Wood Siding Best Practice Install - Rainscreen w/ Rigid Exterior Foam

[@ericgoodwill2943]

Good to see you back priming and sealing all of the end grain. You are absolutely correct to seal the ends before installation. Almost all failures I see are due to the end grain of boards and trim not being sealed. Water just wicks in and is drawn up and into the wood.

[@brokenarrowez]

Love your videos. Only a rich customer could afford that type of work. :)

[@johnalvitre3154]

Wow, I have been following your work and found this to be a treat... "On the Build Show!" kept on playing in my head. LOL. And you look much younger here too. You have been providing us homeowners and DIYers lots of help so I want to say Thank You Matt. I am just getting into my project, in Toledo Ohio... and I am in a historic district so that makes it more to do than standard. My fun is about to begin again. See you on another episode of your show.

[@mikehikes710]

Been watching your newer vids. Cool to see a younger you doing the same

[@buildshow]

We used corrugated plastic then wrapped with with a fiberglass insect screen to form a "U" shape. Works perfectly!

[@nextdevelopments8833]

I know this is an old one but I got a heap out of it. This is the sort of house I work with all the time down in Tasmania and it's great to see how you detail it. Really nice work!!! Just for the record... No stash :)

[@buildshow]

In this house we used 1/2" CDX plywood for sheating then wrapped the house with Tyvek Drainwrap. OSB would be an acceptable substitute for plywood, but Hardiplank sheets would not work as it's not rated for shear value. Best, Matt

[@buildshow]

Mine came from Regal Plastics here in Austin. You can also buy commercial versions from Cor-A-Vent. These can be bought from roof supply companies. Best, Matt

[@buildshow]

Thanks buddy! This house was always at that level. The original brick piers were in decent shape but the structural engineer had us put a concrete "shoulder" around the perimeter beams as well as a structural metal "x" bracing for lateral strength. We will stucco over those metal studs for a traditional stucco skirt. -Matt Risinger

[@kermitefrog64]

Excellent video. Still watching in 2020 as we are with the stay at home with COVID-19. You looked good with the mustache. I have had one since 13 years old and still have it at 58 years old.

[@buildshow]

My wife gave me about 3 weeks of Stache' time then she had enough...Matt

[@mikehikes710]

Go full beard

[@andrewyork3869]

You did have a bit of a Hitler stach going on.... Edit I guess it is a bit thicker on the sides then I thought.

[@Meglbytes]

Bring it back! Bring it back! Make it a Covid stache and everyone will nod and understand.

[@warrengraham7461]

I thought it was pretty cool

[@moehoward161]

Hey, Thanks for the video. An oldie but a goodie! I am working on home and this provided the knowledge I was looking for. Keep up the great flow of information. I gain wisdom every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks, John Howard

[@buildshow]

That's similar to Cor-A-Vent. We made them from 4x8 sheets of corrugated plastic. I bought it at Regal Plastics here in Austin and ripped them to the sizes we needed. This is a similar material to what Real Estate signs are made from. Matt Risinger

[@buildshow]

That white is pretty classic however...Best, Matt

[@buildshow]

I'm kinda missing that Stache'. Maybe I need to bring that back, thoughts?

[@BrianBriCurInTheOC]

Dave Ton LoL!!!

[@2006gtobob]

No 'stache! This ain't the the 80's anymore.

[@mel1654]

Hot!!!

[@Bacusone]

Love the vintage stash!

[@hassenfepher]

Decade ago Matt Risinger, still air-gapping siding.

