Wood Turning Avoid Those Nasty Carbide Catches

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ThePapa1947

ThePapa1947

Күн бұрын

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@SuperZmeister
@SuperZmeister 2 жыл бұрын
The king of common sense! Anyone either just starting out or a very seasoned turner will quickly understand what catches are and, by your instructions, avoid them. Thanks.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. And for sure. Catches are common when first starting out. I think some might give up before figuring it out. Thanks for watching, Gayr
@MikeDooley
@MikeDooley Жыл бұрын
Brand new turner, tried my first bowl today. It went awful, catch after catch. Google brought me here, and you got me sorted out real quick! Understand what I was doing wrong, thank you for a great explanation. I was doing the opposite with regards to tool rest height. Thanks again!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike and welcome to the world of wood turning. Understanding the geometry of what is going on is a good way to see what causes those catches. May your wood turning be catch free. But having them be rare is the best we can ask for. The wood it self can contribute to a catch no matter what. Have fun, Gary
@jonperley7304
@jonperley7304 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad I found this video when I was in high school my shop teacher had me visit the local Pattern shop Ipswich Pattern was the name of it and l almost went to Fitchburg college to learn Pattern making but it didn't happen I chose to be a mechanic instead but never lost my love for woodworking! Seeing that you were a Pattern maker brought back many memories of that shop I became good friends with the owner Jack Sweeney he taught me so much and let me use his WONDERFUL SHOP! on weekends and evenings sadly Jack passed away from cancer I'm so grateful to have him for a friend end his knowledge I also turned a 6 foot tabletop in his shop what a great experience now at 70 I'm still turning mostly live edge bowls and vases thank you for bringing back those memories Happy turning to you Gary from Happy Wood Turnings here in Ducklake Maine!👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jon for an absolute wonderful story. I lived behind a pattern shop as a kid and did not know what they were doing but when I found out I decided I was going to be a pattern maker. Uncle Sam decided he wanted me for 2 years abut after that I followed my dream. Thanks for watching, Gary
@4thfrom7
@4thfrom7 2 ай бұрын
The woodturning world is blessed to have people like you in it. Thank you for this.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very Jeremy I appreciate you watching and commenting, Gary
@roydass3597
@roydass3597 Ай бұрын
Thankyou for teaching be something I didn't know about placement of carbide chisels.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Ай бұрын
Thank you Roy. I find it the best way to avoid a catch with a carbide cutter. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Gary
@lyndaowen2154
@lyndaowen2154 Жыл бұрын
My first carbide tools showed up today and I watched the lesson video. They sit with them, but yours has been a lot more informative and helpful. Thank you very much.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lynda. Just how I learned how to use them. Have never seen a lesson on them. Which kind did you get? Thanks for watching, Gary
@lyndaowen2154
@lyndaowen2154 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePapa1947 it was a very short video showing a bowl being turned. I did learn the differences between the round carbide and the square carbide but they did not show proper holding technique as yours did. I think, knowing the proper tool to use, and how to hold a position them are all very important lessons not just showing what they do which is basically all the video did. Like I said, yours was a lot more helpful to me at least.
@garymoulston8443
@garymoulston8443 2 жыл бұрын
Adding to my comment 9 days ago. Your advice on above centre on outside and below centre on the inside has helped my turning immensely. I have turned a couple of bowls and some spindle items since watching your video, thanks very much.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary that is great to hear! I know it can be frustrating when things work and then they don't. Glad it takes some of the mystery out of those catches. Have fun, Gary...from Oregon
@johnmaclauchlan8660
@johnmaclauchlan8660 3 ай бұрын
I’m very much a beginner. Attempted to turn a small chestnut bowl this morning using carbides and HSS tools. I was quite pleased with myself until I had a massive catch whilst hollowing out and it broke the recess wall! No damage to me fortunately! This video came up without me even searching and I think you have shown where I went wrong. Makes so much sense the way you explain it. Thank you so very much!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 3 ай бұрын
Thank you John for your comments. This has always worked for me. Others may have their ways but I do not recommend those to someone just starting out. Enjoy your turning and thanks for taking time to comment. Gary
@johnmaclauchlan8660
@johnmaclauchlan8660 3 ай бұрын
​@@ThePapa1947Thank you for your reply and much appreciated help!
