Work Experience Letter on IRCC format | Canadian Immigration

For Canadian immigration proving your work experience is crucially important for skilled work program
00:00 Why IRCC format is important?
01:07 What is in this video for you?
02:17 Content of the experience letter
09:45 Real life examples, no hearsay
10:27 Who to address the letter?
12:02 Who should sign the letter?
16:40 What if the company refuses to issue the letter?
18:44 When to obtain the letter?
19:51 Supporting experience documents?
21:42 What if the company has been closed down?
24:33 How to present Job Description under an NOC?

[@kambysworld-aguidetosecond8215]

This person needs a hand of applause 👏🏻

[@wahab.hussain]

Absolutely amazing. You did a great job to explain everything in detail

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Merci!

[@Thechemistpk]

Thanks Faz Bhai for your great support.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Always welcome

[@asadshaikh8655]

You’re such a most precise and concise person I’ve found for this cause! ❤ Faz bhai plz do tell that, what if employer can only be verified through google map through their address and contact no, as they have no official website and private domain email. Can we explain this in LOE? And what other document we can attach for the authenticity of the employer?

[@muzikminator]

Nicely explained! Could you please give some tips for self employeed people. I had entrepreneurial endeavor in my past work experience which is closed down during covid. Now what supporting documents would i need to show? Do I add JD as per my selected NOC based on my current and prior work experience?

[@uo9268]

Thank you for making such a comprehensive video. Please can you tell us after collecting all these documents for work experience, get them scanned, and then how to upload them? All PDF must be merged together in one document? Or is there an option of uploading separately esp when submitting on OINP ?? Thanks for your response.

[@muhammadasadhashmi5355]

Nicely explained video! on suggestion, you could have shown a sample letter based on any job domain, it might have been a great help. thanks

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

A sample letter is available in Files section of the Facebook Group

[@muhammadasadhashmi5355]

@@FazAnsariSYIC one more thing to ask: for the experience letter: i have 6 years of total experience, My main job role is Software Quality Assurance Engineer. In my 3rd and 4th year, i worked for a company X as a Software Project Manager and also laid out Quality assurance operations. But i have mostly worked for QA in 3 other companies (A.B.C), so now the question arises is: what NOC code should i use for my job at company X? so that it must not conflict with my QA NOC and also avoid disruptions during VISA Process? a reply would be appreciated.

[@amu29-so7vw]

@Jazak Allah Khair for such a nice and comprehensive video. I worked in an industry in Pakistan as a Management Trainee Officer in the Engineering department. As a chemical engineer myself I was a part of a group and my responsibilities were usually that of a chemical trainee engineer. I had a conversation with the HR department of the company and they said that based on their policy -they can only write in the job description the General responsibilities that they have in the documentation for MTO. As it's their policy I cannot say much but unfortunately, I am unable to find the NOC code that matches those responsibilities, If you could help me suggest the most appropriate match for the NOC Code it would be really helpful. 1) Preparing documents and updating records 2 Travelling to different sites based on departmental objectives 3 Establishing good relationships with internal and external stakeholders, and 4 Supporting Managers in various tasks.

[@DoctorKay221]

Does the break time count in work hours? For example: Working hours : 09:00 am to 02:30 Pm Break time: 30 minutes Then, How much hours shoud me mentioned. 5 hours or 5.5 (break time included). Should we count break time for weekly hours ?

[@affanfaridi4743]

Hi Faz bhai, I have a confusion, I am an engineer my current job title is Executive -QA ( Quality Assurance (QA) Engineer title falls under another NOC code), but my jd matches with the Mechanical Engineer NOC code. What Title do you think I should use?

[@digitallearner2157]

great explanation. well done. bhai can you plz provide a sample letter it would be better

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Sample letter is available in Files section of Express Entry Canada Pakistan Chapter Facebook Group

[@kitchenwithsumera1046]

If the previous employer is given a salary as cash not through bank

[@awaisahmedawaisahmed4591]

Sir, i have experience letter of 3 years from 2019-2022 along with 2 reference letters from my supervisors. The hr department of our company don't keep details of their employers after one year of resignation , but my supervisor is currently working in the same company and I will provide reference letter from them with experience certificate(both on company letter head). My point is that usually out hr don't bother to reply to emails related to experience validation but my supervisors will respond to them. Does IRCC verify experience by employers always or mostly by hr? I also have tax returns, cash salary certificate and other docs as well to provide as an evidence.

