Andy, great video as always. I’ll have to agree and disagree respectfully. I bought my CNC in January and without knowing anyone with a CNC or CAD/CAM software. I jumped aboard head first. I knew the CNC and software would be pricey, but looking back over the last three months, the additional ‘stuff’ I need up costing more. Other than you and Garrett from IDC woodcraft, that’s about all the knowledge I had. I ended up buying a Sienci MK2 48x30 and enjoyed assembling and learning all about it. When there is an issue, I could figure it out. I started with making some stuff for myself and family members. Word of mouth spread quickly and now have requests from many and I can barely keep up with demand. I’m just about to break even with all the expenses I started with, and just put in an order for the Altmill which is a beast! Thanks to your inspiration and knowledge to go from 0-100 and I’m not even a pro yet. I still have lots to learn but excited to become better with every project. I may sign up for your course since there is so much to learn.
@ianwashere123455 ай бұрын
Thank you @ifwooddesigns for the encouragement.
@gardeninggonewild4842Ай бұрын
Very valuable information Andy. I get the bug for success when watching videos like this. Now its a matter of get off yer rocker and go to work. Thanks for your expertise and time in providing such awesome perspectives.
@gardeninggonewild4842Ай бұрын
Thanks for the indepth look at CNC success. I'm going to sit with a bag of my favorite caramel popcorn and watch the full 3 hours of step by step guidance on how to become successful work a cnc. Thanks Andy
@tetleyk10 ай бұрын
As a 67 year old man approaching retirement and looking to try and make a side hustle of my making, as a part-time income only, I have found your insights and the insights of some other KZbinrs, including some that you have interviewed, to be most useful. My main problem is that I am an extreme introvert and the idea of going out to sell my services is something that I really cannot contemplate. If you are not such an Introvert as I you will not understand just how difficult is would be to try and sell, even at the local craft fair. So, your comments about selling to the sellers struck a chord as did another KZbinr who noted that the vast majority of his work came from other workshops that had run out of capacity to make enough of their own products and were farming out that production to small shops like his. I found both of these to be very encouraging to the point that I am looking forward to making a few things to use as demonstrations of what I can achieve. Many thanks.
@AndyBirdBuilds9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the message! We all have limitations but by identifying them we can come up with a plan to still get the results that we desire!
Ай бұрын
Thanks
@AndyBirdBuildsАй бұрын
Thank you!
@kevinrich4637 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! Getting ready to ramp up my side hustle for the first time!
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Enjoy!
@michaelgmyers Жыл бұрын
Hope to be there soon myself
@kevinrich4637 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelgmyersvery cool. May I ask where/how you will be selling? I found a local makers/pickers market that rents booths. I took some of my stuff there and they asked me to rent a booth when one opens with them.
Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I am just in phase when considering if to leave my well paid IT position and start doing wood products. This gave me a very good overview of what it takes to start using CNC router to find a new way to earn money from something which is much closer to my heart than working for big companies.
@lt13766 ай бұрын
this is gold man, thank you for sharing
@akiddoo81138 ай бұрын
Thank you! One of the most informational videos I have ever watched. Having been a small business owner for the past 30 years - you nailed it dude! You reminded me of some things I knew but have a need to revive. I own a small copy/print shop (est 1899) and am trying to add laser as a side line to my existing customer base.
@janetpersons80307 ай бұрын
Great video very informative.
@jajcontractfurnitureinc.3867 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for all of your hard work and advice.
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@markpastor42425 ай бұрын
Very impressive video, a long video but the content and passion put in is amazing,, thanks Andy, inspiring, I’m a aging adult that has been through a large plant closure and was hoping to work a couple more years at the current employer, but, my mind set changing and I don’t if I continue to work for another huge corporation the rest of my days, I built a bench top CNC to make pcb boards for a hobby, then built a 4 foot by 8 foot floor model, to expand my limits, you and your channel have GI even me some clarity on where I may go next,, thank you for all your efforts and time to help us all ,,
@AndyBirdBuilds4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it! 😀
@richardmitchell786 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very encouraging. 👍
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
You got it! 👍
@VoeltnerWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Some great tips, Andy!
@abw5075 Жыл бұрын
Andy, Great lecture on small business and your journey! My question, sequencing... you have an idea and then go to a design software to CAD view your idea? I'm a total novice and looking at purchasing a CNC machine. My thought is prior to purchase, work on a CAD/CAM design because the learning process on how to use the software is critical before I commit big $$. I don't want to detract from my enthusiasm. Thoughts? Alton W.
@AprilAllYear Жыл бұрын
Speaking from experience (often called wisdom thru mistakes), you are right on. I have a decent technical/graphic background, but jumped right in and got a CRC router •before• I learned the software. BIG mistake! I’m spending way too much time working out there how and not nearly enough time with the what - ie, MAKING the products! Back to you, tho: maybe find someone with a cnc like you want or at least who idea the software you will, and see of they will mentor you and/or let you try out your designs. Maybe find a local makers space. But DO learn software so you will be much less frustrated by the obstacles you see between you and your production (by obstacle, I mean your knowledge of the software). Good luck!
