“Catholicism and Beauty” // 2018 LA Religious Congress Talk

Bishop Barron's talk at the 2018 Los Angeles Religious Education Congress, titled “Catholicism and Beauty.”

[@andysedlak1534]

How interesting, I subconsciously introduced my Chinese wife to the church with this method. First, I introduced her to beautiful churches, shrines, and music. The beautiful made everything else clear to her.

[@AngelBien]

Architecture student here, I always held the conviction that an ordered love of Beauty made us better people.

[@raedorin979]

Thank you Bishop!!! I think it's kinda interesting because my dad used to say this. He would say, the first thing a man notices about a woman is her beauty and from that he learns the truth of her. Men pursue beauty first. He used to explain the call to the priesthood by saying priests were men to whom God had shown His Beauty in such a way that the beauty of women was pale in comparison. Just as a man will pursue the most beautiful woman to the exclusion of others, so he will pursue the Most Beautiful. I always thought that was a great way to look at it and this talk drew it all up in a new way!

[@socratesandstorybooks1109]

Honestly I’m an artist ( I write novels and poetry) at heart and it sometimes makes me angry how little beauty is talked about in a theological or philosophical context. Because it is so important the world would be so grey without it. God is the most beautiful thing ever and the arts and nature are meant to sort of reflect his beauty. Beauty is so important!

[@christophermeissner7425]

Are you suggesting Keats might've been onto something, Anna? :D

[@pedrocorrea6870]

I believe its because of how little there is to talk about. Truth and Justice, require explanation and create an openess to argument. Beauty requires no explanation and is open to no argument. One either experiences it or not. I believe beauty is the main goal of man's life and the greatest expression of the love of God. Though justice and truth are great expressions of love, I believe their main goal is to allow beauty to be fully expressed. In summation beauty is to truth and justice as love is to faith and hope. Art in the west has greatly declined in the modern era because of the loss of the understanding of its devotional purpose. The goal of art is currently seen as an perfect expression for the artist's self instead of the ever imperfect and insufficient offering at the altar as it should be. With that in mind I will pray that God grants you the gift of expressing His love for men through Beauty and that many will see your expression through the ages and be drawn into Him.

[@veronica_._._._]

One thing l don't understand is why are these various professions all artists now? What happened to musicians and writers and poets all of a sudden? and what shall we now call the original "artist" artists? these conundrums keep me awake at night 😉 as does the sheer ugliness of modern visual communication in MSM, the grotesque Picasso eyed Pepper pig, the Cyclops Minions, our poor children subjected to daily freak shows, l spose beauty is just too hard, takes too long and too much effort to master, l'm with you, mourning the dearth of beauty.

[@f.l.fargose6446]

Incredible, inspiring, challenging speech. It surely moves one to admire, appreciate Bishop Barron and the Almighty who blessed him with such oratory gift.

[@ronaldthompson363]

Thank you God and thank you Bishop Barron for this message you spoke on, I’m almost 70 and in RCIA , and have so many questions on the catechism. This answers me at such a time that is only God sent.

[@marktaylor2502]

I was raised in an evangelical presbyterian church in Colorado Springs. When I reached adulthood (18) I left because the actions of some, including deacons an elders, did not match the teachings. I tied to be an atheist but, like David Bowie, it did not stick. I tried Buddhism, lots of great mind tools but it wasn’t for me. So grateful for your teachings. I am converting to Catholicism! Maybe it’s because I am a song writer and musician, the beauty of the Mass and ritual attracted me.

[@Mimibee687]

❤your Teachings are Beautiful Jesus for a Very Long TIME …. IS my best ❤Friend.

[@sageseraphim6720]

Hour long Bishop Robert Barron talk! This gonna be good. Just so you know you played a key role in my conversion to Catholicism.

[@eileen1820]

Sage Seraphim That's so awesome! Father Barron is particularly helpful with arguments against atheism 😊😊.

[@sageseraphim6720]

Joni Lea What do you mean?

[@sageseraphim6720]

Joni Lea What are your problems with the second Vatican council? Plus wouldn't that contradict "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"?

[@sageseraphim6720]

Joni Lea You didn't answer my question. What idolatry or fornication is post Vatican 2 Catholicism doing?

[@TiffTheTyrant]

Sage Seraphim he converted me as well two years ago. I had some serious catholic FOMO

[@vragenstaatvrij777]

Brilliant lecture on beauty and faith, connecting outer splendor with inner truth. Great!