[@mashhad2722]

Assalamualaikum faz bhai. If a dentist makes an experience letter, should the responsibilities or job description be written in detail? I mean if i write dental filing should i explain this as well? Or just write dental filling?

[@kiddoarts7036]

Sir may I ask some questions about my case ....how can i discuss you, i mean which platform one to one talk about queries

[@sammypraisemusic]

This is an amazing Training session. Great job. How should the employment letter like? Just like reference letter, Should it contain annual salary, working hours, job description and so on? Should it be backdated by the employer or current date?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Employment and reference letter are same thing as long as they meet IRCC requirements of information

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

It can be in current date even for previous employer

[@muhammadjehangir9302]

Hi Faiz bhai. Touching on the last point discussed in your video, matching NOC JD with the experience letter JD, If someone has the matching NOC JD experience but ultimately it comes down to how the employer states or expresses in writing the JD in the experience letter if they agree to in the first place because we can only request them to write in so and so manner but as you can imagine it is highly unlikely HR caters for such specific request as I had this experience with one of my former employers which is a multinational global firm, how can then one ensure to obtain matching JD in experience letter? JazakAllah Khair.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

I believe the other way round. Most HR would ask your functional supervisor to confirm the wording. If the supervisor agrees on the wording HR mostly issues the letter. In a lot of cases, employees draft the letter themselves and HR simply check the employment details and issues the letter. Try your best.

[@muhammadjehangir9302]

Thank you Faz bhai!

[@alibinahmed6651]

Please can you make a video about how to apply for a temporary work permit under AIP as soon as possible! I have to apply and I don't know where to start

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Thanks for your suggestion

[@user-ud1oo3lc8x]

Dear Sir, Thank you so much for this great information. I have a confusion, I have been working in a huge organization for the last 6 years but the first 4 years in Protocol Office or you can say as in Receptionist. but after my Master's degree, I got a promotion to Senior Administrative Assistant, and my NOC is according to administrative assistant. So the experience would be counted as 6 years or 2 years?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Your initial work experience can also be claimed if you manage to prove your experience under an acceptable NOC

[@alihamzabhatti1049]

Great video faz bhai. I have a question is it necessary to upload all pay slips for claiming experience . I mean for 3 years should i have all 36 pay slips in my hand ?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

No. Not all but at least one for each quarter. If there was any bonus and increment attach some of them showing that too

[@musafir-bd]

Thank you Sir for your effort. It was very helpful. I will bother you a bit more for an answer. What can I put on ID number? is that okey if I put my passport number or my national ID number?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Use passport number preferably for identification

[@alibinahmed6651]

Sir I'm stuck with Imm1295e, after pdf file validation of the form I can't save it as PDF, and not sure what to do with the bar codes? Need your help please

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Use a better pdf reader/writer to complete and generate codes for any form which requires so

[@sahifashaheen]

Hi, i work in pharmacy as pharmacist, a small pharmacy, not a big chain pharmacy, no issue of offer letter, appointment letter or experience letter etc (i'll write my self and get signed from owner with proper jD and dates etc), but after watching this video the issue i consider is salary slips or bank statement etc because small pharmacies pay in cash. Though i have proper license issues by district health department for this particular pharmacy but how the issue of bank statement can be solved.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

That’s real challenge. Ask the owner to start paying you via bank account. That shall be great favour to you

[@Phahad]

I have worked in a community pharmacy for 2 years Under NOC 3131, which is now closed, and they have paid me in a cash. The pharmacy was not registered and the owner is a non-filer. But we had a Drug sale license issued by the Pharmacy council of Pakistan. Now what options are for me, Can I make a reference letter by me and signed and stamped by the pharmacy owner + signed and stamped by the District health authority (Area Drug inspector) and attach that Drug sale license too. Problem 1: Paid in cash Problem 2: No appointment letter Problem 3: Business was not registered + the owner is non-filer

