Women Try To Explain Why Men Are Lonely, Single And Sexless...

Women try and explain why men are lonely and single
Date: 4 Oct, 2022
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00:00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:00:57 women explain lonely, single and sexless men
00:03:29 Douchebag
00:04:20 Crazy men
00:06:48 Modern redpill men
00:09:38 Obsessive men
00:13:03 Men are emotionally starved
00:15:41 Destiny's toxic take
00:21:19 Girls get turned off by emotional men
00:39:17 "The worst thing you can do..."
01:01:57 Content creators and toxic messages
#destiny

[@schmittywerbenjagermanjens2649]

For me, the thing that put me off from dating, at least for now, is the this pervasive attitude that a woman’s time and energy is more valuable than mine. You hear a lot of these girls say things like “men need to get their shit together and treat a woman right” and it’s like yeah I don’t disagree, but when do I get to be treated right? It seems like as soon as you meet a girl, you immediately have to start proving to her that your even worth her time, but she doesn’t have to prove shit to you, and you only get “treated right” once you “earn” it. I’m a human being man, I deserve the same respect and compassion that is afforded to anyone else, so why does it feel like this relationship is so unequal right from the start and I constantly have to prove that I’m even worth treating properly? Feels pretty bad man ngl

[@takamori11]

god youre so fucking right it hurts

[@LLwrldLL]

That's generally how it's always been. Men have always had to prove themselves worthy to women as women are the picky sex. This is fundamentally the way nature intended us to be. The only problem in the modern day is that chicks seemingly want their cake and to eat it too. They want to be picky and have double standards (which is fair to some degree because men and women are fundamentally different) but they also want to be praised for a hypothetically enlightened/transcendental and morally virtuous position as well. Can't have it both ways.

[@MrWowihatemylife]

Im a human and I deserve to be loved just like everyone else

[@civilengineer3349]

You're a man. You need women, they dont need you and in your case they dont want you. Isnt feminism great?! Do you feel the progress yet?

[@other2291]

To me you sound like you never dated before, or never had a decent date... Have you ever actually listened to a woman when you go on dates? You sound full of excuses.

[@theguyspodcast5782]

I don’t think destiny actually is looking from the prospective of an average guy

[@Quiestre]

because he isn't. he lives a 0.01% lifestyle

[@theguyspodcast5782]

@@Quiestre I know

[@spammer5530]

​@@Quiestrehe went to an all boys school, had cystic acne, and was a wagie and was still sexually active.

[@frogery]

i just don't care. sometimes i feel bad about being part of the statistic of "lonely single sexless men" but the truth is that i have no motivation to seek out a relationship.

[@YoutubeCommentor1]

Basically the mindset I've had since getting out of my last relationship back in 2012. Probably was a good thing I just focused on self improvement since then because I've done pretty well for my age. It does get annoying though whenever I go to family gatherings and get shit for being 30 with no kids and no wife.

[@wiredvibe1678]

@@KZbinCommentor1 there is a societal cost when men can overcome or endure extreme lonliness.

[@TheParaxore]

@@KZbinCommentor1 I had the same mentality after splitting up with my ex after she cheated on me. I focused on self improvement and making sure I'm not settling for anyone mistreating or trying to control me. The end result was me finding my now wife of 8 years and landing my ideal relationship since it was built on mutual understanding and open communication of needs and expectations from day 1. Be true to yourself and don't settle for women who are not what your looking for in a relationship and eventually you will attract the right person. This is of course assuming you know how to be a respectful person and not cringe like the guys destiny describes who are emotionally needy. Make sure you get that stuff taken care of with friends or a counselor first so you can understand yourself first. You should go into a relationship needing something from the other person.

[@alecstepczyk1986]

I used to have a similar apathy, but as I thought more about it I realized that my apathy was a sort of coping mechanism. Might be worth considering why the motivation is gone.

[@DTreatz]

Colttaine: _Why would you even want a woman_ 💊

[@vidzorko4492]

Destiny himself said that if people cry in his vacinity, he can't take it, and has to leave the room. So much about his emotional maturity lmao

[@Arms2]

good point

[@TR13400]

He also says that guys who are OVERLY emotional are a turn off to women, but not by men showing emotions in general. And then later he goes on to say that he doesn't have problems with women and his emotions because he "doesn't show them". He is not addressing the purpose behind the need to hide his emotions, even around people he loves. However useful or even morally correct it is to do you cant deny the fact that men are conditioned to hide their emotions because it makes them look weak, to women, to their children, to the world.

[@Alaric11]

"men are turned off by eagerness" is the most incorrect statement any human has ever made

[@harryseaton7444]

They can be. I'm no alpha chad type, I have definitely been turned off by overly eager women

[@XTreMeHunTer98]

No but overly eager for both men and women. Being too forward can be off-putting.

[@szilagyimiklos4757]

Thats bs

[@yining200]

It’s not that men are turned off by eagerness, it’s that most men learn that most women don’t act wager unless they ulterior motives

[@hatmangates883]

@@harryseaton7444 True! Hell, even as a virgin desperate for love I was weirded out by this HOT girl approaching me way too eagerly online (this was almost 20 years ago, so it was a different era). However, nowadays I'm also turned off by girls playing the aloof-game and/or not having the balls enough to go after what they want, whereas I've suddenly become attracted by girls that told me of their interest without reeking of desperation. The middle-ground is where their best game is at. Any other smells like either side of co-dependency.

[@sk00pidis]

Ok, this one wasn't it. Disregard the milionare streamer in an open relationship, who has been cut off from the average human experience when it comes to earning/dating/forming relationships for years, when it comes to this shit.

[@deshawnmartins8206]

Imagine taking advice from a dude who has exclusively dated his orbiters for the past decade, dude has no relevant dating advice past dating like 3 girls from his high school in 2008 lmfao

[@lizardjoel]

And a guy who is in an open relationship something openly disrespected and not taken seriously by most of society then feels the need to call 90% of men worthless and shit when 90% of men wouldn't consider his relationship the type a man keeps. It's blatantly hypocritical and insecure.

[@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686]

@@lizardjoel I don't understand. How is calling 90% of men worthless whilst having an open relationship insecure or hypocritical?

[@lizardjoel]

@@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686 Because far more people find men with open relationships to not be real men or that they are beta etc I don't agree but it's hypocritical for him to be emasculating other men to feel better when he chooses such an unpopular lifestyle himself

[@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686]

@@lizardjoel so it’s the fact that he chooses an unpopular life style that makes the claim that “men need to get their shit together” hypocritical?

[@lizardjoel]

@@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686 don't shift goal posts we are talking about as you said last comment him "calling 90% of men worthless while having an open relationship". This isn't about if they have their shit together or not most people are works in progress it's about him calling them useless and name calling maybe out of pent up insecurity idk why you would, after becoming successful with women I gained empathy for lonely and average men not losing it so to me it screams insecure is all.

[@dickjohnson8983]

my problem is that women dont give what they expect back. i would bet my life and the lives of everyone i know that none of these women have ever approached a guy first in their lives

[@Haywire5714]

a few things: a lot of men are gonna be clingy and desperate because meeting women is just massively harder these days depending on your circumstances, so not really their fault. Secondly being funny, or being good at talking to women, or not being clingly/desperate doesn't guarentee success; in order to have success you have to have legitimate opportunities to meet women which can be extremely hard to come by depending on your circumstances. I'd wager to say that most guys in their 20s/30s are pretty normal/decent when it comes to women but they just don't have many opportunities so when Destiny is shaping his opinion about this from the perspective of what his girlfriends tell him he's not really getting an accurate representation of this bulk of men. Lastly women can make tons of mistakes when it comes to dating and it doesn't matter, however every mistake that man makes can mean the difference between continuing with a woman or getting ghosted (especially on online dating because of the extreme power imbalance). Overall i'd say dating will only get worse, men will act worse as their desperation increases and women will become even more selective than they already are which will eliminate any chance they have of finding a guy that they're compatible with.

[@TheParaxore]

I agree mostly but saying it's not someone's fault for being clingy and desperate just because it's harder to date women is a bit black pill. Everyone can improve themselves and mature. Personally I was very similar as a teenager but by the time I was 22 and had already had a failed marriage and I realized I needed to put myself first and be comfortable being independent and work on my weaknesses. Only then did I cultivate the traits needed to be receptive to a relationship with my now wife of 9 years. Before her I turned down several potential relationships due to incompatibility. I think a lot of guys are still in that desperate mindset and will try to date anything that moves for the emotional connection. Leading to horrible relationships with toxic women or even women who are just not a compatible fit. This turns some men jaded when those relationships fail when they should be learning from them. Also women do these things as well they just don't typically have to be as desperate since relationships are generally easier for them to attain.

[@lizardjoel]

@@TheParaxore dude already having a failed marriage at 22 makes you extremely outside the norm for modern people in the West that's the average age of marriage for our parents or grandparents maybe but if you had longterm dating and then marriage before you hit 25 and can legally rent a uhaul I'd say your lived experience is so outside the norm that you are most likely as incapable of understanding these guys issues finding women to date as they would understanding your issues as a multiple time married guy.

[@lazysnorlax3015]

You make a good point for your last part of ur comment is so true an average dude with not a lot of options are willing to see pass a womens red flags like being clingy or creepy behavior while the reverse isn't true. If a girl thinks ur a creep even if u make a bad joke thats taken wrong she will most likely ghost u. But for good reasons they dont wanna date a psycho that could potentially hurt them(Obviously this is anecdotal but still true for many) Overall creepy or clingy behavior from any sex is not excusable to me if she doesn't seem interest they must move on and work on their flaws. U can't force a girl to like u and being clingy makes things way worse.

[@jameverywhere]

Why would women get more selective? We get lonely and want partners too.

[@spaceT999]

What are you saying? Go grab groceries, gym or anywhere there's gonna be girls???

[@andrewgrime8389]

I HATE this conversation so much. My main problem with the topic is that people aren't being truthful with themselves and the people around them. People tell half-truths and it's the most annoying shit. For example when a woman asks something like, "Why won't men date me?" she isn't asking why men IN GENERAL won't date. She's asking why a specific group of men that she WANTS to date won't date her. Or women lying about the reasons they won't date a guy - "Well, he's too nice and too good." or "I didn't like this very specific, random thing about him." or some other goofy shit. The other thing is that idiotic men who act like women are literal goddesses and they will do anything for them are also a big problem. Also, the worst thing you can do is listen to an Internet Man who looks like a hobo with greasy hair giving you dating advice that doesn't apply to him because he got extremely lucky with his career choices.

[@hmkhgx8068]

@@spankbuda7466 Destiny(girls name) was successful with women before he became big, had a wife then divorced and had a kid with another girl all before he started streaming. He isn't perfect but he is the best to listen to on the internet.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

@@hmkhgx8068 But that was before the internet became so big that people don't hang out irl

[@oxycuntin2059]

so how has your own way been working out for ya? seems to be working for him

[@WhoBlah21]

@@hmkhgx8068 Before his streaming career blew up, Destiny only had like 2-3 known partners and married one of them out of high school and this was before social media became prominent. From the little he spoke about his past, he wasn’t a Casanova traveling around the country slinging d**k. I would argue that if he was still working at his carpenter job, he would’ve been been incel-adjacent by the time social media and dating apps blows up

[@bizzarroworld2123]

@@hmkhgx8068 Cope

[@hhhhhhhhhh1919]

i'm a woman and i 100% know that that girl is talking about the stereotypical douchebag. destiny's just making up some definition for her lmao... in what world is a guy who has difficulty communicating, "lives like shit," or is "obsessively creepy" the definition of "douchebag"? if she meant a loser, she would have said loser. she's talking about dudes who constantly want to disrespect women and disregard them as human beings. and tbf, i disagree with her. women stay getting tricked lmao

[@Rappatiligoe0419]

Yeah Destiny was really coping with his response

[@nawinjinx]

But i have to ask you did you know?

