Women over 30yrs discuss marriage pressure, intimidating men, careers and friendships | Lynn Ngugi

[@TheModernManKe.]

THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION. 1. Men who are intimated by successful women are men who are beneath those women socially & in status. 2. How come it's only women over 30 years old who always say they intimidate men? I have never heard of women in their 20s say the same thing. 3. Men prefer younger women who they can lead. It's like that's verse that says, train a child in the ways of the lord. So that when they grow up, they won't depart from them. In short, you cant teach an old dog new tricks. 4. What women call "empowerment" is simply having a job & paying all your bills. But you're an adult. These are things you should do for yourself without expecting to be cheered. Because we chose to hustle, we also chose to take the responsibilities that come with it. It's called being an adult. 5. Real empowerment is seen when you can do things you weren't allowed to do. But women have been working for the last 60 years. So how have they not been empowered financially? 6. Modern women place value in being able to sustain themselves. But who was supposed to do that from the beginning? 7. Some of these women were raised by single mothers. How would they know how to build a relationship if they've never seen a functioning one from home? They clearly don't know anything about being a wife or a girlfriend to someone because they never saw their mothers be that. & that's not their fault. But to repeat that cycle is. 7. Women over 30 have generally been through a lot. Being emotional beings, it takes a toll on them. & pair bonding becomes difficult. So they drown themselves in work. 8. I am yet to see a woman say that the man she's attracted to or interested in, is intimidated by her. If he is & you want him, what does that say about your choices in men? Furthermore, women know that the only men who matter are those ones they want or those who are above them in every way, shape or form. 9. I am all for women growing in life. But your innate desire is to have a family of your own. You can be super successful in life, but without that, you're not considered a woman yet. That's just how life is. I mean, you cant be an hopeless romantic & still claim to want career over family. 10. If truly women have evolved to being modern, why should men continue being traditional? & what exactly is a modem woman? Because I haven't seen any woman take a man out on a date, pay his bills, propose to him, build him up, be comfortable with him being a stay at home dad & all. Female empowerment, this modern version of it, is an idea created to deny the woman her real feminine essence. Just the same way neglecting the man is a narrative created to destroy the real essense of a man.

[@augustinewamalwa20]

I love your analysis, especially with the cycle and nurturing matters, one can't have unrealistic demands to men because you can provide, I support empowerment but feel the conversation atimes is headed in the wrong direction

[@Justbinji]

Lynn better give this guy a show , budha umeandika, ur real lakini those women in 30 should never waste our time , leave them until they get to the 4 th floor. Hapo ndio wanafungua macho. Otherwise l like the fact that both men and women can talk in this country

[@vikeke1782]

Chairman no one is willing to have that conversation. The men they choose are intimidated by them

[@ichooseviolence2532]

All in all, the WALL remains undefeated 🌝

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

There are two point 7s. Good info though

[@MyAfricathis]

Lydia's skin is skinning 🔥.She comes across as very authentic

[@sandykarimi9131]

Very true she is very intelligent 😊.

[@shirokuriah]

I was looking for this comment. The skin is glowing.

[@fasinamahlare1798]

The first thing i recognise is skin jessseess&the IQ is on another level, enjoying the show 🇿🇦

[@rhodaojwang2961]

The lady with the dreads is making it seem like she is so much aware than other women. Lady, the self awareness comes with time and experience. I like how Lydia is very open with her mistakes and her path to healing.

[@ANM657]

Everyone needs a Lydia in their life! Shes real, honest and uses her own experiences and life lessons not theory. I love that shes also introspective and unlearning, learning and relearning unapologetically

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Thank you ❤

[@christinewanjiru1158]

I love her too. She is so real

[@florencekitonyi9686]

Lydia is just a vibe so real

[@legalmind4354]

Birds of the same feather flock together

[@ruthkaranja1045]

She is a gem 💎

[@patiencempirirwe5449]

The lady in yellow blouse is the MVP, she's real and entertaining, you should definitely bring her back.

[@RoyGatonye]

I honestly hate the way Anifa is sarcastically laughing. Respect Lydia's opinion because to me and many others she's making a lot of sense. Next time she should stile up.