[@eileen1820]

#BishopBarronForPresident! In all seriousness, Fr. Barron has been SUCH a blessing to my teenage sons and me!

[@SisypheanSeas13]

Eileen D I'm 20 and I confer.

[@barbaragawlik9903]

Almaighty Father we are blessed having Bp. Barron.

[@margaretferrara1008]

Bishop, please forgive, but that is what your presentation does for me, God has given you such holy wisdom, that imparts that harmony, intellect, simplicity, beauty woven together to show the signs and sights of God...its as if you were touching heaven and earth...the beautiful from realism to spiritualism. Thank you. .God does not need one, yet you are his speech writer - to draw us to His BEAUTY.

[@jessevelasquez2549]

The Catholic church has so many treasures we cannot ignore...I would never go anywhere else.

[@Cameron-fv4fi]

This talk was very enjoyable and very true. I do think we look at those transcendentals backwards. When I first decided to look into Christianity I focused very much on the "truth" and logic side of things. It helped me to realize that rationality didn't have to be thrown out the window, and it helped me immensley in my decision to finally put my foot in the door of a church. Over time, however, I found myself falling more in love with the splendour of the Catholic Church. As a catechumen, my faith was deepened not so much by the arguments and apologetics, but moreso by those magnificent sounds, images, and rythymns that reflected the beauty of the Lord. It's as if even simple pictures of churches took the awe-inspiring glare of Christ in the transfiguration and radiated it out for my eyes to see. It's not something that you can necessarily describe with particular sets of words, but rather a stirring of heart and a movement towards the inherent magnificence of God. With my reception into the Church just around the corner, I hope to immerse myself more deeply in this beauty, and live by the commands and understand the depths of the one from which it came. Thank you for all your brilliant work, Your Excellency. God bless.

[@anneturner2759]

So funny, I just remembered my dad when watching a baseball or football game , he’d yell out , “ that was beautiful “, “ what a pretty move”. He’d ask , “ wasn’t that beautiful Annie”? I miss dad .

[@jasoneg3]

So many talks on KZbin are about argumentation. This is a talk about beauty and its role in conversion. There's something in beauty that cannot be reduced to reason and is a pathway to the divine.

[@villiestephanov984]

Jason McDonald : after Dante's inferno, Beatrice was known by all men as Aphrodite, the goddess. Trust me

[@rosalinacarballo2878]

8l

[@colywogable]

He is not instructing us on how to be converted by beauty. He is just giving wonderful examples of how it can happen, and explains that beauty is not superfluous to faith.

[@pedrocorrea6870]

A real experience of beauty is like a punch in the face out of nowhere.

[@traumaballz4189]

Ultimate respect to you Bishop Barron. I attended St Gerard's in Detroit. I lived around 7 mile and Evergreen . . . I played with the softball little league Browns and the Blues in 74 and 75, love, love, love the Tigers . . . I am a cradle Catholic whose grandfather was a Lebanese child immigrant (child laborer) who labored for Henry Ford as a child and worked for him as an adult. my father worked for the Rouge plant and then moved his family out of there to the west. I know God is with you and you are speaking the truth about our reality in time. Thank you for your insight. I have not heard such amazing sermons since President Washington's first address to Congress on the 30th of April I 789. I wish I could have met you when you lived in Southern California. Peace be with you.

[@hannahnymous]

Bishop, I feel compelled to say this that you are so cute and adorable in this talk. I wish there was a heart button here that I could click again and again. And I mean this with respect and admiration. You truly embodied the beautiful here and I feel more inspired to pursue the route of the beautiful as well. Thank you so much Bishop for all the work that you do. May God bless you more!

[@albertpurification985]

Bishop Barron,you are the best hero in today's society. I love you so much.

[@joancc]

What a blessing Bishop Barron is! Thank God for him...we NEED this holy man!

[@kipling1957]

Bishop Baron is an ongoing inspiration for me. Thank you.

[@JaffarDS]

I cried a bit at the last part of the talk. What beautiful words!

[@SmartishArtist37]

This brought me to tears. Thank you, your Grace.

[@staceyspargo5897]

Thank you Bishop. Your words are for the Catholics, but someone else outside of Catholic that has had an experience that moves their heart, their Soul will understand. The Lord is with you and it will be felt. May God bless you forever.

