 yeah you just cut and pasted exactly what I already said

[@chaseinit1]

Situation like that the Iowa probably would’ve been sailing with a battle group which would’ve easily handled the problem with no SAMs

[@blameusa7082]

Situation like that the Iowa probably would’ve been sailing with a battle group which would’ve easily handled the problem with no SAMs

[@godswillkneel5072]

I just toured the actual USS Iowa with my daughters a week ago. Pretty awesome to climb around the decks if this old ship.

[@TheSDB13]

I appreciate the Dangerous Waters soundtrack

[@Wolfpack345]

Very fitting :)

[@Tom--Ace]

The Kirov was spawned within firing range of the battleship. That's playing to a battleship's strengths The situation may have been very different had the ships engaged out of gun range, which is very much more likely

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

Without air support the Kirov would be restricted to detecting the Iowa on radar which would already be in gun range of the Iowa.

[@xAlexTobiasxB]

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 the kirov carries 3 helicopter each of which has a radar, so it could detect the Iowa at 100 km easily. The Iowa doesn't carry any helicopter But realistically speaking they would never meet 1 vs 1 anyways so there goes your wet dream bubble.. 🙄

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

@@xAlexTobiasxB The Iowa's were one of the first Naval ships to use drones. We used them for spotting shell fall and finding targets. The RQ2B which had a range of 185 KM.

[@Tom--Ace]

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 that's great, but the Kirov would still detect you far far out of gun range. It doesn't matter if you detected the Kirov too! Its just stupid to think an Iowa could sail up to a Kirov without being detected. Its totally unrealistic and not only that, the inability of battleships to get within gun range (even in wwii!!) without excessive risk was the very reason battleships were abandoned in the first place! Battleships are cool, but obsolete. They would never get within range of a modern ship like the Kirov without being detected and likely hit by dozens of anti ship missiles, and rendered a mission kill at best

[@Tom--Ace]

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 no matter which way you stack it (lone Kirov vs lone Iowa, totally unrealistic, or fleet centred around Kirov and fleet centred around Iowa), the Kirov would always detect the Iowa far outside of gun range and while in a fleet vs fleet situation frigates may well hit the Kirov (it's uncertain who would win, although Kirov would have a huge advantage over ordinary missile frigates), the matter would be decided before the Iowa ever got involved and it would be essentially useless. The Iowa isn't a ship that's useful for matching up against the Kirov or modern missile frigates, which would always detect her well outside of gun range and would smash her to bits with missiles before she ever got into gun range (mission kill at the least, with all radars dead). Battleships are cool, but modern naval battles centre around missile and aircraft carrying ships like frigates, Kirov and most importantly, aircraft carriers. The Iowa in reality would likely sail with an aircraft carrier group, which would likely beat the Kirov battle group, and the only contribution of the Iowa to the battle would be shore bombardment and CWIS for incoming missiles

[@francisarmitage8142]

I always prefer surface combat over submarines etc, so I'm really glad to see this video. I'm impressed with the realism. It reminds me of the old 'Fleet Command' that I had a lot of fun with many years ago. It's a shame (to me) that modern war at sea games don't explore surface combat much. Thanks for uploading!

[@alanmalan3819]

Kirov was in battles vs German aviation in Baltic sea in real

[@Lucas_WAZZAA]

Alr, bet you already know this, but im still gonna mention it: Sea Power is the game you want to wishlist, its to be released in about half a year.

[@Hangry_Hungarian]

These Surface Cold War videos are really cool, would love to see more!

[@OfficialUSKRprogram]

Nice! Glad you played both sides, really gives a good perspective of both weapon systems

[@shadekerensky3691]

I look forward to when Sea Power comes out, it'll be so fun to see a proper Iowa vs Kirov fight.

[@Vchk1917]

Recently, the devs were interviewed by Jive Turkey (or Sub Brief, a former US sonarman who does gaming and naval analysis for a living). You might wanna watch it, both interviews that they participated in gave a lot of info about SP.

[@OmegaPaladin144]

That was awesome. This series has tons of potential. I think the Iowa might be fun in a convoy raiding scenario like the first one you did with the Tico. ASW would definitely be interesting as well.

