Hemochromatosis My Iron Overload Story

[@KickItNaturally]

How did you figure out your iron levels were high? Next best video to watch: How I Lost My Voice for 8 Years: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKrCnnqwiJt9i5Y

[@hfactotum1]

Hello @KickitNaturally: it was actually my friend who went through this sorry ordeal. I don't have much more information other than his own doctor had always gave him a cleanbill of health for every yearly examination and since the Covid jab he's never been the same since...

[@Chris_Faraday]

High Iron and Low Copper is the greatest berakthrough in health I ever heard in 20 years of research - Best topic

[@KickItNaturally]

Thanks for sharing this

[@janetb6520]

Thank you for the video! Last year I started seeing a new primary care physician. I had no symptoms, but she was the first doctor to add iron levels check for my annual physical. Results came back that my iron was high, not astronomical, but over the range. She had me tested for Hemochromatosis gene and sure enough I have one of the genes (H63D (c.187C>G). I had my first phlebotomy last week and am suppose to go back every three months. I have been spending a lot of time searching the internet but not much out there. I eat pretty healthfully so this just didn't seem fair. So thank you so much for sharing your story it really helps.

[@KickItNaturally]

GReat @Janet B I'm glad it was helpful. Sounds like you caught it before it turned into the type of trouble I dealt with. Nicely done!

[@hayeshove1723]

every three months? I had to go every 2 weeks

[@survivormary1126]

There are some studies on it at nutrition facts that are interesting. I'm getting the tests next week bc they found iron deposits on my Liver. yikes!

[@hooligan2005]

Do you have Irish or Scottish ancestry? It seems to be more common amongst that group. I have not been tested but I have a whole lot of that ancestry and although, not officially diagnosed, I retain iron and give blood regularly. I think it may give insight into why many of my family seems to have just dropped dead early over the generations

[@marieanne8317]

Could you explain why you won’t fix other problems until you fix that?

[@Leo-pv9zi]

I hear iron overload and iron dysregulation has to do with copper deficiency ( lack of copper or biounavailable copper due to lack of ceruloplasmin). Morley Robbins talks about this..

[@sarahhatesboys]

My symptoms started with just yellow eyes in my early twenties. After having my kids I noticed severe debilitating fatigue, severe brain fog to the point I was convinced I thought I had early onset dementia. I got bloodwork done and my bilirubin was 2.5 so a little high but they didn’t do any further testing and just told me to get rest and that it’s probably just from being a parent. I started developing joint pain in my knees and hands and ankles, and weird pain in my upper right abdomen. And it was getting to the point where I would have to put my kids in a safe area and lay down on the floor because the level of exhaustion was just overwhelming at this point. I went in to the er for another infection I was dealing with and had a complete breakdown to a nurse basically begging her to help me figure out how to get answers because I wasn’t being taken seriously. I’m a 28 year old healthy female but I felt like I was living in the body of a 60 year old. She told me to keep being persistent, even change doctors until you get someone to listen. So I did. I just got my blood work back and my bilirubin had increased more and my dr thought maybe I was anemic based on the symptoms I was describing so she ran a panel for my iron and my saturation was 51%. I start looking around online and I keep seeing this diagnosis called hemochromatosis. And I had done 23 and me a while back so I thought I’d check so see if I have the variant. Boom, right there, H63D variant. I finally have an answer to all of my problems. I have a follow up appointment with my pcp for further testing/diagnosis.My mom has been suffering with fatigue, brain fog, and high bilirubin levels since I could remember and she’s been through so many doctors who have just said oh you know mom life is likely your cause for your symptoms. She’s getting tested now to see if she is the carrier of the variant. But it was so relieving to find out that this wasn’t just anxiety or becoming a parent, that these debilitating symptoms weren’t all in my head.

[@Himanshow_]

Hey, you have no idea how much your comment relieved me! I think we have kinda the same story. High bilirubin levels, told to not worry about it. I had muscle aches and joint problems for 2 years. And recently i started having a foggy brain, and twitching so i decided to get my blood work done again. Luckily i included an iron test and i have a high level of iron in my body. Just a quick question, can you tell me all the symptoms you had and how are they now? Would really appreciate it :)

[@felixpaniagua6018]

I think I have high levels of Iron. I had a magnet when wanking and it attracted my nuts. It was something weird and I've had brain fog for nearly 10 years after taking iron supplements, but I didn't know this was dangerous @@Himanshow_

[@lucioink_]

I have the same sympton of dementia on 25 years old!

[@AndreyMakarov-i7h]

Pretty sure hat most women decline in looks and health after pregnancy, because of the iron overload.

[@Adam-qs5ir]

After over a decade of general pain symptoms and fatigue a gp tested my iron. My Ferritin levels were over 8000. He did the genetic test and now I'm on maintenance phlebotomies after 6 years of weekly.

[@KickItNaturally]

Wow, those were some high numbers. Happy to hear you've improved that situation.

[@steveb6718]

8000... crazy

[@Galbereth]

Wow that's a lot! Glad you're getting sorted out now. Bestest wishes 🍰🌻

[@sionyevans]

wow bud that's some number....

