Woodturning - Very Large Segmented Vase

In this video from Bayer's Sawdust Factory, I glue up a turn a large segmented vase. The finished vase measures approximately 30" tall and 19" in diameter at the widest section.
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[@dmaschy599]

I like that large vase,I like the wood and the color variation the dark mixed with the light colored wood.

[@Little_Red_Riding_Hoodlum]

If ever there were something that epitomized "Go big or go home" this is IT! 😲

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Haha. Thanks Kerri.

[@jimmydiresta]

This would be in peaces all over my shop! Great work

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Jimmy!!! Love your work and your channel. Can't wait for the new show, whatever it's going to be, to launch. I might have to get cable for the sole reason of watching it.

[@clydeulmer4484]

Making a segmented form this big is insane. Welcome to the club :-) It turned out beautifully. A couple of things: search for the MiterSet Segment miter calibration jig. Using one has revolutionized my segmented turning. There are some good reviews here on KZbin. Second, I always make two sections, as you did, going from base/top to the major diameter, but I glue all the rings for each half using a screw press made with all thread. (I copied one that Frank Howarth made on his channel.) If the rings get bigger than my 12" disk sander (because I use PSA sanding disks and they get stupidly expensive in sizes larger than 12"), I'll glue up rings individually and use a 6" wide sanding paddle with two 3" strips of PSA sanding roll stuck on it. Make the paddle long enough to span your biggest ring, and all is copacetic. I also find that turning a disk (or disks) on a face plate and using it as an internal jam chuck from the tailstock end will stabilize long sections better than a steady rest, especially for sanding those individually glued rings. It looks like you already have a tailstock chuck adapter, so you'd be set there. Now, you know everything I do :-) Clyde

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks the pointers Clyde. Do you have any examples of a person using the sanding paddle. I'm not sure I followed that part all the way. Interested in learning more about that.

[@clydeulmer4484]

I may have mislead you by using the term "paddle" -- it's just a flat, straight board, longer than the width of your piece, with sandpaper stuck to it. For a turning as large as yours, it needs to be wide too. With the turning spinning, press the board against it, spanning both sides as close to the max diameter as possible, and apply even pressure. Since you have to have sandpaper only out at the ends, it's an effective cheap-out :-) Really, it's just the reverse of applying a stationary object to a spinning sanding disk. Clyde

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Oh ok. I think I get it now. Good idea. I'll try that in the future.

[@davidkuhns8389]

Wow, that is one monster vase. Great work!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks David!

[@DanStratocaster1]

I’m moving to Az in the near future. There’s a community wood shop. I’m looking forward to my own projects. Great job. 👍🏻

[@crood1954]

Very nice. I like the way you explained what and the why of what you were doing. Loved the sanding disk.. we have all made that kind of mistake. You were just brave enough to admit it..

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Crood! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@nevesvw]

A perfect class vase segmented, amazing thanks

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Ronaldo!

[@rodney73991]

34"01 didn't even know that 4 wheel support even existed. that Nice for sport big pojects

[@chriswilson7499]

Outstanding. I have been turning a while now. Only 10 max diameter. I just got my Christmas from Wife a Grizzly 22" X 42" lathe cant wait till I can do what you just did. Great job on yours.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Awesome. Sounds like your wife really knows how to shop. Ladies take note. With a 22” throw you’ll really be able to make some big stuff. I have to go on the out board to do anything bigger than 20”. Have fun and be safe.

[@chriswilson7499]

Yes. I love mine. cant Waite to have videos of it?

[@clintmyrick4128]

Great idea with the brads. I'm going to do that on my next one! Also, I think you convinced me to stick with a disk sander instead of a drum.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

The disk sanding is more work but better for the larger rings. I still wish I owed a drum sander. Maybe when I get a bigger shop I'll own one.

[@judyfrancisco936]

Nice job I love the dark wood .Thanks

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thank you Judy. Glad you liked the project.

[@thefish5861]

I love the dual grit sanding wheel!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Haha... glad you liked it fish. It was kind of a happenstance...

[@kristinwise4580]

Magnificent. You are a true artisan. :)

[@Garver2008]

This is awesome man! Beautiful vase. It amazes me to watch the level of detail needed in order to produce such quality work. I wouldn't expect anything less than the best from you though. Great work.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks man! Glad you liked the project. It was a challenge, that's for sure.

[@michaelhunter2425]

You appear quite handy. Perhaps you should make a steady rest to help with the vibration. Beautiful piece. Out of my league!

[@mamabearssheshedtracykeato6941]

This was the first video I have seen of yours. I just ran upon it, and I have to say this is one massive segmented vase! I truly would love to know the math that you would have to have figured out building that thing! Many blessings to you! You will see me again Josh Bayer.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Tracy. Glad you enjoyed the video. And thanks for the comment.

[@armandocasasconcosas9651]

excellent, very nice piece, congratulations.....👍🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖

[@artofnoly9754]

Amazing! Thanx for sharing.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@clifforddalton3067]

well done with the `improvisation`, sometimes in life this is what we have to do isn't it?. Very nice vase, well done.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Clifford and thanks for watching.

[@timvanmonero2720]

what a beast!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Yes it was.

[@sapphodesigns2377]

Well done..looks fantastic..love it.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thank you Fifi

[@randywood4782]

Hello good job I like where do you get 😏 big peace of walnut 😊

[@glennicholson3028]

I'm glad that thing didn't explode on you. Last few cuts, just about done, that's when it happens.......cool steady rest

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Glen. Yes I am familiar with the old last-minute-failure. That can be very frustrating. I played it same on this one and left the wall quite a bit thicker than I normally would.