[@Hedgehodge-]

HAHA! I found you with a stache :D This is what i was looking for kinda, since my home was 1925. back in 2012 though, so much has changed. Ive been doing this for two weeks now on my current 1925 house too, no insulation, termite damage, 2 layers of siding, one shakes with lead paint, then removing the old planks for sheathing back then(nightmare, so many nails) and then new mineral wool went in each studbay (none uniform distances so all custom cut to fit) and then zip sheathing/tape/tape/tape, prosecco liquid flash where I could, exterior 1" mineral wool, coravent, and fiber cement with azek trim for window trim and sills (OMG EXPENSIVE) and also for the corners. oh man....just build a new house instead LOL

[@Hedgehodge-]

woah, this is when you changed over to no stache at 5 minutes from here to current day :)

[@buildshow]

I'm sorry to hear about your siding failure. Yes this method I described would have prevented that failure. If you re-do your siding be sure to do a top notch WRB (weather resistive barrier), then your wood on rain screen as described in the video will set you up for many decades of beautiful wood siding. Matt Risinger

[@gfy2979]

That's beautiful siding. Personally I would finish only with linseed paints or quality linseed oil

[@woodstream6137]

Helpful. I have a bad gutter when i bought the house. The siding and backing wood is shot from water and ants. Layers are backer wood, wrap, foam, screen, then new siding.

[@MONGOOSE748]

What do you use under the starter course to prevent bugs from nesting in the space between the siding and rigid foam? I think coravent has a screened spacer.

[@Blue_Dun]

Hi Matt,great video.We remodeled our house in 1997 and the original house was built in 1947.The siding was redwood v-groove.It overlaps to create an inter-locking system but all you see is the v-groove joints.The framing contractor talked me going with pine v-groove to save money.He nailed them directly to the sheathing.Its been a disaster.Many of the boards are caving in because of moisture and perhaps rot?Now its attracted termites.Would this have been prevented had we used the rainscreen? Thx

[@shanek6582]

What do you put on the very bottom of the siding? Is the bottom of the rain screen exposed so it can drain? Seems like it would allow bugs a place to enter behind the siding, it there a screen type deal to allow water to fall out but not allow insects to go up behind the siding? Thanks.

[@nextdevelopments8833]

Check out www.cor-a-vent.com/

[@TallWAWA]

What method of stripping did you use to remove all the paint from the pine siding? I have a similar job that i need to do on my home and would like to preserve the 1923 wood.

[@leestebbins5051]

Jon Force Try a speedheater. A little pricey but definitely a time saver.

[@ralphanderson5621]

i just found your channel and learning alot i live in the Pacific Northwest would this rain screen system work for my area? Granite falls, Wa

[@ozarkdaredevils]

you do quality work

[@Hardworkandrealestateprofits]

Very nice 👍

[@MegaLabStudios]

Beautiful job.

[@Crystid]

What’s the easiest way to prime/stain all the boards before installation? I’m in the Panhandle, and using Western Red Cedar. Do I still need the vertical rain guard? If so, can I use 1x1s? House was built in the 70’s and I’m wrapping before installing. Thanks, Matt!

[@mikeprater1759]

Thank you for your videos . I need to put siding on my house . I have 1/2 foam insulation with regular insulation in my wall cavities with sheathing on the outside . Is it okay to put 1” foam and rain screen over the sheathing .

[@Sazabiiiiii]

Hi Matt, did you install an insect screen on the top and bottom vents? (Just doing a bit of research for my own self build). Thanks, Jay.

[@buildshow]

+Jay Sullivan yes. Bug screen on both ends.

[@carybrief5874]

Hey mAtt great job. Just working on a yellow pine siding project with a rain screen. With the screws, it looks like you are setting them flush. Is that correct? And then are you filling them? If so with what? Thanks

[@bruce-le-smith]

o.m.g. 2012 Matt!! nice #stash bro

[@macrapidito1]

question for you Matt where do you get your poly carbonate rain screen strips? how about pressure treated strips?

[@Ashroyer86]

What about all the penetrations for the nails on the siding. Would that cause water issues in the walls?

[@dia480]

very good video, I appreciate it very much

[@jakearchambault8160]

What stops the pests from going up behind the siding at the bottom and making a home? I love the installation method here and your method of thinking. some people think cause it's been done one way for so long it should stay that way. Your at the tip of the spear in terms of improving building practices and I love watching the videos!

[@CougarLand]

Rain screen.

[@JaimeZX]

Is there an analog for shingle siding? We have an old cabin that really needs to have the exterior redone; but not sure how I would design the same drainage with cedar shingles.