@B4TS1
@B4TS1 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this video. I'll remember it by thinking of the summer temperatures when the air conditioner is on. Outside - high, inside - low
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@KC-xr2tm
@KC-xr2tm 2 жыл бұрын
I am new to turning. Thank you for showing me why I've been getting all those terrible catches.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching KC. There is usually a good reason for catches and tool placement is a very important part of wood turning. Have fun turning! Gary
@gonzo1863
@gonzo1863 Жыл бұрын
Been getting catches inside my bowl with the carbide (brand new turner). Makes complete sense, thank you!!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and letting me know. Best of luck. Gary
@davebenedum9253
@davebenedum9253 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for the practical lesson in this video.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 10 күн бұрын
Thank you Dave I appreciate you watching and commenting. Happy it helped. Gary
@JamesCouch777
@JamesCouch777 Жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner and since I don't know what I'm doing this is very helpful. I've not had trouble with catching on the outside but terrible on the inside. Thank you 😊👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. The geometry of the inside vs. the outside is totally different when it comes to tool placement. Happy it has helped. Gary
@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz
@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response. I used all 30 wedges, maybe my jig was 11.85 deg because the plug is 3” tapered to 1” as instructed and the joints are outstanding. Can’t wait to spin it. You are an inspiration, bravo!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Happy it all worked out for you. Thanks for letting me know. Gary
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Жыл бұрын
Good info. I've been turning for years with conventional tools. About a month ago, I decided to give "the dark side" a spin (pun not intended) with a Simple Shear Cutting Finisher Tool. I'm not yet convinced that it is "better", but I'm trying to give it a fair shake. I have to admit that I've seen some really nice pieces done with carbide tools. Cheers!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Michael. When I learned to turn all we really used were scrapers. I learned as an apprentice wood patternmaker. The scrapers we used were the best way to be able to turn to dimensions on a drawing that had to be exact. Plus bowl gouges were not a very common thing back then. The carbide tools are just scrapers on a smaller scale than what I used. I think there is a place for them for sure and I just call them another tool that I have access to. Happy turning my friend, Gary
@janeoverby2151
@janeoverby2151 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary what a great teacher you are. I don't have any carbide tools yet I use my bowl gouges and scrapers figured if I learn with traditional tools I can get a couple of carbide
@ACKSWOODPASTE
@ACKSWOODPASTE 2 жыл бұрын
Very good thinking Jane, thats the way to go about it!!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jane. You are doing it the right way. Gouges are my choice but carbides can come in handy, Also your scrapers will act just like the carbides unless they are negative rake. Thanks for watching, Gary
@michaelmcdermott2178
@michaelmcdermott2178 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gary! I use carbide fairly frequently, so getting your take on the technique is golden.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael. It works for me. Hope it works out for you as well. Thanks for watching, Gary
@williamruder8505
@williamruder8505 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. I’ve been turning for only a year and seldom use carbide. Partly because of the inside catch. The way you explained it and demonstrated it gave me the insight I need. I mostly use gauges but recently I’ve needed the reach that the carbide tools give me. I now feel like I can approach this with knowledge and confidence. Thank you.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you William. For sure reaching deep inside a vessel is one of the more difficult cuts I do. You just can't see what is going on as well. A nice heavy tool and setup correctly is a great help. Thanks for watching, Gary
@Zerkbern
@Zerkbern 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I watch a lot of turning videos and very few of them actually show techniques particularly around safety. Thank you.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Understanding the geometry of the catch really helps to see why it happens. And should help to avoid it. Thanks for watching, Gary
@mshaf
@mshaf 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gary. I'm a fairly new turner and am trying to figure out angles and positioning of the tools. This helps a lot.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael. Happy you found it helpful. Take care, Gary
@mvecellio1
@mvecellio1 2 жыл бұрын
Gary, that is a great explanation. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome and glad it was helpful. Gary
@spiritwynd
@spiritwynd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary! I'm going to have to try your technique the next time I use my carbides!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Heather and best of luck. Gary
@radarthewoodturner8912
@radarthewoodturner8912 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary great information my favorite are the dizzy bowls stay safe friend👍👍👍👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Radar and I love to do dizzy bowls so I should think about doing another. They take a lot of hours for sure. Take care my friend, Gary
