What the Tech?!?! Ep. 28: Are you getting accurate information?

[@randomrooney5886]

Maybe the inner barrel is 49 meters long...

[@mbre01]

Even in sales (at least if your in it for the long haul), honesty is ALWAYS the best policy.

[@reeceengineering3560]

I like that you made this video but dont use random scraps of card board. Get a fresh piece and draw out what you are shooting at before the take not after. You could add value to your accuracy tests as it stands now.

[@stephger1925]

Groupingtest outdoor without a fixed gun on a bench? Ähm. Why?

[@marcinzablocki3921]

Aeg from 25 m you shoud get easy 9 of 10 then if you got only 3 then you are bad or something wrong with your gun

[@Hexxygolarge]

thanks gents, i'm glad you had the balls to do this, i feel a bit lucky now as i too was taken back by the vid, so much so that i ordered the G&P polarstar jack with r3 stock to disprove it... after a few days was told they was out of stock with no intentions to restock then refunded my cash... was gutted at the time but now.... well i feel lucky to say the least... lol.... perhaps its time to put a pre-order in for an mtw... i just wish there was more info on the air stock and options to pre order the mtw with the air stock pre-installed as it'll be a complete waste of materials as (for me at least) the standard stock and tube would end up in the bin... i used to do a lot of tech work but not so much anymore due to ill health so have had a huge clear out and vowed to never again let my tech room get so bad ever again, speaks volumes wen you find a snow wolf m99 and an a&k m60 in bits in the corner of the room that you had completely forgotten about.... anyway the new motto is ... if it ain't going on the gun its going in the bin, lol

[@WolverineAirsoft]

Hey HexX, we appreciate the comment! I understand you not wanting to tech anymore, which is why we made the modules, including the Aero as easy as possible. While eventually, we hope to offer a "gun-builder" model, that isn't really an option now, but the Aero installation is extremely easy and we have a helpful video for it. You could also contact Dion Franklin of TokenTech Airsoft, he does great tech work and is very knowledgeable about the Aero.

[@Hexxygolarge]

great info thanks guys i do like the idea of the modules though, perhaps an idea for a future project for you could be quick detach modules, maybe utalising a dual air line option one going to the grip an one to a qd block at the back of the receiver to attach a qd buffer tube to (perhaps a locking ring then a push-twist-pull), could then switch between Aero/Wraith,/Quake/standard buffer tubes, an maybe then when low on air pressure or co2 etc a tank into the grip like a normal setup and a quake stock ...... anyway my imagination is running away with me now lol but I am sure that i'm not alone in being exited about your MTW, and as a business your living the dream, and if i was 'across the pond' then id probably be hounding you for a job (so in that sense your probably lucky and dodging a bullet there) lolx10

[@marcovaltellini7184]

after years of struggling against an un-honest informations and false expectations (even at the risk of losing potential customers), I can only say !!! thank you !!! for this video that shows what I'm saying by years (first in Italy since 2011 to import distributing and installing hpa systems) was now that a voice of disappointment came from a more authoritative voice of mine. get at1J with the same BB, barrels, nubs, and rubber with an HPA system the same results of an electrical system, especially in full auto, is not a starting point but the arrival point, dynamics and forces acting on the BB in a hpa system, especially in open bolt systems but also in close bolt systems used in full auto when there is no way to set a delay in shoot, achieving excellent results, as well as close bolt systems and also in delayed systems, airflow delivery and impulse are such that is not comparable to a cylinder piston spring system, the rubber receives a bb which has undergone a totally different acceleration and in some cases even a push to the totally different incursion ..... and this does not play in favor but it is only thanks to the goodness of the product and the capacity of the installer if it is possible to approach to a target congruity typical of an AEG,then the weight of the ball, the barrel, the rubber, the wind do the rest and if they are typically identical in the two cases and only a false expectation is to expect substantive improvements with HPA systems that have many( a lot of) OBJECTIVES adavantage but to look elsewhere...this is my opinion Thank again !!

[@Malficion]

Remember, 2j on an AEG is 2j on an HPA, they don't get magically faster for longer.

[@krisnestorurian9127]

Maybe the test made a typo? Like they should have typed in 5 m instead of 50?

[@dickiewongtk]

Honest marketing by airsoft makers? Those hong kong and taiwanese companys in which thier target customers mainly want to look cool but disregard the real performance? Not in a million years.

[@ejremod]

If you look at blades of grass at first target ,it looks to be only 12" tall . I could be wrong but thats what it looks like to me.

[@CBEPXCuCTEMA]

Мы в России делаем страйкбольные привода, которые стреляют прямой наводкой на 90+ метров с кучностью в грудную мишень. На системе wolverine

[@JacobbBrah]

Yeah? And how many fps do you have? A friggin 2000??

[@justingroeneveld6454]

The other other vid that you are replicating thoae are paper targets.

[@MBKill3rCat]

I'd be extremely surprised if there's any airsoft gun which can deliver a 3" group at 50m

[@anomalyp8584]

It's physically not possible.

[@airsoftsniper9191]

wolverine mtw with .40+ g bbs :')

[@Lonewolfoperations]

So is there any advantage of going hpa I want a dmr spr setup am I better off getting the ssg24 for the price point and accuracy?