[@Adam-qs5ir]

@@sionyevans It didn't help that I had a drinking problem at the time of the test. I was genetically and self inflicted predisposed to store iron

[@MrBlueduds]

thank you for the information, very helpful. I was just diagnosed with this, but the biggest hurdle for me will be giving blood. I have a phobia about needles, especially when stuck in the arm. Folks may roll there eyes at this, but this is a serious thing for me and will impact my decision on getting help for this.

[@d2t214]

Three years ago I was diagnosed with advanced Crohns, completely changed my diet, on treatment, and thankfully doing well. At the time of that diagnosis, I was anemic and had no iron, the chronic bleeding from Crohns was actually benefiting me from my one week confirmed diagnosis of complex HFE. I have two of the most common defects so higher risk. I too had several medical providers miss the diagnosis and was recommended by several to start Iron tablets which I did not do because it did not make sense to me so I kept digging for the answer. My liver is fine at this time, Ferritin 24, saturation 54%. I now have to tell my kids. Thanks for your story and to everyone else sharing, it helps to know I am not alone and that there is a path. Thank you.

[@KickItNaturally]

so glad it was helpful. In case it helps, here is our video on crohns: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpmxmomjpahmatk

[@fiona1963]

The reason for avoiding Raw Shell fish is because of the likelihood of getting Vibro vulnificus. Also, under cooked pork can contain Yersinia enterocolitica. Both of these bacterial infections can rapidly kill someone with high iron levels.

[@KickItNaturally]

interesting. thanks for sharing.

[@ahc1957]

I’ve been ill for many years. A doctor that I saw for the first time sent me for a ton of blood tests. He called me back with results. I never heard of such a thing. Too much iron. I just had the genetic test and I am waiting for the results. I was also surprised to see another name for Hemochromatosis, The Celtic Curse. Well, my paternal GM is from Ireland, Paternal GF from Scotland, maternal GM from Britain and maternal GF from Ireland. Ancestry and symptoms both show a risk. Very interesting.

[@KickItNaturally]

Pretty exciting that someone caught it. If your iron numbers are really high, once you start the phlebotomy, you will start to feel much better after about a month. exciting stuff! Please let me know how it goes.

[@Bambotb]

It's a hidden gem, if doctors knew about it or how to treat it then 98% of diseases won't happen...

[@zokonjazokonja]

I have hemochromatosis, my father have it, and I don't have any relation with Ireland/Britain since all of my family is from Croatia. Maybe I have some old Celtic relative? 🤔 My ferritin is some below 400, but this was tested some year ago, need to repeat test soon. And I hesitate regarding blood donation, feel very unplesent when needle is longer than minute in me, even during simple blood test I feel little bit dizzy. I afraid that I will pass out during blood donation 😬. For now I'm on turmeric but not sure does it help. Thinking also about some other chelating option (lactoferrin, IP6...).

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, anyone from any descent can get it. Just more common with the ones I listed. You can try other things, but they didn't work for me. Just removing blood. I was squeamish at first too, but got used to it.

[@olgaj9267]

@@zokonjazokonjabe careful with lactoferrin. I suspect this is what caused my rosacea. It meant to increase iron levels and from what I understood you want to do the opposite (?)

[@Total_Body_Fitness_USA]

My iron saturation was 76% despite only having a 152 ferritin. Turns out I have one snippet in my DNA H63D that was causing mild hemochromatosis. I've always felt like crap after I hit about 40 years of age and I am 58 now so it has not been fun through the years. No doc found it until I end up in the hospital with a racing heart rate that would not go below 125bpm. Turns out the iron overload messed with my thyroid function causing me to be hyperthyroid. I gave some blood and took anti-thyroid drug and a beta blocker to lower my HR and so far so good. It's only been 4 days since I was in the hospital and I didn't take any anti-thyroid meds today and I haven't needed to take the beta blocker either for the past 2 days. I'm thinking that giving some blood allowed my thyroid to reset itself. At least I hope that is the case so I guess I will see how it goes over the next few days. I get the iron results back tomorrow so I am curious to see how much it dropped after getting rid of some blood. I do feel better so we shall see if I continue to improve. Iron saturation is definitely nothing to play around with. It was very scary for me. Great video!

[@d2t214]

Hey how are you doing? Thanks for sharing. I posted my story above. I am still answering my own questions for my path. I workout-lift 5-6 times a week and in my mid 50's. I see you do too, question for you-I have been taking creatine for over a year, daily now. I cannot find any info on if this is a problem with HFE or the liver. Do you know or do you take it? Appreciate any thoughts.

[@minniemouse625]

My iron sat was 94% and ferritin normal range (80) but pretty high iron. All sorts of symptoms plus thyroid issues for decades. And the doc refuses to test for HFE. It's exhausting!

[@josenieto7586]

Same here with high saturation, was always tired every day no matter how much I slept, weak, joint pain, and always wanted to take long nap. I was just miserable and felt frustrated from this. I did my first donation ever because of this at 45 and notice a difference later that day and the following three days, with no need of naps anymore. I will now be donating blood regularly for the benefits and feel much better.

[@MyChilepepper]

I used to think the old bloodletting practice was a bunch of quackery. Well, I was wrong.

[@KickItNaturally]

Right? I used to laugh about that too.

[@snowps1]

Turmeric and Quercetin are mild iron chelators so that's also something you can try.