[@tonydbeasley2233]

This is absolutely a beautiful message and so very true to life; only Bishop Barron could deliver such a masterpiece in our day ...

[@janemazzola4454]

Thank you so much for this address, which I have just heard in 2022, & for sharing some of the elements of the beautiful, incl sports, that have had special import in your own life. Today I received your book, CATHOLICISM: A JOURNEY TO THE HEART OF THE FAITH, which I had ordered. I haven't had time to read it, but in perusing it, I am drawn to the wonderful graphics, b&w as well as color pages therein, the BEAUTY first as you describe in your talk. When I do a review for Amazon, this will be included, to encourage those like myself, who are word people, but also, very visually & musically oriented & transformed.

[@Petre66CA]

An inspiring talk for the objective value of the beauty

[@OcapeOcape-rp3hn]

Bishop Baron, saya mohon lindungilah saya dan saya akan bersaksi, saya bersaksi berbicara dari awal sampai akhir, dan saya akan bersaksi tentang kemuliaan yang terjadi

[@johnmartinalde5026]

Great talk Bishop Barron.

[@heritageliturgical2257]

Thank you for your comments about Art and the importance of Beauty in our life, and in the life of the Church. Would that we would all take it more to heart!

[@swansdofly]

Magnificent. Thank you Bishop Barron.

[@marilynh1153]

As an artist, looking at a landscape, or a person, I want to depict that image in such a way , that if I can do it even with limits to my skill, so that the center or soul of the subject of my attempt can be shared to other viewers. Bishop Barron's talk made me appreciate , wildly, my gift and my Catholic faith.

[@freedominion7369]

Thank you, Bishop Barron! ✝️🙏

[@louisbelzil3105]

Wonderful talk. I joined a tour of Chartres with Malcolm Miller in 1988. Nice to hear his name again.

[@smariaelenalarreaosf8933]

Extraordinary talk.

[@ritabiro5105]

Mr. BHISOP l started to read oce Claudels "seidene schue" and long time ago l visited the thenk God newly recontracted chatedra and the small trinity chapell and l felt the love of somebody from above the admiration the artist giving the honor with their splending donnation also for Jezus and for many of us.

[@yvonnegross6952]

THIS WAS SO BEAUTIFUL BISHOP BARRON !!!!!

[@wowdudewow8360]

Thank the Lord for Bishop Barron and the Catholic Church! Obviously there is the Beauty of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit! IF THERE WAS NO BEAUTY THERE WOULD BE NO UGLY. THE UGLY TRIES TO DESTOY THE BEAUTY EVERY DAY SO THERE MUST BE BEAUTY! BEAUTY WILL WIN IN THE END.

[@rn9940]

I think "the ugly" does not have a will of its own. It is evil people that want to destroy beauty.

[@kencee0110]

God bless you, Bishop Barron.

[@paulineramsay9487]

Thank you so much.

[@mhsvz6735]

Excellent, thank you!

[@jays1198]

sublimest beauty on the way may point our souls aright beware though of deceitful paths disguised in shining light

[@mikecremona1405]

Another excellent explanation about another aspect of the Catholic Church.....

[@fabriziocamisani5477]

Lovely, charming fellow, everything is quite entertaining, still hot air.

[@bigbrowntrout1]

These talks of Bishop Barron's on the intrinsic and objective beauty of certain musical compositions makes me wonder if he's ever heard anything from Morten Lauridsen, particularly "O Magnum Mysterium".

[@kflo815]

Thank you father♡

[@patriciakelley4125]

What an amazing and stirring talk on the beauty in our lives lived through Jesus Christ. It is especially meaningful during this time of this Covid-19 pandemic and the death of George Floyd. Come Holy Spirit! ❤️🙏❤️

[@aidaruilova140]

Glorious Truth! Amen! ❤️

[@lesliehidley3387]

beautiful talk!

[@dessacruz6395]

To Bishop Barron,please train more priests ,may your tribe increase.In JESUS'S nsme we pray.Amen

[@TheCityWife]

amazing!

[@jimholmes5971]

Fantastic talk.

[@jorgecampos5223]

Lovely.!!!!!

[@rcodan9016]

Now that was a beautiful insight.

[@dennisjacob1081]

Our centre and path should always be towards Jesus and Our Lady.