[@iz2333]

I'm a latinx bipoc transversal gamer of womanhood and I 100% disagree with this.

[@sybinn3920]

@@Rappatiligoe0419 I feel like he was spending a lot of time in this video (willfully or not) misunderstanding what comments were saying or changing his argument mid rant it was kinda annoying

[@hhhhhhhhhh1919]

@@iz2333 lmaoooo. hey, i had to make sure i was pointing out that i represent the 2% of viewers hahahaha

[@griffiththechad9483]

Most of the time when a woman tries to explain why men are lonely and sexless their arguments leads to blaming toxic masculinity or the patriarchy so let’s see what these ladies have to say…. Wow. Destiny managed to have even worse takes than these women in the video. According to him the entirety of the problems with dating are on men.

[@peters8894]

Most of the time women end up being the worst perpetrators of the patriarchy.

[@tdackjordan5873]

The problem is their whole world view is skewed, it's 2022 men are more sensitive, and understanding, polite to woman yet you act like men are going around woman grunting, snorting, cussing at them They like to say that men are are emotionally unintelligent is the reason why woman don't want to commit to them but if thier life dependent on it they can't even give us a tangible example of what emotional intelligence is, when I can show you men are more emotional intelligent Yet we still have woman wrighting love letters and asking them to marry them to men rotting in prison who just deleted their wives and children, which I would rightfully argue that is male toxicity And we have movies and books like 50 shades of grey about a top percent business man who physically abuses woman yet it's the number one top selling books and movie among woman Just goes to show you never listen to what woman say because they do the opposite of what they say they want infact they have done studdys on woman sexuality and they chose what's politically correct vs what they really thiy

[@tellmesomething2412]

😂🤣😭 I see what you've done here.

[@tdackjordan5873]

Women find most Men Economically Unattractive Marriage rates are on the decline due to a lack of 'economically attractive' men with steady jobs for single to women to meet, according to a study Could you imagine if a right winer said or viewed homeless people or people who are lower socially economically as disgusting, or a man said this about woman 😂 LOOOL 😂 Could you imagine a system where a millionaire or once person goes up a higher income bracket we end up taxing that millionaire and taking his tax money just inorder to give that money to another millionaire or someone richer instead of the poor, this is why I advise women should not go get a degree or career because it's destroys the economy, job market and dating life and quality of life in general that's why most woman now a days who have a career, are on medication, depressed and deleting themselves When a man is successful or rich, six figures, millionaire they can go marry a "bum" and make her life better take her out of poverty Now when a woman is rich and successful she goes and looks for someone who is already rich

[@tdackjordan5873]

Imagine we are living 500 years ago where majority of woman did not go work and be the bread winners and all the men did that and in one village a couple who got married a man did not work while everyone else in that village the men worked that one wife will start feeling some type of way and start subconsciously resenting that man do to hypergamy of her wanting security she will end up divorcing him even though moderen day construct gives us this corporate Disney story of how romance and love should work Basically today majority of woman are working and and getting degrees so now they view majority of men average basically in their same level as how that one village girl sees her man Especially with the adment of social media, before a chick living in some remote town in Idaho would date whatever guy was in her location now a rich millionaire can contact her and fly her out , and getting messages, likes and now that average woman thinks her dating value is higher than it already is and conflating it with her sexual market value and can no longer want a man in her level until it's to late And being able to view people luxury lifestyle doesn't help

[@Starsky3022]

10:17 I think part of the reason might be that a lot of guys are extremely emotionally starved and as soon as someone is willing to give them attention they go nuts

[@FazeParticles]

that's the whole idea for a simp. he get a little female attention and he goes buck wild and starts catering to her every needs at the expense of everyone else no matter their relation to him.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

@@FazeParticles Yeah I feel like a lot of girls who wanted to act friendly to guys were put off with the fact that a lot of them mistook this for love or sexual feelings so now they act colder. It's a unfortunate set of circumstances.

[@asparrow9876]

@@user-lh7mt7zo7l They asked for this though. I noticed women complaining about men being indifferent, cold and not even trying anymore. Then I saw it with my own eyes in myself and all the other men. That's when I realized they have made a terribly irreversible mistake. It's literally biting them back and we're not losing much compared to what we would lose playing this rigged game. Like a controlled demolition, this is beautiful to see. Because they deserve all that's coming to them.

[@duckbigga3177]

"It's all men's fault, just be funny bro" gee thanks destiny I'm so glad you're providing such a great alternative to the redpill here for your incel viewers, truly some revolutionary dating advice right here

[@R_J8]

Can you timestamp that for me? I didn't quite hear him when he said that.

[@spencerc2139]

bro he literally said in the video why it isn't all men's fault stfu

[@lizardjoel]

It's nuts and getting to the top 20% of guys doesn't alleviate all the anger man you'd think it would be great after struggling to get there but tbh it makes you super jaded and it really tempting to fall into mysoginistic thinking seeing women who would've treated you in the past / how they treat average or below average guys while being turned on more the less you respect them or appear that way. I'm a Zoomer but it's making me jaded and bitter that most women my age in my area act like men used to in the 1950s how they treat the other sex viewing us with 0 or negative empathy expecting us to be stoic gods all the time never faltering or showing too much humanity just chug on provide and die and if you show empathy for men not lucky enough to get affection you get slandered and thrown in the same lot as them by mainstream society desperate to never listen to their pov and eager to humiliate and belittle men not found attractive by women. Also I'm sick of people acting like women never stalk men or harm them or are dangerous/nuts it happens roughly equally in my personal lived experience and yet if you as a guy with trauma don't magically fix and hide all your insecurities or nervousness from it women treat you like a douchebag while often chasing men who are literally abusive it's a clown world sometimes. I used to get treated like absolute trash by women when I'd literally physically risked my safety confronting an abusive man on the street for shoving his woman saying don't do that shit and knowing she then went home to give him time affection and care while I had to be bitter and alone for a few years until I matured into a sexy and talented gentleman who women now chase but Destiny's stupid takes here bring some resentful memories back so I'm sure he's making incels here from men who haven't found their talent/hobby/physical attractiveness yet because it takes time to and we mature later than women.

[@oxycuntin2059]

in a fucked up way youre hearing what you want to hear it wont help you

[@andrewschulz3680]

Destiny is so rich and well off that those traits he describes are just what he needs. He isnt speaking to what most men go through. I aspire to be that rich and well off one day where my views on topics come from that lense of luck, opportunity and privilege.

[@Painted_Day]

I really don't like destiny framing all men as just being douchebags for not being able to get women. While it is true, that more men are probably struggling more than in the past to do some of the basic things (clean house, be funny, be confident) he clearly hasn't even asked himself the question as to why this might be. Mental health problems have been on the rise 40% of high school kids report feelings of depression, and 15% report feelings of suicidality. When one thinks of the symptoms of depression as listed within the DSM 5, and if more men are truly struggling with depression, that would mean they are more insecure, less motivated, and generally feeling more hopeless. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out why they might be struggling with these basic things and therefore, struggling in the dating sphere. Destiny comes off as just another crazy feminist calling these men who are struggling "Incels, Doughebags, Rapists" and immediately rages at chat the moment he gets a modicum of pushback.

[@Painted_Day]

I don't know why any guy would put up with this tbh. He basically is just minimizing a lot of dudes struggles and demonizes them too.

[@Painted_Day]

The crazy thing is he clearly has all of the pieces of the puzzle in front of his face, and his response is that men need to "whine less"

[@loverofhumanity]

Yeah one thing I learned in uni no matter how articulate or smart a guy we all fall prey to bias. This is a perfect example as smart as destiny is his simp for women personality archetype will always override his otherwise logical personality. It's same way someone could be intelligent af but then he tells you gods real and answers his prayers. And your like wtf dude you literally got an A + in calculus how can you actually believe God answers prayers.

[@thanospatrick9093]

I used to keep my room more tidy than it currently is but after 2-3 years of no luck in the dating sphere, it's started to slip. Thats not the only reason because I have large personal issues happening at the same time now, but getting turned down a handful of times and seeing Exes being happier than me just brought me down

[@ivanblyat]

obligatory destiny is a womans name joke

[@trired1729]

girl name comment, i am sadly forced to like

[@TR13400]

@@trired1729 well it is true...

[@frogery]

good one

[@Delta169]

obligatory "BETA!" comment

[@makadoz]

TRUE

[@TheRiiiight]

9:00 95% of men don't have a job or any of their shit together? Destiny thinks men are living in some alternative Mad Max universe lmao

[@desotodesun3449]

meanwhile US is at the lowest unemployment rate since the 70s lol

[@KuroKumo361]

@@desotodesun3449 meanwhile all that went down within a year because of government intervention. Did everyone forget about the world pre coof?

[@knob2974]

Low unemployment doesnt mean less people without jobs. People who are are out of the job market, and are not actively looking for work, arent taken into account when calculating unemployment.

[@desotodesun3449]

@@knob2974 The US also doesn't count its homeless but you don't think of them when talking about "loser men who can't get girlfriends". Anecdotal I know but out of the ~20 guys I've remained close friends with since College only one of them is currently not employed.

[@knob2974]

@@desotodesun3449 Sure, I'm sure Destiny isnt talking about the Homeless. But I am sure she's talking about the NEETs in society. My point being, just because unemployment is low, doesnt mean there arent a lot of jobless people out there.

[@DivineFrag]

I've never heard anybody use the definition that both Destiny and Stella used for "douchebag". Never. The 1/3 sexless men are not douchebags, they're either losers, lack drive, overweight, have no game - whatever else. None of these guys are douchebags - they're simply people who don't have their lives together. And it blows my mind that somebody would refer to them as douchebags simply for not meeting a woman's dating standard when they rarely even approach women. I left this same comment on the original video too basically and had several hundred people agreeing.

[@feliz2564]

Well you have another one but on this video. I agree

[@sebastianjanssen6693]

It doesn't really matter if you've never heard a word defined the way someone specifically defines it when they talk to you. "Women stopped caring about douchebags. And I know that’s not the best word to use, but guys that don’t put in effort and don’t care and don’t want to actually value women for who they are, are gonna be lonely." KZbin: THAT'S NOT THE BEST WORD TO USE!

[@wiredvibe1678]

The blonde experiences doucebags not loosers. Her perspective is all the douchebags that she has interacted with. Idk what Destiny was talking about.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

You can turn into a douchebag as a result of not getting your life together, and I think thats what Destiny is trying to say here.

[@wiredvibe1678]

@@Mr.Coffee576 he's commenting on what the girl means. She means she's been in relationships with douchebags.

[@kurtgarwood8618]

Thing about this video is the girls don’t really understand the question. The people we are talking about are completely invisible to these women and we are asking them why don’t you notice them haha. If you listen they are actually projecting their own frustrations dealing with guys with a overabundance of women.

[@lucaslimma6707]

High IQ comment. This shit is so blackpilling

[@sybinn3920]

Like the douchebag comment, she was quite obviously talking about people who she had dated in the past who it didnt work out with instead of the people who probably arent interacting with her in a non professional setting

[@ALulzyApprentice]

12:57 - Destiny starts talking like he is a regular dude. Yes he is totally wrong. Top streamer tries to tell regular people things about regular life. That is why he keeps saying I think.

[@thijsjong]

Certainly he is a high profile man with lots of exposure. He has an entourage of other streamers orbiting him. The attraction game he has going is a completely different universe.

[@CatotheE]

He was a regular guy before.

[@anthonycosta128]

​@@CatotheETime has changed now also

[@WhatTheCinnamonToastFck]

To sum up this video: "That's not how it is" "That didn't happen" "I don't believe that's what really happened" "There was definately something else you did" "I don't believe it" "Yeah, actually I am going to blame men for this" "No all women are not like this" "lmao yeah all these dudes are like this" What a beta soylord

[@joseluizpereirafilho7222]

i really respect him for other political videos, but this one was a huge L. Man what a shame, he is just a simp

[@fantasyskeep]

I'm decent looking, well kept, educated, make a living wage, have hobbies and I'm engaged. However, prior to meeting my fiance online, every time I ever went out and tried to talk to women in person, I was treated really shitty...