[@daves5445]

Just caught your video on my YT feed, glad I did. I just got a blood test that included them testing my ferritin and TSH and they are quite high (ferritin at 449 and TSH at 14). My GP immediately wants to put me on a drug to control the TSH and said that he is not concerned with the ferritin level. No telling how long this has been going on. I suspect some inflammation is going on in my body. Also have an abdominal ultrasound scheduled for a month from now. Fingers crossed that we can figure this out.

[@minniemouse625]

I think you should fix your iron overload before you start the thyroid medication. It could be the iron being stored in your thyroid and causing the high TSH. If you start the meditation it can be difficult to get off of it later. Just a heads up😊

[@yessyt78]

Can it be low t3 also cause by this . Eating lots of red beat on carnivore can this be the cause?

[@jasonkelly1502]

I went through life not even knowing I had Hemochromatosis until at age 51 when I was put in the hospital for alcoholism and was diagnosed with cirrhosis as well. I almost died because of stupid decisions and never going to the doctor when my body was trying to tell me something was wrong.

[@sw6118]

Gout and arthritis can also be symptoms. Encourage anyone planning on going carnivore to get tested for this first if they’re background is Northern European.

[@KickItNaturally]

Not bad advice. Checking iron to make sure it's not already high could be a suitable step as well.

[@AndreyMakarov-i7h]

Encourage anyone to never ever go carnivore.

[@Whiteshoelace]

Just started seeing an ND who diagnosed me with this after seeing my first lab results. Thanks for the informational content.

[@KickItNaturally]

Congrats! Hard to discover, but once you figure it out, you can really feel a whole lot better.

[@tipitii3]

My ferritin levels are 610, but my blood iron only around 130. I was wondering if normal blood iron levels are different for each person. I'm been consuming a lot of red meat in part of my elimination diet, basically following carnivore style. It didn't really fix anything. I think it may have causes more even damage. Now I'm following a low iron, low red meat diet, replacing them with fish and chicken. I'm also thinking doing some meatless days. I've been also doing some intermittent fasting and exercise during that fasting time to lower my ferritin levels. Need to measure again in order to see whether high ferritin levels are caused my this carnivore diet.

[@eatrdust2]

Any inflammation or fungus, yeast in the body can cause high ferritin levels. Only way to know if you have hemochromatosis is to have the genocide test, you must have two genes to have it. Both parts would have had to have one gene at least for you to get it. No carnivore diet by it self will not raise ferritin level. Dr Ken Berry had a good video on subject. Video is called : elevated Ferritin ( what causes high ferritin)2024

[@FiftiesForward]

But how often do you check your ferritin?

[@marysmith2854]

They caught it my yearly labs,went and had more labs,found out genetic hemochromatosis.Going to get a phlebotomy treatment this week

[@Renofirefly30]

Ive been to multiple doctors for years for my symptoms. It was my 23andme results that lead me to make an appointment to have my iron and ferritin levels checked. My appointment is tomorrow.

[@KickItNaturally]

Hope it went well.

[@minniemouse625]

What did your test show? I am thinking about doing the 23 and me test. Iron sat 94% and high iron but normal ferritin.

[@Renofirefly30]

​@@KickItNaturallymy ferritin was 3158. I have hereditary hemochromatosis and it caused cirrhosis of my liver. I see a GI doctor on July 5th to see if I need a liver transplant.

[@Renofirefly30]

​​@@minniemouse62523andme test showed double copy of C282Y genes. My ferritin is 3158. The weekly phlebotomy is not working. I have cirrhosis and my iron sat is 105. I'm not doing well at all.

[@geertruivanbroekhoven7209]

Wow ! I wish you all the best, good doctors, good treatments, good recovery. ​@@Renofirefly30

[@hfactotum1]

Hello. I'm glad I came across this. I was wondering if there is any way you can ascertain whether the Covid-19 vaccinations could trigger hemochromatosis? The reason I am asking is because I was recently reacquainted with an old friend who has always been healthy until he took the jab on December 2020. One month later he woke up and stared in the mirror to find that his skin color was becoming gray in appearance and was immediately hospitalized. Since then he's developed hemochromatosis and thirty percent heart damage. He's been on medication ever since and will continue to do so for the rest of his Life. If you or anyone hear can provide any information--pro or con--it would be greatly appreciated...

[@steveb6718]

I know two people who took a covid vaccine, and now have massively high iron levels....

[@craig350ci]

Where is the reply to this comment !

[@craig350ci]

…..it’s a good question.

[@sionyevans]

do not get anymore vaccines, lots of people are not here now because they were either coerced or pushed out of work if they didn't have it....I knew not to get it . never will..Good luck

[@drewjames8037]

Thanks my man! You’re a genius! That is what I will do.

[@KickItNaturally]

Glad it was helpful.

[@lindaa2437]

​@KickItNaturally It is so cool that you use a very altruistic way to keep your hemochromatosis under control. God Bless you sir!!!

[@judyanderson6178]

Please be aware if you have hereditary hemachromatosis you should not indulge in raw fish/shellfish. Unfortunately you are at higher risk of infection from specific bacteria.

[@KickItNaturally]

Not to mention the high iron content in many of those shellfish.