[@MBKill3rCat]

HPA has advantages, definitely. It's a bit more reliable than gas and you don't need to worry about cooldown or cold weather. You still get nice blowback if it's a converted GBBR. You can set the regulator to deliver exactly the power you want. The disadvantage is that you need to carry around a tank and a hose, and you don't have the same realism as a GBBR. As far as accuracy goes, HPA doesn't make the gun any more accurate, that's nonsense. Once the BB has left the barrel it has no memory of the gun it was fired from. What you should worry about is: 1) The weight and quality of your BBs. I use high-quality 0.32g or higher BBs for better range and accuracy. 2) The quality and rubber type of your hop-up bucking. You want a well-made, high quality hop rubber. The softness of the rubber is important; a softer rubber will give better grip on the BBs, but is more susceptible to tearing and by some accounts gives a less *consistent* hop. A harder rubber won't grip the BB as well. Rubber hardness varies by temperature, so test a few different hop rubbers and see what works best in your climate. A consistent hop is paramount for accuracy; many people I've spoken to swear by R-hop, as it allows you to lift very heavy BBs and provides a good, consistent hop. But it's not something I've tried personally. Inner barrel quality is important as well, but it's more of a limiting factor compared to the other two. Wide-bore vs tight-bore doesn't make much difference, except in FPS and likelihood of a cheap BB with wide tolerances getting stuck. The claims of wide-bore improving accuracy are bogus, and come from a misunderstanding of the physics of how a BB behaves inside a barrel.

[@anomalyp8584]

Perfect busting.

[@Veritas55]

I can honestly say even my mtw with tight bore and a bucking and hop up upgrade at 50 meters I can hit about 65% of my shots on a stand still target. Now the person moving that percentage decreases by a lot.

[@marcinzablocki3921]

Aeg from 25 m you shoud get easy 9 of 10 then if you got only 3 then you are bad or something wrong with your gun

[@nathanfranklin6451]

errmm... thats paper, dudes. Not cardboard

[@kwooook]

no that is indeed cardboard

[@nathanfranklin6451]

@@kwooook bruh if you're tryin to tell me that that target in the original video to which they are referring is cardboard and not paper, then my socks are shoes and my slippers are boots. you telling me I got boots on my shoes!?

[@kwooook]

@@nathanfranklin6451 oh no i was referring to the one wolverine airsoft shot at lol,didnt even cross my mind that you where talking about that tbh

[@nathanfranklin6451]

@@kwooook lol i guess my comment wasn't very clear. it just seems silly to test on cardboard when the video clearly shows a paper target...

[@233kosta]

A good few air rifles and pistols have trouble getting a 3" group at 50m, airsoft guns have next to no chance!

[@TiKi-zc8hr]

Hey stampede airsoft. My dude lol

[@alexandermarshall4382]

They state it was a dmr setup. It's impossible to shoot a .32 at dmr speeds with less than 2j at 50 yards. Learn yo physics. Thank you wolverine airsoft for this vid!

[@233kosta]

Airsoft gun classifications are defined by energy, not velocity.

[@alexandermarshall4382]

@@233kosta around here it's velocity, we don't consider a 450 fps .556 to not be a DMR. I am aware that some fields classify by joules. Thanks tho!

[@233kosta]

@@alexandermarshall4382 First I hear of this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Wait... so you mean I can play with 0.8g BBs at that site and they won't bat an eyelid?

[@alexandermarshall4382]

@@233kosta no. You may not use .8 steel bbs. That's a stupid question at best. .4 bbs yes. Jesus lol. You show me 6mm plastic .8 bbs

[@alexandermarshall4382]

@@233kosta I take it you must know it all? From now on I will just ask for your permission before posting any comments on these delicate subjects lol.

[@rashidveitia6591]

Thanks Bro

[@TomClothier]

Quality acting lads.

[@wolverineairsoft4863]

Dalton is considering a new career.

[@michaelm2839]

I extremely doubt the how will shot in a very small circle in 50 meters as it means that the barrel must have been an 6.01mm with a 80 degree hop-up bucking

[@AkosiMRswabe]

The rifle they used for the 50m range is a DMR set up they said. Can you also try to do it with the same DMR set up

[@a10goesbrrrrrrrrrrt52]

DMR or not it's bullshit.

[@slightofhandband]

Is that LaCroix Boy?!?!

[@hogstoothairsoft1967]

pfff, i pierce that cardboard on 50m like you did on 10m with my aeg with 0.45g bbs (ICS CXP M4 M.A.R.S. DMR / Slong3 6.03 455mm Barrel with R-Hop / 1.7J with Madbull M110 Spring)

[@gorillaump5869]

Easy killer! Don't go punching holes through carbboard and saving the world all by yourself.

[@isaacshively6705]

No you don't, a M110 with that length of a inner barrel and that heavy of bb's? I don't think so, and a DMR with a M110... your pretty knowledgeable

[@hogstoothairsoft1967]

isaac shively it was delivered with a M120 wich had 1,9J, i had to downgrade it for our field limits... and bcs of the r-hop the bb weight is just perfect