[@MichaelJordan-hn4zd]

Can I use GRK cabinet screws for the furring strips? Thanks!

[@buildshow]

Certainly

[@Thoracius]

Any reason to avoid using Rock Wool in place of the styrene in this sort of configuration? I'm in a cold ("subpolar oceanic") climate.

[@KC-gq9jf]

Thanks for the good videos. Do you have any videos on Hardie board type siding? I will soon install cement siding, and have done it once before, but the walls that I am putting the siding on this time have some dips in the sheathing (1/8-3/8 inch). Do you know the minimum the wall can be off the chalk line and not need to be shimed out so that the siding still looks straight? Do you have an opinion on using Tyvek house wrap vs some off brand such as Rex Wrap (made by Warehouser)? Thank you, KC

[@mikehikes710]

I'm a siding been doing it 14 years now would highly advise against hardie plank siding. It's very very poor siding

[@BobW7810]

Matt - What is the rain screen product that you used instead of wood furring??

[@breaktime919]

That window trim looks really nice! What size are the vertical pieces? both the one flat against the sheathing/window and the other that’s nailed to it’s side. And also the top piece, is that just a standard cedar drip cap I can find at my lumberyard?

[@jvalal]

Where are you finding those white plastic rain screen fixture.

[@Kellyg218]

Are you using any type of insect screen barrier for the rain screen? Is there any directional air flow intented as in a roof with cor-a-vent?

[@JamesG1126]

What is the sense in 3/4 inch exterior foam insulation? That will barely be noticeable in energy bills and it creates problems like the window installation. 2x6 stud with Rockwool interior insulation is fine.

[@leestebbins5051]

Would love to have seen the detail at the sill. Did you just use a starter strip or a drip cap?

[@JUNIORMICH]

How much did the exterior re-do cost, as far as house wrap, rain rail thing and the insulation plus the re install of the original siding?

[@jb_90265]

my house is much like this one with pine and cypress boards .... i want to put zip-r and newer siding on mine. however i am not quite understanding re-trimming around the old windows to make the edges "thick enough for the new thickness of the sheathing, siding, and rainscreen ....anyone seen a video ? i can kinda see how they did these windows in this video ... but i am still looking around for another video to get some ideas. my house is a craftsman bungalow with that typical craftsman style trim thats wider at the top ....

[@genepillai2981]

hi matt,can i use hardiplank sheet to wrap the house instead of using OSB ,and wrap the house with tyvek

[@jaandel1]

What kind of paint did you use for the siding ?

[@dogfan4lyfe]

This looks great Matt! I really enjoy following your videos and watching your projects. This house looks like it's being jacked up - is the foundation being replaced?

[@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555]

Man look at that caterpillar that made a home under his nose. LOL

[@wildbill100]

excellent job.

[@elliotgold]

Sweet mustache!

[@CynicalDad81]

How does the rain-screen/ventilation terminate at the top?

[@bricemadden5717]

Question for you Matt: What is the detail above windows and doors as far as the rain screen goes? Awesome videos! Thanks so much for your work!

[@buildshow]

+Brice Madden great question. You'll want a head flashing that runs through to the outside.

[@bricemadden5717]

that makes sense, but unlike a normal flashing, i assume it has to run underneath the rain screen, correct? normal flashing is just behind the siding......

[@clownisius]

Matt has done newer videos on how he does flashing above and around windows, especially above windows. The flashing goes all the way to the sheathing and goes out from that. He even repaired a home that he took over as contractor, it's there, watch and enjoy all his videos.

[@kalochalin]

how did you do the top of your windows? what nails did you use to for the rainscreen?

[@buildshow]

kalochalin There is a big metal custom flashing for the window heads. We are usually just tacking the rainscreen battens with small nails then the siding is screwed to the studs with long screws.

[@CougarLand]

I hope the house is not in too cold of a climate as only 1" of foam would cause a dew point issue in the walls in a cold climate. But I'm guessing this is in the South.

[@dabbledtv5955]

How did you get all that paint off the siding?