@montagecrazy4u11 ай бұрын
You earned a sub my friend👍
@AndyBirdBuilds11 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@TheSonny84 Жыл бұрын
I've been working with cnc machines at home for a while. This is also my profession, but it is different. I've been doing it at home for several years. First with a small machine, which I quickly outgrew. So I got a bigger one. Similar to what you have. And I'm also shocked to see the first pieces. I have improved a lot. You give a lot of good advice, all of which require a complete person. Or more. Great video, keep it up. A Hungarian guy 💪🤘
@senseinathan1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, I'm only 10 minutes into the video but I feel that this would make a great pod cast series.
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
It does!
@PMC71411 ай бұрын
Andy, I just came across your channel. GREAT STUFF!!! Thanks for sharing your insight!
@anthonyegner138211 ай бұрын
One your best for KZbin Mate
@roblillicrap9014 Жыл бұрын
that's a masterclass of small business....not just side hustles and/or wood working. Well done Andy.
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad it was helpful
@williamledger189311 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the insight
@LisaHShields11 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy!
@ratfunkblue10 ай бұрын
15 years of being out of woodworking… about to get back in!
@AndyBirdBuilds10 ай бұрын
Woohoo!
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
I like that organizer for wax paper etc
@I-sed-no Жыл бұрын
Great info, I REALLY appreciate the info. Everyone who is looking at "return on investment" please don't exclude the time you spend from that equation. Your time is probably the most valuable expenditure. If you spend $3000 on a CNC and then make $3000 next month selling items you made, you owe it to yourself to track the amount of hours you spend in the shop, milling, sanding, prepping, learning, marketing, selling, doing your taxes, paying for shipping, preparing items to ship, purchasing more supplies, managing social media etc. It's not just about recouping your cash investment with sales. I know everyone already knows this, it's common sense and this video is certainly not implying this isn't important. Just making that point for anyone considering jumping into this venture.
@fezwhy9 ай бұрын
Well said. I think the $ per hour is a lot less than we think it is once you factor all those things in.
@Vipurdy9 ай бұрын
Good walk through though!
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
where do you find your kiln fdried hardwoods? I live in Indiana and have trouble finding it thats affordable to use in projects
@davefreeman468011 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to buy your lanterns file please … just getting started these are stunning , this vid is brilliant just ordered my CNC so looking forward to my journey with you….
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
Trays are a good thing especially if they have lateral support to allow stacking. I use 60 in my shop and I want more
@BShedd Жыл бұрын
So how about power consumption? Is that something I need to be aware of when using a Shapeoko 4 CNC Router?
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
the lanterns even make good night lights and ppl really like them for various seasons
@davidlappen8727 Жыл бұрын
How many products do you bring to a show? I mean both unique products and quantity.
@lenalight378811 ай бұрын
Lanterns-two holidays in fall, and one in winter. Leaves work for both and have longer shelf life in decorating sense. Also- snowflakes lantern needs to be painted white or red so it matches the rest of the Christmas decor in peoples homes :)
@errelgui96018 ай бұрын
where do you get your designs?
@TheNyhm19 ай бұрын
Wow a whole 4 yrs of experience in only 3 hours. Amazing
@larryackley7436 Жыл бұрын
Andy, I have become aware of the need to produce obsolute aftermarket parks. I first thought of casting parts and have now thought of using a CNC router for manfacturing . Most of the parts will be of plastic and rubber. What maching would you suggest for producing these parts?
@dylanfortin777 Жыл бұрын
Where can you find shows to attend?
@richardmitchell786 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🔨🔨🔨, 😊
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Google, Facebook Events, Word of mouth
@dylanfortin777 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyBirdBuilds thank you for the reply!
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
How much for that organizer? Id like to try one out. would you be willing to sell the file?
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
those lanterns sell good ive made so many i got tired of making them lol
@AcrylicMemories Жыл бұрын
I can honestly say that starting a business is the most exciting for me....... but the fear, doubt, and motivation slow me down............ That's where I am at right now with my acrylic business in your opinion...is the Shapeoko 5 pro the best beginner CNC? regards, Rick
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Yes
@getfastfish50209 ай бұрын
I've been running multiple businesses involving engineering/ cad design / machining for over a decade and can confidently say that unless you make your life revolve around this you'll never get a positive return. I think machining is a magical thing but it requires many thousands of hours of prototyping and testing of a single product before you can ever start to make positive sales.
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
I think this is a good video. 3 "P"s; Product, placement and pricing.
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
wow thats really good profits i cant match that. but just one of me and one machine lol
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
I find with selling i cant kep up with demand witha hobby cnc its too slow for the items i make. ok for signs but not 3d carves. finsing takes time to make it nice to help get the most from your projects Good video thanks for sharing your experiences
@Archbishop11211 ай бұрын
I'd bet that the difference with the lanterns was that you were coming up in searches for "jack o lantern" in the fall. Maybe changing the name for the "snowflake lantern" to "snowflake christmas lights" would help.
