Wonky Wrangler! (No crank - No comm) - Part 1

Here we go again!
This time it's a dead Jeep in South Carolina.
Hasn't ran in a month, and the owner wants it figured out right without shooting the parts cannon :)
We are on the right track, but then the Jeep throws a curve ball....
Enjoy!
Ivan

[@broncowrangler]

It was great to meet you, Ivan. Thanks so much for getting us back on the road! Just in time for summer!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

My pleasure, Josh! Enjoy the Jeep! :)

[@BoB4jjjjs]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I know! The Jeep does not like the wet, use a hairdryer to fool it and it will run lol

[@paulpurdue5963]

Josh Brooks, did your jeep just die while driving, with no crank ? Did you have a DTC P0688 ? That's what my 2006 wrangler did 2 years 5 months ago and had not even reached 100,000 miles, and since, has been acting as a 4,000 lb driveway ornament because a replacement computer was not available. I finally purchased one which arrived a couple of days ago, but it still has no crank !

[@broncowrangler]

@@paulpurdue5963 no. I parked it one day and the next it would not start. No crank. Had no communication with the computer.

[@paulpurdue5963]

@@broncowrangler thanks for your quick reply ! My scanner has communication with ECM and TCM ( automatic trans) with old computer but no crank. After installing new computer, still no crank. Fuel pump now works with new computer. I have continuity on wires that I have checked. Puzzling, this one is. I keep watching this video over and over trying to figure out what I'm missing ? Hope your wrangler is still running strong !

[@happy543210]

if you don't have multiple failures......you ain't jeep

[@hpelisr]

Bad ignition switch, the contacts will intermittent when the switch go's bad. i would suggest you check out the ignition switch

[@douglasjones3799]

Yep, another cliffhanger! You are a cruel man Ivan lol!

[@baxrok2.]

When you said the customer tried a new PCM I thought that would be a good place to start. lol Looking good Ivan!

[@mark98070]

Another great video Ivan! Can't wait for part 2. Nice of you to bring us along. I see that the owner commented, it's fixed and...another happy customer!

[@Brian-lw4su]

Thats really nice of the youtubers to let you stay. Lest you wouldn't have been late for work! Shows how kind alot of people are these days. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for part two now. So excited for more content.

[@thetinpin]

Chrysler ignition switch hunch say _"DERRRP, DERRRP, DERRRP, DERRRP!"_

[@jd-kv9in]

Great use of the diagrams and logic, that Jeep is gremlins going on. I saw the problem immediately, a Chrysler product with 166214 miles. 😃😃

[@aaa000777]

I think Chrysler in Italian means bad ground!

[@BoB4jjjjs]

No, just bad lol.

[@TreyCook21]

C'mon guys... It means bad from the ground up

[@BoB4jjjjs]

@@TreyCook21 Come on, they are not that bad, you can grow house plants in them in the summer!

[@TreyCook21]

@@BoB4jjjjs They should come with a 'Greenhouse package'; a clear top for veggies year round!

[@neilmurphy845]

@@TreyCook21 haha ya

[@mcgarveychapron2888]

What a cliff hanger 😂🤣😭 ... Excellent diag sir!

[@dannyk9149]

Just a spitball to lob out there, the main wiring bulkhead connector on some jeeps was located directly under the clutch master cylinder. Spills and leaks caused all kinds of fun as they went on.

[@scottlynn6064]

Broken steering wheel lock shaft. Between lock cylinder and eletrical switch. Does the key turn on radio in full back position. Dorman makes some.

[@crisprtalk6963]

4:44 the pause gave real dramatic effect! Hollywood is jealous!!

[@SimplyDiagnostics]

Awesome Ivan, love the cliffhangers, look after your Pomona's, the needle tips don't like current flow 🤣

[@rubengarcia6920]

The 4.0 have a very common location on the back of the head where wires love to just rub them selves

[@georgebell3964]

Great job Ivan,you are the man!!

[@bettylane1984]

This jeep belongs on Staten Island! Awesome...thank you

[@broncowrangler]

Not enough rust to be up there. 😂

[@thomastommy1192]

Another awesome cool video thanks for sharing. Stay well and safe out there on the roads. I hope you have a safe trip home.

[@wyattoneable]

You've taken "Mobile Diagnostics" to a whole new level. It's a great way to pay for your gas home. Which I just realized you are home by reading the comments. I'll look forward to part two.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah it was a great trip! Never got bored and got to meet some awesome people along the way :)

[@zx8401ztv]

The bypass works, then it changes it's mind lol. Corroded connector pin maybe.