[@SattvaWoodworks]

I just completed something similar. Very nice.

[@jorgemaldonado5575]

So beautiful, I love it

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Jorge!!! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tomasarguinzoni9022]

Beautiful piece of art my friend. 👍🏼

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Tomas!

[@sjscreations2608]

Josh, shit the amount of time, effort and creativity in this project is bloody impressive! You are one to be watched. I subscribed today and I'm not going anywhere!! Congrats on the gorgeous piece of art, cheers Sean

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Sean!! Glad you appreciate the time and effort put into the projects.

[@timvanmonero2720]

love it

[@deborahmcqueen3362]

Beautiful work

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thank you!

[@Splash111]

Curious. Did you use a "floating" base or solid wood ?

[@Marlucant]

Wow 😲

[@adamquincey4371]

Excellent...!! Cheers...

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Adam.

[@adamquincey4371]

Awesome...!! Cheers...

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Cheers to you too. Happy new year!

[@johnhorsfall3281]

Amazing man Just amazing

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks John!

[@chandarussell]

Wow. Very nice and very big. What are the two woods? Walnut and maple??

[@janardusekov7724]

hello great it turned out and how long it took for this miracle.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Honestly I can’t even remember how many hours I spent on it. It was quite sometime though.

[@donbeveridge997]

Really nice work! What patience you have.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Don. I don't have much patience so this was a real lesson for me.

[@woodstermangotwood]

Your third one? I'm impressed and what a beautiful piece of art. Makes me want to get to work. 60/80 LOL!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Go for it Odie! Thanks for watching. Glad you liked it.

[@miroboy25]

60/80 :)))) so funny

[@keithdavis4056]

That thing is a beast! Beautiful work! I'm a new subscriber

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Keith.

[@jasonditomaso4822]

what angle do you cut wood on for rings?

[@lionelthain6977]

Hi Do you have some software to calculate the size of each segment?

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

Just BIG and SPECTACULAR! ! Wonder how much this would cost ?

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Not sure how much it would cost. Never tried to sell one ... maybe 2.5 K. Think that’s too much?

[@andyfermanich9956]

Looks good. If your going to do more of these id sugget spending an hour to build a wedgie Sled. makes cutting perfect segments so easy.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Andy. I like using my chop saw. Makes perfect angle cuts every time. I've made a couple sleds in the past and found they take awhile to setup and tend to wear out or get sloppy over time. Chop saws have such good toleranceing these days.

[@gaetancrepeault9333]

Your sound so loudest of trooper race on Hwy Doing very good work SORRY

[@janardusekov7724]

best of all, and what is the price if not a secret.

[@bassinbob1965]

Hi Josh. I just subscribed this morning and havn't watched any other videos yet but could you tell me where i can get the giant disc sander that you are using or if there is a video how to build it. This is good stuff this segmented turning. I have learned a lot and realized how critical accuracy is. You do really good work and I appreciate how you always try to do things right. Thanks so much for taking your time to make and post videos. Sharing the knowledge is appreciated. Peace.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Robert. Glad you enjoyed the video. If you watch the big vase video you’ll see me make the big sanding disk. I used some old particle board shelves glued together is double layers. Then I use some spray adhesive to attached some 80 grit sand paper. Attach the face plate and walla! You have yourself one giant disk sander. Or small one if you please. They come in really handy . And when they wear out I reuse them some something else, attach more sand paper, or just set them on the burn pile. Keep on turning!

[@giovanni7426]

fantastico eccezionale.

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks!

[@toddmatthews2025]

How many degrees do you cut your blocks. And do you stay with same degrees to make a bigger ring or just add more blocks to make ring bigger

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Todd each piece makes up 20 degrees since there are 18 pieces per ring. 18*20=360 degrees of the circle. To get the 20 degrees cut each side of the segment to 10 degrees. I just used my mother saw for this project with the angle fixed at 10 degree. Each piece in a single ring has to be exactly the same length. Or there will be big gaps at the glue points. To make bigger or smaller diameter rings you change the length of the segment. Check out Jerry Bennett’s videos on segmentology to see some amazing segment techniques and project rings. He does a great job.

[@denisefox1749]

Great work Josh! It's beautiful:) How long did it take to make?

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks Denise. I don't really know. Took me about a month to complete. Probably a couple hundred hours.

[@antonionunes6404]

Lindo!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks.

[@gregj2647]

How did you attach the large sanding disk to the lathe? Faceplate?

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Actually I screwed a small disk of wood that acts as a tenon that I put in a chuck. My other sanding disk is just put on a face plate. Either way works good. Attaching directly to a face plate is probably the best way to go.

[@lesschramm9535]

How many hours start to finish?

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

I can’t remember anymore. Quite a few.

[@michaelhunter2425]

Whoops, ya got one. Sorry, should have waited. Why didn't you use it before?

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

I didn't use it on the bottom because the diameter was too big. The one I have doesn't accept a very big diameter. I was thinking about making one that takes a bigger diameter.

[@poepiebuitendijk9169]

Awesome!!! Can you please take the earphones away from your body while working the lathe - from an old mother. Otherwise: impressive!!!

[@JoshBayerWoodturning]

Thanks. Don’t worry about the head phones... it’s hoodie draw strings you have to watch out for... speaking from experience ...

[@hillbilly59apache59]

Awspme

[@mardeeda]

holy shit hahah