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Skip that kind of experience. Why? If the Visa officer does not that experience your score shall be reassessed which may pull you down below the cut off of the draw

[@kambysworld-aguidetosecond8215]

How can get to talk to you on 1 to 1 basis

[@user-ed9gz8bk8i]

Hi, I have watched the whole video but still have two specific queries. I will be very grateful if you can help in answering them for me. 1. I have worked in an organisation for 2 years but as a third party employee. I was receiving salary or any other documents on the letterheads of recruitment firm. While mentioning my experience on express entry profile should I mention the recruitment firm as an employer or the actual company as an employer? The reference letter I received is on the recruitment firm letterhead mentioning that I am responsible for their xyz client with certain responsibilities. 2) I have worked in Warid which is now a merged co with JAZZ. I will get noc based letter from jazz mentioning that I have worked in warid which is a merged co now but on the letterhead of JAZZz so ahould I mention JAZZ OR warid as an employer? Appreciation if you can help me with these questions

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

1- get two letters. Company you were employed by shall confirm everything about your employment as per IRCC requirements however the company to which you were ASSIGNED shall confirm your job description/roles/responsibilities. Use LoE to explain this arrangement

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

2- name of the employer shall be considered as per the official stationary on which you will get the current reference letter. Explain in LoE that why your initial employer name on documents like appointment letter is different from reference letter

[@nishtasnim]

Hi! I have a question. I know dates are important but the date of issue of my work experience letter is not in printed form. The date is handwritten by my employer next to his signature, will this be an issue?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

That’s fine. No issue

[@VivekKatira]

i get paid in cash and i worked as a carpenter in a shop. how I proof my experience

[@ahmedkhattak2937]

Hi @faz, i have a question is it necessary for 3 years work experience to be 3, 1 year long jobs, or would one job for 8 months, 2nd job for 1 year and 3rd job for 1 year 4 months totaling upto 3 years total experience count for express entry ?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

You can combine several experiences like these to claim max three years points

[@sandeepkumarnangdev3469]

can IRCC have any objection if one has a long experience of 7+ years under same designation (without any promotion)? or do they even ask that why the applicant has not been promoted for so long?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

No they don’t mind it

[@mansoorahmadkhan3623]

Q1) I have only Offer Letter + Experience, Is it enough? Q2) I do not have any salary slips other than my last 3 companies out of 6. Because they were not registered, they used to transfer from their own bank. What should I do now? Q3) Do we need signatures on every document such as Offer Letter? What if I can't reach them out now or company has closed.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

I do videos so that responding to FAQs is easy for me. Everything you asked has been discussed in this video. Just watch once more. Thanks

[@DrShaileshUpadhyay-yg3bo]

Can I give referance letter to my spouse. ....I m secondary applicant and our establishment is registered on my name. ....please guide

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Spouse can be employed but you meed to prove her role in your business and payment thereagainst

[@talhamufti1560]

AOA Sir, as you mentioned that ICRC may contact the company for confirmation. What if I do not want to inform my company about the immigration process and somehow I manage to get the reference letter from them. And then ICRC contact the company. So it can cause problem for me. My question is that is it compulsory that ICRC will contact the company or it is done in just a few cases How it can be avoided? Thanks.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

In some cases employers are contacted and your employment details must be confirmed when contacted. You ll have to skip claiming points for this employer if you don’t want to disclose your immigration plan

[@talhamufti1560]

@@FazAnsariSYIC I have worked in 2 organisations. My previous employer used to pay in cash with no proof. And the current employer deposits my salary in my bank account. So if I skip the current experience, then my 3 years experience requirement won't be fulfilled. So can I just ask the previous employer to give me experience letter of 3 years? If yes, so then how would I prove that it was paid job.