[@idrinkrawmilk554]

Nice profile pic

[@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686]

ah yes the problem here is the anime pfp

[@CatotheE]

@@idrinkrawmilk554 Okay, Aizen.

[@AbuBased731]

Deserved lol

[@halofornoobs93]

I'm lonely because I literally can't talk to women outside of a business setting. It isn't for a lack of trying either or a lack of experience, I just can't do it. I can make sure I am as groomed and well-dressed as possible and it doesn't prevent me from spraying word vomit all over the place. At least the single life is cheap. I have no problem talking to my friends' girlfriends, but the moment it is a random woman, my brain just has a massive disconnect and can't talk.

[@R_J8]

It's totally normal to freeze up around random women, that's a skill that needs extensive practice and we're supposed to learn when we're younger. You can blame all the factors that inhibit learning this skill like women hiding behind social media and men copiuming on video games.

[@R_J8]

@Alberto Valenti Based. @halo, do some cold approaches to shake up that fear and expect to get rejected. When you walk away afterwards, you'll be in turmoil, but I garantuee you will come out stronger and more confident.

[@TrentonF505]

Same. I’ve developed an inability to communicate well after being isolated during the pandemic. I think it just takes practice.

[@wiredvibe1678]

Make more female friends

[@1p0rnstar]

i had the same issue bro its honestly just getting used to talking to strangers. I think if you have these struggles, you put women on a pedestale making it seem like whatever you say is not good enough. Whenever I was out, i made it a thing to just talk to random people with no goal, just to learn to open up more easily. Maybe it'll help u

[@somerando8615]

41:19 "Get a better job, go to the gym. Self improvement!" 47:33 "I want these immutable genetic traits." Cool, I guess I'll just hit the gym until I get more Italian.

[@aydnerelmac7980]

Just grow taller 4Head

[@bobjenkins4925]

Notice how women prefer a guy who's naturally muscular over Mr 2 hours in the gym 5 days a week? It's a genetic signifier. The perception is, if you need to exert extreme effort to be hot, your genetic aren't hot

[@Crissybooable]

Guess you didn’t hear the rest of what she said or destiny but ok

[@ALocalClown]

@@Crissybooable they aren't looking for that stuff, they just went to seethe.

[@brendan6778]

Currently (unironically) pursuing italian citizenship, guess im more based than i thought

[@hannesboos1549]

Have women really become more selective about men's behavior or have they become more selective about men's looks, height and income?

[@ImMakEiTNasty]

Why are people taking advice from a guy who only gets girls because of clout and being a millionaire? Not to mention he is in a open relationship

[@Oppenheimer1967]

How many girls turned you down ?

[@ImMakEiTNasty]

@@Oppenheimer1967 control c control p

[@thelonercoder5816]

these comments are so brutally true lmao. I stopped dating as well because expectations are so high for men yet most women I've been on dates with bring very little to the table.

[@ElementVoidX]

exactly, they will say some shit like "I bring me" aka the cum dumpster vagina that 50 other guys has used before you, yeah i wonder why I won't put a ring on that

[@dhl1276]

As a woman I feel the same way. Though I stopped dating because recently dates are Netflix and chill or hanging out in groups more then time together. From a female point expecting a woman to be on all the time for your male gaze but not instigating moments to actually dress up for a date because so many woman are willing to dress up just to hang out and be looked at. It did not help either I've been told made me an exception wanting a guy to build together as a partner. Or pay for actual dates to not be always around the crowd. Shit my experiences decided he changed his mind and wanted to reconcile his idea was to say he won the lottery as if money was ever part of our attraction that turned me off. If you need to lead with money or gifts you just know you fucked up or yoyr used to a type that excuses your fuck ups in exchange for your money/gifts

[@anubisgod23]

Gotta disagree with destiny early in. He changes the most common definition of douchebag to fit his needs. Likely she meant what he was saying she didn't

[@jacobusdevlamynck1381]

But she doesn't just say douchebag. She gives some characteristics of what she thinks a douchebag is, which does not seem to be the most common definition of what a douchebag is but does fit Destiny's definition.

[@garfieldGG]

She probably did mean what destiny was saying. Usually these types of good looking women want someone that’s a total douche, in our sense, but really cool to them.

[@xpflowexclusive4313]

@@jacobusdevlamynck1381 It most definitely does not fit the definition Destiny presented.... her entire definition didn't even exclusively seperate itself from actual men that have sex. But the point of the topic was precisely ab men who don't have sex. And if her definition can be ab both.... then she's making a generalization error to assuming all of these men are lonely bc of said reason... BEING A DOUCHEBAG

[@Andi_0429]

I heard someone say (probably was Aba lol) that women will claim to like emotion and vulnerability and then use it against you.

[@wiredvibe1678]

Lol a female friend told me can keep my secrets. She said her male friends have told her many secrets. For example, her ex husband revealed to her that he's into incest porn. Yea sure, I'll tell you all my secrets lol

[@alaskantundrawolf8831]

This is probably the biggest game these shawties pull on you

[@isafarooq1721]

It was. I trust Aba infinitely more than Destiny when it comes to relationship advice

[@oxycuntin2059]

@@isafarooq1721 based on what? dating success?

[@thealgorithmluvsu3788]

Speaking from experience, this is true. Not saying all women do this, but all it takes is coming across one to get you to shut down. Honestly, dudes just need to not open up to their girl. Find your bros, or some other outlet.

[@Derpadeedooda]

Destiny thinks girls like him because he's chill. No bro you're a millionaire.

[@alaskantundrawolf8831]

And even then, he still gets publicly cucked.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

Even with the wealth he has to have an open relationship lol. Imo I think this just shows she's attracted to the cash while wanting to fuck dudes she's really into.

[@shadow50HD]

He's good looking, I'd rank destiny a 7-8 facially, but he is extremely feminine and below average height. If he was in the normal world he would do ok. He'd get like a 6/10 asian chick, but that would be the best he could do.

[@Derpadeedooda]

@@shadow50HD If destiny was a normal guy working in the real world he would be struggling to pull a 200 pound girl with 3 kids.

[@cooliest2267]

@@shadow50HD he's average facially wtf 😂

[@JesterAzazel]

Destiny acts like he forgot how humans act. OF COURSE a woman isn't going to straight up admit that a man crying is a turn off, because they realize how shitty that sounds. They're going to spin it to make it look like he did something wrong, like how a woman might accuse a man of stone-walling her because he didn't immediately text her back. I'm sure this trauma dumping shit happens, but sometimes it doesn't and they just say it does.

[@oxycuntin2059]

maybe they didnt think it was a turnoff? not everything in life is a gender-wide conspiracy?

[@WapitalismandWreedom]

"Trauma dumping" is just another way of delegitimizing men's feelings and emotions. How often does a man opening up end up being about how the woman feels about hearing the news and the conversation ends with the man catering to his gfs emotions instead of his own? Women believe their emotions are more important than men's, and they don't have the patience for men's emotions, hence labeling it "trauma dumping."

[@dxshawn532]

Yeah I wanted to point that out. Its a neuro divergent take to imply that just because a woman doesn't explicitly say something it means she wasn't actually bothered by it.

[@omarisawesome1996]

I think it matters what youre crying over. Ive cried about movies, sports results, deaths, ect. You gotta try to be stoic with the relationship issues, crying over that makes u look bad.

[@omarisawesome1996]

One thing that i think works is to chill out before bringing up a relationship disagreement or argument. Dont start discussions heated and then you wont get all emotional.

[@Hemlocker]

People need to be way more careful trying to get dating advice from the internet. Most people are just gonna recount the things that worked for them without critically analysing why those things worked or whether it's advice that's applicable to most people, or comparing their experiences to others. Very few people who give advice do it in an objective, critical manner. Another negative effect of chasing dating advice is that you can easily get overwhelmed by the number of different things that you seemingly need to do to be successful: you need to be confident but not arrogant, emotionally available but not trauma-dumping, interested but not needy, attractive but not vain, hard-working but not overly so, and so on. The truth is that nobody is going to get all of these things right all of the time, and trying to consciously do all of them at once is just going to overwhelm you and prevent you from being naturally yourself.

[@ALForb]

This is true, and why the only true advice in the redpill space is stop simping and focus on yourself, not in order to get women, but to find some peace of mind.

[@ImMakEiTNasty]

You are right but at the same time you can’t compete if you don’t try to have all of those things. It’s hard to be yourself when being yourself puts you behind

[@dickjohnson8983]

If you dont see a difference between being more emotional and trama dumping then you might want to talk to a therapist

[@Hemlocker]

@Dick Johnson If you mean to say that there are a lot of men who don't know how to be emotionally available and would benefit from therapy in that regard, then yes I'd agree.

[@asparrow9876]

This is literally why men throw their hands in the air and say "I'm done!!" then go MGTOW...... I never spoke to my friends about the red pill yet they all reached the same conclusion I did

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

I mean it's one thing for women not to want to date unemployed uneducated guys, but Destiny knows full well women have extremely high standards beyond what they themselves have accomplished. A woman working at Starbucks isn't going to be happy with a guy that works at Starbucks.

[@BeatFuZion]

Depends on woman. I worked at a resturant when i was around 18, and plenty of couples there who worked together or had partners in the same business (same shitty salary).

[@retroblue69696]

she’d be happy with the guy that owns the starbucks

[@jameverywhere]

Idk man I know lots of couples that make about the same income.

[@chanlaoshi8634]

Is this really true? When I look at me and my friends who are in relationships, most of the time the man and the woman are around equal in terms of income, education etc.

[@foodsupply5071]

@@chanlaoshi8634 That is my experience too. To be fair most relationships I have seen come from work or studying together and not online dating but all relationships I have seen in my social surrounding usually start to exist by proximity and that means coworkers or university peers

[@lastnamefirstname8843]

“I feel like men are really hard on women these days” Tell me you’re completely disconnected from reality without actually saying you’re completely disconnected from reality.

[@lizardjoel]

Yeah I'm getting tired of that stupid pov when 60% and climbing of college grads are women, the media praises them for brave choice at all weights and appearances while men are required to lift more and more to stay in the top 20% of guys who aren't chronically lonely. And it's cringe as fuck that he's avoiding or trolling about a Peterson debate while doing braindead e-dating shit or defending pokemane in videos I was really enjoying the aba/sneako/muta arc this lav and random knees on both side of their head overly makeup wearing wealthy e girl hour long convos are burning me out of his content making me go on rumble and shit to find entertainment lol.

[@WapitalismandWreedom]

it has literally never, in all human history, been better to be a woman than right the fuck now

[@KagaSSJ]

Literally 400k andy saying that, smh

[@rodiculous9464]

@@WapitalismandWreedom yeah ok so being close to equal when your whole history is being treated like dogshit doesn't make destiny's statement incorrect

[@WapitalismandWreedom]

@@rodiculous9464 women are currently equal to men with respect to rights. I don't buy the whole "women were treated like dogshit for all of human history." That's completely dependent on culture and context.

[@braunana5395]

Not a great start when destiny immediately pauses to go on a huge rant only to immediately be proven wrong in the video.

[@braunana5395]

Rest of the video is fine.

[@ChaosKnuxxx]

I gotta agree. She went and clarified the exact kinda dudes chat was talking about. "Doesn't put in effort, doesn't care", but he can't understand that? Odd miss from destiny

[@joseluizpereirafilho7222]

@@ChaosKnuxxx trully odd, doesn't sound ike him. I think he was just trying to be the modern cool guy and don't lose points with the girls

[@aklokoth]

Nearly every time I bring up my emotions to my wife on something she has done it always gets flipped to being my fault, maybe it is maybe it isn’t. This has reinforced what I learned growing up. Bottle negative emotions inside till it dies inside.