[@Carolanne1926]

I got diagnosed with the hireditry hemochromatosis yesterday I've always had low iron levels so I was quite shocked when my doctor told me yesterday

[@Resolutelt]

From my own experience I found that taking a turmeric extract (curcumin) in a lyposomal form (for best bioavailability) did not help me to keep my iron levels normal. Note that I don't have hemochromatosis. For the last 8 months I was taking Solaray iron 50 mg 3 times a week (monday, wednesday, friday) for the purpose of keeping my iron levels healthy. My iron levels were good for first 6 months. Went from 16 to 25 μmol/l. I believed 25 was my baseline so I continued supplementing. But the final 2 months while taking curcumin everyday additionally (for other purposes) my iron levels went to 34 μmol/l. Basically what took 6 months for my iron to increase by ~10 μmol/l now happened in only 2 months. I guess that eating very many blueberries and vitamin C in them during summer may have made this fastened absorbtion of iron. And curcumin basically did nothing to slow it down. And my thyroid antibodies went crazy high (381,67 U/ml), my guess because of iron, because I haven't had my antibodies so high ever before. I am discontinuing my iron supplement for sure.

[@Fyhria]

Calcium help lower iron and I have high iron overload just now

[@dudee06]

i have got 180ug/dl (supposed to be between 37-145 (that's written in my blood test results)) is it dangerous i don't take any supplements , i eat normal

[@RGR465]

Bro relax Im here because me feritten is 600 and im still alive 😅

[@anderssvard3336]

Same story here in Sweden. I hade severe panic attacks for 14 years daily among a lot of problems mentioned all over. Doctors called me delusional and more, even when I stood in fron of them in middle of summer with double layers of winter clothes on me when it was 32 degrees celcius outside and couldn't maintain my body temperature.. Now I even have probably developed primary aldosteronism and might need to remove one of my adrenal glands to solve very high blood pressure due to loads of aldensterone pumping out.

[@OGAesthetics]

I have 435 ferritin levels. Been experiencing shortness of breath. I should get some help for this right? Blood donation?

[@KickItNaturally]

Hi, I can't give anyone specific advice, that is higher than the what the medical world says it should be. Seems like taking some action and getting iron levels checked could be important. Keep in mind that other things can make that go high too, but iron would be the first thing to check.

[@rongatmen5689]

Check your hemoglobin level first. Make sure you're not anemic. People can have high ferritin level but low on hemoglobin.

[@katrinabowers5088]

My husband is dealing with this exact scenario now

[@Swenthorian]

I'm a compound heterozygote for hæmochromatosis and another hepcidin mutation, and have very mild iron overload. Doctor wouldn't test my iron levels, even with my genetic results, until he saw my liver enzymes. I bet I can nip this purely through diet (and phlebotomy isn't indicated in my case), but it's hard to not hit the minimum iron DVs, and all the videos KZbin gives me are about anemia, which is like the opposite of my situation, lol.

[@KickItNaturally]

Right. I tend to be able to adjust things SOME with diet, but I do better by simply adjusting how often I donate blood. And most states now allow your doctor to write a prescription for therapeutic blood donation, which allows you to go more often than most people are allowed to donate blood. I probably need to make another video about this kind of stuff.

[@MarykayOsoski]

Thank you.. ferritin/ saturation / high iron Confusing.. husband has high iron, at times anemic.. my brain goes tilt. Giving blood to regulate issues

[@CapCashOG]

How long did it take to get your ferritin levels down? curios about that tiem frame.

[@xavimaestas7116]

Did your iron saturation come down with phlebotomies or just your ferritin? Seems common that ferritin gets taken care of with phlebotomies but saturation stays high.

[@KickItNaturally]

Mine came down. So has clients that I have worked with in this area. Ferritin will often come down before saturation though.

[@txsuzyq5655]

I really want to go carnivore for immunity reasons. I only need to donate once a year. I am monitored. Red meat is my favorite. I have two genetic factors and have the same heritage as you.

[@KickItNaturally]

It's good that you aware of it. Here is our video on carnivore mistakes if it helps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH6bhoFrmdOZrbM

[@86Brasco]

I have high iron. Nothing to do with diet. And hemochromatosis has been ruled out. Any advise ? Or reasoning this could be ?

[@autumnconway3642]

Ferrari and regular iron are different.Yours is probably diet.Not genetic

[@MinhNguyen-mo5fp]

Thank you so much for sharing 😊

[@KickItNaturally]

My pleasure 😊

[@fatarry]

My ferratins 870.....my Mums just been diagnosed. Suffer from pain everywhere extreme exhaustion and depression. Hopefully going to get treatment if I am diagnosed. It is looking extremely likely.

[@TheCunneen]

Mine is 700 should I be looking at doing something about it? What's a good level

[@wmauibill]

What kind of pains ? I have severe body aches

[@fatarry]

@@wmauibill I have this, get pseudo gout in my right toe, hand pains back pain, tired constantly.

[@robevans2114]

Isn't elevated ferritin a sign of inflamation?

[@hayeshove1723]

thats one possibility yes

[@Tiberius41]

Nonheme iron can be absorbed if you take a vitamin c supplement. So if your iron is high stop vitamin c supplements.

[@KickItNaturally]

This is correct for a lot of people. Or take your vitamin C away from food.

