Working On The 9 Month Cruise Is Wild

[@ufollie]

I imagine the only thing worse than being stuck on a cruise for months is being stuck on a cruise for months except it's your job.

[@h.davies5140]

idk at least you're being paid to be there

[@mattdoesntknowwhattodowith5760]

They should strike for higher pay. What are they going to do other than listen to their demands lol

[@stretchmonster]

@@mattdoesntknowwhattodowith5760 They're free to find another job.

[@blucolife]

It's a dream job for many, and plenty are willing to take his place.

[@davedoesthingsdreaded]

I did a 9 month contract on a cruise ship as a cook and it wasn't bad and I'm American so surprise, holy shit it's not terrible. Kids commenting on shit they know nothing about is crazy to think about

[@corbinbrier0]

Imagine paying 60-100 grand to relive middle school science class on a cruise.

[@TchSktch]

with unlimited liquor btw lmao (i dont actually know this just joking)

[@bee.2392]

@@TchSktchyes they have free access to alcohol. Iirc they started to run out like 2 weeks in

[@Theunicorn2012]

Imagine paying 60-100 grand to relive middle school sciene class on a cruise.

[@hida99ash]

Shut up, bot ​@@Theunicorn2012

[@mr.duck1246]

You should watch the reality show below deck. It’s about working on luxury super yachts, so basically all the guests are like mega rich and most of them are really annoying. It gives a bit of an insight into the industry, although not every job is highlighted, mostly the customer service jobs are highlighted.

[@SpicyPlur]

Not the show that had a live attempted rape 😂 or the woman who told the victim "I would of let him

[@EvilPinely]

Def gonna look into it thank you mr duck

[@ilymizu]

@@EvilPinelypls make a video watching it 😆

[@spiffygroove]

@@EvilPinely I also recommend Karissa eats! She worked as a performer on a cruise ship and most of her content is food oriented but she did make a number of videos about her average day in the life

[@mocktrialbabe]

Below deck is very much a reality show just FYI

[@quabey_]

Damn they paid 60k just for the hope that Pinely would make a video about them

[@rachelhyatt5766]

😂😂😂

[@levihalperin7649]

And all they got was evil pinely

[@snakeygirl4296]

Worth it (for pinely vid only)

[@TJThomas116]

woh that one egg with the parachute truly was a 60k cruise egg drop egg

[@mothmaniel]

i went on a week-long caribbean cruise with my parents when i was 15. by the first day i was already sick but our waiters who had been working with the company for years were the nicest, happiest people. at one point they explained how they stay on the ships for a third of the year. it was the only time they broke their happy attitudes talking about how they don't get to see their families and their children. everyone on the cruise was also really rude and impatient with the staff while we were there. i felt so bad for them but i figured they must enjoy their jobs if they've been working so long.

[@mothmaniel]

@@angelalovell5669 i was a little worried people would think thats what i meant. i actually said that because that was how they expressed it to me. i would never assume something like that! but rather than speculate on their lives outside the cruise, i just believed what they told me

[@hothoneymustard]

@@angelalovell5669also don’t assume everyone in the service industry is totally miserable. Just don’t assume?

[@okaycola2]

@@mothmanielservice is a calling.

[@SidVacant69]

​@@hothoneymustardfr, I jus mind my own business and treat workers with respect.

[@henryy.4878]

Making 1,350$ per month (16,200$ annually) is literally only about 3,000$ dollars above the yearly poverty threshold for a single person. That’s insane they get paid so little and work that much.

[@henryy.4878]

*US poverty threshold

[@melissabennett4328]

Yeah, except all of your expenses are covered. So it's basically $16,200 in savings each year. Which isn't bad. That's a house down payment in the Midwest. And if you're from a different country than America, the savings would go even further.

[@Cryinginthecloudssss]

I compliantly agree. These people are paid just a lil bit more then what my disabled dad gets a month from his benifits…. That’s not good for either side

[@Cryinginthecloudssss]

@@melissabennett4328….different countries have different currencies. So if you work and you are from another country that’s not America….you are getting screwed over even more cause you’re paid in your countries currency and what ever their wage is for that job in that country ..it is not converted to the American currency and then back. Not to mention probably cover lil to no medical insurance so you’re still one big medical bill away from being homeless 🤷‍♀️

[@toomanyopinions8353]

except all your expenses are paid… are we just going to ignore that?

[@zenleeparadise]

I lived at my workplace for a while - on a goat farm. And to answer your question, at least from my experience: the experience of days off was like having no days off. I don't know a single "day off" I had where I didnt do unpaid labor. Never live on site at your workplace unless you want it to be your whole life! (Which goes without saying imo lol I also don't regret working at that goat farm, shout out to the goats!)