[@peninaapudo5396]

Also, Lyn joined in the sarcastic laugh. I hope she sees this and improves. Make all your guest feel important

[@peacepatience]

Lydia is the full vibe! So real and relatable. Great show Lynn, thank you.

[@patiencempirirwe5449]

Is Lydia the one in a yellow blouse. She's a vibe.

[@carolinemwaniki1104]

yeah the one in yellow@@patiencempirirwe5449

[@carolinekyalo2112]

Hanifa is so out of touch with reality 😢, i didn't like how she was attacking Lydia, The things Lyd was saying are so real, it's what is happening in the society & women have changed,some don't want children & marriage & that's okay. Good job Lyd for speaking your truth, keeping your composure and tackling this with maturity and grace❤❤❤

[@CoachVioletRibu]

True, she came out as very condencsending and playing safe to show her best side while Lydia was so authentic.

[@lilywhite8029]

Today's society normalizes crap The advocate is countering that but not everyone is ready

[@christinewanjiru1158]

Very true

[@janetarus6602]

True

[@wamgitau92]

Anifa is trying to be the advocate for the norm. What should happen. Lydia is giving us mambo kwa ground, which I appreciate because my children are at that age.

[@florakagendo8282]

Lydia is the gal here❤ So real. Men, this Lydia is the real wife material 🎉

[@faithmaingi4731]

LYDIA AND ROSE ARE SO REAL AND LOGICAL ❤

[@lillianwaweru5475]

Love love love Lydia's willingness to be honest and vulnerable. Anifa speaks from the sunny side of life, and we understand....Rose has such beautiful melanin skin and eyes eish. Lovely group. Host them again please!.... and give Lydia her own show this instant😊

[@janetarus6602]

Yes Lynn give Lydia her own show. Hanifa is wishy washy…..

[@Olcool]

Lydia is a legend. Hahahaha. I come to represent her all the way from Zimbabwe 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@liliansimiyu1123]

Anifa was my classmate in high school. Trust me she speaks that way.

[@anifamango6756]

@@liliansimiyu1123 OMG Lilo... How are you... Been a minute, I hope you are well

[@jennifermcwhortet7934]

​. Anifa is my type. The truth. The reality. The doable God's fashion.

[@linetmaingi6065]

I love Lydia a lot, she is so truthful, humorous and relatable to what’s on the ground.

[@christineayako3841]

Lydia has really made my day. This lady is so real.

[@rispernzioka7891]

I knew her from ticktock she is real

[@marykaluki1945]

Lydia all the way....she is so real...the show is all about her....until the other ladies can just afford to laugh..i love her courage and her convincing power..❤

[@benahgichimu2733]

Ukweli

[@florencethwagi3456]

The Lady in yellow is so real yes

[@susanwanja1572]

❤

[@wairimumuthuo9625]

anifa is just waiting for Lydia to speak ndio auto makosa, the fact that Lydia never get's defensive shows she's self aware and on the right track

[@stayhealthywithdot9969]

And it is not that Lydia is advocating for nyash/money culture, she just saying what is happening in the real world.

[@WanjiruMuya]

At 30's you are brilliant and ready to make better financial decisions & not ready to take BS🙂😁👏Bravo Ladies

[@catherinemuli5047]

This is so me

[@LucyMwikali-jj6sl]

Lydia is raw and candid 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Rose is more of an introvert ❤❤❤ Anifa is a good opposer (for lack of a better word)🎉🎉🎉 The overall thing is, we should be aware and intentional.

[@winnieem7608]

Lydia you're so authentic and your vulnerability is so admirable

[@valmybrooke]

The way Lydia threw delulu out the window and laid things down transparently for what they are??? Omg!!! Such a smart and real babe that one!!!

[@missdee2785]

Lydia is so real, that's the situation on the ground where you find yourself ok without marriage.

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Thank you ❤

[@susanwanja1572]

Very true .lydia❤

[@kasichanaednar1521]

She nailed the conversation by sticking to the topic (the woman's perspective) and actually airing out the reality on the ground, perhaps because where she is at in life resonates with the conversation. Not that the reality is perfect, but its the reality anyway....and such is life! We learn as we grow.

