Woodworking / How to Keep the Price Down and Get the Job

How to keep the price down and get the job.
Good morning everyone! A few years ago, Jeff and Rob built a custom cabinet for a client in Hoboken made of solid cherry. In this episode, Jeff explains how to match the existing solid wood project with plywood to keep the price down, and get the job.
Thanks for watching and have a great day.

[@robertdemarco7989]

Looks Awesome Jeff

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks, Rob!

[@williamellis8993]

Looks great, Jeff. Some of the same money saving tips you've given us before. A reminder never hurts. Bill

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks, Bill!

[@sapelesteve]

Terrific job on building that shoe cabinet Jeff & Rob! 👍👍🔨🔨

[@redscortgt93]

Sadly Rob retired, but still great work as always.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks, Steve!

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Correct. Thanks!

[@jgbcodemonkey]

Terrific work as always, Jeff. I better not let my wife see this ... she'll get ideas! 🤣

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Hahaha 🤫

[@bobmartin6055]

Outstanding craftsmanship! I really like that hdf door, looks super clean. Thanks for sharing!

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks so much! 🙌🏼

[@ericklodnicki]

Jon is right, it's a beautiful color combination. Gonna have to check out those Salice slides on some 36" wide drawers I have coming up. Great video as usual, thanks fellas. 🎯

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks, brother! The Salices will be perfect.

[@emilevoyer123]

THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO .

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Our pleasure!

[@jamiemajerick91]

I solely use Salice slides now after trying them a few months back, per your recommendation! Next painted project I have I’m giving nuDoors a try. That is a beautiful piece.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Glad you like the Salice! They’re amazing slides.

[@jimgeelan5949]

Are the clients asking for a rebate on the over build for the first build 😮😊 ? Only joking just shows how you can save money when you’re pushed. Nice build

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Value engineering!

[@danyodice1048]

Great video as always...🤘🤘🤘

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thanks again!

[@pslnuke]

Jeff, Another great video. Just curious how much did this option save your client vs. the original work? 10%, 30%?....

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Thank you! That’s proprietary information 😝

[@redscortgt93]

I have a face frame question. Everybody on youtube glues their face frames directly to the cabinet box. My buddy’s dad is old school and makes and dados the face frame and then builds the box to that face frame. Have you ever heard of this?

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

I’ve heard of that but honestly IMO it’s a waste of time. What is going to be happening to these cabinets that they need to survive an atomic blast?

[@Mopardude]

Was there design talk about not doing pullout shelves to be able to do at least that one side in real cherry? As much as I like pullout shelves I feel like for shoes its doesn't add to the function of the cabinet, like pulling out a shelf looking for the correct can of veggies would do. You know what I mean? Plus you can always add them in later.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Do you have kids? The shoes end up piled 3 layers high and a mess 😂 but I get your point!

[@Mopardude]

@@TodaysCraftsmen Yea I get that. I was just looking at it from the point of view, that its funny what people will cut corners on, with a little planning and patience they could have it all eventually. I am also assuming they have particular tastes if the originals where made full cherry.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Honestly I think making it out of solid cherry is a waste and poses more potential risk. That’s a lot of wood movement to mitigate.

[@sethhamilton5824]

What is the finish, and how do you deal with having less hours to bill? Do you just make sure you have more jobs in the pipe?

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

This is Vesting LED Hardwax Oil. Yes, more lower dollar jobs.

[@finison1]

Do you know if poplar moves as much as the maple did ? We had maple bow over time as well. Looking to lower cost solid woods that would be painted, I would think poplar as a potential choice.

[@warrenwerks]

I’ve had better luck with soft maple over hard for panted stuff. Seems a little more predictable but poplar works well too

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Poplar is a pretty common painted wood.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Yes. Hard maple is a PITA.

[@t.e.1189]

Nice job Jeff. I'm curious how would you replace just one stile on a warped door? Maybe a video idea for you, never seen one do that.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Gotta cut it off and recut the joinery! Almost as slow as making an entire new doors.

[@t.e.1189]

@@TodaysCraftsmen I assume you would cut it at the end of the tongue all the way down the door. Is that correct? Seems like you would get blow out when routing the rails (perhaps you could protect the last on going through the cutter). And wouldn't the panel cause issues, perhaps shaving small amounts off the face especially if it's a flat panel (which would not be fully supported on the table top) having the tendency to tilt. Then there would no doubt be the pain of refinishing, brushing or spraying the new stile (bare wood) into several existing finish coats on the door, seems like there will be a lot of build up around where the match up. I'm sure you would do a much better job than me. Sounds like a huge headache, but I'm willing to learn. If you ever feel so inclined please show us you secrets.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Yeah cut the stile off leaving the entire tongue on the rail. Then clean up the rail by hand and glue in a new stile. If it already has finish on it you may as well start over!

[@t.e.1189]

@@TodaysCraftsmen Okay that makes more sense cleaning up the rails by hand. Thanks

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@TimeToBuild2024]

She's a beaut, clark

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@oliver299d]

what did you finish the cherry with? I have tried the enduro and like all the water borne stuff it has horrible color over wood.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

This is Vesting LED cured hardwax oil. Matching the old finish.

[@oliver299d]

@@TodaysCraftsmen ahh ok, do you use the enduro clears?I have tried the samples and they work well but the color of the materials is less than desired as all waterbased has always been, on maple it's fine

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Looks great on maple definitely. I’ve sprayed shellac sealer first to get the grain to pop then enduro on top. Straight enduro looks good on white oak too for that subdued look.

[@oliver299d]

@@TodaysCraftsmen there is no issue with using a shellac sealer it sticks to it ok?

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Worked fine for me! But maybe I got lucky? I’ve always heard you can spray WB over solvent as long as you wait a few days.

[@colinlye280]

Can undo a video showing you scribing this to the wall of possible guys.

[@TodaysCraftsmen]

Very tough shooting on site but we do have a video on scribing!

[@jeffbaker8808]

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[@TodaysCraftsmen]

😝😝😝 that’s right!