[@benjaminwatson7868]

Nah man I force her to realize she’s wrong not physically but argumentatively, I learned from the best, my parents, I learned to argue

[@nigelharvey640]

You have to call her out on it. I know it’s crazy to have to do that, but that’s the only way this shit changes. Affirm your right to be angry about a situation and tell her to treat you like someone who is hurt and needs support. If she needs to know what that looks like give examples, spell it out. If she can’t do that, then definitely don’t ice out your emotions. Let resentment take hold and let her know the dismissal of you emotions are a deal breaker. If you ice yourself out, you’ll deal with this forever. I’d rather gamble the relationship. And it work if they actually see you with any empathy.

[@aklokoth]

@@SkeleTonHammer yeah I remember that stream. I specifically played the section next to her to get a reaction haha but she didn’t entertain it.

[@arthurporter131]

That does not sound like a healthy relationship that is set up to last through the years my duder

[@electron6825]

@@aklokoth The negative emotions don't die; they'll become a resentment that slowly poisons you if they arent adequately resolved. Hope you two figure things out. And a good starting place might be getting her to at least understand your feelings, even if she doesn't agree that she shares culpability.

[@persianguy1524]

When they say douchebag they mean careless chads dude, not losers lol

[@metroidfoosion73]

Yep, and guess what, girls still love those dudes. It’s the normal guys who are going without sex because they’re passing all the rich “douchebags” around

[@idimo7976]

Even the douchebags he describes in his examples are obviously not sexless, which is the only thing being talked about. 4:33 "...normal guys that people date..." (as opposed to famous ppl) "...get abusive after dating them" If being a douchebag doesn't prevent you from being in a laid, then men being losers/douchebags/insane doesn't necessarily contribute to the 1/3 sexless stat, which is the only thing being talked about in the video. What "not caring about women" means it that you fuck her without committing, or in Destiny's own words you "become abusive".

[@loverofhumanity]

Lmaooooooooo yeah anytime a woman talks bad about men in dating "all men want is sex", "all men cheat' etc. She's talking about Chad.

[@loopymomy2532]

@@loverofhumanity true

[@FazeParticles]

@@loverofhumanity losers don't have the luxury of being in a women's social circle unless he's a useful tool and maybe after 10 years she might give him play after giving chad her walls. so losers only have themselves to blame here. they should stop buying in to the feminist system because clearly losers won't ever get play unless you count play even after 10 years which i don't because i'm looking at this from a society building POV and we can't afford tens of millions of men not getting play. that could lead to revolution.

[@mavericke8945]

Honestly L take. Love how Destiny has insane levels of critical thinking in any area aside from love and relationships. With takes like this and not to mention a terrible take on what a douchebag supposedly is, it's no wonder anybody would flock to redpill community at this rate and they'd be better off too

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Yes the redpill community centered around victimizing men, bashing women and whining about the ‘establishment’ is really going to help you lol.

[@thanospatrick9093]

I feel like him self imploding whenever relationships are brought up is some sort of cope to being in an open relationship. You can't really get a feeling of pride or superstrong connection when your wife can go and get her guts rearranged by Chad down the road or can go and fuck some random chick anytime you want. It may not be conscious, but on some level I think he feels unfulfilled in his relationship because it isn't a special thing when others can join it

[@hypn0tic38]

She literally follows up what she said with guys who don’t put in effort, care, or value the women as much as they think they deserve. He interpreted it as she said. Where’s the issue?

[@mavericke8945]

@@hypn0tic38 So it seems you agree with the typical definition that we share. Where as Destiny argues in the vid it is a person who doesn't take care of themselves, has no social skills/lack awareness, etc. This is what I would simply call inept, a loser, or bum. These terms shouldn't be conflated whatsoever. Furthermore why are talking points on dating always skewed towards guys being the problem & needing to take sole accountability. There's plenty of issues lmfao

[@b_ail1999]

Nerds like destiny shouldn’t give relationship device, regardless of experience.

[@maniac50ae14]

"Just brush your teeth bro" "Just take a shower bro" "Just wash your clothes bro" "Just be cocky funny bro" "Just iron your clothes bro" "Just workout bro" "Just be nice bro" "Just have a life bro" "Just value her bro" "Just show interest bro" "Just have your own place bro" "Just have a car bro"

[@maniac50ae14]

modern dating advice

[@folklorefanatic7193]

Emotionally stable /= emotionless. That is the mistake that keeps being repeated. Being stable means you express vulnerability *at appropriate times.* I'm honored when other human beings trust me enough to express strong emotions or secrets or personal problems, period. To me, weaknesses are the inability to emotionally regulate, a lack of compassion or empathy, and being closed off from your partner.

[@virginboy3d78]

i honestly think emotionlessness leads to really bad shit, highly emotional men can be repulsive but keeping everything in is what causes people to go postal

[@lifeyoushouldtryit]

@@virginboy3d78 so options, be emotional and loose everyones respect, whether they tell you the truth or not. Or lose your fucking mind

[@viceanterra3]

@@virginboy3d78 honestly, highly emotional women also repulse me. I know it's women's nature, but a woman not being able to handle her emotional chaos I find really off putting. Moreso if it's a constant pattern in her life and she's doing nothing to regulate the issue.

[@benjaminwatson7868]

What’s stoic then

[@benjaminwatson7868]

@David Jones but making no judgements in either direction shutting down your emotions

[@huddi94]

It seems to me that many people put the blame entirely on the woman or entirely on the man. I think the video covers the more common shortcomings of men. At the same time, Destiny sort of skipped over the ease of access to opportunities, which is devastating for the self-esteem of any average guy who tries to date online. As a top performer, obviously Destiny is not affected by this, so he may not understand the issue. I have a girlfriend, so I am not speaking from a place of desperation. I believe that online dating is simply not the best choice for an average or below-average man.

[@longstachkaido240]

yeah destiny isn't relatable especially with that every girl has 2 stalkers thing but imo that's more of an american thing

[@colinchristensen4398]

This!! It’s stream lined rejection absolutely destruction for self esteem and then for women MOST of the time it’s a huge ego boost so the gap gets crazy

[@wiredvibe1678]

Online dating is shit full stop

[@clonical1044]

@@longstachkaido240 considering that most woman he knew are streamers, im not really surprised

[@Oppenheimer1967]

It’s not women’s fault guys can’t get dates lol

[@furyberserk]

Destiny, on the day my dad died, I cried alone in my room. His gf at the time and sister came in and ridiculed me for near an hour about stepping up and not being so weak. I was doing half the bills with him while his gf provided nothing. I burnt those bridges years ago. It was the only time I cried in years. God forbid I morn my father.

[@sneakers_guy5488]

I'm sorry you had to go through that, that's really shitty of them to do :/

[@ALocalClown]

That seems less like a woman thing more like a psycho thing.

[@richardhands904]

Chin up bud, they are toxic people. You did nothing wrong.

[@johndwyer1445]

Bro your sister?? It was her dad too wth is wrong w her??

[@Dzillarable]

on top of ridiculing you, one mistep in the dating world is the end. its like a series of 0 sum game with no maneuvering room. say the wrong thing on the date, over. have a rough period, over. not as respected? over. change your view on something , over . showing vulberability on losing a significant other? over.

[@nicholastomanica1972]

Destiny is really in the clout bubble of dating where girls offer them selfs up to him because of his status. If its as easy as he claims to just walk up to a girl and talk to her and boom your in the top 90% of guys then id love to see Sneeko take him to a random bar at a random town and have Destiny try to pick up girls just by cold approaching them like 99.99% of guys do. Everyone knows how that would go. He is the country club socialist of the dating market debate scene.

[@austinglaze5415]

You telling me without the clout women wouldn't be all that interested in a disheveled, physically unimpressive and spastic charisma vacuum?

[@AaronD313]

@@austinglaze5415 charisma vacuum lmao

[@SayCheeseAndDie01]

Facts^ this. Online dudes telling us to just be more funny lmaooo. I want to see destiny try in real life he would get exposed!

[@TinKnocker69]

Wasn't he doing alright before the fame though?

[@nicholastomanica1972]

@@TinKnocker69 not a chance. He was working at a casino, Once he got a tiny bit of fame he fell in love with the first e-thot that gave him attention like a pure simp and knocked her up like an idiot. Then she took his kid.

[@ethanmason5570]

"Men need to be more emotional" Also "Men are trauma dumping!" I don't even know what destiny thinks most Men should be doing anymore

[@GG-vl9xq]

Didn't he say the men have to earn that vulnerability by not being emotional all the time. That's not contradicting. A man doesn't want a woman who's emotional every day too. It's a general rule: try to proces your daily emotions yourself, but the times it's after something significant bad happened, you can be emotional with your partner.

[@bobbyz9052]

When women say they want a man that's emotional they mean a man that gives them emotional updates. You never tell a woman how you feel until you've already implemented a solution. If you tell her sooner then she'll use it against you in an argument later on.

[@jasonu3741]

@@GG-vl9xq If your only allowed to be emotional during traumatic events like your parents dieing... than you are not having an emotional response... you are having a traumatic response those are not the same thing and using your parents death really needs to stop being people's example of someone being emotional. If you hear a terrible story of some childs suffering and you are saddened by its news you are having an emotional response If you are shot and think you are going to die while bleeding out you are not having an emotional response... that is a traumatic response

[@bodhisilva7251]

Destiny’s tryna explain why men are lonely, single, and sexless?

[@desotodesun3449]

Very much coming from a different reality than the average man's life.

[@user-es4lp3kp2w]

Get ready for shame, insults, guilt, and the need to be right. For some reason destiny correctly identifies that the above is useless to motivate people and actually demoralizes people, but men make for great punching bags and are the exception. As an average, normal, level headed man, everything is put on you, ESPECIALLY the failure aspect. Women will likely never have to be in the most risky part of approaching or attraction. Physical harm sure, but most guys aren’t slobbering creepy rapists who will follow you home; that’s just straight up misandry. Awkward? Sure.

[@bodhisilva7251]

@@user-es4lp3kp2w dude get over it it’s just a fucking woman. Like chill out brother it’s not that fucking daunting to approach a women I’d fs b more scared walking around at night as a women. Also not every man has to be a creepy, sycophantic, rapist for women to have 1 bad experience or their homies having some bad experience to make them feel less safe maybe it’s not rational but it’s kinda understandable. Please stop coping, go outside, prepare yourself for rejection, and take a fucking chance. It’s really not that hard and gets easier the more u try. Keep telling urself that I jus wanna be right and continue to fooling yourself. it’s that fucking scary to talk to a woman tho. It’s not. Sorry if you’ve been hurt in the past; that doesn’t have to define the rest of ur life my g.

[@starsky1012]

More and more men are solely depending on social media or dating apps to meet new women. How do you show off that you're considerate, have a good job/doing well in school, you clean your room, your bathroom, your clothes, you cook actual food and that you shower every day in six pictures on Tinder? He's more likely to keep a girlfriend but he's not more likely to be immediately attractive than a guy who's much better looking with the slightest bit of charisma whose life in the background is falling apart.

[@loverofhumanity]

It doesn't matter tbh. The issue is the high level men will continue to use those and women will continue chasing those men. It makes no difference to women if the bottom 95 percent completely got off the apps because they're not actually going for those men anyway. If anything it would just fix the "bug" in dating app feature in women's eyes because they won't have to thrift through all the low value dudes. The only way for dating to go back to normal is if all the people including the high value men and women as a whole stopped using social media. They would never do this though as long as they believe they're benefiting from these apps.

[@Crissybooable]

Yah online dating is not great .

[@starsky1012]

@@loverofhumanity The latter person I was talking about isn't even high level. It's just someone who can make a good first impression. From my experience, they're rarely able to date anyone for long when their life is falling apart. I'm just saying he still gets way more attention than a guy who has his shit together but doesn't make a good first impression

[@loverofhumanity]

@@starsky1012 yes I agree. That's my point though. Our biology has decided that the only thing that matters once security is assured is looks. Hence, in our modern day world high value actually just means good looking. I didn't mean high value as he knows how to dance and juggle better than everyone in his neighborhood. I just meant high value as in the good looking guys will always win out as long as they remain on social media and dating apps women will continue to stay on those apps and thirsting for them. It's biology.