[@mocktrialbabe]

You can't just say you lived on a goat farm and not tell us more.

[@elina4005]

I mean on your days off just get up early and run off somewhere or lock yourself in the room to avoid it, atleast that's what I'd do lol

[@oneofmanykats]

Totally different job, but I worked as a live-in nanny at 19, and that was the same. I had no boundaries and just took over for the Mom 24/7.. while she focused on her MLM. Was supposed to have Saturday and Sunday off, but somehow ended up spending Saturdays working trade shows and at church with the kids on Sunday.. for free, but the main reason is because I couldn't say no. When I found out I needed surgery where my ankle would be rebroken and fused, she begged me to have my Mom come stay with us while I recover. Fortunately, I said no to that. Leaving those kids was one of the hardest days of my life. Sucks that she went no contact when I left the MLM she'd gotten me to join. 🙄 Great learning experience, though, and I am grateful for my time with those sweet, amazing babies.

[@deadgirlwalkingg]

Yeah same, I worked in a bar at the lake during summer and had a room there. It was the worst period of my life since the boss turned out to be toxic, I didn't allign with my coworker who lived with me, so honestly all of this, even free evenings that I was forced to spend in a way I didn't enjoy, felt like labor. Not to mention, instead of some days off, I only got some hours to go to the beach and even then I was stressed about having to go back because none of it was scheduled and I knew my boss expects me to help 🙉 what a nightmare

[@slendveny7191]

Goated

[@maitaniyama]

I first thought “yikes $1350/month that’s awful.” Then realized that after rent, food, utilities, and gas I pocket less than that. And I’m not near the poverty line. Still, I wouldn’t want to deal with horrible customers, I tried to be super nice to the staff when I went on NCL because I saw others who definitely were not.

[@mattymerr701]

Unless they are homeless, they also need somewhere to go back to at the end of the job

[@NankitaBR]

None of this is out of the ordinary for the cruising industry. The only difference between this ship and othwr ships is that passengers can stay all 9 months in a single trip, but even that I have met people that spent that amount of time in a single year in cruises when I worked at the check-in of a cruise line, the only difference is that they had to book more then one cruise to do so. But the working conditions are pretty much the same in any cruise. Edit: the workload of people in cruise ships is very heavy but that's why they work in 6 months or 1 year contracts, and a lot of people work just one contract, spend some time at home and then either go back to another contract or find other jobs. But thise contracts are usually attractive because the salary is good and while you are working at the ship you pretty much have all basic expenses covered, so of you want to you can save all the money you make to do something later in your life.

[@x-gate-gate-gate]

I have known quite a few musicians that worked on cruise ships. For them, it was great because they got better treatment and rooms than other staff. They also made decent money which was almost completely disposable. I have heard that the conditions are much worse for the "lower rank" staff who have to share a room with multiple people and are not allowed above deck where the guests are. Really depends on the type of job you get but the better paying ones seem to work for people I know. But even then, you cannot do it long-term or you go stir crazy and lose sense of reality.

[@somethingsomething404]

exactly pinely acts like all crew are equal

[@skippykay599]

My dad was in a cover band in the 90s and got offered a gig on a cruise ship lol. They turned it down because they would be spending their entire summer at sea and thought that they would absolutely go stir crazy, but apparently the offer was pretty good. With how much cruise ships have gotten bigger since then I wouldn’t be surprised if musicians today get treated pretty well

[@demetriam2408]

I can't even imagine being a captain, having so many people's lives in your hands while having to pay constant attention to your surroundings plus being stuck at sea. I can barely drive a goddamn car.

[@luli9364]

I had a dance teacher that is now on her 3rd year of working on cruises non-stop. Her life actually looks very cool. She does share the tiniest room with another person, but I 100% believe that the views and the money (we're not from the US, so USD$1300 amounts to around 6 or 7 ordinary salaries from here) are worth it

[@guesswh4]

@@somethingsomething404 literally says they aren't in the video. But it's egregious that the on deck crew, the people constantly working with people, doing the most taxing job, get the least benefits and worst wage.

[@outlawbri]

i never worked on a cruise ship but i did work on a whale-watching tour ship, a little more serious than most boat tours, we did 2 six hour trips per day. So i would be spending about 14 hours a day on the ship and 12 of those hours with guests. It was rewarding a lot of the time, but exhausting and I can't imagine living full time on this ship for months on end. Even at my current job, which is at a zoo, I don't go to my zoo on my days off or for zoo-employee only nights, because it feels like im working just being there.

