Gw2 Mysteries: The Thaumanova Reality

This will either be amazing or an incoherant mess, enjoy!
The further and further into lore on the reactor I looked, the further away I got untill suddenly I was right back where I started: The living story.

[@BartmossTV]

The theories in your video are so much better than what we got. Btw - video suggestion: Revisit all of these mysteries videos, and compare how they panned out and/or udate them. Doing all in one video should give you enough material to make it worthwhile.

[@affey]

Revisiting this video after so many years. This video got me super interested in the lore! I remember basically reading the entire wiki and visiting every inch of the game after this. That research and exploration really supercharged my excitement for the game back then, trying to figure out how everything pieced together in S1/S2. And I'm still playing :)

[@kekskdjhflsdkfs]

Your gw2 mysteries series doesn't get the recognition it deserves. I can tell you've really put time and effort into telling this in a way that is enticing towards the next discovery and I hope you continue. Love these videos WP keep up the good work!

[@LordOntario]

GW2 Need to do a spotlight on you in some way. Thanks to you a lot of their lore is getting out the the public in a very well done way. Thanks for the loads of time you put into these videos! Keep it up for as long as you can.

[@TehUriel]

You were right! When you finish the tower of nightmares with an Asura that had the infinity ball Scarlet comments on it! You were friggin right!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Ahaaha so I have heard! But I don't think its complete confirmation :P

[@ch0biq]

Scarlet comments on every personal story selection/order/endstory (if completed).

[@paranoid492]

youve done it again, pots. there's so much realistic evidence from you that this is pretty much CONFIRMED. Your podcast fills a very large hole in guild wars 2 in game lore because of the puzzle like nature of all the 3 setence conversations with in game characters. im so thrilled that the lore is actually alive and thriving and i had NO IDEA it could be this dark!

[@CervarianMusic]

WHOA, look at the text the PC's clone says @ 29:16 "Just like the battle of Divinity's Reach"... I have no doubt in my mind, now, that the Aetherblades, Steam Creatures, and even the Watchknights are all connected. Thank you, WP, that latter part may be a theory but... the way you hunt this down and put it all together for us is just amazing. I really, REALLY, hope A-Net can pull whatever it is they're attempting to do here off, because this looks like it's going to be amazing.

[@LordIsra]

Oh my god, I am almost shivering, listening to you and imagining what could happen later in-game! This living story is getting so intense and you are such an awesome storyteller! All you said seems possible and I am thrilled to discover the truth in a couple weeks/months.

[@christopherjensen3034]

Don't really know where to message you so it all comes here: Thaumanova data. It's the Researcher right at the entry to it that states it used to be a city. Also states. Inquest had a lab - deep below - the city. Very interesting places to do mysteries/lore about- Ruins of the Unseen -Caledon forest the secret Skritt door with the Eye's of the Unseen behind. Aurora remains+ hidden lake+ interesting bridge and area portal you can't get to at Lionshead outcrop at Brisban wildlands. +human history Hunting lodge.-> whitemantle.

[@ViceDellos]

time and again you leave me wanting for answers and more to questions I didn't have half an hour before. I loved this one

[@BlindedFayt]

I LOVE this stuff. Thank you so much for doing this. I wish I had the patience to actually keep up with this in game normally but this supplement is definitely keeping me interested.

[@jokingswood]

This feels like Christmas with all this WP GW2 content. You really are the biggest reason i still play it. Awesome work.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Wait, seriously?!! YOU just blew MY mind! That's amazing and I'm incredibly sad I never put that in the video!

[@TheToshihitsu]

This truly shows why I've been following you for all this time. You got me interested into lore more than you could ever imagine. I found some mysteries myself but have never been that deep and logical with my thinking. I'm not impatient about what is about to come :)

[@RevonsRutabaga]

This is pretty awesome indeed. I love lore but I don't always pick up on everything so hearing your research bring it all together just makes it so much better.

[@NoMoreNever]

Consider me mind-blown! Although a lot seems to hinge upon a personal story choice that you may/may not see, it still makes for a compelling picture when put together like this. Now I'm suddenly seeing hidden conspiracies in even the most mundane choices you make!