[@Tiberius41]

@@KickItNaturally my iron immediately returned to normal once I stopped vitamin c. I no longer take any supplements because they aren’t necessarily risk free. Can high iron affect cholesterol levels? I’ve read somewhere that high iron can damage the inside of the veins. I am giving it a year to see if my cholesterol improves. Even if it doesn’t I wouldn’t be surprised if my risk of cardiovascular disease improves.

[@MindOverEverything]

Wow, weekly phlebotomy must have been intense. Were they taking out 400-500ml each time?

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, it was quite draining. On energy too. I don't remember exactly what they were taking out. I just remember the bag ending up being a little bit more than what they take out when we donate blood.

[@REDGRIFFIN100]

​@@KickItNaturallyI know for my uncle it was a pint of blood every week for 18 months then every 2 weeks for a period which I can't remember.

[@yvonnegarman3876]

TCHale you are the best! Great video! I watch you first and foremost any time I’m curious. I have a question on ferritin “vs” iron tests the listings on my lab work have ( iron level ) ( total iron binding capacity ) ( percent iron saturation ) ( unsaturated iron binding capacity ) do any of these give you a ferritin measure or is that a separate test?

[@KickItNaturally]

Thank you. The ferritin is separate but is almost always included in any full iron panel.

[@yvonnegarman3876]

Is all of the above a full panel in measuring ferritin or should it show up as its own name(measure) on the labs?

[@survivormary1126]

There are many other things you can do as well for iron overload, like black tea before or during a meal, coffee, activated charcoal. etc.

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, these can help a VERY LITTLE bit, but they are still okay to do. But it appears that is a person can donate blood enough, nothing even comes close to that.

[@survivormary1126]

I was watching a 3 part series on this from Cleveland Clinic and that is definitely the standard of care. I had Laproscopic Surgery for Liver Cancer 7 weeks ago and they found Iron Deposits on the Liver. Getting blood tests this week for (new Doc)and looking back only had 2 feritin tests since 2017, one being 1 yr ago! You would think they would have checked this. They were "normal" at around 176. Thing is I went down to 89lbs and have fought to get up to 100 now, so I'm not running to donate blood and the Doc and I agreed on that. Have seen other things like Soy, dairy.... Figure things that block it from absorbing can't hurt either. You saved me with the DIM getting my hormones to normal I never would have even suspected :)@@KickItNaturally

[@teddibear1850]

My husband started getting sick 3 weeks ago. Fever that has not yet resolved unless taking tylenol or ibuprofen. Tachycardia, crazy high labs. 26 to 28 creactive protein. Feritin went from 1400 to now 1600 something. Hospital visit and admission, catscans, ultrasound, MRI, lab work lab work lab work, no one can figure out what's wrong. He does not have meningitis or endroconditis of the heart or covid or influenza nor mono or any of the typical illnesses. The ferritin is scaring the crap out of me. He saw reumataology today. Mentioned possibility of stills disease however he never had the rash on his chest. Having a petscan on Friday. We've been keto for a year and were doing great and were even moving to more meat base with very little veg. Maybe that was a mistake. I've no idea but this scares me. If anyone out there has any idea, please comment. Thanks.

[@viracocha2021]

What about serum iron being too high but ferritin low? How much time takes the body to store it as ferritin?

[@Total_Body_Fitness_USA]

Do a TIBC and if iron saturation is over 50% then you are high regardless of what the ferritin is. That is where I messed up by listening to doctors who said don't worry about iron unless ferritin is high. My ferritin was 152 and my iron saturation was 76% which is crazy high. After 10 years of feeling like crap I end up in the hospital last Thursday and come to find out I was at the 76% iron overload and it screwed with my thyroid to the point my heart rate would not go below 125bpm. It was scary as hell and I got rid of some blood and almost immediately felt better. Hope this helps you!

[@karofarah]

What about 57 ferritin … high iron and high saturation ? If I donate once will it make me anemic ..?

[@viracocha2021]

@@karofarah I'm in the same position. A part of donating I want to know why we are in this situation...

[@Total_Body_Fitness_USA]

@@karofarah If your saturation is high regardless of what your ferritin it, you need to get rid of some blood immediately. I've trained in functional medicine for nearly 30 years and I was taught to always look at ferritin. If ferritin is normal then everything is fine. That is NOT true and I found out the hard way. I've had ferritin in the low 20s but yet my saturation was in the mid 60s and I ignored it thinking all is well. Check your saturation and then do a repeat test a week later. If your saturation is consistently high, then usually one donation 500ml will take care of it. In my case I was at 76% and one donation plus 10 more tubes of blood from testing brought me to 43% as of 2 days ago. All these years I have been searching for a problem because I knew something was wrong with my body, but I totally ignored getting a TIBC until a little over a week ago and it literally almost cost me my life because I went into thyroid storm. Now I am going to start lecturing to other physicians to never just look at ferritin to gauge iron levels. Okay, so what caused this in my case? I have one SNP called H63D which MAY cause mild hemochromatosis and in my case it did, but it took years as I am 58 years of age and I have only donated blood one time up to that point. Not only do I absorb too much iron from foods, but my body has a hard time storing it as ferritin. Most likely you have the same issue. Best of luck.