[@mekdesassefa9136]

Great conversation. I felt Anifa was attacking every statement Lydia was making. Lydia is a real vibe and spoke what is on the ground. Anifa should listen more and not respond by making reference to other people's experiences. This is not a debate but a conversation

[@njokikamwari6514]

I got married at 25yrs now almost mid thirties still here and happy❤❤❤... Marriage is a two way and the two must in a place where they understand how to handle each other.. Communicate better in all aspects of the Union

[@RachelDiana-o4m]

Keep it up baba

[@traceytotio]

I had a bad day but Lydia cheered me up❤😂. Rose is so composed. Hanifa seems to have something against Lydia and it shouldn't be the case. I felt uncomfortable how she attacks Lydia yet she is expressing reality.

[@Keenytravels]

I totally agree with you!

[@sherrymaina6005]

💯

[@miriamchepngeno1514]

She is really not understanding that people have different lives. For lydia its just a story of majority of women

[@traceytotio]

@@miriamchepngeno1514 yes. A true picture of what happens in life.

[@lydianafula9614]

Me too I feel she is just attacking her and trying to be better than her

[@AnnahMwangi-l1v]

Lydia has conquered her wisdom

[@nuttahmumbi]

The lady sitting next to Lynn is so beautiful ❤

[@lifeinitscolours4206]

Lydiah is so mature, never once allowed herself to be put down and was so honest with her experiences

[@marywairimu6919]

I second this.... very strategic wise..... Mature...... informed... I love her already ❤❤

[@annnyambura7612]

The lady on yellow top is such a vibe and real this one is for keeps

[@abigaelwanjiru2952]

Lydia is articulating issues as they are on the ground 🎉🎉🎉🎉 awesome story

[@marywairimu6919]

🎉🎉🎉

[@untamedsafaris5003]

Lydia 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you've killed the show. You are true reflection of the situation on the ground. Watu hawapendi ukweli but you've nailed it

[@Marbera206]

Lydia you are so authentic. You need your own show. I love your honesty

[@lydiahodhiambo5748]

She has her channel

[@tabbyjeff9080]

​@@lydiahodhiambo5748anajiita aje

[@Evemuiruri_]

Getting a good man is our Father's assignment. He matches you for His purpose. When a man knows your Father He will definitely discern who you are. The most beautiful thing l have experienced in this world is when a man knows you are his wife. It doesn't hold much if you are a King's daughter, a super woman or a shy girl he will do anything to have you. Nothing shall intimidate him. Another powerful tool for women over 30 is to work on yourself being the right partner instead of looking for Mr right. Go for therapy, deal with your wounds, strip off your warped ideologies, work on your relationship with God and warm up for a man whom the lord has prepared for you. Stop chasing men & acting desperate. Many miss good opportunities because of unpreparedness, toxicity, unrealistic expectations/standards & wasting time knowingly with users. Being over 30 is actually a strength because you are mature & focused. Dont allow street talk define you- let your purpose speak for you.

[@AnnahMwangi-l1v]

Absolutely 💯 tht is the wisdom we need

[@Jojo-pv3uf]

God does not choose our spouses for us. He did for Adam and when things went wrong we saw how man blamed God. The Bible says a man shall leave his parents and FIND a wife. Not find “the wife who God prepared for him”.

[@nyashisaboki5927]

1111¹¹😊

[@nyashisaboki5927]

⁰⁰

[@winskitchen.602]

There is always a pressure at your 30's when you are not married and no kids, but people tend to pretend that it's ok, but it's not OK, come and ask me, I got married at 35 and I know how it is.

[@amazingbeatrice9228]

Lynn next Friday, bring a panel of men in the same age bracket tusikie from them as well. Add a pastor there as well..

[@LynnNgugi]

Coming soon dear🙏🙏

[@chefvivy5704]

I totally agree.bring them on

[@Herhealingtouch6683]

Why add a pastor? We have enough catch up at church

[@Ndeumona-Scho]

Agree please🙏🏾, we need to hear the male version

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

wacha mambo na pastor, let the discussion flow

[@mercykalendi]

I like how Lydia thinks! She may have made some mistakes in her past, but a smart person learns from experiences! Kindly talk of women who want to be child-free, different panel but include Lydia. Thanks

[@WorldStagee]

Lydia is amazing....she is showing us her wounds as she shows us her growth ...very relatable! The with dreads comes out lacking conversational skills. She could have communicated her story or experience and people who relate to her could have learnt. Overall good conversation.