@DuaneMckenzie80 Жыл бұрын
Used to sell alot of small products on ebay. People would always complain about the fees ebay charges. I consider it this way. You have to pay for traffic one way or another. So selling on etsy, being a wholesaler, booth at retail shop, esc. You have to pay for eye balls.
@brucesmall7822 Жыл бұрын
This video really hit home with me when it comes to self doubt. I have an illness that has caused me to spend most of my time in bed. Years ago, I started making jewelry as a hobby. Just necklaces and bracelets. I literally have about 200 pieces just sitting here. Thats after I've given hundreds away. Many people have told me I should sell them. But self doubt has caused me to shy away from charging people. A few days ago I decided that come springtime, I am definitely gonna atleast try one craft show. After thinking a bit, I decided to start making some different woodworking projects to sell also, possibly even bringing a friend into this attempt, cause he is also unemployed, plus he has a whole wood shop in his garage, that has a couple tools that I don't have, and I have a few that he doesn't. I have a source for milled hardwood that is almost free. But the pieces are mostly small 2 to 3 ft long and 8 to 10 inches wide and 1 inch thick. I get a truckload for 20 bucks. Its their scraps. Everytime I go, I get lucky and find a few pieces that are longer or thicker or wider. Always one or two 8x8s or 10x10s that are 2 to 3 ft long. So I am still in the design faze for most projects, but I have a few that are already made and have all the kinks worked out. So there is zero money(except the 20 bucks) or even time investment involved, cause they are both hobbies I enjoy anyway, and I already have so much jewelry materials like beads, charms, clasps, and rings stocked up. So I have literally nothing to lose, besides the fees of whatever markets I choose. And if my friend splits it, then I have company and only half the risk. This video has given me alot of great ideas and also alot of confidence in this endeavor. Thanks a million. Seeing as I'm getting wood that is probably atleast 10 dollars a board ft for probably 10 cent a board ft. there is little chance for failure, but I still let a lf doubt stop me. After writing this comment, I feel really silly for letting that stop me.
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Good job! We all have things that hold us back. Keep it up
@victoryak8611 ай бұрын
Good job pressing on through the difficulties. I’m in a similar situation with a newly developing business and can commiserate, but it’s exciting as well! The wood source is a true treasure trove for you!
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
yeaah I keep getting slowed down by self doubt and I get told I dont give myself enough credit from other woodworkers which helps me over come it most times lol
@mkrayaries1280 Жыл бұрын
Shoot build a group setting where offers can come in by customers and we can pull work orders that we feel we can fill work as a collective
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
Three A rule assessment, agnolage and act
@mkrayaries1280 Жыл бұрын
In that situation why not ask to members online and a few of you each make say 100 each and send order in then everyone wins and it helps each out
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
Biology is key be it imperative or to fuel hate, love or ego
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
flags has been my best business and religious 3d crosses but they ake a lot of time to carve and finish lol
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
My lanterns are slot together flat pack design and i use velum as a light difuser and I offer options on lighting LED not tea lamp and remote control and I post videos and pics and ppl love them i just sell to friends on fb most i dont even know but word of mouth i keep getting friends requests to see my products as I dont set my profile public its friends only
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
The 3 D rule Diversify
@CaptainKokomoGaming8 ай бұрын
Really HATE the burn. It stops me from doing anything laser related. It just look so cheap and nasty. Anyone have tips on hiding or minimising that burn look?
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
People get hurt but don't die then they come back again
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
sometimes i ask my customers what they like by first showing the simulation preview before I ever cut a pc into my materials
@gardeninggonewild4842Ай бұрын
Many of you guys are making money off your KZbin channels. Are you really making money from your cnc's? I haven't watched a video yet that has convinced me that buying a cnc is a profitable venture. Could you provide all of us with a real, content filled video that will guide to success? If you did that, maybe more of us would find success like you have experienced. Thank you very much
@AndyBirdBuildsАй бұрын
Great question! I have 3 years of videos here on my channel that share my journey of making and selling
@flanikent5 ай бұрын
I guess you can't tell them the answer to fear of failure is prayer can you :)
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
and 1 offs are like you say low to on investment stay clear unless you reach the market of ppl whos willing to pay more
@ryanmcadam1 Жыл бұрын
Subbed because I’d feel bad if I just entered and wasn’t a subscriber
@AndyBirdBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest. I'm glad you're here!
@timloughman195211 ай бұрын
27 bucks to join a group get real!
@balinchainly4209 ай бұрын
Not even on your worst day?
@markhudson29979 ай бұрын
You need some work on your accounting analysis. There is no cost of sales tax. You collect sales tax and pay it back to the state. You also do not show any cost for your equipment, consumables (bits etc) overhead (portion of your home it uses electricity it uses insurance etc). Your net is not real and is inflated. You also seemingly did not count your fabrication time. I’m not sure if the h[urs you listed included that or just the sales trip. I would also assume there was cost for the show. Food hotel rental etc. I like what your doing but leading people to think they can easily make 100k is not practical in my opinion
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
all first responder flags and military branches sell good
@carloscastanyeda Жыл бұрын
Church
@bubba694511 ай бұрын
plastic wrap in cardboard box uhg most aggrivationg thing ever lol