[@Total_Body_Fitness_USA]

@@viracocha2021 Your body is having a hard time storing iron as ferritin most likely due to a gene SNP called H63D or C282Y. Check your DNA to be sure, but if your ferritin is normal or even low, and your saturation is over 50% on two tests taken one week apart, then you have iron overload. Best of luck!

[@widowswatch6610]

Can it cause gastritis? And burning stomach?

[@edimoelvis9904]

ah yeah l,am currently passing through that issue at moment.

[@rosi4097]

My serum ferritin is low, serum iron is a little high and serum tibc is just at the upper range. What is it?

[@kalyaniweebo2675]

since 1 year my Ferritin level of 1000+ and is it correct time to having Pregnancy?

[@KickItNaturally]

Not understanding this question

[@RobinStorey]

Hi Tony can you do a video on low iron levels? I'm post-menopausal and have low iron levels, (discovered from blood tests) and from my research I've discovered that there is a small proportion of post-menopausal women who have a problem with iron absorption. How can I increase my levels, considering I already eat a lot of iron-rich foods? Or do I need to take a supplement?

[@KickItNaturally]

Love this question Robin. I will make this video soon.

[@Ronzo777]

I've been carnivore for a year and noticed I was having some ED/libido problems. Got my bloods checked have the markers for probable haemochromatosis and also high SHBG. Problem is otherwise I felt better on carnivore. What do you think I should do? Just give blood regularly to get back down to a healthy range and continute carnivore?

[@KickItNaturally]

If iron s high, that's a great place to start, but it can depend on some other factors too. This video can give insights into things to watch with the ED: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6Samqt_jMRpl68 If you get stuck, this page lists a variety of ways to get help or find your own answers so let us know how it goes: kickitnaturally.com/get-help/

[@FiftiesForward]

Its probably not just the meat but vitamin c supplements along with vitamin c foods ..that absorbs iron. But I'm not a doctor

[@eternallygratefulholistic2422]

My iron is 3 x to how long will it take to get feeling better and levels low where it's safe?

[@KickItNaturally]

Can depend on a lot of factors, especially how often you are donating blood, etc.

[@richricogranada9647]

I’m an ovo-vegetarian post menopausal and female am taking Blood Builder supplement because my hair was fall falling. Besides that, my omeletes are cooked in iron skillet. Is that too much?

[@KickItNaturally]

I have no idea. It would depend on your body's current iron levels, right?

[@jacoblas1371]

Hi. My ferritin levels have always been normal, but my saturation fluctuates from 55% to 72%. My doctor isn't concerned. Plus serum iron is always elevated. I tested negative for the genes for hemochromatosis. I am wondering why my saturation is always this high.

[@KickItNaturally]

That is interesting. Might be worth looking at other inflammatory markers as well. I've also heard from people who just tested out donating blood and seeing how they feel.

[@kellylee514]

My brother was recently diagnosed with hereditary hemochromatosis at levels over 600. I asked my doc to run a complete iron panel and she reluctantly ran this: iron binding capacity, UIBC, iron, iron saturation, Ferritin. I'm 54 (no uterus) and my FERRITIN was high, range of 15-150 per LABCORP and mine was 219. Also when it comes to lab ranges Quest shows for someone my age that normal is 16-232 so if that's the case and I'm at 219 am I really in range afterall or do I have to go by LABCORP ranges since that’s who did the test? My Doc said nothing to be worried about and that's that. Do I need to push for more tests? What is the exact genetic test that I need to ask for? She doesn't seem to know about it at all and I don't know if I should see a specialist or not? I also have Hashimoto's, active EBV, MTHFR c677T and feel like I struggle every single day with inflammation, fatigue, brain issues, weight gain, joint pain, etc. My a1c rose to 5.9 but I brought it down to 5.7 over a period of a year. I made her prescribe me a continuous glucose monitor which is super helpful but still trying to figure out why my glucose seems to run high (130) during the day and sometimes super low (55) at night. Especially when I don't eat carbs or processed foods & I try to intermittent fast most days. But I do like my wine with dinner which I'm trying to stop. I know that's a lot but I'm a bit of a mess. I wish I could find one doc or one naturopath that was really good at figuring this out without throwing meds and or 20 supplements at me. When I try to be my own advocate I get that glare. take care!

[@Ss33y]

There is evidence that high iron is linked to low insulin. To be sure you have the genetic form of hemochromatosis your doctor would need to do a genetic testing which is normally not done when the diagnosis is made. It is however very common in the white population 1:200-250 are homozygous ; 1:8 are heterozygous. If you don‘t have the genetic form it might be due to liver disease (the hormon hepcidin which controls iron) is made by the liver or it could be that you have low/no insulin or insulin insensitivity. If its the latter cause you can improve your condition by loosing weight for instance which would improve your hepcidin levels by improving insulin sensitivity. This would lead to less iron accumulation due to the body being able to regulate itself again.

[@klaudiar7347]

So after few years of having these strange symptoms (mainly chronic fatigue, joint pain, frequent kind of infections) at last one doctor noticed I my iron is too high and something should be done with this. I am waiting for next tests to find out the root cause, but already feel better that there is some explanation. In the meantime I was told to take psychiatric drugs (I refused) or that I am simply lazy (I knew this was not the case). I am forty years old woman, always having regular periods, haven't been eating much meat at all, not supplementing iron too. Now throwing away old pots this can be the hidden danger ... 🤔

[@pablosalazar4954]

are vasovagal reactions common donating blood? I am experiencing pain in the upper left after the blood donation

[@terrie817]

That’s your spleen. It’s not in a good state. Spleen is a major iron affected organ and also helps to create new blood along with marrow. It’s struggling to replenish the blood you gave. Take lots of magnesium and some copper to help it. And fresh ginger. And research Morley Robbins.