[@anifamango6756]

It's because I really didn't have a traumatic or bad experience to share... I have exes of course, but most of my relationships ended on a good note, it's either we were not a good match or not aligning... But I don't have the toxic relationship experiences that most people have because like I said,when I dropped the three week relationships I just knew it wouldn't work... And currently I am in a very healthy thriving relationship... So it's not like I didn't want to share my experience, but I don't have a bad relationship experience to share. And I totally understand why people think I am not relatable ... But sometimes I say maybe I am just lucky I don't have a lot of toxic relationships like most people do. But I appreciate the feedback, will make improvements on conversational skills. There's always a first time for everything.

[@WorldStagee]

@@anifamango6756 you could have shared that.... that's all am saying. Doesn't have to be bad experience

[@jennifermcwhortet7934]

​. I totally relate with you. Every case is unique I like your vibes.

[@woniwa]

Allow people to have their lived experiences and stop being self-righteous @ miss advocate. No one knows everything, if we did you all would not be on that couch. We figure it out as we go along and sometimes, we get it right and other times we get it awfully wrong. . . and can even repeat these negative experiences to our detriment. That's just life and how we learn. Be humble!!!

[@emilynasieku9005]

Very true

[@RosyKilele]

That is masculine energy at work

[@ShekainahMutisya]

Hanifa is treating this like a courtroom, and it's not. She should appreciate that people have different opinions and experiences, without trying to counter or object to everything. The other two are very reasonable and pleasant to watch.

[@LoveRaeH]

I agree. I struggle to take people seriously when they speak in absolutes, and expect their experience of something to be everyone’s. The condescending way she speaks to Lydia is bothering me and I wish the others had intervened more. Life is not black and white. What is ideal is different from what is lived daily. I’m glad Lydia stood her ground.

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

Hanifa did a better job. She countered the toxicity in the comments of the other woman in yellow

[@benahgichimu2733]

I thought so too... Wah,

[@peacepatience]

She is afraid of talking about herself and or her failures. She tries to hide behind others by acting therapist and idealist.

[@fideliswangui5759]

​@@peacepatiencei think his man is watching and he does not want to spoil the relationship

[@ambitius23genius]

Lydia is very honest and we appreciate , me too am on my journey to self awareness and am not apologetic to saying no to directionless relationships

[@charitykinya1864]

Lydia Wanjiru is so real..❤ May God help and remove the confusion in single ladies life esp those in their 30s

[@annwaithira5158]

Exactly she's so real

[@ichooseviolence2532]

What confusion? They should just heal and find better partners

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

she is real.. but her ideas lean on the toxic. The other panelists did better

[@naomigatwiri8621]

Lydia Lydia Lydia should be interviewed alone,she’s real/authentic and a whole vibe !!!!

[@malikavogis]

I just love Lydia and her way of viewing things,at 30s it's time to fix the mistakes you made at 20s.having a career as a woman is very important.dont follow what the society is doing,,just do you.

[@esthernjeri1744]

🥂

[@artatheart5700]

Why must a woman have mistakes that should be corrected in her thirties? this throws a woman off the radder. men settle down in their thirties while a woman starts to correct her mistakes. women should learn how to avoid mistakes that wlil need correction at a point in their life.

[@christinemungai2159]

Lydia was on point and very relatable. Haniva uko world gani aki coz that's not ours.