[@littleguy8714]

I feel you, I worked at a children’s museum, when they hosted a workers only night like noooo thanks haha.

[@emila9899]

Pinely i had a dream last night that danny gonzalez made a video about you but for the whole video he was just talking about how handsome you are

[@XENOWOLFI]

Let’s make this real

[@banukaii]

the goncharov of danny gonzalez videos

[@iricandescence]

I love this

[@quollstar]

as he should

[@avalonperez3806]

This made me laugh XD That would be so silly

[@lakegroce685]

Thank you for talking about the employees. They are literally the only people I cared about when it came to this insane cruise. Also,I feel like if they showed the movie Parasite to the guest, a few of them would have some kind of cognitive dissonance.

[@FileCode1459]

parasite and triangle of sadness would be wild picks for a movie night on a cruise (i'd love to see that)

[@iamspidermcmahon]

I've never worked on a cruise ship myself, but I know a few people who have as circus performers. I think for what we do, it's a better deal because circus performers don't make much more on land. Cruise ships offer consistent pay, housing, and food which is rare to find if your a performer unless you manage to get hired by a large company like cirque du solei.

[@theokkali467]

I still remember when you were a box, ahh the ol days!

[@ryshow9118]

Still a box, the KZbinr mask just got stuck 😅

[@ltaus9225]

Labor rules for people in transportation are all sorts of whacky. Planes, trains, boats and semis have tons of regulations that don't make sense. I work for a major US airline and they can keep us on the clock for 32 hours. We can work 13 days straight (more if youre willing). I recently worked 1300-2130 then got mandatory overtime 0030-0830 the following day. Most people outside of transportation I've talked to have never even heard of the term mandatory overtime. (Opposed to voluntary overtime)

[@flygirl6048]

Yeah. I've been learning more about professional pilot rest rules and they can be so insane because we're under the Railroad Act. The company I'm looking at is under fire from their employees by having mandatory overtime & making their pilots work 16 hour days consistently (which, if you know what kind of mental energy it takes to operate a large hunk of metal, thats insane)

[@bleuumscarlett7977]

The nurses in my province have mandatory overtime too, so it's not totally unheard of, but it's brutal that's for certain

[@stretchmonster]

Not to mention a lot of you guys have to deal with customers, which is its own kind of hell.

[@jah_____]

Mandatory overtime is crazy

[@monsterglacier]

Are you talking to white collar people? Most general labor jobs also have mandatory overtime. About 75% of the warehouses i worked at as a temp required mandatory OT every so often

[@littleguy8714]

I was an RA in college, talk about living where you work. Even when ur not “working” you’re essentially on call 24/7 if a resident needs u or there’s an issue in the dorm. I know public perception says were narcs, but truly the most common occurrence was a mental health crisis on the floor, all those poor post Covid freshmen needed so much help, plus I was working a real job elsewhere on campus. 😢😅 one time there was an active shooter near the college(we lived in a city) and they locked the campus down, I had calls and texts from all 40 of my residents! It was a bad time. The toll it takes on someone to live and work somewhere is crazy.

[@rosiejl2798]

Yup I lived in Uni accommodation and apart from letting people in when they lost their keys a lot of the RA's job was dealing with mental health crisis's, students struggling with study and helping students access support services and worried parents too. I have no idea how much training they got but my RA was a fantastic and empathetic listener despite having to handle some very serious situations. Of course crisis's tend to happen during exam time and in the middle of the night so that's also a lot for them to deal with when they are also studying.

[@littleguy8714]

@@rosiejl2798 in my experience, I was an RA for 3 yrs in college, soph-senior, every year we had 3 weeks of training and prep before the fall semester, then 2-1 weeks before the Spring, then we had weekly meetings, written reports, and monthly director meetings. it was a lot, i did feel like i had the training to provide assistance to my residents, i just also felt there's so many outside factors that affect students other than just college course load so that was always hard. i honestly wouldnt suggest doing it if i could tell my younger self that.

[@kassemir]

I feel like there's a downside to not paying for housing. Namely, that, between jobs, you need to constantly be on the look out for places to rent short term. To me, that sounds stressful as hell.