[@Hasai746]

my ferritin levels are high and my alt but I hate drawing blood😭 is there something I can take to lower it?

[@KickItNaturally]

Hi @Hasai, I hated drawing blood too, but I decided I hated dying of a heart attack more. :) Once you do it a few times, it becomes a lot easier. There are some that believe the steps I talked about in this video could help reduce how much iron is coming in, but the only effective way to get the high iron to come down is through pulling blood out.

[@rongatmen5689]

Make sure that if you donate blood, your hemoglobin level is normal. You can have high ferritin level and have anemia at the same time.

[@autumnconway3642]

Nope.Its what you do and it saves your life

[@1aliveandwell]

Just had labs and wondered if messed up prep of blood for the labs, as iron & TIBC were both high , just above range, sat.% hi in range and ferritin 33. Anemia runs in family so this was a surprise. Maybe is liver health or blood... Will ck w Dr next week.

[@lindaa2437]

​@KickItNaturally It is so cool that you use a very altruistic way to keep your hemochromatosis under control. God Bless you sir!!!

[@n.repear]

I'm also thalassemia mejor paisent. 40/45 days After needed blood. My ferritin level 2900 ... And deferosox table ( 1500mg ) taken daily... This is enough for my iron chelation?

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, that is some high ferritin. I don't have any experience with that. Donating blood or phlebotomy is only thing I've seen work well. Let us know how it goes.

[@flsun722]

What about if you all lower sudden i get a lot of freckles like spots when eat meat then few days later kinda clears up and so on?… is that homachromatosis? They find high echotexture in my Liver… Thanks for your work

[@KickItNaturally]

you really need to look at a full iron panel to get an idea of iron overload is a problem or not.

[@AndreyMakarov-i7h]

I suspect I have this, since eating red meat causes me a lot of pain in my stomach. No other food does that.

[@KickItNaturally]

That is likely more of a digestive malfunction. Red meat is harder to break down. your best bet could be to go through our totally free digestion course because that will walk you through figuring out which aspects of digestion are not working correctly and what steps will help you the most. You can find that free course here: kickitnaturally.com/course Come back and let us know how it goes.

[@wenjingsaf]

It is common knowledge in the religion of Islam, its called Hijama, or wet cupping, its done on odd nights of the lunar Hijri calendar according to certain days of the moon where blood is pooled to the skin, it should be done on an empty stomach and dates or honey should be taken afterwards and person shouldnt shower the same day. Its necessary for Muslim men to get it evey 3 months since life cycle of erythrocyte is 120 days. It gets rid of the old and pushes the body to make fresh new blood. Also there are 10 to 15 major points on the body where the blood should be drawn a major point is the kamahdawah or nape of the neck another one is protrusion of C7 vertebrae. There is a saying of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh for reference: "The Prophet said, "Healing is in three things: cupping, a gulp of honey or cauterization, (branding with fire) but I forbid my followers to use cauterization (branding with fire)."

[@mohamedaydarus7418]

Absolutely.. I was diagnosed with Iron overload and I realised the importance of Hijama- cupping. It’s one of the miracles of Prophet Muhammad

[@BlueSkyBlue973]

I have labcorp ferritin level 120 tibc 242(low), iron 68 and saturation 28%. I dont know what to make of it.

[@KickItNaturally]

You would want to talk to your doctor, but those numbers don't seem like iron overload numbers.

[@ktan88]

Is Ferritin and TIBC sufficient enough to diagnose hemochromatosis ? My ferritin has been around 500 for 4 years.

[@KickItNaturally]

I'm not a doctor and don't diagnose anything.

[@DLNewhouse54]

I have hereditary hemochromatosis my iron levels are 750 and I have alot of symptoms mentioned here,my dr scheduled me for blood letting but my veins are very small and deep and they can't get my blood flow to start ,I don't know what to do now!!

[@KickItNaturally]

I've heard from others with similar problems who said they just had to find a person who was very good at getting into the veins. I've also heard from people who said they needed to help the body access nutrients better to help the vascular system repair and rebuild correctly. your best bet could be to go through our totally free digestion course because that will walk you through figuring out which aspects of digestion are not working correctly and what steps will help you the most so you can get more nutrients out of your food. You can find that free course here: kickitnaturally.com/course Come back and let us know how it goes.

[@wsearp]

Doctors check the blood for iron but they do not think to check the cells.... I always felt better after giving blood..

[@KickItNaturally]

I always felt better too.

[@AverageJoe1006]

Did you guys never faint?

[@DLNewhouse54]

My ferritin levels are 710 and I continue to feel sick

[@panoslianos7312]

Same..709

[@sam_1570]

There is a pharmaceutical solution to iron overload but it is extremely expensive. It's called Jadenu.

[@KickItNaturally]

yeah, but donating blood is free, has no side effects, and they often give you a $20 gift card and a free t-shirt. :)

[@sam_1570]

@@KickItNaturally yes! I do it regularly in fact I'm going this weekend.