[@janbouzek3917]

I've been rewatching those lately and boy do they age well. I can not express how much I appreciate your work WP keep it up! PS: still waiting for next episode of LP:D

[@glenhendler7709]

WP, I enjoyed this a lot. Your descriptive and detailed theory of the story feels more complex and interesting than anything I've experienced in game. Thank you for putting your time and thought into this.

[@GamingWithNosfero]

Wow....just wow....Props to you for figuring all these links together. Everything you said seems to play nicely together in the theory. We shall soon find out if you are right!

[@ImrazorZodd]

Oh I just LOVE these. The mere possibility of such complex story gets me excited.

[@KhaidaG]

I remember how stoked I was when after picking the Infinity Ball story line it turned out to be this massive mind blowing mystery with all this cool stuff going on. Some of the most fascinating moments in GW2, hands down. To learn some more on the subject would be a-ma-zing, I'd love to see all this tie in like you explained in the video. Thank you for all the hard work, WP!

[@affey]

Still coming back to this in 2017. These speculative moments made Season 1 so incredible to me.

[@meetFacePalm]

AMAZING how ALL THIS fits SO PERFECTLY together! Great work. Subscribed

[@tashabunny13]

Wow, I never put all the spread-out pieces together like this before! Watching your video and seeing how all the little things tie together blew my mind... I am so psyched up for the fractal now... and also wondering what's about to happen on the 20th as well. AWESOME video!

[@DormantRooster]

So, I discovered your videos by chance (actually from your high crit ele build). I am very impressed with all your videos man! As a huge GW 1 and 2 fan, I think your knowledge of the lore is awesome. Very entertaining and I can only hope Anet is as vested in their lore as some of the more dedicated players.

[@MiniCinem4]

thank you very much for making this video! the way you can peice these things together is amazing and intrigues me. Plus if ArenaNet did release some information about this I would not be one to read up on it, making your video extremely helpful and eye-opening. Keep up the good work Potatoes!

[@inkthedink]

I love these mysteries. I hope you are right and that these are all tied together somehow. It gets me really excited with this game and the living story.

[@7Leksu7]

Another fantastic video WP! Your lore videos are so exciting and is part of the reason that I am still playing Guild Wars 2. Even though I love the lore for Guild Wars 2 in the first place, you make it way more interesting, you're such a great storyteller! :) Keep these videos coming! I am already looking forward to the next one! :D

[@MoskaYoutube]

This video just blew my mind. I gotta admit you did some really decent research here! Thank you so much for putting out that awesome content. Keep up the good work :)

[@MrBenim27]

Great theory! love your hard reseach ingame and through internet and thanks for sharing this video with us. I Played the infinity ball (story path? too and I got a few shivers after you repeated some parts of the dialouges and my mind was blown away too.

[@gremjs03]

I like where this is going. I hope it does somehow tie in w/ the personal story because I totally dig the alternate reality scenario we could very well see. Anything mind bending from a story perspective is amazing IMO.

[@Phasks]

OMG, I did that personal story and though it was boring because it didn't had nothing related to what I knew at time, but now, GOD. ANet is messing with our minds. Awesome Mystery, one of my favourite so far (but the series is awesome, please don't stop this, ever)

[@d0n0van2]

Damn WP your seriously the reason I still play this game. You always get me excited about the Living Story lol

[@Wastingsometimehere]

Great Scott! I didn't even know this Back To The Future like cool story line existed. I really missed out with my Asura choices.

[@MightySneaker]

When you pieced it all together at the end I just got Chills, that would be amazing to happen :D

[@FrekiundGeri]

Wow... You, Sir, are a genius! Mind=Blown Now I'm really excited for this fractal and the new living story update

[@deamonelf1998]

Omg wooden potatoe you are amazing at this i love admire your work and just wow just mind blowing thank younfor all your work just thank you so much

[@MercuryAlphaInc]

The more I think of it, the more Guild Wars seems like a storyline in Magic the Gathering... The whole "rips in space and time" thing reminds me of Timespiral. And that ain't a bad thing! I love the backstory to Magic, especially Timespiral and Ravnica.