[@raviamodernepic]

That rendition of Under The Sea * chef's kiss *

[@879SCSP]

I got lost in the staff quarters accidentally during my last cruise and the difference was legit shocking to see in terms of rooming and decorations

[@ahhhhhwahaaaa630]

I have a similar job in the summer where I live where I work (usually a small isolated island) only accessible by boat. It's off-the-grid and we are only able to communicate via VHF radios. We deal with tourists as well and we're expected to take a "day-off," but you end up doing work anyway because you see tourists every day, YET our boss would want us to keep track those extra hours by the minute. She'll make you feel guilty for working on your day-off and guilty if you outright do nothing. The "mandatory" day-off was so they could get away with not paying us that extra day, and to avoid labour laws that prohibit employers from making you work 7 days a week. I worked an 8 week shift. I had to beg for a day off, THEN once I got back into town I faked having explosive diarrhea and never came back no matter how many times she called me LOL

[@satellite991]

I live where I work lol; at an artist residency not a cruise ship, so it's not exactly the same; but some of the basic stuff IS similar. It can be exhausting - even on 'off' days things still come up that you'll have to take care of. I get it though; the perks & unique experiences can make up for a lot of the detractions. A live/work situation like that isn't sustainable long-term, but it can be insanely cool & fun while you're able to do it.

[@cactusthestupid7222]

I've heard that the working conditions vary a lot based on which country the ship is registered to (because the ship will have the labor laws of that country). The one cruise ship that's registered in the US is apparently very desirable because the laws it is subject to are better for its employees.

[@Morepanthers]

I worked up in the mountains at glacier national Park when there was no cell phone and no Internet and the nearest city was a 2 hour drive. We all lived in dorms with bunk beds. Basically we all just worked a lot and spent the rest of time hiking and partying. Pretty fun summer!

[@ComradeMarlow]

It's crazy how they paid 60k to participate in an egg drop competition

[@blucolife]

BS. They paid $60k to travel around the world on the trip of a lifetime. Mr. Crewman is just jealous he can't afford it. Since he can't be rich, he must piss on the rich. How sad.

[@davedoesthingsdreaded]

I was a cook on a cruise ship and my job had no days off 10-12 hours a day with an hour or 2 lunch break in the middle. Minimum contract 5 months could extend up to 10 months My job was paid hourly and if i remember correctly i think i got 10.50 an hour and before i went i was making around 20 an hour in the city i worked in which is really because of my experience in the industry. The cruise line does not care about experience when considering pay. I did have a lot of expenses. My rent was high, bills, gas parking in downtown was shit and i was just kind of ready for a change. I did not own a lot of things so i packed my things and drove to my families house in a different city and headed out on an adventure. I was on a cruise ship that went around the Hawaiian Islands so that part was cool. The first month i hated it probably because working long hours everyday with no days off was something i had to get used to but eventually i did get somewhat used to it and i was able to get off the ship for a few hours a week to see the Islands mostly at night when the ship was docked overnight. Yes food and shelter are paid for and usually a decent amount of food options but nothing was fantastic but it would fill you up and keep you alive. You did have to pay for any snacks and toiletries any extras you wanted. I like redbull and found myself drinking a couple a day to keep going. I would get a case each week at walmart. Crew is allowed to bring beverages on board unlike guests. I dont drink alcohol but you could buy that onboard but there is a very strict policy of crew members not being over .04 bac at any time so was kind of baffling to me that there was a crew bar and you could buy a bottle of wine to take to your room if i remember correctly. People did still get messed up off and on the ship but there was security as soon as you stepped onto the ship that would breath test you if you seeemed heavily intoxicated and would immediately escort you to your cabin to gather your things and remove you from the ship and leave you in whatever port only for you to pay your own way home or wherever you were going so if you like to drink and smoke weed be aware of the alcohol policy and they do random drug tests each week i think 50 random people and i was tested 3 weeks in and a couple months. Some people still would anyway because the test was always the same day each week so they may smoke that first day or 2 after tests were given and spend the week detoxing. I loved to smoke before going but i just didn't bother because your spending so much time working that after awhile you really just want to relax a bit and go to sleep. Its not a job for everyone. You need to know its long hours with no days off for months. Covid hit during my contract and we disembarked all guests and everyone was put into their own rooms so going from small crew cabins with 2 other stinky dudes to my own guest room was a nice break but we were not allowed off the ship for a month before cruise line offered a ticket home which i did not really have but i went to my families city to live and eventually got settled into a nice job so when cruising resumed again i chose not to got back as well as many people i was in contact with chose not to as we My thoughts are that if you're a single person who just wants to do something different maybe you feel stuck in your situation go for it. Its got to be hard for people in relationships or if you have children to be away but you might be able to do it. $400 bucks a week is not much money but there are other jobs. If i did it over i would've gone for a tipping job. I was promised chance of promotions but quickly after getting there i realized no one gets promoted from the position they accept. Just be aware you may absolutely hate it at first as most do but give it a month before you start thinking about buying a plane ticket home. They only buy your ticket to the ship and home when you finish your contract

[@fairwindsemptyroads]

I don’t work on a cruise ship, but I do live on my sailboat in Mexico currently. Life on the sea is pretty dope and super cheap if you do it right. Except for the whole buying of the boat part. We just bought a boat instead of a house because that’s all we had the money for and now I’m so glad we did!