[@moureenbabirye9089]

Kudos to Lydia For she has shared with personal experience and one is able to learn from her

[@njeps584]

Lynn and the Girls, great conversation ❤ I am a born again Christian. I got married at 31 years. I am 53. I agree with Anifa,the Lawyer. one should not move in with anyone, man or woman, before the marriage covenant. Take time to know yourself as Anifa said. Know exactly what you are looking for in a marriage partner. And yes,as the Lydia said, let your prospective partner know what your deal- breakers are , ie ,what you can't stomach, eg infidelity and domestic violence. And for marriage to make sense, the manual is the Bible, coz the manufacturer of something always knows Best how it should work...So God started marriage and He tells us how to relate in that marriage..if both husband and wife obey God, the marriage is sweet. Marriage is a beautiful thing...but it's a journey..between marriage and being single for life, I would recommend marriage, any time ,unless one has a calling from God to be celibate ❤

[@wambuinderitu2461]

Wow 😊I love those insights

[@bettyngari]

i agree

[@Tmacpherson]

I admire these ladies for knowing what they want…There are a lot of unhappily married people…It’s better to single and happy than married and sad..

[@fanischao9398]

I really love Lydia, she's very geniune.I will really love to see her again ...

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Soon 😍

[@storiesoftriumph]

Lydia has a good head above her shoulders. She is truly in touch with reality...Anifa has text book theory..and thats okay, but life isnt Black and white. There are plenty of grey areas and especially with relationships. Relationships/ Marriages are so personal.. there's no one size fits all. Great conversation.

[@wamgitau92]

I agree that life is not black and white. Chart your life but in pencil. You will erase a lot along the way.

[@At.254]

Lydia wanjiru my all time favourite tiktoker..big up

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Thank you ❤

[@Luxury52items]

@@getnakedwithlydia❤🎉From New York.

[@kainikakidz63]

@lynn i agree with these ladies. My hubby is my number one support system. He pushes me to heights i didnt know i can go to. He believes in me in ways i cant even imagine....

[@naababes8242]

Love, love, love Lydia ❤. Lynn, thank for bringing this to us. Enjoy listening to the show. The only thing I I would like to see changed is interpreting from the local language to English for from other parts of the the world 🙏

[@lilychepkirui9947]

Lydia my girl is saying the truth she has been through alot Lynn host her alone and give her your platform to pour herself out, infact amewahi niachia her house in Nakuru and moved in with a maasai guy only after a month i sent her fare kurudi😂😂😂😂she can attest to this.but am happy to see her grown like this.wish you happiness Lydia.

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Aaww kumbe uko hapa. Thank you ❤

[@eastafricanbuzz]

@@getnakedwithlydiaSuch a vibe! Definitely subscribing to your channel!

[@rosemuriithi1516]

As a woman, let people live the way that works for them. If going 50 50 works then good, if being a house wife where the man is providing 100% then its still fine. As long as there's no disrespect or violence. Kos i believe every marriage or relationship is a manual of its own.

[@pennymbata6666]

True.

[@johnnyngure2817]

very true

[@damariszuckschwert9489]

💯

[@sheilaalice811]

I agree

[@lindas4562]

For me , yours is the best comment.

[@JM-dg6fq]

Lydia, continue calling it like it is🙌

[@priscillahnjuguna6783]

Just as Hanifa is saying,you can tell whether a r/ship will work as early as 1week when you are aware of yourself

[@audreyinyanje1266]

Anifa❤️❤️❤️❤️i love how she thinks....how she answers....how she is so self aware...how she makes you feel you are responsible for your own decisions and actions❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂😂lovely

[@anifamango6756]

Thank you. That's what we are encouraging... All parties should hold themselves accountable

[@rosegichohi7457]

When we talk of favour it means it follows you everywhere Lydia we need you back in this platform you are so real ❤

[@JJones-oh3dd]

Lydiah got me rolling on the floor😂 She is the type of"bitter truth"❤😂

[@jeniffermbithe6821]

Lovely conversation❤❤❤❤. Real life examples by Lydia. She is nailing the points out.

[@ABITOO1]

If you read the Bible on who a wife is and what love is and what submission is ,and if we get to kñow each persons role in the family we will live together in family

[@kazmorich]

Lydia, Lydia, Lydia...you will kill me with laughter and this gal is upfront and her opinions are so practical.

[@marywairimu6919]

Very strategic ❤🎉

[@wilfredletio]

I think men are misunderstood. We are attracted to feminine energy in a relationship. Just as women aren’t attracted to feminine men, men aren’t attracted to masculine energy in women. Its NOT about feeling intimidated. Also, Kenyan men and women have become dangerously uncultured.