[@eddyweaver8814]

MercuryAlphaInc What if Tyria is just a plane in the multiverse pre-mending and these Gods we worship are in fact planeswalkers and them going missing means they planeswalked to a different plane?

[@cameronmarcil1823]

It all adds up! During Dragon Bash (after sky pirates started) Ellen Kiel was the inspector of the aetherblade attack of the opening ceremony of dragon bash. She could be part of the aetherblades that are from that alternate world. Now when I think about it, it was no coincidence that she knew where the hideouts where. Thanks WP awesome vid! I'm excited for the new fractal!!!:)

[@Zephode]

O.O .......................... at the beginning i tought you were overthinking this, but at the stuff at the end.. with the asura story and stuff... wow. just wow.

[@EdgarDoiron]

ok that ending just gave me the chills! So awesome! thanks for the video

[@Watertaint]

This is a very good video, it sent shivers down my spine. I really like tinfoilhatting, especially when there is a lot of good evidence. In this case, there is. Being a Doctor Who and Lovecraft enthusiast, I can't wait until the curtain drops and we get to see what's behind it. Spasming realities, time adrift, masquerades and paradoxes are my cup of tea! I think the Queen's Jubilee is going to explode during one of the next weeks. The watchknights were controller by the mysterious figure.

[@cgrus25]

This one is really fun to watch all these years later now that we know how all this is connected to Scarlet Briar. What's interresting is to think that in that alternate reality, your character and Shodd joined Scarlet instead of defeating her. But I wonder how that related to Mordremoth?

[@TonsOfPaperBrokenPen]

Dude you always blow my mind. Keep up the intriguing work man!

[@elisethegreat]

I stopped watching your GW1 LP about a year ago, when GW2 came out and I was sucked into it... now I'm regretting that fact. I've missed your commentary, dude.

[@imthamuthaflippin]

This was amazing dude. Im about 10x pumped for the current story now than i was

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I completely agree, don't go overboard.

[@lilnataku]

wow, not gonna lie, I smiled when you pieced it all together near the end :)

[@imkluu]

Fascinating. I like time travel stories. It makes me want to play my asura more or start another to live thru it again and take more notice of what is said.

[@GalesGames69]

i love your videos man ive never liked lore in games but you completly changed that around :D

[@Easytorememberanyday]

This has to be my favourite mysteries video. Thank you so much! I can't wait to see what happens next, and hear how excited WP gets =D

[@adamryason5509]

WP, so much info... I think if you showed these places on the map or drawn out a mind map, It would've helped connect the pieces. I really liked your gw1 history series and I think I had something like that in mind

[@kimboy007]

while I know I have nothing solid to back me up this is what I feel like is "correct": as mentioned, we have scarlet as a head of the aetherblade. 'scarlet's minions' include clockwork- and steam creatures. I think that scarlet might have been sucked into "our world". might have had a pact with the inquest and might have a relationship with the one who was elected (forgot her name. I voted charr). Scarlet wanted to go back but found more potential in "our world" than at first glance, and learned about the reactor. she got the inquest to do the dirty work (without letting them in on her ulterior motives) and got an unstable portal to her world. Scarlet then needed someone with the ressources, intelligence and power to stabilize the portal. So she got kiel(was that her name) on the aetherblade side. and used her new powerfull ally to stabilize the portal. (what do I know, probably even tricked the priory; speaking of Lornar's Pass) this is definitely not finite or the answer but it's something that has been on my mind :p

[@stewartmead8801]

The best part of this video for me was when I realized that my new alt character picked the options to get this quest.

[@joshuaharrison3294]

I really like listening to your GW2 Lore, keep the great videos coming,

[@DaFailth]

Oh my god!! These mysteries and lores you let me know just makes this game so much better! My god now I can't wait for the future updates!! And the new stuff happening after 1 week in the divinitys reach birthday thingie, MY GOD!!! There HAS to be a link!

[@Elodia7772]

Mind blown. Thanks for this summary of what you've found!

[@gladjohnson3117]

Absolutely agree with WP. Came to familiar conclusion after reading everything recently. And yes, my character was the creator of infinity ball, though back then I hated my choice. Now I feel (as a character), at very least, special to guild wars lore, thing that didn't happen since game launch.