[@ALForb]

@@loverofhumanity you’re right about the primacy of looks if we’re just talking about the dynamics of dating apps. Not all women are on dating apps (the good ones tend not to be). In the offline world, status is more effective than looks. I don’t mean financial status (though that obviously helps). Being held in high regard within a community is a big deal in the eyes of a potential mate. And given the social nature of our species, status is as potent a marker as looks in terms of genetic selection.

[@Highwynd]

I have an abundance of respect for Destiny and rarely disagree with him about anything, but when it comes to relationships, women and dating advice, I just disagree with virtually every point he makes. In my experience women have little to no patience or respect for emotional men. I was dating a girl for 6 months and my dog died one week before she broke up with me. I cried a couple times and was really fucking sad and then she dropped me like a pile of soggy garbage. When Destiny says the vast majority of men live like slobs, lack social skills, are man-children, speak to women like she's their mom, etc it's a problem. Let's assume it IS true, even still, this is the same thing most guys hear from women, parents, social media and many social circles they live in every day all day long anyway. We're constantly told we're trash, and the level of determination a guy needs to overcome the barrage of negativity instead of succumbing to it and giving up is more than most dudes for whatever reason can muster. Please don't mute me, I just needed to speak my piece.

[@BeatFuZion]

Destiny is a different type of man. Shouldn't take his dating advice serious cuz he clearly is not like the rest of us.

[@iluvbbw6911]

Honestly, I'm not a neat freak but I grew up with 2 sisters and have a gf and they're significantly more messy than I am

[@viceanterra3]

This might sound like cope, but frankly, if you cry over some serious stuff and you're girl drops you, she's doing you a massive favor. She saved you a lifetime of belittling you for being a human being. I'm married now but I've cried in front of my wife before we got married, on multiple occasions for serious family trauma shit. Early on she started off telling me how odd it was for her (she clearly didn't like it) and I basically told her it wasn't gonna change and if I need to cry over some heavy stuff, I will. I wasn't an ass about it of course but I'm gonna cry on occasion. It is what it is. She could take it or leave it. I suppose I can say I'm lucky she just stayed with me lol. But there's zero chance I would have stopped just cause she found it off putting. Crying is cathartic when emotions run high. It's part of the emotional regulation process. If a woman finds it off putting she's free to leave 🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@randomhuman2595]

The majority of women aren't going to leave a man just because he cried when someone he loved died. If he is crying all the time like a baby then maybe yes but not if it is at appropriate times.

[@Sushi_bar]

Wait are you saying girl dumped you cause you cried or you think it was a bad timing because you lost your dog?

[@FlynnMTaggart]

Wanna know why I am alone and lonely? Cause my ex wife drove me to almost kill myself and I'm absolutely terrified by someone I believed loved me drove me to that point again. Possibly for me to finish the job. And I hate it cause I am truly lonely...

[@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716]

I’m so sorry this happened to you. Please get some therapy. ❤️

[@dazza761]

What about ur bois, or did she alienate u from them

[@RealBullbear]

Enjoy your freedom of mind.

[@shadelightss]

Yeah there is lack of trust between the sexes

[@wiredvibe1678]

In japan prostitution is legal

[@darklucas0721]

Destiny is so fucking lost in that first "douchebag" segment lmao. The girl literally proves him wrong mid rant.

[@nowie4007]

true

[@Daxel134]

I was shocked he tried coping that hard for no reason at all. The word was so out of place for the topic.

[@sharkwang1542]

Nah he was on point. She contradicted herself later sure, but based on what she said up until that point, he was right. Dudes out here not washing their butt because they think it’s sus. Just overall gross mofos.

[@GoodCopsBadCops]

@@sharkwang1542 Nothing destiny said was wrong, but his entire argument was based on that being her point, and like chat rightfully noticed, it wasn't lol.

[@neubaufahrzeug9339]

@@GoodCopsBadCops It seemed really clear what she meant when she said douchebag so yes he did say something wrong. It seemed he took in his idea of a loser guy is and tried to make it fit in with what she thinks a douchebag is.

[@zirvster2011]

you sound super out of touch tbh. reducing the issues to men being too emotional is wild

[@superblack898]

really frustrating to see destiny just soy out every time women are involved in a conversation. It's actually chronic now, lol. "It's super toxic to make this distinction between girls that you would date and that you would have sex with" meanwhile doesn't comment on the girl talking about leaving her options open on her side.

[@ElementVoidX]

yeah sadly he suffers from SBC.

[@superblack898]

@@ElementVoidX sbc?

[@leadfaun]

“I've had women tell me to man up and I complain too much.” Destiny: “Then you must've been complaining too much.” criiiiiiinnnnnnggggge

[@AllMad111]

GIGA CRinGE! Many such cases throughout the video.

[@grinkiller2]

Some people do complain too much because that's all they do. Being emotional as a guy doesn't mean that you should dump all of your emotional baggage on your partner.

[@leadfaun]

@@grinkiller2 and the anecdotes presented to Destiny weren’t that.

[@novac1990]

@@grinkiller2 More and more I see men who think society should value them the same as it does women. It does not and never will. The faster men accept that the better off they will be. The path forward is not for men to become weak and vulnerable but stronger and competent in there own lives for themselves.

[@brandon1138]

These women in the beginning are saying men need to put aside their pride and do what needs to be done to make a woman feel loved, but that 9/10 times is never reciprocated. Men for decades have been taught to love, care for, and provide for women from a young age, but women are no longer being told how to care for and love men. Women are taught they are a prize to be won, and they need to put in no effort to deserve to be fought for. Were constantly telling women they don't have to take care of their body because they are beautiful no matter what, if they cheat its the mans fault because he wasn't enough to satisfy her, if she gets emotional and physically assaults you, you got to just take it because your a man and she's a woman. Growing up my father taught me how to be a "man" and do the things women shouldn't have to do. When the garbage needed to go out, I asked why couldn't my sister do it, they said because that's a mans job. When they needed the dishes done I asked why couldn't my sister do them, they said shut up and do what we asked. The hypocrisy is out of control, rules for thee but not for me is a phrase that often comes to mind. I no longer think women are worth caring for, loving, or providing for. Not until I meet the 1/10000 that understand that all relationships are about give and take, I have no problems doing things that need to be done, as long as I feel it is being reciprocated.

[@wiredvibe1678]

True

[@ImMakEiTNasty]

It’s crazy how Andrew tate is able to explain this more properly than you

[@maryamdiao1509]

🦍🦍🦍

[@LetsWriteStuff1]

Aren’t these the same women who said a guy in their mid-twenties should be making 100k or 400k and up, or else they won’t date them?

[@nowie4007]

fair point

[@ElementVoidX]

yeah but Destiny skipped that because it would interefere with his narrative that "women can do no wrong"

[@awsambdaman]

Right like he COMPLETELY ignores what women actually say. If men were saying the things women were, destiny would have no problems pointing fingers at the men. His take here is garbo

[@Mike_Dubayou]

I know atleast 2 of these girls from the aba and preach vids. 1 of them said a man needs to be making at least 80-100k/yr in their mid twenties. The other said 400k/yr would be a pretty safe number. Men figure your shit out. Just go and make 6 figures within 2 years of you being out of college. Its literally that simple.

[@Mike_Dubayou]

aba and preach video "The Rise Of Lonely Men". All 3 of these girls acknowledged a man with a top 1% salary to be 'acceptable'

[@vismvp]

So true, gotta take out the 4 hours of sleep I get a night to make half a mil a year just to learn that Destiny's name, is in fact, a womans name.

[@oxycuntin2059]

nah these girls sound like a hard pass

[@shadow50HD]

"collect the moons and the stars for the gash wound between my legs." Yeah im pretty sure that islam is more right about women then the west is. And that's saying alot considering how ruthless they are to women.

[@asparrow9876]

@@Mike_Dubayou This is why I feel unequivocal joy seeing them cry on camera when they're unmarried, childless and alone in their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies and beyond. Yes you read that right. They cry online with full filters on at all those ages and its absolutely HILARIOUS to see. They're only getting what they gave us all our lives. Pure loneliness and misery. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@keggerous]

This is such bullshit. I'm sick of women pretending like they have nothing to do with this issue. Of course, they do. Women have vastly more leeway in their dating choices than men. Women have climbed up the ladder of relationship choices. To heights most men cannot achieve. They have more experience, they have more value, they can afford to say "no" more than men can. It used to be that both men and women had to settle. Why? Because the only way to find someone available was to date within a limited friend group, go to bars, find someone at your work... Etc. Now, with the dating culture moving online and women have VASTLY more options than ever before, we're seeing women realize that they can basically have the pick of the litter 90% of the time. And I'm not even mad about this fact. I would do the same thing and I think most everyone else would too. It's not a problem in a vacuum, the fact is though, the result of this is a bunch of dudes who don't hit the mark and are basically shit on by women. Every incel I've ever talked to has the same fucking stories. Do you think this is a coincidence? I'm not even going to attack women here, but I think it's important to stop bullshitting and pretending like this isn't on women at all. It most definitely has something to do with how women behave toward certain men. If you don't meet a woman's criteria, as insane as that criteria may even be sometimes, you'll get shit on and rejected. Probably called a creep too. Men do not behave like this. Can we also stop telling men to just, "Get some confidence" or to "better yourself and further your career, then you'll find someone"... That is such a lame line of reasoning. If these guys could do that, they'd have done it by now. Do you know how men get confidence? By getting attention from women. It's basically a no-win situation a lot of these men are in. They are stuck, 25 y/o, living in mom's basement, never had a relationship in their lives. They are depressed, broke, hate themselves, and blame it on women in many instances for not giving them attention. How do you fix this? It's like finding a drowning man in the ocean and telling him, "I'll only be able to pull you into the boat if you can swim to me and help pull yourself up because I'm not strong enough to pull you up alone"... Which sounds good until you realize the guy has been treading water for days and doesn't have the energy to swim or to pull himself up anymore. If only the person in the boat showed up a day earlier, maybe things would have been different. A lot of these dudes just need a chance, but I don't think they even deserve one, which is just sad. They have become so anti-social and so resentful that they wouldn't even be able to handle a relationship if one was thrust upon them. Nor can they even attract a woman at this point. They've forgotten how to talk to people who aren't their mother. Not to mention the mental trauma they'd go through the moment said relationship blew up in their face. Either women start sucking random, fat virgin's dicks or this problem isn't going to go away. LOL. Obviously, I'm joke but I'm sort of not joking too.

[@feliz2564]

Amen brother. Also that last part man😂

[@blagovestaivanova3829]

So again women have to solve this issue for men I thought yall were stronger and smarter yet the weaker sex has you on ur knees so much so that ur only solution is having women preform sex work bc you can't be bothered to make urself likeable to atleast one woman Pathetic

[@rap1d715]

facts brother

[@wiredvibe1678]

Make female friends

[@blagovestaivanova3829]

@@wiredvibe1678 based

[@DontReadMyUserName_]

Don't pander to anyone. Express your interest and if it's not mutual keep it moving. EDIT: I've had women stalk me and become extremely clingly within the first few weeks/months. One was a doctor at West Point and I literally had to threaten that I would report her to the hospital she worked at to get her to stop.People are crazy, women are no better.

[@oxycuntin2059]

BASED AND DATINGPILLED

[@electron6825]

A doctor?! You should have dated her with the obligation that she hook you up with the good drugs 🤤

[@nerdynautilus5373]

31M - Personal experience: I was emotionally vulnerable with 4 close female friends in my entire life. 3 of them lost respect for me and our friendships fizzled out soon after. I’m still really close friends with the last one. Despite of how painful it was to lose three close friends, I’m still grateful to have 1 real friend I can trust no matter what

[@TR13400]

Destiny: she's right women are not dating DBs as much Destiny: I know a bunch of girls who date these guys who end being DBs. But they aren't dating the DBs though.