[@justarandombird]

Ah yes, a great battle between 2 of my favourite ships. Great job!

[@Wolfpack345]

Thanks!

[@forcea1454]

Should really have launched all the TASMs and Harpoons at one in that first engagement. The Iowas were brought back into service primarily because they could carry a significant amount of Armoured Box Launchers for Tomahawks, not because of the guns (early on in the reactivation program mothballing the guns and just using the ship as a TASM/TLAM carrier was mooted).

[@sorenlilienthal1368]

The USMC, who loved artillery support from the sea and the bigger the better, were about the strongest supporters of reactivating the WW2 battleships.

[@IrishCarney]

@@sorenlilienthal1368 Said it for me, thanks. And the Marines were the biggest advocates for keeping the Iowas too. You'd think the Navy would at least have kept one of the Des Moines class heavy cruisers, since they had auto loading guns with double the rate of fire. Then again, 8 inches is a lot smaller than 16, and it's worse than that - the Des Moines' shells weighed 335 lbs but the Iowas' a whopping 1,900!

[@jayjay53313]

No it's not, the Iowa was reinstated because of its 16" battery good for clearing beaches for USMC amphibious landing apart from able to carry large numbers of TLAM before there's VLS. Its air defense system is no where near aegis having just RIM-7 Sea Sparrow Mk15 Phalanx CIWS. USS Iowa won't stand a chance against Kirov battlecruiser that has long range SAN-6 (S300) SAM, Mach 3+ sea skimming anti-ship missiles that could be launched multiple via its VLS.

[@IrishCarney]

@@jayjay53313 The Marines loved those guns for their primary mission of amphibious assault, but that love hadn't saved the Iowas from being retired on multiple prior occasions. No, what revived the Iowas was the Kirovs. The Iowas were not an exact mach for these Soviet "battlecruisers" but the political and PR pressure to match and counter these new Soviet monsters (which were well over twice the size of the Ticoconderoga cruisers) was intense, especially with the cancellation of the roughly Kirov-comparable Strike Cruiser concept.

[@jayjay53313]

@@IrishCarney the BBG revival came before Kirov battlecruiser enters service. There was need for artillery guns for beach landing when US predicted there will be war campaign in Middle East that might need battleship to secure beach head for amphibious assault. The battleships were later phased our when there's no more such war & there's no need for it plus it guzzles fuel with poor range. Kirov VLS inspired US to refit later Ticonderoga class cruisers that entered service with VLS replacing the impractical racks launcher for TLAM.

[@benwood42]

Nicely done! Love the videos and content. Keep it up!

[@jawajacobite7207]

I'd love to see you do a surface ship campaign! If at all possible. I think the Lowa would be a cool challenge. Great videos. Love em please keep em coming :)

[@paulbrozyna3006]

Considering how over loaded with munitions and fuel Soviet ships are, I’d have imagined one 16” into the front of the thing would have promoted it to cosmonaut.

[@Alexyrion]

My god I did not know I needed this so much. Now I REALLY want a modern surface ship combat game!

[@jingyunyang6275]

mobile game called modern warships. total shitshow

[@Wolfpack345]

Sea power will be our savior!

[@notfeedynotlazy]

Somebody should just upgrade good old Harpoon's graphics

[@stitch77100]

​@@notfeedynotlazy Command: modern operation ? (I don't know if that's what you meant, but it seemed to fit the description)

[@gareththompson2708]

I would be interested in seeing a more realistic scenario with both ships having their wartime escorts and starting at whatever distance they would have first detected each other at.

[@joeancinec]

Happy to see you do more of these like you said. Keep them coming.

[@tedlarsson1765]

Nice video man,beautiful visuals but the best thing abt it is you :) thanks for the great vids man

[@ColonelVermel]

This was really intense. Great matchup and a fun short engagement!

[@tefras14]

11:50 shooting down a missile but the thing is so angry it still hits you out of sheer spite

[@ultra4e]

This is a fun series to watch, thanks

[@Wolfpack345]

Glad you like it!