[@Zeivusgaming]

In a LW episode before HOT, where we play as Caithe, we see 'Scarlet' in her early years playing with a steam creature, trying to figure it out. That was long before any of all of that ever took place. Could the reaction explosion have sent one of them into the reach of Scarlet in the past and altered the timeline? In recent lore, she is credited to making them before moving on to her more aggressive mechanical monsters. That could explain why they don't ever stop spawning.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

You should! There are some real gems in low level personal story stuff.

[@dannytbm]

Whoah! You have blown my mind again WP! I'm going to be cleaning bits of mind off the ceiling all week.

[@XechPlays]

Jeeeeeesus, and I thought Dark Souls lore was complicated enough.

[@weisserhimmel373]

dark souls lore is pretty simple... we just have to scramble it together from almost nothing :p

[@liberte131]

continuing from "Your world is built on fog and sand" sand is the crystal desert and fog is the evaporated water when abaddon fell. the poem also goes "She has some hard lessons to teach" the lesson is to followers of 6 gods from the followers of abaddon as for thaumanova reactor... perhaps that's where the AR's and inquest made first contact. the poem also goes "time for time to stop" which could mean end of our timeline.

[@lawwix]

Oh my god!!! This was soo interdasting!!! :3 I love you potatoes! And what a coinsidence that I just did those story quests today :D

[@Oblivius33]

My mind just melted. Fantastic as usual WP!

[@shamsham8328]

Great video WP, you just blasted my mind inception style.

[@TheLKStar]

Amazing video WP! If Anet doesn't really meant all of this, I hope they watch your video and get so blown away by the ideas here that they have to make it happen!

[@ctrout_studio]

About half way through I realized where you were goin with it... Aetherblades, Inquest explosions, portals, time travel, mysterious seam creatures I always wondered about... Incredible. I have one more piece of info to add. You know how I suggested the Inquest and Aetherblades we're heavily suggested in the Zephyrites trek as "scavengers and power-mongers" trying to get crystals of Elder Dragon Power? (You can see where Im goin with this)... continued

[@BaronScaramuche]

You might very well be onto something there, mate! I also noted something passing strange during the Queens Jubilee opening event. My character, a sylvari ranger, is asked to demonstrate the combat effectiveness of one of the Queen's new Watch Knights, a new weapon in Divinity Reach's arsenal, but Logan Thackery pushes rank and takes the honor of testing the new weapon upon himself. Whereupon it is discovered that Anise, the Queen's closest personal adviser and supposed high ranking officer

[@Scribby87]

I would love for your theories to turn out to be correct. You make GW2 lore 1million % more interesting to me. Just when I think I have it all understood you blow my mind by connecting all the dots.

[@carnifex2005]

This is about the steam creatures attacking delegates. I've had them spawn in Diessa Plateau during a delegate escort mission. I thought it was weird when I first saw it but now it is starting to make sense.

[@HunHaze]

Btw WP IGN did a an interview with Colin Johnson and he said about the next patch: "It takes the story of the last year and brings it all together. It makes it clear where everything has been going and really closes a lot of open questions that players have had. It’s a story that really affects the entire world and permanently creates content and change for the entire world game-wide

[@LiveSpartan235]

Colin also had this to say in an interview with IGN "It takes the story of the last year and brings it all together. It makes it clear where everything has been going and really closes a lot of open questions that players have had. It’s a story that really affects the entire world and permanently creates content and change for the entire world game-wide, which is really something that’s important to us and we want to showcase that that’s where stuff is headed."

[@TilveranWrites]

Amazing vid! Did you see Scarlet from Living Story is sylvari? Likely she at least started as Nightmare Court, now working with Aetherblades who we know are working with the Inquest. The one place the Nightmare Court are in alliance with the Inquest is Brisban Wildlands (hello again!), where they form The Sinister Triad with the human bandits. Just north of Thaumacore IC is Fort Vandal, a very interesting and secretive, impenetrable base of the sinister triad. Has an asura gate apparently!

[@LittleV179]

I actually love this theory and wish that it might happen...it would be awesome to actually have this kind of depth in the living story.