[@Wildturkey10121]

I'm glad I started watching your vids man great stuff! I suck at wiring and electrical crap and you make it look so easy, wish I could do that! Ever come to Texas on a trip let em know I would let you check two of my cars that are a pain in the ass with intermittent faults.

[@DangerousSportsForSeniors]

Another Pine Hollow cliff hanger ! Will our hero make it home? Thanks for sharing. Looks like a great trip

[@markferraro5250]

great video Ivan thanks safe trip home

[@lustfulvengance]

South Carolina and North Georgia are, in my opinion the most beautiful parts of this country!

[@AP9311]

Awesome video!! That is mind puzzling problem. I know what it is, it's JEEP!!! haha, awesome video as always, can't wait for part 2.

[@marscruz]

I've never owned a Chrysler product in my 50+ years of buying vehicles. No Fiats, French cars either, but a few old British motorcycles. One Bimmer (never again) but now mostly Japanese for the last 25 years. I'll stick to Hondas and Toyotas from now on. They stopped making GM cars that I like 50 years ago.

[@konstantinusstoyanov9749]

Exellent detective, thank you, subscribed

[@JustAnother_Irishman]

No foot on the clutch second time around ?? I assume not since there will be a part two. Thanks for sharing Ivan. It looks like your having some real fun on your road trip.

[@rollingrockfan2482]

As always well done.

[@dtnel]

Ivan, No link to the Amazon store in ur description. Wanted to take a gander at the battery operated soldering iron you used. Looked interesting and piqued my interest.

[@hifiman4562]

Cool! I'm in Gaffney SC, atm. Headed back to Utah tomorrow, for home time.

[@999thenewman]

I read that in a Carolinian accent.

[@hifiman4562]

@@999thenewman I've learned all the accents of this country. Kid you not, I use them. My favorite is in Brooklyn.

[@999thenewman]

@@hifiman4562 I believe you. No doubt you meet all kinds of people while on the road.

[@irenesilvers7096]

Very nice video, Thank you. Did you notice the voltage gauge did not work until you bypassed +voltage to c1?

[@TheCrazy243]

Sound like ignition switch but wow!! What a epic video!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yup start with the basics :)

[@jeremyanthony9300]

Have a safe trip back to pa.

[@MA-ff5to]

Volt drop the wiring to battery positive. You will see a reading over 0.300v. I suspect the fault is at the terminal 30 connection. There will be a buzz bar or harness connector where any terminal 15 and 30 circuits gets its power from .

[@Paolo0902]

Did you press the clutch, when trying last two times? If you did, maybe switch is faulty (manual transmission safety).

[@RobertCiampa9112]

Totally off-topic but if I was gone from home that long my wife would have a conniption fit.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I've been back for two weeks now, this is just the last footage from the trip ;)

[@ayeshdesilva2365]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics fUr a greal soul.... And we see ur wife supports u well.... IAs technical guy... I really like ur practical approach using theory to solve pdoblems

[@VWWRENCHIE]

Mrs.Ivan sez.."oh are you back ALREADY?.".lol😃

[@sweetwilliam61841]

Hey Ivan..after you finish SC want to come to upstate NY? I got a Audi thats driving me nuts

[@VWWRENCHIE]

J.E.E.P. JUST ENJOYING ENDLESS PROBLEMS👀

[@daveg872]

Just empty every pocket

[@JamesLee-oe7mt]

Memories of "no bus"

[@Garth2011]

Maybe a few items. Could be the clutch starter safety switch or the ignition switch.

[@ablackformula]

You already know of one open wire in the harness, then got the engine to run and shook things around. Perhaps in the same spot a second wire opened (starter signal to PCM.) Are the green crusties playing hide and seek?

[@lackeydehackey405]

DId you check out the tornado damage while in Seneca? Boarg Warner makes a lot of drive train stuff here. Go up 28 to 11 to I-26 to I-81 to go home.

[@ralfsautomotive]

Good Video

[@TechOut]

Fuel and battery voltage aren’t reading on the cluster. Also I think on that cluster warning lights will illuminate after a certain period of time with no com.

[@scroberts9316]

I agree with Hack. I'm thinking ignition switch issue, &/or possibly clutch safety switch?!? Love Jeeps, but dang they can be frickin' annoying, lol.

[@tuffluckmotorsports8574]

Do you travel? I have a 06 grand cherokee that I have put 3 or 4 pcm in it seems to be fine and then no crank all over again played around with the tipm yesterday fired up today not so lucky lol

[@davemcgaffney9401]

I'm currently working on a 07 PT Cruser... Was very intermittent then no start at all... Bad actuator between lock cylinder and actual starter switch... Very common on Chryslers of these years. When key is turned to "start" a plastic pin is pushed into starter switch ... This pin wears down... On mine you replace the whole ignition lock assembly...(metal pin also wears down)...