[@zatoichi1]

First song that "rocked your world"? The Carpenters - Sing a Song, I was only five but listened to it over and over. I still find it a song simple and beautiful in its sound and meaning. I'm curious about what songs other people first found beautiful in the way Bishop Barron describes...

[@jjanczy62]

Metallica's "One." This may not have been properly speaking the first that shook my world, BUT it certainly has had the most impact thus far in my life. I'm sure there are many who can't imagine finding Beauty in thrash metal, or any heavy metal for that matter. The way the guitars come in at the beginning with this slow sad melody gives me shivers every time. The song develops into a powerful ballad, at times pushing into harder more aggressive music only to be pulled back at the last second to the ballad. It finally tears into a crescendo of thrashing raw aggression and emotion, with some of the most beautiful guitar work you'll ever hear. I truly believe this song fits well within the definition the Bishop Barron describes.

[@jakfan09]

John Janczy Have you seen the film Johnny Got His Gun which inspired the song One?

[@jjanczy62]

Jak, I haven't seen the film ( or read the book); I really should, though. The scenes they pulled from the movie for the music video are heart wrenching.

[@jakfan09]

John Janczy It's one of the most disturbing films I've seen.

[@jnuval]

Might sound cheesy to some, but mine is Celine Dion's 'My Heart Will Go On.'

[@jimluebke3869]

"When we start destroying beautiful things, we know that a legitimate reform has become corrupted." Sounds like July 2020.

[@rollycogay5899]

Great and Beautiful Message to ponder upon !

[@stcolreplover]

Hey Bishop Barron, does this apply to the Catholic tradition in regards to music. Seems to me an injustice that there is a 2000 year old tradition of the most beautiful songs ever written and we only use songs written in the 60's

[@sb02907]

I'm part of a parish choir that does Gregorian Chant and Sacred Renaissance Polyphony! Beautiful, Sacred Music is coming back!! 😀

[@jnuval]

Chant and polyphony are great and all, but if you've ever been to a choir practice at an average parish, it's hard to get people to be disciplined enough to go through the training for a schola and to learn the chants.

[@sb02907]

jnuval I'm completely new to singing in a choir (and to chant and Polyphony, as I've only been attending my current parish for a year), but I caught on quickly. I don't sing the Gregorian propers of the mass yet, but I'm able to do some of the other chants and motets we do, like the various Marian chants. I do agree however, that people are lazy and aren't willing to put in the work. Simple Gregorian ordinary settings can get people started in my opinion. Then they can move on from there

[@stephenandersen4625]

Obviously you need a new music director. My parish has great music, old and new

[@victoriaruiz8447]

I agree Some of the worst hymns ever. No one knows and it seems care to know the words of these hymns. Almost no one in my church sings

[@ChrisOgunlowo]

Beautiful

[@anneturner2759]

This is beautiful.

[@willettejackson979]

Dare beauty sweet beauty to be found

[@Raven-zr8gm]

Bishop aku baru saja selesai berdoa, dan tepat jam 12 malam aku harus berdoa, dan pada saat aku mengucapkan doa berbicara dengan Tuhan, dan Tuhan mengatakan kepada saya masih ada gempa akan terjadi dimana-mana, dan dalam beberapa hari kedepan akan ada badai angin kencang, angin badai yang kencang dan menghancurkan.

[@alyssac5415]

58:49 Bishop Baron looking for Jesus is hilarious! 🤣

[@Chandransingham]

Great talk. I was pleased to hear of reference to Islam and its practise on images when showed his 1st picture - Icon.

[@rspjfrost1400]

Pope Francis " as Prince Myshkin said in Dostoyevsky’s The Idiot - then we must be vigilant so that the world also saves beauty. To achieve this, I invite you to embrace a “global beauty compact” with all the young people of the world, for there is no education without beauty. “We cannot educate without leading a person to beauty, without leading the heart to beauty. Forcing my talk a little, I would say that an education is not successful if you do not know how to create poets. The path of beauty is a challenge that must be addressed"

[@catherinegagliardo8359]

Agree so much about seafood! Totally hate seafood! LOL and I agree that Friday lent is a penance for us! You are not alone.

[@mitchanderson3747]

What year were you ordained a priest? Do you know the four marks of the Catholic Church? Do you know the churches laws on jurisdiction and how it runs?

[@bsontrop]

My wonderful, little, wise, funny wife of 36 years says to you, Bishop Barron -tongue-in-cheek/ L.O.L. -"You're weird!"