[@johnwatts8346]

d bags hardly fully explain the huge extent of this problem, so that bints statement was not 'actually true' at all.

[@tdackjordan5873]

The problem is their whole world view is skewed, it's 2022 men are more sensitive, and understanding, polite to woman yet you act like men are going around woman grunting, snorting, cussing at them They like to say that men are are emotionally unintelligent is the reason why woman don't want to commit to them but if thier life dependent on it they can't even give us a tangible example of what emotional intelligence is, when I can show you men are more emotional intelligent Yet we still have woman wrighting love letters to men rotting in prison who just deleted their wives and children, which I would rightfully argue that is male toxicity And we have movies and books like 50 shades of grey about a top percent business man who physically abuses woman yet it's the number one top selling books and movie among woman Just goes to show you never listen to what woman say because they do the opposite of what they say they want infact they have done studdys on woman sexuality and they chose what's politically correct vs what they really thiy

[@electron6825]

DBs? d-databases?

[@retroblue69696]

lol its like pick one

[@7ars471]

@@tdackjordan5873 nice guy syndrome. as much as a woman who is too nice and clingy turns me off so do men who do that to women. Just be normal and express your emotions on a balanced level.

[@ponternal]

Just make 400k a year bro

[@nowie4007]

lol

[@justthedon1792]

Destiny is wrong lmao , he even admits that his prescription for relationships are obscure and not common , then proceeds to make generalized statements and wonder why everyone disagrees. The irony is something lol , but so is having a girls name

[@henrytomas]

Destiny went from a carpet cleaner to literally having a harem worth of women want him for his money, fame, access to a large platform. He should be the last guy to get dating advice from. It's like taking financial advice from a person who just so happened to win the lottery.

[@leo7beats59]

@@henrytomas Do you think he didnt do well before he was successful? From what hes said on stream, destiny has always done well with women, even as a carpet cleaner. There are pics of him taking a baddie to prom, not to mention he was literally married before he had any modicum of success.

[@dxshawn532]

Exactly I said the same shit. I wonder how he would try to reconcile those two things. He always assumes he's right about these things and will argue it fervently but then say his relationship and circle is abnormal and yet if you disagree you're a redpill idiot and he'll ban you. I think he recognizes that his fame, money and social status us what grants him this privilege but he also recognizes that this invalidates a lot of his opinions on the topic.

[@dxshawn532]

@@leo7beats59 He was married to a woman who literally physically abused him by his own admission but we're supposed to believe he's never had his emotions weaponized? Dude is full of sht when its comes to this stuff. Its like he gets docked 100 IQ points when relationships and women become the topic of discussion.

[@leo7beats59]

@@dxshawn532 You werent payng attention to what i was replying to. Nothing you said contradicts anything in my message.

[@anaelnock2989]

I’m starting to get confused on what men are allowed to do at this point. One chick said on that jubilee(i think it was jubilee) I don’t wanna be a gym couple so men can’t go to gym often, then the women in these videos men can’t hang out with the boys, can’t go golf apparently, we can’t play video games, etc . Then not only that we gotta make a certain amount of money while with good enough looks(including height). But ms 400k a year said women have lowered their standards. 😐 the lies she tells is wild

[@aioli121]

I'm with Destiny that the 400k girl probably just doesn't know what a "401k" is, and thinks the term refers to "a successful man making at least $401,000 per year" because she doesn't know any stats about how much money people actually make.

[@Crissybooable]

Some of you hold on way to much on a few women’s expectations

[@anaelnock2989]

@@Crissybooable the problem is that average woman are having above average wants and some saying needs throughout multiple online videos. So it’s not a few woman

[@asparrow9876]

If her lips are moving, she's lying. They lie like they're breathing. It comes naturally.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

As a High Value Tradesman, I can say with confidence: I'm too busy to meet new people. (I spend 12 hours a day in a metal box using electricity to stick different pieces of metal together -- welding)

[@Johngreggor99]

High value, tradesman: pick one. No school, no high value bitches. Even at 6 figures competing vs 40k andys

[@WastePlace]

My father was a welder, and yeah his schedule was either working or tired and recovering from working. No real time to party and get crazy when you gotta wake up at 3-4 in the morning and work til noon

[@sebastianpuzzle400]

Facts. I do 12 hour nights making steel cable for power lines and fiber optic cable. Six sometimes 7 days a week. Just not enough time😔

[@civilengineer3349]

Women dont want you when youre frew and they wouldnt want you even if you had more free time. Just accept it.

[@MyUniqueHandle.]

Big respect man, dont know how you guys do it. That sort of life aint for me.

[@metalmythology6282]

It's really funny that women display as much or more of the behavior, of not attempting to be funny or entertaining keeping their life together or handle their emotions, yet men seem to be paying for their mistakes heavily

[@clonical1044]

@@sassycaterpillar6631 i mean, everyone has a double standard around these stuff. It likes incel only accept a 10/10 girl while they arent.

[@metalmythology6282]

@@clonical1044 Men who have never found partners don't have standards this high if an average woman flirted with one of these men and tried to date him she would very likely succeed

[@errant3]

@@clonical1044 where? who told you that?

[@clonical1044]

@@metalmythology6282 i mean, the chance of them getting hit on compare to getting a 10/10 girl are both similarly rare.

[@rohanjarande]

@@clonical1044 That just proves you wrong. 🤣

[@lckfan3696]

Another content creator assigning all the blame on men. Classic!

[@shadow50HD]

At the end of the day though it really is men's fault. They gave women rights, they didn't earn them. Because of how safe the modern west has become we have garnered the "privilege" of giving rights to everyone. This isn't what nature intended and we are suffering the consequences for it now. It'll get worse before it gets better. Word of advice don't even try black pilling people, they won't like it.

[@jaredisley-oliver389]

My buddy who is a big nerd but a very handsome nerd. Was talking to me and my husband about his lady troubles. He told us a time he went on tinder. A girl said hi. He said Hi back. Then the girl responded “work on your pick up game” and blocked him. He told us he has accepted his loneliness… He ain’t an incel. He is very much not a red pill type. He just honestly doesn’t know how to connect with women because he spent all his life points into his career and education as he thought was the goal of life. I’m sure he will find someone as nerdy as him in the future, as me and the husband continue to keep his spirits up and not to just give up completely looking.

[@Syk-nz1qq]

Perhaps he would benefit from the Redill. Sounds like he is just bad with women on a social level. He likely has little experience and interaction with them. Also, Redill and incel are two completely different worlds. In fact they are on opposite sides of the spectrum. One group is great with women and the other struggles extensively.

[@jaredisley-oliver389]

@@Syk-nz1qq You assume. He often feels himself To nerdy for girls. And he thinks that is the barrier. I have seen him talk to girls. And he is gold. He just can’t break away from his own assumption from it. I had a friend that had issue with the legs like Walter Jr. did( I can’t remember the name of it) and he had the same issue. He just kinda refused to believe that a women would want to be with a disabled person. Once that ideal was broken he was able to live life normally. He just needs to break his own shitty barrier that he set up for himself as a defence from before.

[@Syk-nz1qq]

@@jaredisley-oliver389 I agree with you. A self limiting belief. Their used to be this channel called RSD ( real social dynamics ) that spoke a lot about “inner game”. It was basically about having confidence in yourself, being congruent in your beliefs, understanding that you are enough, etc. The general premise was that learning outer game is pointless if your inner game isn’t ironed out. Once you are happy with yourself you can interact with women without being attached to a particular outcome or feeling the need to seek validation from a woman. Instead you can just enjoy her company without insecurity.

[@WhoBlah21]

@@Syk-nz1qq I’ll be completely honest, and this is all from personal experience absolutely observations so take what I say with a grain of salt. This “game” and developing a mouthpiece concept is total BS. In order to be confident and to understand that you’re good enough, you need prior positive reinforcement from others. Confidence doesn’t solely come from yourself and will, it comes from how people reflect you. If people praise, compliment and are more positive around you the more likely you’re going be confident. Same goes with understanding yourself, if your love ones supports you life choices and careers path, you’re more likely to have better understanding and acceptance of yourself. When it come to “game” and a mouthpiece, I’m sorry to say but that’s all up to how the woman feel about you. There are Chad/Tyrone types I know irl that are reserved and don’t say much to a woman, and they enrapture. If a girl sees you and isn’t interested from the jump, no amount of game is going to get her interested.

[@Syk-nz1qq]

@@WhoBlah21 everything you said is actually true. Yes there are exceptions to what you said but I’m not gonna waste my time debating the exceptions. The thing is everything you just said is to some extent a very red pill thing. Confidence does come from praise, but in order to be praised you must accomplish something. You have to work on yourself, get in the gym, help others, have strong moral values, strive for Financial freedom, be someone others rely on and look up to, etc. Those are all red pill concepts. I think people confuse red-pill observations with complaints. Red-pill is ultimately about blaming ourselves. We cannot change the world but we can change the little things within our control. We may not agree on semantics, but the concept is the same.

[@michaelmassimino6515]

Once you realize destiny is a self hating man who hates men, everything else he claims makes sense.

[@mrdouche9172]

He has a girl's name. Of course he is a self hating man.

[@peglerbc]

I think the reason so many people are troubled by the concept of talking to anybody is because of too much time not socializing in person. Talking to people in person is a skill. You can talk online and never notice body language changes, the way a room changes when you say certain things. It is greatly appreciated when you can conversate with anyone and can reply back with something that ADDS to the conversation or ask a question that allows them to elaborate more on their interests. If you have ever worked in sales, one thing you learn is how to talk to people, because when you are trying to sell something you may have the product, but the person is what buys the item, thus you have to talk to and sell them on the idea of buying it. This can apply to everything though, If you are trying to get a woman to like you, sell her on your best qualities. trying to convince someone you username is not feminine in nature, sell them on the manly aspects of it. just my 30 cents

[@asparrow9876]

Most men are handicapped from any best qualities because they were raised by women at home, at school, in media, in culture, it's gone way too far and they wonder why men are soft and isolated.... They literally raised us to continuously be hating on ourselves, consciously or subconsciously, and if you don't? Well the world will work day & night to convince you of it. That we're all monsters and the cause of all faults is men, that everything that's wrong in life is because of us OR that we should take responsibility for it.......

[@maniac50ae14]

"Just be yourself bro" "Just take a shower bro" "Just brush your teeth bro" "Just iron your clothes bro" "Just be confident bro"

[@ivansmirnoff6987]

"Just don't be schizo bro"

[@AbuBased731]

>Just touch Grass bro

[@haza123b4]

*How could you forget the cornerstone of the blue pill?* *JUST BE YOURSELF BRO!*

[@maniac50ae14]

@@haza123b4 🤣😅My original post had more but got deleted

[@kielo3867]

tbh if you can't just do these things you propably should go see if there's some mental health/neurological issues. I have adhd and I can't "just do" something the same way neurotypical people seem to be able to

[@TriceratopsUnicorn]

I RESPECT WOMEN SO MUCH

[@bobjenkins4925]

OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO LISTEN TO THESE LADIES SPEAK ABOUT MEN'S PROBLEMS, I LOVE & RESPECT WOMEN SO MUCH BROS

[@feliz2564]

I RESPECT MEN SO MUCH.

[@ExeErdna]

WOMEN ☕

[@iurivanastacio3081]

Yeah man, preach that love, OMG!

[@AbuBased731]

*“I Respect Women So much it's unreal”*

[@despain8726]

One of the most powerful abilities I discovered as a man is the power of crying. Fuck do it in your car. In the bathroom. Cry alone. It doesn’t matter. No one has to know. I started facing my demons by myself in long car rides and would ball my eyes out and wow what a difference it has made in my life.

[@DontEatSmurfs]

its so funny his reaction when the money subject starts XD it went from "they are completely right!" to "OH NO!"

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

Yeah the start of this video was a fucking L for Destiny. These women who work retail aren't looking for guys working retail, they're looking for guys who can take them out of their current lifestyle.