[@thebaldmechanichardatheari1124]

Good stuff

[@cletusgaming6108]

I would look at that power distribution box under the hood

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Of course! Have to pick it up and inspect ...

[@bobbydelamar606]

How do you know what amperage to set the test light? What test light tool set is that?

[@joeshearer1247]

On your starter relay fused jumper wouldn’t it be better practice to arc the connection on the test rig rather than in the fuse box?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I don't think it would matter either way...whatever is easier :)

[@elcheapo5302]

It's a shame the beeping didn't stop along with whatever else failed.

[@johnmccallum8512]

Yeah that would be a candidate for an on off switch if I owned it.

[@neilmurphy845]

Why do they put that noise in it

[@johnmccallum8512]

@@neilmurphy845 no idea here in the Uk it is not present in any car that I have been in perhaps they think that you can't remember opening the door.

[@neilmurphy845]

@@johnmccallum8512 ya maybe because I've never heard any uk or Ireland car doing that except a Corolla verso

[@brianhays4817]

I'm going with Ign Sw or connector that the 12v+ is open on? But I'm just a dumb Chevy fan what do I know. Lol. Go Ivan.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

haha that's a great guess!

[@fmbfla]

Check MAIN GND /Tipm gnd @ Pass Side engine block (near/above) Starter. Use a Jumper cable(suitable AWG for starter) to run GND from BATT - to BLOCK. Re-test

[@67falcon200]

Another great video as always, but my god please disable the Chime

[@BoB4jjjjs]

Did you check the Flux Capacitor? :-D

[@wallacegardner5090]

nice job ice cream

[@butchromig824]

defective neutral safety clutch switch?

[@josephpurvis474]

Ignition switch ?

[@jdtractorman7445]

I was going to say ignition switch or neutral start switch issue, leaning more toward ignition switch though. I should have said clutch switch, lol.

[@tallman8490]

I can sure use you in Philadelphia

[@SmittySmithsonite]

My 2 guesses are a busted wire, or a bad ignition switch. It's a Chrysler product - they leave the factory with multiple problems. 😂

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Or BOTH! ;)

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics - Hahaha! Very true! 🤣

[@billyr9840]

Nice !

[@crapalator]

At this point, it is intermittent.Is it the PCM.Is it a corroded wire?Jeep looks clean. A wire that is chafed in the loom? "Enquiering" minds need to know!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Part 2 coming right up! ;)

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Corrosion in the connectors? Possible corroded wiring in the harness causing intermittent starting problem? You sure are doing a lot of different problems between going to Florida, at the training site and on the way home. This is definitely a working vacation.

[@janpur1417]

Ivan, Greetings from Staten Island. How do you test a 2 pin ignition coil power supply line? A 01 Montero 3.5 L shows no power into one of its coil packs (the coil pack is good). Other 2 coils receive power from ECU and runs on 4 cylinders now. Please help ! Thanks!!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Constant B+ power supply? A 1-amp test light would be my tool of choice :) What do you mean "it receive power from the ECU"? Usually the power feed is through a fuse, and the ECU just pulses the ground.

[@janpur1417]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Are you back home? Got it! Thanks!! When engine OFF key ON the 2 pin wire connector should show 12V? Can I use a 12V test light attached to battery ground and check B+ power continuity on the connector to eliminate a blown fuse? thanks!

[@engeneer_ru5827]

An incandescent lamp has inertia. The pulses on the coil contacts are better seen by the LED.

[@janpur1417]

@@engeneer_ru5827 How do I test which one of the wires is B+ and ground from ECU? Thanks!

[@lylecheckeye6300]

I would love for you to do a show once and help us to find a online place to buy a wire diagram like you use per vehicle. I dont do alot of cars but it would be nice to buy a wire diagram like you use per car or truck when I need . not a subscription. dont do that many. Any ideas ? Love your style and how do you stay so calm ? Do you ever get mad and through a wrench ?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Great question Lyle. Well you can pay me and I can look them up for you haha ;)

[@josephlucckino7090]

How can I contact you i have a issue with my truck sick of ppl telling me to keep switching Parts

[@simonrawle7885]

hope you have got some moonshine for the way home

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Привет Иван! Ты приехал к этому автомобилю специально для ремонта? Или заехал по-пути домой из Флориды? Смотрю с интересом, Денис!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Почти по пути...+4 часа езды :)

[@engeneer_ru5827]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Далеко, однако... Эх, жаль у нас тут не принято оплачивать время в дороге. Я бы поездил по моей Пензенской области. Телефонные звонки бывают, но оплачивать дорогу, никто не может позволить.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Дешевле и надёжнее чем тащить на буксире ;)

[@engeneer_ru5827]

:))) У нас тут все наоборот! Дешевле тащить на буксире. Эвакуаторами не пользуются. Трос и автомобиль друга. Но главная проблема другая. В твоих видео, все автомобили имеют заводскую проводку, все монтажные блоки на месте, нет ничего самодельного. Видимо, не принято устанавливать дополнительное оборудование. А в России, все-все уже кем-то переделано, дополнительно установлено много разных аксессуаров (задняя камера, парковочный ассистент, музыка...) Все не совпадает с заводской схемой. Ремонтирую каждый раз как-будто неизвестную ранее машину.