[@maxcaysey2844]

Love seeing anyting with an Iowa class really! Keep making these videos! We need more 16" gun fun!

[@Senor0Droolcup]

This was awesome! Lots of fun

[@gunnerpup7288]

Your simulation is already off, because the Kirov is actually able to shoot 😂😂😂 Altogether Though, great watch! Definitely excited to see more!

[@mz2288]

Really fun to watch!

[@ussenterprise3156]

Ah yes, Battleship vs Battlecruiser, Cold War edition

[@nixravette]

I've been playing with the USS John Paul Jones in the SCS campaign, and its some of the most fun I've had in Cold Waters.

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

The Kirov cruiser Peter the Great visited my city a few years ago. Massive ship that stood out like an elephant in the room when looking down towards the harbour docks.

[@user-xb5es8ux3v]

i wish i could see a kirov up close.

[@RuthlessPope]

Well done! A good matchup. Would you consider doing a Perry-class frigate against a Krivak-class frigate or a Neustrashimyy-class frigate?

[@mikeb53]

The main guns on a WW2 battleship would utterly SHRED anything that floats today if it scores hits. The trick would be surviving long enough with the battle ship to do so

[@squgieman]

that simply wont happen, pretty much all modern surface ships can out detect, out range, and in the worst case, out run those old gun based ships, also battleships would be absolutely shredded by modern heavy anti-ship missiles, which often weigh more than conventional gun shells, have more explosives, and move much faster

[@c3aloha]

As long as you don’t have an incompetent senior chief conducting amateur experiments with 80 year old gunpowder that kill your turret crews. RIP Iowa turret 2.

[@Matthewv1998]

​@@squgieman late reply but..not quite. battleships were built in a totally different mindset then what ships are today. modern ships today are lightweight, rapidly produced vessles made to duke it out over hundreds of miles battleships were made to fight in practically close quarters and made to take hits and keep fighting. the only real modern system that they're totally fucked against are modern torpedos since those are back breakers however...because battleships were made to protect against practically slinging bunker busters around, they have armor that simply isnt seen anymore. modern ships are practically all made out of shell plating which, modern weapons are made to combat against. hence why most modern missles are impact fused and not really made to go through 12 inches of side armor, and if its a deck attack, it has to go through a few decks thats even specfically made for that.. hence the bomb deck, 4.75" armored deck and the splinter deck now, are they invulnerable? no. any boat that gets hit with 1000lb explosive payload is going to have a bad day, but compared to modern ships where a single successful hit practically dooms the ship, a hit on a iowa would more then likely just be a combat knockout and could make it home to be repaired. or keep fighting if it has to, if anythings in range of its guns that is.

[@jilthunder2276]

This was awesome!

[@SuperIv7]

In reality Kirov would launch a salvo of Mach2+ P-700 missiles from few hundred miles and run away. Those missiles would select appropriate paths and approach the target simultaneously and from different directions. At no point Kirov would be in danger of being hit by anything that Iowa has.

[@captaincumrag42069]

The Kirov would just have to stay out of the range of the Iowa's guns and it's anti air defenses should be able to take down most missles that the Iowa would fire at it. Although I'm confident many modern surface ships would destroy an Iowa, by just bombarding it with missiles from beyond visual range, well out of range of the Iowa's guns. An Arliegh Burke destroyer could do kill an Iowa. Unless for whatever reason the US Navy decides to super fit the old battleships with modern weapons lmao

[@MultiGamingNetwork03]

@@captaincumrag42069 Iowa has these things called CWIS. It'll laugh as it knocks your missiles out of the sky.

[@ThatGuyOrby]

@@captaincumrag42069 That would only work assuming that Kirov's AA systems worked and considering what we found out about the condition of the Moskva (which was the literal Flagship of the Black Sea Fleet) when it was sunk? Chances are none of it would be. The only AA systems that were functional on Moskva at the time it was attacked was one of it's five CIWS emplacements. We know this because of a maintenance report that was declassified mere weeks before the ship's sinking which revealed that it was barely even functional.