[@Kakerate2]

@@user-sk4ds1rg1z Most sure, but not all. It's kinda like sex, you don't want to find someone and make them want you, you just find people who already want to fuck ya

[@followthebrickroad6518]

@@user-sk4ds1rg1z Lol no. Retail is worked by a lot of young people. Those women are most likely in college or something. If what you’re saying is correct then no guy in college or works meaningless jobs can’t pull.

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

@@followthebrickroad6518 All of these women looked too old for college to me, but I wasn't saying they specifically worked retail. What I mean is that women will earn far less or have a much less meaningful job than they expect their potential partners to get. You see that in this video: there are women who want a guy who earns 100k by 23, 400k by 25. It's totally unrealistic and they don't measure up to this themselves.

[@followthebrickroad6518]

@@user-sk4ds1rg1z I understand that women expect a man to have money. But if you ask someone what they prefer it’ll be much different then they actually go for. Dudes in their early 20’s with side chicks or long term girlfriends most likely don’t have high paying jobs or even live on their own but get girls. Women in poverty or more than likely to meet a man in the same social economic class because they dont hang around wealthier circles and that’s who’s in their environment.

[@madeyez]

Average women don't want average men no more.

[@kingkunta3753]

ngl, destiny will never have the problems that the average man has with women so when he's like "women simply aren't like that that would NEVER happen its so unlikely" so frankly his words aren't useful

[@faeiger9215]

Exactly, like the women who deal with him will be on their best behaviour, he got clout and money.

[@schwarg]

"Having your shit together" just means having money, let's be honest.

[@stephenthedude4383]

yeah unfortunately

[@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716]

Nope. As long as my boyfriend can pay for himself and I can pay for myself, we are good. My boyfriend makes a very low salary, but I’d love him regardless.

[@colinchristensen4398]

If you have a bunch of money and no social skills your shits not together if you have a great job and no time to clean your house your shit isn’t together if you can’t deal with your emotions well you don’t have your shit together. It’s deeper then money bro

[@rayquaza1245]

@@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716 so it means having money lol

[@clonical1044]

@@colinchristensen4398 to have a long term relationship, sure, you need to be much more well put together. but to land a date or some short term stuff, you basically just need money and a decent looking suit.

[@odisspunkmyer]

I met my wife off one of the dating apps a few years back. Listening to our friends both guys and girls talk about dating the reality for most is expectations of what a partner should bring to the table has been elevated to an unrealistic level. Way to many young people are expecting a higher standard of life from a potential partner while not really bringing anything to the table to match those expectations. You see it in these videos as well. The notion that a young person in their 20s is going to be comfortably clearing 6 figures while also maintaining a work/life balance is incredibly unrealistic. Those people who fall into that category are going to be hyper selective about who they want to be with as they are living a very accelerated professional lifestyle.

[@jonathonharlan5709]

exactly, if you're making 6 figures in your twenties, you're the top 5% of your age group and working 80 hour(+) weeks, (likely including Saturdays and many Sundays), eating and sleeping.

[@asparrow9876]

That's why they dry up, end up alone then begin making crying videos on Tik Tok and Instagram about how lonely they are and they're as invisible to men as men are to women 85% of their lives.

[@candyyytcmc236]

i find it odd that there isnt a rise of lonely sexless women like if theres all these lonley men doesnt there have to be atleast a decent number of women aswell?

[@TophinatorStreams]

There would be, yes, but I think those women prefer to be sexless when the “leftovers” option is so toxic. Insecure men. Isn’t that the prelude to future wife-beaters? These girls aren’t exactly looking for “free eye-shadows” if you catch my terrible drift.

[@mitragyninethespeciosa6891]

They have sex with the same men

[@handsomebear.]

Every one of Destinys examples of women not being turned off by *_vulnerability_* is always like _"If someone for no discernible reason, right infront of your eyes, repeatedly crushed your dad between a concrete block and a wrecking ball until he was a pulp of blood and bones and you shed 2.5 tears over 1 week and then got over it she's not going to look down on you bro relax."_ ??????????? ;v

[@HebiNoMe]

Yeah lol. Sad movies can make me cry at times. Who cares lol. Let me. Doesnt mean i'm "EmOtIoNaLlY UnsTaBlE" lmao.

[@wolfvonversweber1109]

It's the usual caricature of men to bridge the gap between the professed feminist ideal of men and the reality of male role expectations. If male "vulnerability" needs to fit female expectations, it isn't accepting genuine vulnerability, it's just an additional standard one needs to live up to. How do so many men have bad experiences about opening up emotionally? All crazy and unstable? It's like the 50s, when women complaining were told they must have caused it with their own behaviour.

[@knightimer2]

"If you are insecure about your job, just get a better job." Lmao the shit storm if I told a woman that if she's insecure about her body she should work on getting a better body.

[@L12crox]

Hard to give advice on how to pick up women because they treat men so differently depending on how attractive they are. An attractive man keeping eye contact with a hot girl in the street will get a much different reaction to an ugly guy doing it; one is sexy and shows confidence and the other is creepy. You can get away with so much more if you're attractive.

[@GG-vl9xq]

But the thing is: you're also looking at that girl because you find them attractive. So what makes it wrong for them to only pay attention to the ones they're attracted to too?

[@L12crox]

@@GG-vl9xq Nothing wrong with it but men are the ones who are expected to pursue women. Not being approached because you're ugly and being rejected because you're ugly aren't the same thing. It's much more personal, and demoralising, to be outright rejected than never approached.

[@GG-vl9xq]

@@L12crox I honestly get that. That's frustrating for the ones who aren't born that attractive. Just don't think that now we have to force every woman to give a chance to every persuar. Because the one who persues is also choosing based on attractiveness. It's like in movies/series where the nerdy guy is in love with the popular/hot girl and is super sad about it. But he's also only attracted to her because of her beauty.

[@dalodulo1373]

It does strike me destiny is being incredibly charitable to women on this topic. "It's not a woman's job to fix you or make you work emotionally as a man, you have that shit sorted out before you start dating" That sounds fair until we remember we have to deal with trauma from women's past relationships all the time. We gotta hold that? Come on now. Edit: After a bit I have to make this edit. This was me being unfair to what was actually said. He did speak against this sort of behavior on the women's end. This is a separate topic that this one brushed itself against. And its one that's a sore spot for me. I was wrong and you can consider it a retraction.

[@ecta9604]

Sure, as partners you can work through things together, and that can make them easier to get past. That’s 100% a thing. I think that the toxicity enters when people look at relationships as a solution to their personal problems *in and of themselves*, instead of as a thing that makes solving those problems easier. If I have some issues with my personality I should be working on a strategy to fix them that doesn’t include getting into a relationship as a step.

[@dalodulo1373]

@@ecta9604 Agreed however this is one of those things that doesn't particularly effect one gender over the other. Women do this as well. I'm just saying that destiny came across as particularly callous on the mens side here. There could be some context I'm missing as to why that is. But the closest I'm hearing him give on as push back on the women's side is the Miami girls.

[@skoomaenjoyer9582]

Has destiny argued that women’s past trauma be the burden of men before? Genuine question because i dont think he would, when he mentioned that women who spontaneously cry and show no emotional stability pissed him off i think he’d apply that idea to both ends. There are reasonable amounts of working out that can be done by either end of a relationship, but when a man with unsorted emotional instability simply cant stop texting a woman or divulging very personal information, it can be something often missed by the dude doing it. Thats why i think its important that it’s at least brought up

[@dalodulo1373]

@@skoomaenjoyer9582 If that is indeed the case I would be willing to retract but there are certain assumptions I have to make on that. And it doesn't feel like that's the rub here. Like I said though, if I'm wrong I'll take that back.

[@skyandrews2613]

It depends on the type of person/relationship you're looking for. I don't see anything wrong with men or women sharing past traumas, because I like helping people and I see it kind of as a cry for help, they probably haven't gotten to talk about it in any other instance and emotions have to be processed and released so they're just doing it with someone they barely know but not everyone wants to do that on a first date I think is what he was saying. You can definitely find different types of people though, people that are a bit more emotionally open likely have no problem listening to someone vent (people vent to me all the time and I like giving advice so I don't mind), and some other people find that to be very off-putting which is also valid, just different types of people.

[@Darklordiban7]

I think Destiny isn't wrong that trauma dumping on girls has been an issue. At the same time one thing I've noticed is more women put in zero effort. There's a decent amount of them who will type one to three word responses, never ask you anything about yourself, and expect you to carry the entire conversation. They won't initiate anything. It took me a while, but I've had to adopt the system where I'll give at max two messages at a time. If she doesn't respond, then I won't even say anything and move on. I also need to prejudge off of pictures. If they're all photos of them doing stuff on vacations or they mention loving to travel I automatically skip them. If they mention partying, raves, or road trips, I skip.

[@TrentonF505]

That’s been my experience as well. However, I’ve heard women complain about the same thing, so maybe the issue is people are not engaged in online dating anymore but also people aren’t going out as much because the pandemic made everyone homebodies.

[@Darklordiban7]

@@TrentonF505 Haven't really tried as much meeting people in the world since the pandemic, but my prior experience with that is terrible as well. Too many stories of women wanting to be left alone while they're doing things. "I hate when I'm at work and guys try to talk to me." "I hate when I go out shopping and there's a guy trying to talk to me." "This guy came up to me at the gym. I'm just wanting to work out." At least on a dating site I generally know that they might have some interest in dating and talking to me. Which sucks because there's still a lot of women on dating sites that aren't that interested, they're just looking to window shop or treating the sites like Omegle without the camera.

[@wiredvibe1678]

Try find your dates from female friends. Tinder and other dating apps is the worst place to meet women.

[@Crissybooable]

Online dating is terrible tbh

[@FriedChickenKyla]

LMAO honestly that was me when i was on dating apps. women typically get way more matches/messages then men so it’s literally impossible to have a convo with each one so they have to be interesting in the first few messages or they get booted. every dude would say “hey” which is fine, but if it’s followed up by something like “wyd”…you’re out. my current boyfriend, I messaged first and he replied “hey. you have pretty eyes, we should get married” kinda cringe lol but i liked the playful banter and it showed his personality really fast so he caught my attention

[@LB-yg2br]

2:30 hot take? Yea, hot take cause it’s so completely off base. Plenty of dudes have careers, cars, houses, and desperately want a woman in their life and find it hard to impossible to find a decent one. Not even a good one. Just decent. Like “just don’t cheat on me” level. Like, just fulfill the bare minimum agreement of being in a relationship. It’s very much an American problem. Overseas, no issue finding decent women. Happily married now and laughing at all the idiots and their hot takes. There is a reason that we say “sailors come with sea bags and leave with families” when talking about single guys coming to Japan. It’s so gdamn true. It’s hard to stay single. Lonely men need to just take a trip overseas and let American women rot on the vine waiting for chad because they would rather wait for a 10 than “settle” for a 6 with a good job. Hypergamy is real. The metadata analysis doesn’t lie.

[@ralphwilsin]

Them state mandated gfs are starting to sound real good right now…

[@ralphwilsin]

We need a system that equal distributes partners equally for real fr 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@trired1729]

we need state mandated keffals body pillows

[@somerando8615]

We must seize the means of reproduction.

[@herzeleid9525]

What if you get one who like pegging?

[@electron6825]

@@herzeleid9525 grab the lube

[@trevor5666]

I’ve reached the point where I refuse to take any action in my life if I feel it’s motivated by attracting women. I’d rather be single til the end than keep doing this weird game of Simon says with the opposite sex

[@doomtron4]

I mean I guess? Feels like most of the things that are going to help with women are just good things to do period. Clean up your place, get in shape, put yourself out there. If being lonely is the initial push towards doing those things, so be it.

[@ccfliege]

based

[@Notorious1441]

Better yourself for your own sake, not for anyone else.

[@kenamada5451]

Better yourself for your own sake and you will draw people. I cannot say this enough. I never ever focused on the dating market not once and I've had so many fruitful connections to people because you're seen as more authentic and confident in yourself.