[@wycliffepoet5201]

Balanced and fair commentary

[@sharonjumba4648]

Makes sense.

[@fluffybunny7408]

True

[@Luxury52items]

Love❤this comment.

[@jeddymoon3803]

Strong women don't have attitudes they have standards

[@LynnNgugi]

We love this❤❤

[@peterkironji4959]

Exactly

[@vikeke1782]

Standard after they've been run through

[@harrykipkulei1238]

@@vikeke1782, they are running away from what they used to do, lack of standards.

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

@@vikeke1782 🤣🤣🤣which standards? How have these 'standards' helped them. Say 'walls' not 'standards. They have learned to build impossible walls

[@Herhealingtouch6683]

On this one I choose peace , the rain started hitting us when we said let's empower the girl child , let's see her rise , what did we do ? When we thought we were doing the most amazing thing we forgot the boychild , we left one big gap that will take years to bridge ....The boy child isn't weak ...The boy child has been forgotten and we need to refocus to remind our men they too can rise up . That is how we can have a balanced peaceful family...note : there's nothing wrong with an empowered woman it's a plus to any man ....but arrogance and disrespect is a problem in majority of set-up... where the boy child is slowly fading away .

[@Hot_PlateVegetarianMeals]

Agreed

[@dorcaskutima7439]

@lynn , let me tell you something waah, at 23 i had 3 children, no job with an abusive partner all in the name of family, mind you my sister at that age she had a career , lands, car and renting her own apartment doing good. she eventually got married and very happy. mimi marriage broke and am picking the pieces now at 39 to build my career and finances,, womeeeeeen, grow you the marriage life will come. Someone asked me if my sister and I are from the same mother coz they could tell a big difference..

[@vivianikanzuakhura9945]

Woyie

[@sharonjumba4648]

Sorry Dorcas, all the best in your pursuit for growth.

[@rehemabonareri45]

Each lady does offer unique energies✨ Lydia does represent progressive growth and she captures how things are on the ground. She is aware of her past mistakes and has clearly learnt her lessons👌. I feel Anifa is coming off a bit strong because she probably understands herself and achieved 'self-awareness' earlier on and insists on crucial points which people need to hear, I can feel her advocacy energy💪. Rose is so composed and mature, more of a listener and when she talks she gives solid points!💯 I am wondering what is this vocabulary of "real" man or woman?...Anyways, it's great to hear these lovely ladies and looking forward to the men panel!

[@RosyKilele]

Real self-awareness comes with empathy because you understand that even yourself you are not perfect. Anifa lacks that

[@rosengure8079]

When it comes to friendship, they’re friends who are there for a season, some for a reason and others who are rooted… distinguish them and don’t confuse them.

[@blessedmoureen3736]

This was a good conversation, Lydia is a whole vibe. I can't wait for the next Pannell with men and them

[@patriciadavido6463]

Waiting too

[@karenagufana6928]

Anifa is speaking the truth, when you are self-aware you know what will work, and what will not. It is important to be selfaware.

[@anifamango6756]

Self awareness is the key... Most people are saying I am out of touch with reality because I depict a perfect picture and appear self righteous. But I just don't have a bad relationship experience to share with people to be honest. However I totally understand why I am so unrelatable

[@karenagufana6928]

@@anifamango6756 Before I became self aware I used to really let BS slide. Right now I don't play,I realized I matter and even if someone has money or looks desirable but don't relate to me the way I would like to happen I go my way. At times we keep blaming people for our misfortune especially in relationships but we forget that we are the ones that made the decision to ignore the red flags despite seeing them on the first day

[@kerenkeren3486]

This platform has really built me,I find amazing women here,God bless you Lyn with yr team

[@mercyprecious]

Lydia is telling the truth, the nyash and money society narrative is very true , everything has changed unlike back in the days, things have evolved .