[@yankeesuperstar]

Bring back the Latin Mass

[@parkerwagner9162]

It never left! My church in Central TX offers it weekly!

[@RosaMariaMatsuoka]

The Latin Mass has been back for many, many years (Pope Benedict brought it back). I just went to one last Sunday.

[@kathyvilardi7059]

Brilliant !!! Send to our youth !!!

[@oldbenkenob1]

yankeesuperstar Why? The Old Testament was written mostly in Hebrew. Jesus spoke Hebrew and Greek. The New Testament was written mostly in Greek. Wouldn't Greek make more sense as the Orthodox church does it?

[@GottmitunsAlex]

Along side the Charismatic "mass" and the healing "mass".. LoL

[@jeffrendell]

The fish joke was hilarious! 30:20

[@autisticmystic8540]

How is John Damascene NOT a household name???

[@alexp2647]

Someone give this bishop a third microphone.

[@maryparker3392]

Father, In my deepest mind l associate Leonard Cohens, Lady in the window with the hymn Lo how a rose Eer Blooming Some deep Jewish and catholic One pointedness Beyond that L have no explanation Please reply. LOVE

[@MozwGamer]

Ámen !

[@ritabiro5105]

There are different games just difficult to keep always the chatolic rules.

[@ducinaltum33]

This is a great talk on beauty! But I can’t help but cringe a bit looking at the backdrop of this talk. I grew up with this church decor... dried branches, sand and banners and wonder if there’s a correlation between people in my generation (Gen X) the stripping of the beautiful art in our churches and the Mass exodus (pun intended) and this shift. I know it’s not everything but there’s is something that beauty subtly does to the soul that disarms it to listen to the good and the true.

[@sarahthelen2550]

Islamic culture has beautiful geometric patterns and its temples are not lacking in beauty.

[@markgeorge8194]

As an artist and priest, i am troubled by a major blind spot of a bishop who claims to be a champion of beauty in the church and world. The examples he holds up in painting, sculpture, and architecture always seem to be Renaissance or earlier. Where is the modern art and architecture in Barron's understanding of beauty? What about Sagrada Familia church in Barcelona, or the deeply spiritual and beautiful paintings of the Jewish artist Marc Chagall, to give just a couple examples? Is beauty only to be found in the work of artists who've been dead for 200 years or more? How about the art of the non-Western world or the global South?

[@teresaskarlicki2641]

Sagrada Familia cathedral is just so so beautiful! I agree that it is important to consider the art and culture all over the world

[@veronica_._._._]

l find the work of Mark Chagall profoundly ugly, sentimental and artistically incompetent, unforgivably faux naif, so it seems it's very subjective these days isn't it. lt had everything to do with the fact that in modern art the artist is the art, they are celebs, the art is seen thru the aura of the artist's status, not the other way round. Inversion. So Tracy Emin Becomes a world class artist by being "notorious"and then spends 7 years spending a tiny fraction of her millions having real artists actually teach her how to draw! ,(She drew at the level of a 5 yo before that) She's still.incredibly lacklustre, and unobservant, but can at least slavishly copy now. Can you imagine this happening in classical music or ballet? No they have better reality testing, and standards. Modern Life is one long farce, treated with utmost solemnity and reverence. 200 years ago the art had to speak for itself, and it did, skill levels off the charts. As an artist myself l would say that where art is concerned, untold amounts of skill has been been lost, globally. Neolithic pottery decoration, would be almost impossible to reproduce today, endless repetition of daily work leads to the falling away of all that is fussy and unnecessary leaving breathtaking elegance, and this on everyday objects, not self conscious artfulness. Beauty is graceful. In an attention competitive world understated beauty is too subtle to compete for mainstream attention. 20.years ago Charles Saatchi was flaunting the debased reality he midwifed, when he named his sellout exhibition. Sensation.

[@veronica_._._._]

@@teresaskarlicki2641 " The importance of considering art from all over the world sounds very dutiful, very PC and very rule bound. Art stands on its merit, a beautiful piece should make your hair stand on end,leave you with a sense of the uncanny it should haunt you with its unworldly flawlessness. Art stands on its merit. Gaudi would be popular with African termites for a human his mounds are not 1/2 bad, seems like he paid attention and reinvented the wheel somewhat.

[@chaknis]

I hope Dr. William Lane Craig has an opportunity to view this presentation.