[@mharris4264]

@@doomtron4 Exactly, but a lot of the redpill seems framed around women even when they say do it for yourself. They might say "work on yourself" but afterwards " and the women will follow".

[@loganjackson675]

Destiny has been in an internet bubble of having women available for him due to clout for way too long. Sneako should take him out to a bar somewhere where he wouldn’t be recognized and have him cold approach women like most other dudes have to do, and we will see if being able to approach and talk to women will actually put you ahead of “90% of guys.” In actuality, he’d be cast off as the short and creepy guy. None of the women in my area know who he is, and I can promise that non that Destiny would sleep with would even give him a second look. I don’t buy into all the red pill shit but Destiny is straight up wrong. Out of the dudes in my friend group, I’m moderately interesting in conversation, moderately put together financially, and significantly more shy in approaching women than others. I also do significantly better than the guys on the high end of those categories because I’m tall and conventionally good looking, just by virtue of getting initial interest that they never get. And this is with women both higher and lower tier on the looks/success/personality scale. There are a ton of women who will simply not settle for anything less attractive they can get sex on tinder with, and struggle with why those guys don’t commit to them

[@regisglass5464]

Why do you think strong relationships are formed by picking up girls at the bar? Isn't that like saying women expect strong relationships from tinder?

[@loganjackson675]

@@regisglass5464 Who’s talking about strong relationships? I’m talking about why men are sexless

[@regisglass5464]

@@loganjackson675 why are you writing that? Destiny's entire point was about relationships. Even you implied this when you complained women expect committed men from tinder.

[@loganjackson675]

@@regisglass5464 dating and relationships are interconnected but his point was about getting interest from women, not “strong relationships.” The segment he’s responding to is literally about why men aren’t getting laid anymore. Strong relationships generally may not be found at bars or on tinder but that’s where many people interact and try to meet potential matches for sex and/or relationships.

[@loganjackson675]

@@regisglass5464 also my complaint wasn’t that women are searching for relationships on tinder, it was that they expect commitment from the same caliber of men that will bang them on tinder. Meaning that, women have assumed that if they are able to get a certain type of dude to fuck them, they’ll be able to get that type of dude tied down. Which leaves women commitment-less and most men sexless, and most everyone unfulfilled.

[@Zenweaponry]

Destiny's "so many men are shit" take is informed by being a high value dude who isn't exposed to the dregs of the opposite sex. Frankly it's embarrassing that he thinks he has anything approaching a normal perpsective on this issue.

[@diego032912]

Personally I think it's super off-hand to tell a guy they're not being a real man or a woman that they're not a real woman. It's just a useless and irrelevant remark that somehow gets attached to criticism. This is in regards to the the guy in chat who said he's had girls in the past tell him "to be a man and stop complaining" and Steven said she may have a point if he complains all the time. I only agree that she may have a point with his complaining, but the whole commentary about him needing to be a man almost undermines it all by implying that the need to not complain is one-sided when it isn't which then puts into question the whole criticism. Is she being reasonable with saying this, is she just too different from you, or does she have a skewed concept of what is excess for complaining?

[@TransformersNibbasInDisguise54]

nah. if you're not doing the things that would create a masculine or feminine person you're not living up to your part. if a man can't handle physical combat and has no mature characteristics that would lead to fight and work success like a stout body, logistics of mind, strong neck, willpower then I will not pity him in not getting women because the issue is never not being able to get a family and build, it's always about pleasure. for women a ridiculous amount have actively been killing their femininity so I really don't see most as worth any commitment. both men and women reaped what they sowed.

[@simoneiolearningcentre7594]

@@TransformersNibbasInDisguise54 so if i had stronger neck muscles i’d be a man

[@Daxel134]

@@simoneiolearningcentre7594 Yes

[@sybinn3920]

the fact that he was using personal anecdotes to prove his point and then someone responded with a personal anecdote of their own and he turned it into him complaining too much rubbed me the wrong way

[@TransformersNibbasInDisguise54]

@@simoneiolearningcentre7594 literally yes. there are ridiculous androgen receptors in the yoke that change your bone and muscle density, how your skull looks since your skull and neck are connected and it will change your hip insertion and can change muscle belly type. your yoke size will change your shoulder width and can basically cannibalize certain amounts of fat. this is basic stuff as humans were in pretty dangerous spots for a while people complain about chads but realistically they're not that hard competition as chads today pale in comparison to the legends that have existed.

[@jesuslover4436]

(guy who used his wealth and fame to get a girl 10 years younger than him and hasn’t had to date as a normal person since the internet became mainstream) “women have it really tough out there, if you don’t have a gf it’s because you are mean to women, women never ever choose guys who are mean to them”

[@scottemmons6409]

Most women are working at ihop and Walmart. I live in Ohio. Most women work minimum wage jobs. They are not financially independent.

[@bobsherman3055]

I don't think any incel in the history or even redpiller has ever been convinced by any one of destiny's arguments. He is so out of touch on this topic

[@ThePopchamp]

Dudes a bisexual swinger he's not living the average life

[@thijsjong]

Certainly he is a high profile man with lots of exposure. He has an entourage of other streamers orbiting him. The attraction game he has going is a completely different universe.

[@bonkling]

Redpillers aren't convinced by anything, their biases and too strong and they're essentially brainwashed. Both are out of touch. There's a middle ground between Destiny and Incels, and it's what the average man experiences.

[@ogulcandursun1665]

@@thijsjong not just that but he is an exceptional human as a human himself he never had any problems with girl in fact he admitted he had trouble building emotional attachments with most guys he is too biased because of his experience. I agree he is out of touch

[@lonewaer]

Completely out of touch. I'm at the "emotional vulnerability" part of the video, he's just… out of it. Completely out of it on this topic. He's reasonable on most topics, but on relationships, it's really not a good idea for anyone to take his advice/analyses seriously.

[@creednex]

Do any other guy who's single and sexless just ever listen to this stuff and think man I just want be happy and take care of myself even if am single forever sometimes destiny advice comes of too me as just have more money and I want to do that for myself but not just to get a girl.

[@desotodesun3449]

it worked for him lol

[@creednex]

@@desotodesun3449 good for him just saying its not for me wondering if others feel the same.

[@clonical1044]

@@desotodesun3449 and him only.

[@desotodesun3449]

That's what I'm saying of course he's going to treat the process as easy, because it was for him. Destiny is famous (relatively), rich and has the free time to be fully committed a relationship.

[@Crissybooable]

Ironically not caring too much about getting into a relationship might actually be a better way to get into a healthy one (with the caveat that you are interacting with people daily)

[@cb00ful]

Can’t wait to be blackpilled again by the general public

[@wiredvibe1678]

Sometimes you just need a good punch in the gut to see clearly

[@FazeParticles]

if you haven't been already then you're stronger than most.

[@wrestlingPC]

We live in a age and culture where relationships are formed out of lust and ego rather than affection and love.

[@kidkool27]

This has always been the case

[@FazeParticles]

most relationships have never been formed out of love and affection. that's not how humans are built. most relationships have been built from necessity and survival. we no longer need each other thereby allowing more shallow and vain dating standards and men and women are going to have to get with the program or force a Revolution and turn back the clock and yes they absolutely can.

[@takeshikovach5165]

When has relationship formed on love? Arrange marriages are very social status and money oriented.

[@thealgorithmluvsu3788]

Love and affection is the biggest con when it comes to all this. Reality isn't a romance novel.

[@wrestlingPC]

@@kidkool27 do you know anyone that is happily married?

[@williamlawson7852]

Destiny on that “how gay can I be” grind

[@gabemord5088]

Yes it's true. Breaking down and crying for no reason or stupid reasons makes rational people look down on you regardless of sex

[@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947]

I suffered abuse from my mother when I was young, and I now have deep schizoid tendencies. I don't understand why a woman that suffered abuse can behave this way and be protected, but I can't. I don't want to socialize with people who expect too much of me because I don't enjoy social interaction, despite wanting it to some degree. I support feminism, but please, don't have double standards for men who are also struggling with their own childhood abuse.

[@GG-vl9xq]

I'm sorry for what you experienced. I truly am. But I don't recommend anyone (men and women) to date when they haven't dealt with their past/current trauma's yet. People who say that women can do that, or are allowed to do that, are honestly so wrong for doing that. I always say to my female friend who has trust issues "don't start a relationship yet when you haven't dealt with that yet. Because in some way or another, that will lead to bad consequences for the both of you". Even if you can't eliminate those tendencies ever, just learning the skills and tools to deal with them in a good way when they do happen, is already great.

[@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947]

​@@GG-vl9xq That's the same logic as saying those with mental illness shouldn't have a job or go to college. How are they supposed to get better if relationships are a fundamental part of feeling ok? Time, pills and therapists can only do much. What is incredible is how everyone prefers to keep such high standards for dating instead of allowing some room for error. Undoubtedly the best way to eliminate trust issues is to create meaningful relationships; otherwise, your supposed healing exists in a vacuum bound to fall apart. Sure, it may lead to harmful consequences, but those are already granted by refusing to try.

[@GG-vl9xq]

@@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947 how to explain better... why dating/being in a relationship is different than friendships, jobs, college... is because it is way more intimate. So intimate that in some way or another, they will influence each other. So the chance to drag eachother down will be way higher than with friendships or other kinds of relationships. You don't have to be 'cured' to start a relationship. You can still go in a relationship but you have to have the tools and skilled to lower the chance of harm (mental and/or physically). That's a responsibility you have to take upon yourself. If you're already in a relationship and you see these things happening, I don't recommend just breaking up. I recommend to deal with these problems with a professional.

[@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947]

@@GG-vl9xq I mean, if you're talking about being responsible with oneself, then I agree. If you're saying you have to be responsible for the possibility of hurting others, I think that's their responsibility. It's patronizing to say women can't take care of themselves, and we men should have the tools and skills to care for them. Of course, if you mess up, it's expected that you get criticized for it. Most professionals can't help because they are often not qualified to deal with people outside the norm, no matter how many degrees hang on their walls. That's my experience. If you're worried about me, thanks, I'm fine. I'm not currently dating or even trying to date, and I have a somewhat good therapist I visit from time to time. I don't date because I don't feel the vibes, and I certainly do not carry the vibes; maybe things will change; who knows. I wished I could talk with Destiny about this because I think he's undervaluing the number of people who are actually struggling with their own demons.

[@GG-vl9xq]

@@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947 no no. Taking responsibility for one self. So if the woman had issues, they take the steps to minimize the chance of harm. (Go to a professional to learn these skills an tools. Don't expect the partner to 'fix' it for you) The same with the man. So not patronizing. I get what you're saying. But just the fact that you put in that effort, makes me think you're probably already ready to be in a relationship. As long as you have the self-awareness of your situation, triggers... is already very good. But if you don't want/need a relationship right now, that's also good. I'm the same. I don't want to get in a relationship right now. Already 3 years because I don't feel ready yet. Not the same reason as you. My self confidence got messed up to the point I losr myself in a relationship (just do things I don't agree with to make that person happy. Step by step, I couldn't recognize myself anymore. That was not a good experience)

[@zzzMrgamerzzz]

19:55 I died laughing. I could literally tell if my mum was coming into my room just based on how fast she was moving😂

[@lanetderaffe2069]

some massively bad takes in this one. "If you are decently funny and got your shit together, you will be better than 95% of the men" That's just plain shitting on men. You could say the same about women and at that point you are just shitting on humanity

[@againsttheleftandright4065]

Destiny doesn't want to get close to this. He's a liberal. Saying women are bad at anything implies that women fill a role in society.

[@nowie4007]

true dat

[@user-es4lp3kp2w]

It’s cool to shit on men and put the vast majority of the weight on us, and treat women like r-tarded children who have little or no personal accountability, even tough they contribute to the horseshit structures almost as much, if not the same amount, as men. Misandry is well accepted in the majority of progressive circles, including destiny’s, apparently.