[@marthakiiru8016]

Trueee..naa cjui colour

[@rosewanjiru909]

Marriage and having kids are not the ultimate goal in this life, to me married or not kids or not,happiness is the ultimate goal

[@KettanAdhiambo]

Lydia is so real

[@gospeltunez5123]

Wow thank you Lynn for this 🙏.. Bring us pst T. Its been long. He may be rebuilding something

[@emmemm6634]

The lady in dress has some good points and some delulu vibes and holier than though vibes. Kuna vile her energy is ot giving honestly. personally cant be friends with her type. she is entitled to her opinion though

[@doreenogola]

My dear anyone in 30's watching this, please especially women, put in ur mind that in this age u should focus on having a family, success and everything u want musidanganywe

[@lizzibekatongo7212]

Marriage is not the only goal to heaven

[@doreenogola]

@@lizzibekatongo7212 u must be a teenager answering this or hook-up person so I have no time to change words with u sorry

[@lizzibekatongo7212]

@@doreenogola l am 31yrs.... heaven is the goal 😁

[@doreenogola]

@@lizzibekatongo7212 heaven is awesome everyone wants to be there but remember u was created to fill the world

[@faithoyuke4105]

Self awareness, therapy and to stop normalising what is wrong is my take home. Thank you ladies nice talk. 😊

[@peninaapudo5396]

Hanifah, you’re not in court you keep objecting Lydia’s view. Give your view without having to try hard to put oppose her the entire time. You act triggered, her points are so valid and it’s the situation on the ground.

[@sadelshiko7210]

Thanks for speaking my mind

[@ardentsister115]

True. I love the fact that Lydia was not demoralised by that. She stood by the truth and never attacked Anifa. I feel like Anifa is with 100% intention to attack Lydia.

[@charitychihi843]

Totally agree. I think Lydia's self awareness journey is very evident and beautiful to watch. She is comfortable with her vulnerability, owns her mistake and growing from them and it's clear she has become empathetic and understanding of other people vulnerabilities. Very emotionally intelligent❤

[@seritahsunshine845]

Lydia is so real and honest. She is speaking what exactly is happening kwa ground..

[@annewanjiru7985]

The advocate came off as judgy, in my opinion she talked to Lydia in a condescending manner, i was soo triggered honestly

[@stayhealthywithdot9969]

Me too, very triggered by the way she was addressing Lydia.

[@lilywhite8029]

The truth hurts

[@joanwangechi7774]

No it's not judging Lydia hasn't been aware of her attachment style and co-dependency pia this are things that make us attract some wierdos

[@loved77413]

True. Lydia's EQ is on another level. The way she combined humour and maturity to handle Anifa's self-righteous, codescending, and judgemental attitude deserves praise. While Anifa might have said some truth, people need to understand that it's never about what you say, it's how you say it. Knowing the right words to use is a skill. Someone else who's emotionally intelligent would have said the same thing and it would have come out friendly and empathetic instead of sounding like an attack on Lydia.

[@intica2372]

She spoke the truth but her tone wasn't the best. I also hope she's speaking like that to herself too.

[@kelvinmaina4357]

As a single man in his 30s ,,,,,am financially well.....but ladies if you dont learn to submit whether you have money or not......... we will die all single

[@a_k3730]

Men should also learn to love and honor women. Submission is easy when a woman has been loved right. Plant love reap submission.

[@phillipsidhojapap1461]

@@a_k3730 how about plant submission and reap love. You seriously are ignorant that men value increases with age. We can get what we want the older we get. So learn submission early on ama you'll be like these women

[@cathycyrus306]

😂😂😂😂

[@maddisonblue3620]

Women submit to men who treat them well, (not necessarily financially but In all aspects)

[@Jojo-pv3uf]

@@phillipsidhojapap1461if men are the head aka leader, what comes first? A leader leads first then gains followers. You don’t demand people to follow you before you start leading. In fact, people choose their leaders based on the leader leading by example. So asking a woman to submit when you have not shown her love is like asking a school to give you a degree when you have not started class.

[@martinotieno2965]

Anifa is my star ⭐. She's espousing this thing that everyone would prefer sweeping under the carpet, 'THE FOUNDATION'. If the foundational fabric is wrong from the go nothing else matters, it'll all come tumbling down!!

[@felistusmuli7054]

I like anifa too

[@sammietakeff8186]

She is literally the best 💯💯

[@nellyresian3289]

I think people are overreacting with this whole dating/marriage issue. Marriage is all about timing. When the right time comes, both the man and the woman will meet and get married. Marriage is beautiful. Both men and women are beautiful. Let's not tarnish marriage or make it a very complex matter. You can meet with a stranger today, and get married shortly after.