[@RosaMariaMatsuoka]

Yes! I was thinking the same thing. I am going to check if Dr. William Lane Craig has some contact information where I can send him this link. It is interesting that he is puzzled by the emphasis of Catholicism, not only on the Good and the True, but also on the Beautiful, especially when he is such a good example of the latter transcendental property of being. At home, we call Dr. Lane Craig: "the elegant teacher" (it is not only what he says, but his own face, hair, the way he talks, smiles, walks, listens, behaves, etc.). There is a mysterious integrity, consonance, and radiance about him ---I can clearly perceive the reflection of God precisely in his sophisticated mind and his exquisitely elegant beauty.

[@phyllisgaret4024]

I was truly fascinated, Bishop Barron. Beauty has always captured me. Today, I am 74. This talk was a BEAUTIFUL Birthday gift! I had to replay certain spots to take notes on my phone. I will revisit/research Plato, Dante, Beatrice, You have inspired me to read /reread Evelyn Waugh; You have been gifted by God ... THANK YOU, GOD, FOR OPENING MY EYES AND EARS TO YOUR MESSENGER. Blessings, Phyllis Catanzaro Garet

[@chaknis]

Dr Peter Kreeft's conversion story. You might find interesting. Beauty was a factor in his own conversion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jICVf3p9orx1h9E

[@chaknis]

I agree with your description of Dr. Craig. I've watch him on KZbin and he certainly has charisma. I was very surprised when he spoke of being puzzled by beauty. I would suggest that might be the answer to Bishop Barron's not so subtle question " why he wasn't Catholic?". Many conversion stories I've read speak of Beauty being a significant factor in their decision. See above Dr. Peter Kreeft's Conversion link. Interesting!

[@chaknis]

You might find this article interesting? churchpop.com/2018/05/25/the-amazing-humanities-dept-that-got-shut-down-after-too-many-students-converted-to-catholicism/

[@emiliavrogers]

WOW! I may know the feeling of staring at something so beautiful and reflect God's power, love, art, and amazing! each day! In a boarding house in college, I would stare at my breakfast of a sunny-side-up egg. How does this egg form the body of a chick? And I reflect how egg and sperm unite and by the MIRACLE OF GOD, there is this forming and developing HUMAN LIFE! … WHAT A BEAUTY! WHAT A BEAUTIFUL GOD WE HAVE IN LIFE. AND IT IS A 9-MONTH PROCESS FOR A HUMAN LIFE! WHO COULD EVER CRASH IT?!

[@josephgallardo8134]

Bring back the Scarfs Catholics!

[@julkakrol521]

💕🙏💕👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏

[@mariesinnecker4450]

I'm a Católic; I LOVE BISHOP'S BARRON 'videos: they hace taught me to understand My Religión; but: I HATE BASEBALL!Where's the BEAUTY i'm it, dear & Revered Excellency?

[@genekelly8467]

Very nice-I compare the "brutalist" architecture we have, to the beauty of Art Deco or NeoClassical buildings. Brutalist is NOT beautiful-I wonder why it was so popular.

[@francesbernard2445]

Seems to me that knowing your audience for sure is important to help avoid what happened in Acts 16: 19 - 21 which could happen to anyone no matter how gracious a way the person presented the good news in any community that is filled with people who have the love of money right from the ground up to the brass. Like for example graciousness when being able to wash the feet of a prisoner. I admire the courage of pope Francis since having done so could have enraged a lot of racist people with the love of money most.

[@eliothahn7983]

Beauty certainly matters in Catholic Church, right ? I do wish English translation of liturgy and Scripture were more beautiful than what’s going on now in U.S. I do wish music, the mass and hymns were more beautiful. I do wish the statues of Saints were not tacky at all. I’m not talking about Chartres or Vatican, but about local parish churches. I mean, in New York. I know New York is not Rome, but this is quite frustrating.

[@NA.NA..]

Rip John Madden

[@davidarcudi230]

1977 Annie Hall....fyi Excellency

[@JesusLoves77]

👋🏻👋🏽👋🏿✝️👍🏿👍🏽👍🏻

[@Raven-zr8gm]

Akan ada angin badai yang kencang, menghancurkan dan menakutkan.

[@aco-alexnikolov6741]

The Law of Beauty Mast Be..................