[@awaisahmedawaisahmed4591]

Sir, I have experience letter on company letter head but it is not on IRCC format as here in pakistan letters are. My question is that if I get reference letter from my employer ( my manager etc) that includes all job responsibilities, hours and all related details, will it be enough because hr is not willing to issue me experience letter on that format. Kindly guide

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Try to get from HR. most companies at request add duties to letter

[@kambysworld-aguidetosecond8215]

Hi I have applied my application under Express Entrty program aand my noc code is 72602 Deck Officer. Although, my job noc code is in catogory based program but I have doubt regarding the work experience. My work experience is of 3 years which is contractual based that is 6 months of work onboard and 4-6 months vacations (includes employer vocational courses/training). During my vacations I am not on the payroll with my employer but still in continuous employment as i am involved in attending their vocational trainings/course. I have more than 1560 hours of work accumulated in each year of my work exp. So as my job nature is contractual based will it be a problem claiming full time work exp as per ircc?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

That’s good. Your first draw has just happened. Get into the pool asap

[@kambysworld-aguidetosecond8215]

@@FazAnsariSYIC but you didn’t aswer my query. Please help

[@engrmuhammadbilal8942]

Faz bhai, I will also post a post in the group of Facebook, but my question is my most of the experience in the last 7 years of working in the industries are less then one year. I have a work experience of Pakistan, QATAR and currently in KSA (You know that already). My question here is that, Will it make any negative comments if I am trying to get a federal skilled Visa. My struggle is for the direct job placement before landing on any state of Canada 🇨🇦.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

No impact of having multiple staggered experiences

[@sakinabatool8148]

I have 3 years of work experience. Do I need salary slips for all the months? Or just last drawn salary on every position that i held?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

At least once for a quarter is recommended number of slips

[@majorm.a.v8750]

Sir the firm i worked for has refused to issue letter. what's the solution/alternative

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Please skip to the relevant chapter im this video. It has bene discussed

[@sufyannazim7519]

AOA.. Faiz Bhai..my wife primary candidate she has several years experience in I.T department but she doesn't have I.T related education.. since she has done B.A then M.A..please give your advice..

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

What kind of IT experience she has? How is got training

[@altamashali1776]

@Faz Ansari for experience letter, is it fine to mention CNIC for Pakistan based job and passport number for foreign job ?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

You can mention any of two as CNIC can be tallied from passport’s first page

[@altamashali1776]

@@FazAnsariSYIC thanks alot ❤

[@abdulazizessam5577]

I have to get letters from 5 companies in order to prove 3 years of work experience. Only the current company's HR will issue me the letter as per IRCC format. For the other four companies, I have letterheads on which I can print the reference letter with details as mentioned in your video. But this will be signed by a manager who is still working in the company. Is this an issue?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

I wouldn’t recommend as explained in this video

[@abdulazizessam5577]

@@FazAnsariSYIC I have watched the video, how should I go about it then? I'm planning to submit eAPR in the next 15 days.. applying as a single applicant FSW-O... Any help would be appreciated.

[@engr.waqasahmad899]

Assalam o Alaikum Sir, It was very informative video that answered almost my 99% of the questions already. However I've some queries below regarding WE (Work Experience), 1- I'm from Pakistan working in KSA should I go for my Passport ID on my W.E or KSA ID already mentioned on my old W.E, will it work for me? 2- Employer only mentioned duration like 01 March 2014 till 31 July 2018. working hours not mentioned, Is it OK ? 3- I'm a telecom engineer by qualification but first 5 years have WE as an electrical engineer and now 7 years working as telecom engineer. I have two NOC options Electrical and electronic 2133 OR computer engineering 2147. so which NOC should I choose ?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

W Salam 1- either is fine

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Have working hours or office timing mentioned to confirm your full time status

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Use NOC 2021 version. These NOC are from previous version. Choose computing related NOC as primary

[@AliHaider-bg3vv]

Hi Faz, I work for a Dubai-based software company remotely from Pakistan. There is no tax on a salaried person in Dubai. Plus, my salary is disbursed as remittance through wire transfer directly into my bank account, and there is no tax deduction on it as per the law. Can you please guide me on how would I file my income tax returns in order to prove my work experience? Thank you!

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

Still you can file returns. Please check with tax consultant

[@AliHaider-bg3vv]

@@FazAnsariSYIC Thank you so much. You're doing an amazing job.