@tristangriner3001
@tristangriner3001 11 ай бұрын
It’s definitely great to learn what not to do when it comes to woodturning. A catch will wake you up faster than a cup of coffee.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 11 ай бұрын
You are so correct Tristan. I can remember a few catches on 4-6 foot turnings. The adrenalin rush is like a someone opened a fire hydrant. Thanks for watching, Gary
@robertweldon7909
@robertweldon7909 2 жыл бұрын
So, you were a professional pattern maker. Now I know why you gain the results you always get. I can't even imagine turning 6 foot diameter turnings, let alone actually doing it. This is something that every person who wants to start turning wood should see. Great video. ;-)
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Robert. I did do one bigger but it was just a ring. But it was close to 8 foot diameter but was only about 4 inches thick as I recall. I always thought I had the woodworkers dream job. Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary
@sonyhk3824
@sonyhk3824 2 жыл бұрын
Information that everyone who works in Woodturning needs. Cheers Gary 👍 💯
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sony! Take care, Gary
@raydriver7300
@raydriver7300 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy your videos Gary and I thank you for sharing. Another night when I go to bed less stupid. You asked me to let you know how I got on with the oak plank turned into a bowl: let’s just say it wasn’t a total failure. The glue lines show too much and I think my two year old glue is past its use by date. I have only been turning for two years and your teaching has helped me so much. If had had your name, my numbers would be 1949 🌞
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ray. Well I bet when you get some new glue and give it another shot you will do much better. Oh yeah I remember 1949 very well LOL. Actually we were in the 1948 Vanport Oregon flood and the house floated down the river. I only have stories of it and my brother(13 years older) caring me out. We used to kid about that. We lost him last year but I like passing that story on. Thanks for watching, Gary
@calmwoodcreations3709
@calmwoodcreations3709 2 жыл бұрын
That laurel bowl was turned from my start to your finish, completely with carbide edges! As you may recall, Gary, that's all I've ever used. Had to teach myself how to turn and carbide was my choice. Your methods and mine differ, somewhat-- one to try is the square bit for most extererior cuts except the curve to that base. I've found it cuts smoother and I have better control of the cut. Also, carbide bits can be sharpened! Using diamond card files from 600 to 1,000 grit, sharpen *only* the face by lightly pressing the bit to the card with a fingertip and move it rapidly in small circles, working up through the grits. When the screw will no longer tighten it down to the shaft, toss it away and replace. It'll be quite awhile before it gets to that point. In 5 years, I have tossed only one that wouldn't tighten; others get tossed when they meet the chuck.😳 Cheers!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Well Dave I knew there was a good reason to finish that bowl in this video. I would have used bowl gouges had I done it on its own. So this was meant to be. I plan on making another holder that puts the point straight out. I think this would make a great cutting tool. Just like my larger scraper. It is very controllable on light and heavy cuts. I sharpen them on a diamond card as well. But unlike a HSS scraper you are not putting a burr on it. That is why I feel the scraper cuts better but dulls faster. Take care, Gary
@calmwoodcreations3709
@calmwoodcreations3709 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePapa1947 EasyWood now makes neg rake bits for all their full-size handles. I grabbed 'em for the round and square shafts. They do work nicely, but I haven't yet figured out how to sharpen them when they get too dull.
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 2 жыл бұрын
Great info for the turners in your audience, Gary. Take care. Bill
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bill, I thought about doing this a few years ago and there just has been a little more interest so I went ahead and did it. Plus it was fairly quick and it has been cold. It is 26 here this morning. Thanks for watching, Gary
@Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff
@Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting .. I would like to hear more about your pattern-turning-days ..
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeff. Here is a video I did at the my beginning of making videos. No talking but some cool pictures. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oprPZK2tnMhmhc0&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
@timgarner
@timgarner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, You showed me something that I have had problems with now I know! I will be trying this in the future.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim. I hope it works great for you. I only go a little past center and showed it as a long way just to make it easier to see. Thanks for watching, Gary
@randyjones2204
@randyjones2204 2 жыл бұрын
Very good demonstration for carbide tools and catches. Thanks much.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Randy. Happy you enjoyed the video. Take care, Gary
@giuseppedibari
@giuseppedibari 7 ай бұрын
One of the best piece of advice that I've seen from time ago. Thank you.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I know it is how I was taught years ago and it works for me.