[@marceloaguirree]

Is 200 mcd dL of iron too much?

[@KickItNaturally]

I can't give any type of diagnosis answers in video comments.

[@followerofkaos3976]

Just out of curiosity ,who has Romany heritage,and the Celtic curse ??

[@GramJujitsu_Carnivore]

O can’t donate because I’m on oxygen at night.😢 I did try donating blood. I was so weak for over two weeks. I’m at a loss. I’ve been on a carnivore diet and feeling great. Ferritin is the only thing that is off

[@KickItNaturally]

If iron is in range, but ferritin is high, there could be something else creating inflammation or some other imbalance causing trouble. Your best bet could be to go through our totally free digestion course because that will walk you through running simple self-tests you can run at home to get an idea of what imbalances can be creating trouble, and what steps would help you correct them. You can find that free course here: kickitnaturally.com/course Come back and let us know how it goes.

[@fate711]

I think you missed the more common reason of people having high iron by taking too many multivitamins and accidently poisoning themselves on iron.

[@KickItNaturally]

Definitely possible, but That's actually not the more common reason.

[@koolburn5218]

Doctor: Your Iron levels are high, eat a lot of Spinach? Him: Nope Doctor: Ok, just don't. Lol😂😅😅 although pretty funny, how true that Doctors I've seen do this.

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, the best part is that the type of iron in spinach is not even as easy to absorb as other sources.

[@travelwithwings9674]

I have done my iron panel test.. Only ferritin is high around 600 all other iron parameters are normal. Should i be concerned?

[@KickItNaturally]

I"m not a doctor, but high ferritin can be a marker for other metals or inflammation going too high as well. 600 is quite high so I'm assuming your doctor had something to say about that.

[@atexinc.5472]

I learned today my ferritin is 659.

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, mine was even higher than that at one point. If you didn't get a full iron panel, it could be important to ask your doctor to do that.

[@atexinc.5472]

I’m going to donate blood and look into it further

[@hooligan2005]

A good and free way to check your iron levels is to donate blood at a blood drive. They will check that

[@KickItNaturally]

This is an excellent way to get a first insight. But those tests can be very different from a full iron panel. So don't view it as diagnostic.

[@FiftiesForward]

Guess mine isn't as high as others 😮

[@AverageJoe1006]

I have the genetic type and i hate it , i started to hate my life 5 years ago when it all started. my life is ruined cant work depressed and always tired .

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, I spent about 8 years in a nightmare. Here is the video about how I fixed it all : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKrCnnqwiJt9i5Y

[@wsearp]

I used to donate blood a lot, and I always felt much better after a few days.... I can't do it now, so I can't get the benefits from giving blood....

[@Katana_00]

Why can’t you give blood now?

[@wsearp]

@@Katana_00 one thing I supposedly have cancer that has metastasized...

[@Katana_00]

@@wsearp sorry

[@wsearp]

@@Katana_00 I'm ok with it....

[@fondrees]

You don't have to donate... Just drain some blood, I am sure there is a phlebotomist at your Dr.s office or they can refer you. (If your disqualified from donating because of that.

[@Ellie-x4v]

Not really accurate with what he says about women. I had very high iron while menstruating. I could not tolerate the weekly phlebotomies and now get IV fluids each time I get a treatment. Watch out for hypovolemia or even hypovolemic shock. Horrible and dangerous to experience this from frequent phlebotomy. And, be careful to hydrate with electrolytes. Also experienced hyponatraemia from overhydrating with water after phlebotomy. Scary experience.

[@KickItNaturally]

Thanks for sharing your experience. But sounds like you are an extreme case. It is widely known that most women with overload issues will be able to keep things in check until they stop menstruating.

[@Tylenol888]

I have 744. Huhu. Is there hope?

[@KickItNaturally]

That is high. Mine was in that range and it's okay now. But I had to fix it. It's not going to fix itself.

[@Tylenol888]

@@KickItNaturally my doctor appointment is 2 weeks from now to talk about it. I am worrid for 2 weeks if i will have a heart attack. I have gout also.

[@KickItNaturally]

Yeah, I would just ask for an iron panel because they will often leave that out, but if you ask, they wlll do it. Just try not to stress because stress can make things worse. :)

[@Tylenol888]

@@KickItNaturally ok thanks.

[@KickItNaturally]

you bet.

[@sionyevans]

wow man your eating steak everyday too...hahaa..good to hear this...

[@KickItNaturally]

:)

[@annjenschke2502]

Are you familiar with "The Copper Revolution, Healing with Minerals"? It could really help you!! It explains a lot.

[@georgehimon1445]

I've been taking three iron pills a day ,and never have I developed a symptom as they claim.🤯

[@KickItNaturally]

Why would you if you don't have heomochromatosis like we talk about in this video. It's only a problem for those who absorb much more iron than most people.

[@autumnconway3642]

Lmao.Its genetic you doink!

[@kimfowler5997]

I’ve been waiting 6 months for venesections. NHS is a joke

[@KickItNaturally]

Interesting. It used to be hard in the states 15 years ago too. Now, a doctor can just write a presecription here and it's much easier. Hopefully, it gets easier there soon too.