[@captaincumrag42069]

@@ThatGuyOrby I'm aware of that now and having read up more on the poor condition of the Soviet fleet and how current Russia maintains that fleet, my chances are now on Iowa. While it'd still be possible for Kirov to launch enough missiles to overwhelm the Iowa's CWIZ systems I doubt they would waste that many to try. They are pretty much equal In terms of speed so whoever spots who first has the advantage. Hearing about how awful Russian crew training and damage control I'm even less confident in them. It's crazy how poorly they maintained those Soviet era ships and now the effects are biting them in the ass in the Ukraine/Russia conflict

[@AllCreativeGaming]

I would love to see a Bizmark vs Tirpitz battle 🙏🏻

[@themightiestofbooshes9443]

I thought it was pretty cool watching the Iowa open up with the 406s. I don't play CW with mods so this was very refreshing to see.

[@danielefabbro822]

Just imagine if the Iowa had our laser system to point and tracking targets. 16' laser guided shells would hit that target. With a single salvo you would have rekt it.

[@Stlaind]

In 1991 they were using drones for spotting and one even got an iraqi garrison to surrender to it's drone....

[@22steve5150]

Imagine if the Navy would have went ahead with the early to mid 90's modernization plans. New shells for the 16" guns that more than doubled the range, significantly upgraded air defenses including both RAM and ESSM launchers, new shock resistant illumination radars, Mk41 VLS modules, and belowdecks rear hangar for drones.

[@l.m.s2874]

Арта в 21 веке? Ерунда, дорого слишком. Даже если дальность в два раза увеличить. Сейчас на модернизированном "Адмирал Нахимов" ставят гиперзвуковые "Циркон", с дальностью 1000км. Это куда дешевле арты, да и эффективнее)

[@danielefabbro822]

@@l.m.s2874 can you translate to English? I can't do that from my phone.

[@l.m.s2874]

@@danielefabbro822 Sorry, i don't speek english, i from Russia. "Translete")

[@MrFunkhauser]

that granite that circled your ship accidently is a great strategy to distract CWIS EDIT: The AI in this game is almost always a dissapointment. Fire one torp/missle and do nothing else.

[@Wolfpack345]

It is a mod, the ai is not ment to do this.

[@wyndo1492]

What music plays at the beginning of the video? It really gives me the chills.

[@matthewwood575]

I think it would be cool to do a sub vs. surface ship/s. Idk what kind of stuff they have for that but it‘d be interesting

[@lauriea2971]

Could u do the German battleship Bismarck vs the Usn Iowa class

[@timonsolus]

Bismarck was severely outclassed by Iowa. 1940 technology vs 1945 technology. Iowa had far superior radars and fire control.

[@portablepooper1173]

Yes however the Iowa class has weaker armor than the Bismarck. Iowa didn’t have turtle back. The Bismarck took dozens of torpedos to sink, the Iowa would only need 4 to 6

[@filippomunari8147]

@@portablepooper1173 bismarck was not sunk, he was scuttled by his crew after getting hit in the helm by a torpedo

[@DarthPhallix]

@@timonsolus You're partially correct. Had the Bismarck survived until the end of the war, it's a certainty that the Germans would have been continuously upgrading her with more modern and advanced systems as the war drew on. A hypothetical 1945 Bismarck with new gadgets and technology would have been a formidable adversary provided there were no aircraft around, which were the bane of any large surface ship in that conflict. Even in 1940, she was more than a match for anything afloat. In addition to being a war of attrition, WW2 was really just one giant arms race, and the Germans were no slouches in developing useful and innovative goodies. By 1943-44, however, they had begun to suffer in terms of logistics and production in a big way. What cannot be refuted is that their optics and naval gunnery were devastatingly accurate.

[@jace_under_mars5386]

@@portablepooper1173 True but the Iowa and Yamato caused Germany to come up with the H class battleship. The Iowa was a very fearsome ship, She and her sisters also had better guns. The main issue with Bismarck is it's guns would break down very easily. Meanwhile Iowa had better fire control,better guns,bigger guns, and could fire from farther.

[@jedispartancoolman]

It is my dream that games like this will combine with DCS and gunner heat ready

[@BigJwlz]

07:31 Kirov class ships are nuclear powered, but this simulator shows it emitting exhaust fumes.