@MarklTucson
@MarklTucson 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation. Thanks. There is a place for both traditional and carbide tools. I’ve found carbide works really well for resin and hybrid turning.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, I do not turn resin but I do see most people use carbides for that. When turning the inside of Black Locust end grain I find it helpful as well. I did one once where I had to stop and go buy one of the small round negative rake carbide cutters to finish it. Thanks for watching, Gary
@markb8954
@markb8954 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation & the diagram really made it hit home. We use a mix of traditional tools & carbide tools & the more we (wife & I) turn the better we get. Then bam - a catch. Most of the Easy Wood Tool (carbide) information guides indicate tool placement as “slightly” above center. But now I see on the inside, slightly below center is needed & why. Thanks for the good demo. Nice little bowl too.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark. Yes all I have ever seen was on center of slightly above. The geometry tells me is should be slightly below on the inside. Have fun turning, Gary
@garyp8471
@garyp8471 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information on how to position the carbide tools, that's what i'm learning with carbide. Just the job thanks Gary. All the best from Lincolnshire UK
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Gary. Hope it helps. Nothing wrong using them either. I have never had anyone I gave a bowl to ask me if I used a gouge or a carbide cutter. Take care, Gary
@skipflorey2511
@skipflorey2511 2 жыл бұрын
Gary, Wonderful bowl you turned. I enjoyed seeing it all done with carbide tools. The explanation of how the curve of the bowl relates to the tool position was superb.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Skip and thanks for watching. Gary
@markv1027
@markv1027 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect! I just bought my first carbide cutters and wasn't really sure how to use them. Thanks for the instruction. Have a great weekend Gary!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark. I would say take a piece of scrap and play around with the new tool. I would practice on the outside starting having the cutting edge just a bit above center and adjust from there for what works for you. Take care, Gary
@randsipe224
@randsipe224 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was really helpful to this newbie. I’m using all carbide in 3 profiles.❤
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting Rand. Have a great time at your lathe. I sure enjoy it. Take care, Gary
@TheTinyWorkshop
@TheTinyWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Good lesson Gary. Thanks for this explanation. Frank.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frank! Happy you enjoyed it. Take care, Gary
@malcolm4200
@malcolm4200 7 ай бұрын
I have been pen turning for 4 years now using carbide tools only, and i still get catches especially on acrylics, so this information is going to come in really handy for me, Thank you so much, liked and subscribed. best wishes from Nova Scotia.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Malcolm. Happy it helps Gary
@garymoulston8443
@garymoulston8443 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I had trouble with catch’s on the inside of bowls now I know why, thanks again
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary. Happy it helped and have fun. Gary
@watcher2610
@watcher2610 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, I was a master carpenter ( nobody is except maybe Norm) and instructor for 50 years and most of the influencers are new and are great for teaching me what I forgot! But you always challenge me with something new. So I had to subscribe and comment. Which I I only done 5 other times.. thanks and keep up the good work!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you very much and thanks for subscribing. I worked as a journeyman wood pattern maker and I still love to learn something new. You sound the same. Thanks again, Gary
@fa18mhr
@fa18mhr 2 жыл бұрын
I got a bad catch yesterday using a round carbide cutter on the inside of a bowl which threw my hand into the natural edge. Youser that hurt and I have some major scrapes and bruising to show for it. Thankfully no broken bones. Wish I had seen your video beforehand. Thanks for your insight.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your catch. It does sound like you could have a sore hand. I hope you are catch free from here out. Thanks for watching, Gary
@kulkulkan802
@kulkulkan802 Жыл бұрын
This video helped me so much! I made a beautiful bowl with your advice. Thanks so much for posting this, it’s a lifesaver!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Happy it helped. Thanks for letting me know and watching. Gary
@ianbennet7408
@ianbennet7408 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary Extremely informative video.... Thanks always enjoy your projects...the knotty pieces of wood with edge bark and lots of inclusions is my favorite projects to turn Ian Edmonton Canada It's cold here also
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Ian and I like those types of pieces as well. Working one right now. I am sure it is a lot colder up where you are at. Take care, Gary
@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz
@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz Жыл бұрын
Perfect! It is the 3” wedges I am attempting, I will make angular adjustments as you recommend. thanks for your help. E
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you E. Just know you can take a piece or two out to help the joints close up. The angle becomes a compound angle whey you tilt the pieces. Gary
@gilgrace1915
@gilgrace1915 2 жыл бұрын
I use traditional and carbide tools in my turning. I've noticed the carbide bits tend to produce tear-out on the softer woods I use. I found turning the tool about 5 to 10 degrees to mimic a negative rake scraper helps to eliminate some of the tear-out. This angling along with very light cuts give me the best results. Thanks for the cold air you keep sending us down this way. 2 degrees yesterday morning...too cold to work in the shop. Brrrr!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gil, yes tilting the tool is a very good option. Where do you live down from me where it is that cold. Must be upper end of California? It was a blazing 34 this morning but I tried to stay out of the shop. Take care, Gary
@gilgrace1915
@gilgrace1915 2 жыл бұрын
I live in northern Nevada, we had what we call an "Inside slider", a storm that slips down on the east side of the Sierras so no protection from the mountains. Almost back to normal now...low 40's today.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
@@gilgrace1915 right I remember that now.