[@engrmuhammadbilal8942]

Would my LinkedIn profile is enough for my job description?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

No, a confirmation of JD by the employer shall be needed

[@engrmuhammadbilal8942]

@@FazAnsariSYIC 👍

[@awaisahmad3399]

Salam FazAnsari sir. Sir I worked in a company on a contract of 1.5 year on a fixed salary & then i left that job to do Masters. My salary was paid in cash having no salary slip but i got following letters for my professional record : 1. Contract letter (on company letter head by HR) 2. Salary in cash letter (on company letter head by HR) 3. Experience letter on IRCC format (on company letter head by HR) 4. 2 reference letters signed by my supervisor & General manager 5. Company cards also available of myself & and both reference persons Are these documents enough to prove my experience points?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

W Salam Documents look fine but I recommend watching this too for better documentation Cash paid work Experience | Canadian Immigration kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpOllaFujpt5e7c

[@awaisahmad3399]

@@FazAnsariSYIC ok thnaks sir

[@awaisahmad3399]

Sir what if a person has an experience of 6 months in a company then he switched to another one & has 1.5 years of work experience there. Will it be counted as 2 year experience as there is no gap in between or only 1.5 year because of less than an year in a company?

[@faysalpanjwani2442]

Me and my spouse are associated with very reputed organization on a managerial level and we know that our HR will not provide roles and responsibilities letter however they will confirm on official letter head that we are working on these positions at current pay level, benefits and duration of work. In that case many people in our organization had applied for PR and they got reference letter from their head. Would that be acceptable because I have witnessed the real example from our organization and my colleagues that they got thire PR smoothly. My boss also did that he was a manager and he got the reference letter from the administrator Now we are on this stage what to do please guide Sorry for the long post

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

That means your organisation does have the kind of policy on staff matter. If you have precedents from your work place you can follow the suit but I ll still suggest to get a refusal email from HR as I described in the video

[@faysalpanjwani2442]

@@FazAnsariSYIC yes I believe so Might be they will not do that because of their protocols they have provided a standard generic JD during evey hiring or every promotion . For example they have so many administrative officers in many departments there standard role are similar and some roles are different they used standard practices but always use any other task assigned by head which starts everything..hope you understand what I am trying express you..

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

@@faysalpanjwani2442 absolutely

[@faysalpanjwani2442]

@@FazAnsariSYIC in that case letter from top leadership would suffice, please confirm? Secondly is there any possibility that you will provide your expert advice in reviewing my documents? I saw a video in which Ali Iftikhar recommended you for this.

[@ahmedzaki3713]

Assalam Alikum, thank you, your content is awesome! I need a little help with a matter. I am working as the Accounts & Finance manager in a small IT-based company and I am also an active partner. Is my experience as an Accounts & Finance manager valid jzkallah Khair

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

W Salam That’s not an issue as long as you are getting yourself paid from company’s account to yourself A fixed remuneration On regular basis

[@ahmedzaki3713]

@@FazAnsariSYIC Thank you so much for guidance ! May Allah Bless you with more and more

[@rizwanmahmood9507]

Aoa Faz bhai, me and my wife are going to enter in the pool very soon. My wife being the primary applicant, worked in her father's company for more than 3 years. The experience is legit, with full-time employment and salary being paid into her bank account. She will be able to get her reference letter from the HR but my concern is, do we need to mention to IRCC that she was working in her dad's company? Im genuinely concerned if we do not mention this crucial information they might take it as a misinterpretation. Please enlighten us with the right information Sir, thank you very much.

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

W Salam No if she was paid for her contribution to father’s business formally then declaration is not needed.

[@rizwanmahmood9507]

@@FazAnsariSYIC Thank you very much Sir. May Allah bless you for what you are doing

[@BigBrother4Life]

Sir what is your consultancy?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

[e-mail]

[@rasheeda341]

Sir where is your office ? Any contact. ?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

[e-mail]

[@user-ud1oo3lc8x]

Dear Sir, Thank you so much for this great information. I have a confusion, I have been working in a huge organization for the last 6 years but the first 4 years in Protocol Office or you can say as in Receptionist. but after my Master's degree, I got a promotion to Senior Administrative Assistant, and my NOC is according to administrative assistant. So the experience would be counted as 6 years or 2 years?

[@FazAnsariSYIC]

You can claim both experiences

[@kanwalmerchant3058]

Thank you so much