[@pjornowski1]

this was a lot of fun to watch. I would like to see Arleigh burke destroyer go against the Kirov

[@Zulgurub]

Very cool engagement. Can you do a surface campaign?

[@kylestoddard2881]

Does the 5"/38 battery work in this mod? Not that it would be terribly useful against supersonic ASMs, but every little bit might help.

[@ushwallman2070]

Imagine a purpose made game about the Iowa class, all the war from WW2 to when they were finally decommissioned

[@M16_Akula-III]

Got a tip, if you're fighting a full on USN CBG, always use the S-300's first..

[@stopitgetsomehelp1961]

you could do a tico campaign as thanks to the spruance hull the tico is very good at asw using the rockets as you can spam them where a sub is and it'll take 2-4 hits from the torpedoes to sink a sub

[@Falkirion]

Kinda curious how an ASW exercise could go. DD hunting SSN's is something I'd love to see

[@hantykje3005]

1984 campain with HMS Conqueror who 40 years ago sank the Belgrano is my suggestion for av future campain.

[@wadehans3n]

Are you able to set up anything large scale with a couple AI ships on your side to help out and/or be missile sponges?

[@Wolfpack345]

Sadly I can't have any friendly ai ships

[@RedneckRapture]

Full fleet battle. LIke, full taskforces on both sides going at each other full bore.

[@alexeivoloshin5984]

The sheer kinetic energy of a Granite striking the ship at supersonic speeds will treat it apart.

[@thesuit4820]

Battleship New Jersey did a Kirov vs Iowa vid. I wonder how this plays out...

[@Deltarious]

I'm sorry but in a battle where an Iowa somehow magically spawns in gun range of a Kirov it's not even a contest and the Iowa will steamroll the Kirov every time. It only takes one solid hit from a 16 inch shell to completely ruin the Kirov's day and although the Kirov could cripple the Iowa with solid hits we must remember that it is an armoured battleship and is designed to take hits. Of course there is no realistic scenario where an Iowa *gets* into gun range of a Kirov before sustaining mission-killing levels of damage, but if it were teleported to within a reasonable range the Kirov is not going to survive.

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

Say they were in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, how is Kirov going to detect Iowa at long range? Without land based aircraft to identify a target and pass on firing information Kirov is BLIND. If she relied on her surface search radar by the time she detects Iowa she is already in range of those fearsome guns.

[@syphonfilter9588]

Do you thin kyou could play as a surface ship VS AI submarine(s), maybe protecting a convoy to make it more interesting?

[@M16_Akula-III]

Having friendlies is impossible in Cold Waters, you can, fight AI submarine with a surface ship if you use a mod..

[@Panther_5]

Now you need to do a Kirov vs 10 subs 😂😅

[@Wolfpack345]

Haha oh boy. I definitely want to do some ASW!

[@Panther_5]

Yah, I’ve played with the Russian RBU’s, they are fun to use, I one shoted a Typhoon class with the RBU

[@Panther_5]

It’s even better when you hit the sub with a RBU and they blow ballast but they still sink, slowly until they crush.

[@robinraphael]

we need to see you play against another well rounded player aka real person not A I

[@Panther_5]

@@robinraphael cold waters is a single player game, but it would be cool to do multiplayer in cold waters, but all killer fish games are single player :/

[@damop4420]

I'm impressed with the AI's usage with the smaller ships, where as when it was controlling the Iowa, it put itself into a vulnerable position. Firstly, not firing it's main guns that can fire over 20 kms, nor turning to allow the CIWS to engage correctly. That wasn't you, that was the AI that I'm talking about. But I did enjoy the video.

[@jonathanallen9854]

That was interesting. No room for finesse, just pure brute force, kick the door open stuff.

[@JessWLStuart]

I'm curious about how the DOT mod handles carrier combat. That would include controlling planes, missiles, etc...

[@spinosarcadegaming4538]

It doesn't as far as I know.

[@jfbooth170]

I've asked the same thing and use sub's and planes and every weapon by each country...

[@sickemdroops]

What other ships does DOT mod offer maybe livestream?