@timponder7487
@timponder7487 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative Gary answered some questions I had about carbide very helpful 👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim. Happy it helped. Gary
@mikeyoung8126
@mikeyoung8126 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary great educational video take care and God bless
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mike and God bless you as well. Take care, Gary
@harrykeel8557
@harrykeel8557 2 жыл бұрын
I can certainly agree with what you are saying. I was turning a cherry cremation urn and on the inside if I did not have my round carbide cutter absolutely in the right place I would get a catch. And on the outside, as well. So I kept checking where the cutting edge either above or below, or dead center, and with regular gouges as well. Great video. I am hoping to obtain a better scraper eventually. Stay safe!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Harry. It is good to hear you figured out what was not working. Some just blade the carbide or scrapers. Thanks for watching, Gary
@cookiescoop6065
@cookiescoop6065 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir that will make a big difference for my turning ✌️
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and thanks for watching. Gary
@stewartmcmanus3991
@stewartmcmanus3991 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great lesson, thanks Gary.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stewart and thanks for watching.
@donaldtrabeaux5235
@donaldtrabeaux5235 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome video Mr. Gary thanks for sharing.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Donald and thanks for watching. Gary
@jnol9009
@jnol9009 2 жыл бұрын
Thx so much for the info. I had my first bowl explode and I was using carbide. This really helps. Thx again
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and for sure and having a bowl explode is no fun at all. Happy it helps. Take care, Gary
@MarklTucson
@MarklTucson 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the pattern making work you did. That is a craft that requires great skill.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark. It was a job I knew I wanted to do when I was in high school. There was a pattern shop behind where I lived. As a young boy I did not know what they were doing but wanted to do it. In high school I found out what it was and set out to get an apprenticeship. Thanks for watching, Gary
@moonwoodworks4607
@moonwoodworks4607 2 жыл бұрын
Great information Gary, thanks for sharing.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim! Take care my friend, Gary
@arleyloeffler8205
@arleyloeffler8205 Жыл бұрын
i REALLY like your videos. I learn something or am reminded of good practices from virtually every one of them
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them Arley and I appreciate you taking time to comment. Happy New Year, Gary
@dougpeters4395
@dougpeters4395 2 жыл бұрын
Great information Gary. Really appreciate all the stuff I have learned since I started watching your channel.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug and thanks for watching. Gary
@driftingwild455
@driftingwild455 Жыл бұрын
Really grateful for your video. I'm relatively new to turning and keep getting the odd catch. The latest was yesterday when a lovely birch bowl went spinning across the workshop, grrr...! I realised it had to be something to do with the position of the tool and now I know why! Thanks for explaining it so clearly 😊
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you and happy it helped. The more you turn the more comfortable you will get with using the tools. It becomes second nature to have the tool in the right place. Those catches can wake you up for sure. Best of luck and have a great time turning, Gary
@leenoble7472
@leenoble7472 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great explanation. Thank you so much.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lee, happy you enjoyed it. Gary
@steverobbins9419
@steverobbins9419 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary very informative. I like using the carbides. I tend to keep them horizontal and on the centre line but will try adjusting them slightly. 👍👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. As long as you are right on the center line you should be fine. It is when you do not pay attention and wonder off the wrong way is when it becomes a problem. Take care, Gary
@oneturnatatime6309
@oneturnatatime6309 2 жыл бұрын