[@frederickanderson1860]

The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord. Not theological assumptions

[@ultro6904]

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[@timyurek9036]

Why can't the bishop see that the old mass is objectively valuable?

[@johnbroccolifromstatenisla964]

PogChamp

[@martina6833]

Danke. As an artist and a lost fish at sea, you are slowly pulling me in after a 35 year hiatus. Evangelization of Native people was neither beautiful nor productive though!

[@ch.5884]

I see you attended the wreck....

[@jnuval]

It's Bishop Barron's 21st year attending the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress [as a speaker].

[@ch.5884]

jnuval I wouldnt brag about roots in the wreck..

[@magister343]

I despise baseball. There is nothing beautiful about it. My father forced me to play tee ball, but I much preferred to use the time to observe the beauty of the ants moving on the ground unbound by nay arbitrary rules.

[@BishopBarron]

Well, good for you...

[@ludovico237]

Bring people into Catholicism through beauty, eh-? Then definitely don't bring them to the LA Cathedral!

[@jnuval]

Speak for yourself. I and many other Angelenos find the LA Cathedral beautiful.

[@odraciradeur5597]

READ HEBREW IF YOU IS MAN OF GOD

[@leighwiggin4139]

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

[@NadaTuyo73]

Leigh Wiggin Catholics get thrown this scripture all of the time but folks need to remember that especially back then people idolized animals and worshipped pagan gods in the form of animals and other things. Let’s not forget about Solomon’s temple, God asked him to put 2 images of angels in the temple and there were two angels on the Ark of The Covenant. I think many folks read scripture without really digging deeper in its real meaning. Real beauty lifts our hearts to God. And the images Catholics have are of real people who we respect and are great examples. Christ being number one. Images of the real lives help lift our hearts and contemplate the lives of the saints who were great examples of Christianity. We’re not worshipping statues nor are we worshipping any one else as God. We simply venerate them and are reminded by there lives. I have photos of my son and parents and I kiss those photos every now and then, that doesn’t mean I’m worshipping a piece of photo paper nor my son nor parents. Let’s dig deeper before assuming things and spreading the same old same old. Too many anti catholic folks spread recycled false information without ever seeking the truth for themselves. ✌🏼

[@leighwiggin4139]

When God tells you to do something, you do it. When God commands you not to do something, you don't. The scripture is clear and for your benefit. You admittedly venerate objects, here are some synonyms: revere,reverence, respect, worship, adulate, hallow, deify, idolize, hold sacred, exalt, honour, esteem. To think that you know God better than scripture is a dangerous path to follow. What false information am I spreading? I quoted directly from the bible.

[@keymaker2112]

@Leigh Wiggin I agree. So why aren't Protestants confessing their sins to receive forgiveness, as attested to by Holy Scripture? "Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.”- John 20:21-23 Could it be that there are different interpretations, many false and one correct? If so, who is there to settle these disputes, lest many be led astray and cast into hell? Recall, Satan quoted Scripture as well when Jesus was tempted after 40 days in the desert. Scripture is not "clear" as some Protestants would make it out to be, and so we as Catholics defer to the authority of the Magisterium of the Church, a Tradition by which Scripture is interpreted rightly. Even in the Sacred Scriptures we are warned by the Apostles that it is all too easy to mis-read the Holy Text. 2 Peter 3:16: “...In them [the writings of Paul] there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures.” The statues and the works of art which adorn the Catholic Church are not idols being worshiped, but rather works of devotion to give glory to God and to attest to His Truth in a manner other than the spoken or written Word. There is a great illusion cast before the eyes of many Protestants as to what the Catholic Church teaches and does.

[@leighwiggin4139]

I am not a Protestant, so I couldn't speak for them. I am an atheist, I find it strange how the scripture can be twisted to fit each denomination. I would never defer authority, I would listen to the arguments and make my own mind up, nobody can tell we what to believe without a well explained reason.

[@keymaker2112]

@Leigh Wiggin Everyone defers to some authority on the preponderance of matters of belief in their lives, that is not to say there are not well explained reasons for deference, or belief, even for atheists. I've always held that belief and disbelief are equally rational and logical conclusions. I was an atheist for the majority of my life, but the arguments for the existence of God were too compelling for me to ignore. Similar arguments may not be as compelling for another person, though their logical coherence isn't changed; we all respond to something different. P.S. I apologize for assuming your Protestantism, it was ill-mannered of me.