[@NEXIS981]

I like the Kirov. I play it in World of Warships, but there it isn't a missile cruiser, but a artillery cruiser :) Nice battle, *Thumbs up*

[@Klovaneer]

Kirov is great in warthunder at it's rating (tier) because it outranges and outpaces everything, quite a glass cannon though

[@andrewmontgomery5621]

Clash of the Titans.

[@barnacle_bill2257]

clash o' clans

[@atlas9852]

Not sure if these are in the mod, but Bismark vs Yamato?

[@_R-R]

Spru-can destroyers or FFG-7 frigates would be cool. The Iowas had their own dedicated Battleship Battle Groups that were organized to supplement, yet independent of, Carrier Battle Groups. Each BBBG had cruisers for AW, destroyers and frigates for SUW/ASW, and support ships. If anyone has other information/opinions, comment section. Kindly. (sources: FAS, Battleship New Jersey KZbin channel (Battle Group Romeo), my father who observed these ships in action during the Gulf War.)

[@williamkuebler5775]

Would it be possible to do a Kirov vs. Carrier Group match?

[@zapy9715]

You know for a warship designed in 1939 and built in 1940, The Iowa did pretty good against a ship made thirty years later.

[@MrLuftwafflez]

Iowa is armed to take a 16 inch shell punch. The kirov has a glass jaw.

[@jugganaut33]

@@MrLuftwafflez: a glass jaw.. if you can get close enough?? She can sustain well over 33knots in all sea states. You won’t catch her with a diesel boat in endurance or speed. Her Granite missiles can strike Mad dogged at 600km. Twice the range of Harpoons. With only 16” guns being the only thing that can kill her at 50km. By which point Her Rocket launched Torpedos were likely already under Iowa’s keel. It’s like saying you’d have the chance against a Long bowman or a Crossbowman or a pikeman in an open field just because you’re wearing armour and holding a big club. or realistically in Kirovs case… you’d be facing all three at once. Kirov was designed to be able to take on an entire US navy Carrier group Solo. A battleship is a joke to her.

[@gabriels5105]

@@jugganaut33 what are you on about. Iowa can go 37 knots. Kirov might be faster but at least look at shaft horsepower and concider these ships should be slower on the specs page than irl. Im not sure about the others stuff. Dose kirov have the correct system to guide it. Thats the only part that matters. The ordinance on Kirov's deck can be detonated and fires can take her down from smaller weapons if she dose not use everything. She is probably not going to actually deal with a carrier group. Thats alot of planes and ships and even she probably dose not have enough missiles even if they all landed to get everything. Thats a alot of targets and a submarine.

[@vanta_8lack591]

@@jugganaut33 to counter the speed, the USS New Jersey , 2nd of the iowa class Batlteships. ran for 2 hours at 36 knots chasing a japanese destroyer earning the world record for fastest BB in the world. 2nd the way taht armor is being made compared to the past is different. the iowas if hit amid shiops their torpedo blisters can take the hit. the blister are filled with bunker fuel so it will sow down the missle if its gets through the blister. the fuel is not flammble so it wont detonate. the iowa can handle the kirov, also when the shell hit her vls the kirov would be dead. the iowa would be using AP against the kirov. anywasy the iowa if needed could be sent with the W23 or W19 (refitted with a sabot round) would end the match.

[@charlesc.9012]

We often severely underestimate fast battleships like that. They were designed to absorb torpedo hits and heavy shells while continuing to function, and they were fast enough to keep up with a carrier fleet in operating in excess of 30 knots. They were also updated to have competent electronics for the age, and the refit also cost less than buying a new frigate. A Granite is only the equivalent of a 15" HE shell, but without the specialised naval shell design or velocities to deal noticeable damage to a super dreadnought, which meant no mortal damage could be dealt. They were big, but they could deliver barely more than a full salvo from HMS Agincourt in the WW1 era. Advanced torpedoes of the cold war were also unlikely to have warheads big enough to disable a battleship with a single salvo At that displacement, they could also carry a huge amount of missile armament. The real problem was that such power was excessive, and the massive crew she needed cost too much money to upkeep

[@alexanderleach3365]

Totally intense!