Nice info. I did start with carbides and up to this day that whenever I get a catch with the traditional tool ( still practicing) , carbide is my go to 😊
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That is the way to do it. Practice with those gouges and you will reach a stage where that is all you will want to use. But remember there are places where the carbide will be easier and work better. Take care, Gary
@stephendonathan6782
@stephendonathan6782 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm glad you did this video because I bought a swanneck carbide tool to do hollow forms. I kept getting catches and couldn't figure out why. So thank you very much for sharing this! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephen. The swan neck tool is tricky to begin with and if you are off a little it can be nearly impossible. God bless and take care my friend, Gary
@Bbutler787
@Bbutler787 2 жыл бұрын
Most excellent video on carbide cutters.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bruce, glad it was helpful. Take care, Gary
@jimmy1dee
@jimmy1dee 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative presentation, I believe that this will help make my carbide tools more friendly, thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jimmy. Happy you found it useful. Happy turning, Gary
@kevincale1366
@kevincale1366 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Always happy when I’m learning
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin, happy you enjoyed the video. Take care, Gary
@jayscott306
@jayscott306 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson, Gary. Carbide has been an enigma to me at times and this reinforced what I think I misunderstood, at the beginning of my journey. Initially, I was dependent on them, to the point I was ready to buy a shirt I saw Carl wearing, something like "Traditional Carbide" written on it. Then I got some sharpening and gouge instruction, leaving carbide behind, almost completely. Every time I used them after that it seemed like I'd get an unexplained, unpredictable catch, so why use them. The exception was, of course, for some resin final cuts. However, I was almost always defaulting to the EWT negative rake round cutter. Occasional projects called for carbide, so I'd begrudgingly pull one out. Something changed and I began trying them again. I think my ingrained technique left me and I had fewer troubles with regular cutters, finding them helpful for hollowing, with a fresh approach. Now that I've made a hefty handle for an intended hollowing tool, and watched this video, I want to give them another shot. I might need the new tool for my biggest bowl, yet, sitting on my little blue mule. Toolrest is a bit short and my long flute is singing, hanging over the rest, so far. Explains to me what Richard Raffan and Stewart Batty have said about long flutes causing more vibration than a short flute, especially when extended far. Thank you for the helpful information and demo, Gary!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay! I think you have come to the right place. Use the tools that work best for you at the given time. I am not much of a tool purest and you can tell by looking at my home built bars for my carbides. Not all nice and shiny like the ones you can buy. I was going to use stainless steel stock but went with the cold roll which works just as good. So I use carbides when I think they will work better. Such as hollowing out a piece of Black Locust with a small opening. Take care, Gary
@RayWhitbyCreations
@RayWhitbyCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to get one of those overgrown negative rake scrapers! Still need to learn how to hollow the base for narrower aperture bowls/vases.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
I love that big scraper. Almost feels like cheating...but I am fine with that. Take care, Gary
@JiggsysShed
@JiggsysShed 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Gary, very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and thanks for watching. Gary
@WoodenItBeNice
@WoodenItBeNice 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, Great explanation on presentation of carbide tools. Lovely little bowl as well. Take care my friend. Hwyl, Huw
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Huw, this was perfect for a cold weather video. It is 26 right now so not sure when I will start the next one. But my heater will keep me warm enough. Take care, Gary
@timothyhatch4985
@timothyhatch4985 2 жыл бұрын
Ah that explains that catch on the inside... Too Big of a bite... Great Info Thanks Gary.. So now I know.. time to put it to use on that Burl I'm working on when I get home...