[@peacerocks3498]

Can you give me some advice? I built a new house with ceramic blocks. I want the exterior and interior wall to look like its log house. How do I do the insulation and other layers? Thank you in advance.

[@vdpeer]

So what would be a good detail to use for a shingle house? You certainly can't do a moisture gap behind the shingles the way you can for clapboard siding. Probably a product like Benjamin Updike Rain Slicker. BTW, you look better without that thing over your upper lip.

[@kirkellis4329]

Why didn't you just use strips of 1/2 EPS rigid foam instead of the Corrugated plastic ? Cheaper and neither one is structural anyway. Did you need it to be less compressible than the EPS would have been ?

[@nholt]

I want to see how you vented the rainscreen at the top

[@nholt]

I wanna see how it was vented on the top and the bottom!

[@peterparkerlovesmj]

Bring the stache back, Matt.

[@ccr8392]

Considering that it has the airspace and that it's going to be vented through the bottom and the top, what is the likelihood of water getting behind the styrofoam now? I mention this because of the paper being crinkled or being just the regular Tyvek. I don't think it would matter what type of paper would go behind it considering that if some water did get behind the wood, I highly doubt it would get behind the styrofoam at all. Just a thought...

[@timwerner7620]

The 'Stucco Wrap' would allow any condensation that got behind the insulation to migrate out. It's basically the same detail as an EIFS system but the top coat is wood siding instead of stucco. Clever idea.

[@renesilva241]

You were young!!

[@ivandag510]

where did the stash go?

[@Rick-tb4so]

no sheeting on the outside just foam boards ??

[@schottiey]

Rick S the sheathing is under the foam and tyvek.

[@macfain2000]

Interesting video. Distracted by the 'stache.

[@dabbledtv5955]

caulking is still important because of bugs, but yes caulk is not a stand-alone water barrier

[@ryanspence7239]

My... how things have changed

[@zackerynicholson954]

Bring back the stache!

[@MrBrianDuga]

If you can use polyiso foam instead, they don't use blowing agents that adversely effect the environment. It also performs great - 1" has an R-value of 6.5. Also, consider 2 layers of 1" at least to overlap seams. Use a good building tape on all seams. See GreenBuildingAdvisor.com. Constructive critism aside (no pun intended), I really admire your attention to detail and respect for the building's original architecture. Time consuming work - great to have a client who appreciates it and has the money to invest.

[@truthbetold444]

Could you give the name of those metal furring strips and what company makes them?

[@nextdevelopments8833]

They are a plastic sheet type product that mat has ripped down.

[@JD-hs7ib]

Maybe if the pine was stained BUT painted it looks no different that Hardie with the wood pattern.

[@btownb4462]

Hi Matt, awesome video. I need some details about how to finish the top and bottom of the rainscreen. How do you finish the top if we are planning on implementing crown that would butt up against enclosed eaves? Also, similar question with the bottom how would you finish the rainscreen where there is a 9-1/4" base board/water table...would the rainscreen/foam go behind the baseboard or terminate above it? Thanks!

[@youngsamuel1]

When did Dave Grohl start remodeling houses?

[@AaronStJohn-zb7qc]

Vintage

[@AX3L87]

bring the stache back!

[@yaxiongzhao6640]

The beard though...

[@beckyhp7776]

Wood siding looks great when first painted but looks awful after a few years and it takes too much upkeep. No thanks!

[@ooohrob]

shame your clients choose white instead of a natural stain

[@denisk751]

Mustache is distracting

[@buildshow]

Is that a good thing..(Tom Sellick) or a bad thing (70’s stache)?

[@kareno8634]

THAT'S WHY my house is POPPING PAINT! bloody outer walls had blown in insulation added. it's also caused problems inside - mold in plaster. man, makes me mad i don't know Enough!!! Mentioned to insurance dude after storm, so long ago, he just said, 'it will dry'. did NOT agree that's all there was to it. don't mess with me next life, or else. =| thanks

[@rocko882]

Do you do that with old redwood baten board?