[@serge4856]

I am here

[@VWWRENCHIE]

Remember when car makers made wiring that was durable...not like today with wire as thin as your hair...which is thinning by the way from all those bad crappy wire connections😎

[@staind288]

Check engine light is on the bottom of cluster just to the right of center...

[@davidgrisco1939]

It's the next day and I've got the "wonky DT's" waiting for the conclusion video release...🙃

[@fieldsofomagh]

Nothing left to do but scratch the head in anticipation. Could it be the green crusties outbreak ?

[@neilmurphy845]

I think it's a faulty ignition switch

[@Spelter]

It's a Jeep, of course it has more problems.

[@phprofYT]

It's a Jeep. Of course it has several issues.

[@fenceman53]

Crankshaft position sensor as per Jeep sop

[@pookatim]

Hope it isn't something stupid like the neutral safety switch.

[@litz13]

For those complaining about Jeeps breaking ... 309k on a bone stock XJ. Just sayin' ...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

The 4.0L is a complete beast. I think Matt's Off Road Recovery is making the old Jeeps skyrocket in value haha

[@litz13]

Matt redefines "beast" every video he does. But that 4.0 is an amazing design, and so so easy to work on. Mine's pre-coil pack so even more so.

[@broncowrangler]

While this one was out of commission, I’d been driving my other Jeep. A ‘94 YJ 4.0 with about 250k miles.

[@prmayner]

Lucky you, I'd move to Vegas before your luck runs out. Yours must have been built on a Wednesday right after they got a huge raise.

[@notajp]

My 98 XJ has close to 300k. Good old AMC designed 4.0.....

[@999thenewman]

And it's only part 1.

[@ratbag359]

im thinking loose connector.

[@Scooter30FTW]

I hate those stupid door buzzers.

[@somerandomguy3868]

It could, but it might be the PCM fussing about inconsistent powers and or grounds

[@aymenmohamed1134]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🌷

[@gs7865]

Someone already said ignition switch, but WTF is a clutch switch doing in a vehicle that can at times stall on a grade? Did I catch that right? I am so glad I stopped buying Jeeps. But a crappy Chrysler clutch switch would explain a lot of those issues, not all, but a lot.

[@broncowrangler]

The engineers actually thought of that. There’s an empty spot in the Underwood fuse box that is a bypass for the clutch switch. Stick a fuse in and you no longer have to push the clutch to start.

[@arthurcunningham530]

Nothing like a working vacation. Ivan if you get a chance I sent you an email concerning 2009 Chevy Impala blend doors. I would appreciate it if you get the time if you could read it and maybe think about it

[@jeff7.629]

I'm thinking there is an issue with the underside of the power distribution box. Either a loose or corroded connection.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Anything is possible!

[@russgrebenc7923]

It’s biggest issue is Chrysler.

[@kdmq]

Don't you love it when more problems occur mid-diagnosis?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Especially when the owner is watching hahaha

[@thetinpin]

The pressure is real! Gotta keep you on your toes, KZbin car fix-it guy!

[@throttlebottle5906]

jeep strangler.... let me guess bad alternator(regulator) blew a FUSE, lol

[@kellyspeppers]

I smell a rat, under the power distribution box.

[@j.j.springer1099]

First I check to see if its the Chinese version, Mexican or canadian model! Then scrap it! If American fix it! Funny how many parts I made for Chrysler/ jeep I sent over seas! The jeep Dragon was first made in China!

[@Anatoliy911]

first check and see if it's the American, then scrap it.

[@sergesvz]

Ivan would like to get in contact with you, Its Sergey from Minneapolis MN

[@ryguy57106]

Disappointed, no bonus footage 😄

[@majcam1]

yowww, bro I watch your videos often and tell you it is really annoying to concentrate with the disturbing noise of an open-door signal ok?. hear my thoughts. disable the switch for the door with a piece of tape or screwdriver or whatever works for you sir, then I send a like to your channel, I sincerely like your channel, my best wishes to you.

[@shopenz]

Hi, you need a facebook page bro. Thank you.