[@joelaroche8103]

Those 16 inches might be a relic of the past, but they still will chop in half anything smaller then a heavly armoured Battleship

[@markschmidt1282]

I wonder if you could go against a carrier?? You did a great job on both ends' bro!!

[@battleship6177]

Yes you can

[@chrisakins692]

That first hit would have sunk the Kirov. The flooding would have been uncontrollable. Also, the computer did a lousy job fighting the Iowa.

[@hogandonahue9598]

That was hella intense.

[@Kaiimei]

Honestly, if you were taking it seriously, the Kirov would have completely crushed the Iowa without contest. By the time those 16'' guns were on target, the VLS missiles would have overwhelmed their defence. Just four Granite missiles was enough to press through and sink the ship, so with S-300F's intercepting the Iowa missiles and evasive maneuvers to avoid the 16'' shells, it would have been a perfect battle xD

[@cfitzwater01]

After Action Report: Missile hit in the Main Engineering, the Reactor Scammed but there was a line rupture to the Cooling system and with that, the Reactor overheated 🥵. That is why the Reactor melted through the bottom of the ship and is now setting in 23,000 ft of water….cooling off? Oh, you lost one third of the crew with Radiation poisoning and the rest needed Radiation treatment. 😉

[@ramal5708]

I would offload the TLAMs and go on full TASM fire all TASM and UGM-84s at the enemy formation and target the 16inchers unto the nearest vessel, also all ahead flank speed for evasive maneuver. Tbh surface vessels in this game are much more chaotic in contrast to playing subs as you could use time compression in the sub some of the time.

[@ethannaftalin2395]

What is this mod and where can I find it?

[@martinkulash4061]

How about some sub against surface warfare and you try out some really weird or unique faction subs

[@milcomander6741]

Could you do Aircraft Carrier Fleet next?

[@curtisr2656]

Good job, interesting to watch both sides of the mission. It still sucks to see our side lose, (US). Fortunately, we are on the right side of history. Thanks again for the cool video.

[@cmfield6632]

Liked this one. The two way was cool...

[@pdxcorgidad]

Wolf: "My money is on the Kirov to win this battle." *Immediate missile strike amidship.* Ian Malcolm: "Boy do I hate being right all the time."

[@hupreix2553]

big ww2 daddy is bacck 🤩🤩😍😍

[@Wolfpack345]

🙏

[@greyed]

Man, I wish my rear turret turned that fast in WoWs. o.O

[@ralgith]

Still waiting for the Ticonderoga campaign ;)

[@JascDark]

Missle ship or carrier after getting too close to a fully armed Iowa: so you choose...death.

[@fy4370]

Would it be possible to fight as a ship against a sub? that change of perspektive would be really nice to see!

[@andrewmargraff]

I believe in the video he mentioned wanting to do some ASW.\

[@TheMouseMasterYT]

I know that when seeing the Iowa in action, the first thing I usually hear is "up scope"

[@jfbooth170]

I'd like to see full carrier fleet attack a carrier fleet with both sides using subs also... USA vs Russia USA vs China GB vs Russia GB vs China Lots of different battles... Pick any...

[@ceberskie119]

The AI seems to be treating missiles like torpedoes since they know exactly where you are they're only launching one or two missiles at a time. Which would work with torpedoes but not with ASMs. Great mod still seems to need some work.

[@IchbinSeppi]

Do an Alfa vs. Los Angeles video with you in the Alfa!

[@Robert53area]

Let's see if the kirov and a Slava class could take on a carrier group. 1 carrier 3 Ticonderoga 4 DDGs

[@1995paul1]

Do you unlock the Iowa somewhere in the game or is it a mod ? Thanks !

[@MultiGamingNetwork03]

mod

[@chaingun1701]

Is there a link to thus mod?

[@YukarisGearReviews]

is that Fleet Command music I hear?!?!

[@Keith-zn4vq]

What about the Missouri vs Kirov. That would be a fight.

[@buboogade8898]

Love it.

[@bamboo8212]

I want to see Gangut and Derzki against Piotr Veliky