[@lindas4562]

Spot on!!

[@saadiathomas4145]

Lydia seems to be the youngest in the bunch so her measure of thinking has crossed eras and therefore it’s different. Should she get married I.e. if she chooses to, that man has to be intelligent, open minded and progressive. I like her personally. And all the ladies by extension. 🙏🏾

[@Godschild1277]

Lydia Wanjiru is just the best 💓💓 Afungue youtube channel

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Iko. Get naked with Lydia. Thanks ❤

[@PhoebeOgolla-e3c]

Rose has nailed it, be realistic in dating bit by bit a good thing will finds it’s way. ….stop looking so hard.

[@akotheffie8087]

Interestingly once someone has made peace with staying single is when they are actually ready for marriage. Lydia you are on the correct path

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Amen and thank ❤

[@stayhealthywithdot9969]

Lydia is the real deal, quite calm and in touch with reality, very mature. I really did not like how Anifa was attacking her, and trying to show how she is better/wiser than her. Anifa is quite shallow and delusional in my opinion. All in all Lydia any day, everyday.

[@peninaapudo5396]

I totally agree with you, she didn’t give us much content. She’s portraying the pick me character.

[@tonyn3320]

I completely agree. Anita thinks because she is an advocate she is better than the rest. As a well up financial stable educated guy in diaspora I would go for Lydia anytime honest and wife material.

[@florencenyoike7527]

Thank you Lynn for bringing these conversations to us. At 60+ I'm learning a lot. Very outspoken 30s and 40s who know what they want and are ready to work towards it. I love how Kenyans are now ready to talk about their stories.. Thank you for giving us a platform to be vulnerable in public. I hope people are learning as I am

[@harrietjenkins1007]

Thanks for this conversation. But truth is truth. Ms Lydia and Rose are more real on the ground situation. Ms Anifa is more on assumption or trying to put in therapeutic ideology. Let us be real. Take your pick.

[@Sal-uh4dw]

Please bring the panel back especially Lydia 😂she's the real one.

[@catherinemulumba9975]

Hanifa is disrupting Lyd life is dynamic and people have different experiences.Dont force people to believe your opinion. Candid conversations are great when we dont attack each other and we are open.

[@lucynn]

LYDIA can hold an effective conversation,,she has good communication skills and is a good listener..

[@cathy_qate]

find what works for you. am in my 30s and have been married for the last 8 years. My husband doesn't expect me to foot any bill, he takes care of literally everything. I think it comes down to your character as a woman, are you comfortable sitting with money in the bank and allowing your partner to pay for everything? He may not necessarily need it but I think it's a good gesture. Good show!

[@wanjiruwambui1]

Dig deeper. Help-meet is a very loaded description. The Holy Spirit is a Helper - start from there; provision is not about bills - it is way deeper than that, we have men that can provide food and pay bills but do not qualify to be called husband according to God's definition.

[@berthabessyphiri4422]

Lydia was very honest on this discussion

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Always. Thank you ❤

[@davidogweno5427]

What an insightful conversation! Hearing it from 4 different women, including Cynthia Nyamai was so refreshing. I love the diversity of thought and expectations from the girls and I know that our God will fulfill their hearts desires. Good job Lynn and team. Thanks for refreshing and authentic content that is relevant for our context. 🙏

[@PhoebeOgolla-e3c]

Family is important, one will realize this during sunset years and the last jacket you wear will not have pockets!!!!!!

[@clairewere]

Lydia is so real, raw and self aware. It's refreshing. Absolutely love it. 👌🏾

[@maryannwrites786]

Lydia is authentic and so funny I love her.

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Thank you ❤

[@getnakedwithlydia]

Thank you ❤

[@marthabitutunilsson9860]

A joined meeting (men & women) will be highly appreciated Lynn. So next time please!

[@victoriabosire4259]

Anifah is not defending the other gender but what she is keen on is having the right foundation from the beginning which is ofcourse built on a consensus .Lydia is also so authentic she just comes out raw.😂. Personally l think they both have a role to play in this conversation.