[@TheOlian04]

Wow WP, That was awesome, I really really hope that your story is the right one :)

[@DerDave247]

Kudos to you! I don't have the time to get deep into the story. That is a shame. I love how ArenaNet is building up the living story. So few people understand this and complain about lack of experience in new game acitivities. I say there is too little story and entertainment. Sadly it will not be changed.

[@TheAzurSky]

This game is so much better when i watch your vids. Thank you!!

[@tanek_09]

If all this work is in game for the story already, voting for the Reactor fractal, we end up getting something we'd probably have seen in one format or another anyway. I can't say the same for Abaddon. A fractal may have been the best way for that, not to mention the likelihood we'd have played as the other gods. Plus, I don't know if fractals have been used as very effective story tools. Not saying they can't, just that the structure hasn't lent itself to presentation of lore or exposition.

[@LanttuLoL]

WP this is epic thanks for providing something like this once again ^^

[@silencer9031]

Dude, I thought this was interesting all the way through, but I literally was sitting with my draw dropped the last 4 minutes! Even if this doesn't come to pass, that's some serious connect-the-dots skills you go there!

[@FreakerGames]

Awesome! You found so many informations, that's insane :o I hope your theory is the right one! The evidence that you found are really disturbing...

[@ThyReaperGrim]

I was like "yeah, yeah, conspiracies, go on, go on", till at the end of the video, I got shivers down my spine. Wow. I so hope this comes out true, or at least a part of it.

[@DragonWhimsy]

I got a chill at the end with the mention of the Battle of Divinity's Reach, but even with that I didn't think this likely... until Anet sent out the clock's from Scarlet to the different fan blogs along with her poem. Some version of this theory being true looks very likely now.

[@doobybaby354]

Even if this isn't what happens, IT SHOULD. This is awesome!

[@ChristopherKing]

I can never get over just how much "extra" has been thrown in to this game that I would never know about if not for these videos

[@Greyreal.]

WP, the battle for divinity's reach, I have a feeling that is the current S4 Living story.

[@nechoh]

I love these! Also random note it would be amazing if we could see snaff in the mists and flesh out this plot device called destiny's edge

[@KiriExile]

This is amazing. I have always thought that the mysterious stranger appearing twice was fishy but I never thought that it had all this link to the reactor and such . If your theory is true... then Shodd is a crafty one.

[@MADMalekith]

They have already mentioned in an interview (Ree S I believe said it) that a big deal of writing the stories for Launch was about putting in hooks for future stories that they didn't even know when they (as in the whole LS team) would pick up again. So respect for preparation, not necessarily grand scheming/planning ;)

[@piratsik7691]

The alternate reality guys are mainly using airships. It's funny cause in every movie that's about alternate reality,airships (or "blimps") are their main means of transport.. Well played, ArenaNet

[@piratsik7691]

Oh and Scarlet says she knows a dark secret of Caithe.. Maybe Caithe is a spy from the alternate reality..

[@Watertaint]

Were after all controlled by the mysterious figure. The steam creatures pop up more and more and the flying pirates of doom are on the loose. Yep, it's going to be a good month for loremunchers. I'm even starting to get over my sorrow of not seeing the fall of Abaddon.

[@DaftPunk191]

at the end i got goosebumps as you said the aetherblades would attack divinity's reach

[@LegionsAU]

I always pick the infinity ball with my asura characters, because that scene at the end is so utterly great :D

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Untrue, steam creates have begun spawning during escort events for balloons all over the world, not just the shiverpeaks.. Those same events also feature aetherblades.

[@haloheroz]

Thanks Wooden Potatoes. Now i see everything as some sort of time traveling conspiracy theory. 10/10

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Not sure why you were flagged as spam. You're completely right, I have no degree in the languages and I read very little literature. I'm just enthusiastic online about what I like!

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

That infinity ball duplicate story reminds me of the movie, The One :P

[@officialeihoofd1161]

Maybe, one day we'll get a LS update, including the battle of Divinity's Reach. This update then also opens up the path to the map north of Divinity's Reach.

[@Roserra]

i watch these videos when i wanna relax and listen to some nice lore..