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Timothy and have fun turning the Burl. Take care, Gary
@carolriley8472
@carolriley8472 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video...loved it! Wow, that was one huge piece you turned!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carol. That one in the small shop I did shortly after finishing my apprenticeship. In the shop I went to where you see me turning there was a large post lathe to the right out of site. I did turn a ring almost 8 foot in diameter but was only about 4 or 5 inches thick as I recall. Wished I had taken pictures of everything I built. But I did take a lot. Thanks for watching, Gary
@glen3257
@glen3257 10 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this video. I have switched to carbide as traditional catches have scared the crap out of me with catches such as the scew chisel (aka widow maker). I am so excited to turn my Lathe back on and make shavings!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Glen. For sure it is hard to get comfortable on the lathe if you have a fear of a tool. I seldom use a skew for the type of turning I do. Have fun using the tools you are comfortable with. Gary
@rroe5718
@rroe5718 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job of showing and explaining this important issue
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@alinmayerthorpe7801
@alinmayerthorpe7801 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great tutorial Gary and I learned a lot having never had any instruction on turning! I love my carbides and by trial and error found that keeping them in the center of the work is the best way to use them! Thanks! Cheers Al
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Al and yes the center should work fine. Thanks for watching, Gary
@danielolynych7213
@danielolynych7213 Жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, I always learn something new when I watch your videos. I got away with very little catches by rotating the carbide tip downwards when turning the inside now after watching this I was in the wrong position which makes a lot of since. STILL LEARNING Thanks for the lesson!! Dan
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan, happy you enjoyed the video, You can tilt a carbide tool and it will cut much like a negative rake scraper and have much less catches. The makers of the popular carbide tools say to keep the tool level. That is where it is important to have it on the right side of center. Thanks for watching, Gary
@kentturkow1572
@kentturkow1572 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video, always interesting to have technics explained.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kent and thanks for watching. Gary
@BuiltbyBill1
@BuiltbyBill1 2 жыл бұрын
Great information, Gary. I have three carbide that I made, two round and one square and a holler with multi bits that my son got me. Not long after I started using it I got a catch and bent it near the handle. I have since discovered that I was being heavy handed. Ever turning is a learning experience. Have a good day. Bill
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bill, I made all the handles and bars for my carbides as well. And I buy the inserts in bulk. Ten for the price of 1 of the others, Thanks for watching, Gary
@stevefromlondon9175
@stevefromlondon9175 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video it was a great help Regards Steve London UK
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. Happy you found it useful. Take care, Gary
2 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend, Congrats on the project and smart way of working that hides great experiences. Thank you for this useful information. The design you translated that huge years ago was magnificent and impressive. I was also impressed by the shop you served in your apprenticeship. Details were beautiful. See you. Big greetings.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much my friend. It was a great shop to learn in. Being a small shop I started building patterns from day one. A big shop it is a few years before they turned you loose on your own project. I worked there for 11 or 12 years then moved to the largest shop in town. Lots of equipment and much better. But I am grateful for learning in the small shop with the machines we had. Thanks for watching, Gary
@kathleenposton2334
@kathleenposton2334 2 жыл бұрын
VERY informative, Gary!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kathleen and thanks for watching. Gary
@jeffharvey8283
@jeffharvey8283 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It seems so obvious now, but I sure wasn't getting it. This explains a lot of the mistakes I have made.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jeff. Happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching. Gary
@ACKSWOODPASTE
@ACKSWOODPASTE 2 жыл бұрын
Good info GARY, they can be dangerous, 2 years ago I had a carbide catch and it kicked back and up so hard, it cracked 2 of my ribs, no fun.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom. For sure they can be dangerous and scary. If someone got a catch the whole shop would hear it and look over toward the lathe. Take care, Gary
@marcellarose6945
@marcellarose6945 Жыл бұрын
Great info....it has been certainly a catchy problem for me.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcel!
@terryflynn2791
@terryflynn2791 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting a d helpful Thans Gary.Terry downunder
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you Terry and thanks for watching, Gary
@GordonRock1
@GordonRock1 2 жыл бұрын
So that’s what I’ve been doing wrong. Everything! 😃😃😃 Great tutorial, Gary. That really clears up a lot of questions for a lot of us turners. Thanks for sharing your expertise. As always, you da man! Stay well, my friend. …..Gord
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gord. I was ask about this a few years ago and then again last week. So that and the fact for us 23 degrees is cold I figured this would be quick and hopefully helpful. Oh and I have not seen you do anything wrong yet my friend! Take care, Gary
@carlprudhomme1820
@carlprudhomme1820 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your drawing illustrations they definitely helped me understand how and why the tool catches in the wood. I tried turning my first bowl last week and I had several catches I now have an understanding of what I was doing wrong and have the confidence to give it another try thanks Carl Prudhomme
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carl. Just take it nice and slow till you find out what works good for you. And above all things have fun turning. Take care and best of luck. Gary
@paulcoffey-windycitywoodwo1073
@paulcoffey-windycitywoodwo1073 2 жыл бұрын
That is great information, Gary! I've never thought about tool position above or below centerline while scraping. Also, I don't use carbide very often because I've never gotten a good finished surface with it. I'll take your tips to the shop with me and give it another try. It all makes sense now, after watching/listening to your explanation. Thanks for sharing your years of experience! Take care, --Paul
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, I do know that a good finish is possible with scrapers. I also know they can tear your work up if given the chance. I am always willing to try something new and listen to anybody who has a good tip. Thanks for watching, Gary
@woodworkingskillwithsagar8802
@woodworkingskillwithsagar8802 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice information about carbide tools' take care.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sagar, take care my friend Gary
@exotictones1054
@exotictones1054 2 жыл бұрын
Nice simple bowl that looks very nice n thanx for the info buddy.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching. Gary
@exotictones1054
@exotictones1054 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePapa1947 n that 6'er you turned was awesome.where did you work n do that stuff.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
@@exotictones1054 both those pictures were taken in the pattern shops I worked in. I worked in 2. One I served my apprenticeship in and the other I worked in till I retired almost 10 years ago. Both in Portland Oregon.
@woodturningartbyhabeebasad1020
@woodturningartbyhabeebasad1020 2 жыл бұрын
Good job brother👍🏽. yes I love my carbide tools. LOL now I know where the experience cutting coming from my friend ☺️. And we are in 80° temperature in LA 😂
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Oh gee thanks it is 80 in LA..way to rub it in! .And I thought you were a pretty good guy LOL Well it has warmed up some here but that is because we are now having rain. But that is Oregon for you. Up here we don't tan we RUST! Take care my friend, Gary
@simonrourke9817
@simonrourke9817 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you for your knowledge. I feel a bit better about using my carbide tools. 👍👍👍
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon. Happy it was helpful. Take care, Gary
@LeeEnfield308
@LeeEnfield308 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for posting this video, it was both interesting and informative, with a very nice little bowl at the end to demonstrate what you'd just been saying 👍👍🙂🙂
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Happy you enjoyed it. Very interesting name you have there. I guess different than the British 303 Enfield? Thanks for watching, Gary
@tomcoker9882
@tomcoker9882 2 жыл бұрын
Gary, I wish I had seen this before I tried bowl turning, after doing only pen turning, with my Easy Wood Tools carbide tools. I had to learn it the hard way. I learned you can get some pretty spectacular catches doing it the wrong way, and if you’re doing it really wrong, it’s surprising how far a bowl can go when your catch breaks it out of the chuck. 😉 Thanks for the video, I hopes it saves somebody else from trying the “Trial and Error” method. Cheers, Tom
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom and they say learning by experience is a good way to do it. NOT WHEN YOU JUMP OUT OF YOUR BOOTS! I know plenty have just given up after that missile gets launched and goes through a window, I have a window right in the flight path behind. I worry about some of the big pieces of bark that decide to learn to fly LOL. Thanks for watching, Gary
@glen3257
@glen3257 2 жыл бұрын
another awesome video Gary, Thank you.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Glen and thanks for watching. Gary
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi 2 жыл бұрын
THANK u gary good sound advice on tools.
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Manjit I appreciate you watching. Gary
@ianmcgrail6482
@ianmcgrail6482 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info much appreciated i have just started using carbide tools and they have a good amount of uses
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
You bet Ian. Hope it all makes sense and helps. Take care, Gary
@salvatorecaramico7104
@salvatorecaramico7104 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info, this was a really great video!
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Salvatore. Happy you enjoyed it. Take care, Gary
@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop
@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done, professor! This helps me a lot! Now, how 'bout the same info for HSS gouges and scrapers! How 'bout we all just meet at your place for a class lecture? I'll bring the Pringles! 😊😋🤣 Phil
@ThePapa1947
@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Phil. Scrapers would work just like the carbides as far as catches go. As you know those gouges have a mind of their own. You decide to let the wing touch wall on the inside and the gouges lets you know that is a big NO NO! Pringles sounds good! But I would say bring your own HEAT..right now it says 34 degrees. And not sure what I will turn next but it is going to have to be a quickie! Stay warm buddy! Gary
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