[@ajxx21]

I thought that hallway was a hospital hallway for a split second before I realised it was the behind the scenes walkway

[@soupy9574]

please never stop covering this 🙏

[@mariaisabel-rb1gc]

i cant stop thinking about "triangle of sadness" when i hear about this cruise

[@MysticEden]

I worked at a camp for behaviorally lets say challenged kids and it was similar to this. You lived on site, got next to nothing in pay and no actual days off... It drove me crazy and I couldn't even finish my three month contract...

[@littleguy8714]

Hey that’s crazy, I also left a really toxic camp situation, the employers were ROUGH, I just couldn’t do it!

[@MysticEden]

@@littleguy8714 it’s impossible!

[@tacowolf1765]

I'm so intrigued by this whole thing and I'm loving these updates! Can't wait for the main channel update later. For anyone interested, the podcast My Favorite Murder has covered a few different ship stories. One specifically about a cruise ship was from Episode 315 titled "Here Be Monsters!" it's the story of Moss and Tracy Hills. It's pretty epic. There's also an article based on this event titled "The guitarist who saved hundreds of people on a sinking cruise liner" On MFM, they usually do two stories an episode, this one starts around 50 or 52 minutes in, depending on where you're listening. Episode 348 called "Old Biscuit" covers the survival story of the Titanic's baker, Charles Joughin and episode 365 "You Don't Ever Know" includes the story of a ghost ship called the Mary Celeste. Just throwing these out there for the morbidly curious. I couldn't handle working on a cruise ship, but it's cool that some people seem to really enjoy it. Tbh it would be cool if they were getting paid more than minimum wage, but idk they *seem* happy??

[@Caseydia1]

There’s an episode of The Patriot Act where they talk about the cruise ship industry. But, I only wanted to put it in a comment because I think it would answer a lot of your questions. Love your videos!

[@zenleeparadise]

I'm so mad but so not surprised at the same time that that show was cancelled.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

​@@zenleeparadiseWhy?

[@yourwife1111]

Obsessed with the 9 month cruise updates

[@SimonHirsch]

Thank you for the cruise update pinely u are my favorite cruise tea youtuber

[@_rosietoes]

babe wake up new pinely 9 month cruise video just dropped

[@Bb___________]

A friend of mine works for a VERY high end cruise line and she loves it. She basically does one month on one month off. She pays significantly less in tax, and she's gotten to see some really amazing parts of the world while on the job.

[@FrankYammy]

This a damn lie.

[@mikaross4671]

Uh uh, $1,300 a month is so little. That is not worth it. Especially learning they only get hours off, not days off?? tf

[@catelynh1020]

Well, it's different if you think about it this way. Pretend they get paid more but are paying straight from their salary into their necessities. So they could be paid $4k a month but spending 1k for rent, a few hundred for food, a few hundred for all utilities, etc. I mean, taking home nearly 1.5k a month that is your money not going to any of your living needs is actually kinda cool. I know i have a job that gives me a salary higher than that yet i only get a few hundred to put into savings a month if i'm lucky. The no days off really sucks though, especially since i am currently experiencing random period cramps where i can't stand straight until they're over and at times like that i take time off. I'm also not social enough to be able to handle people for that much time and need weekends at least to recharge before facing people at work monday mornings

[@ebenezer-scrooge]

you can see dolphins though, so that makes it worth it

[@stretchmonster]

Reading these comments I feel like half of y'all are still living with your parents.

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

​@@stretchmonster why does it matter if someone does? The economy sucks right now and I'll never be able to afford a house in my lifetime. The "cheapest" rent where I live is $1,000. I don't live with my parents but I'm not going to judge someone if they do.

[@loverrlee]

I knew someone who did this but I have no idea HOW they managed to do this

[@doyoureadme94]

Finally, the perspective I was waiting to hear from.. 🍿

[@LaSegadora]

Former cruise ship member here, my partner is still there and definetly has its pros and cons, but the last tiktok with the girl explaining the salaries was pretty accurate.

[@sumlem]

Freelance work and working from home is more like working where you live. Which can still do a number on someone's mental health, don't get me wrong. The concept of living where you work gets more dystopian when it's done in other fields of work like factory job, farms, hotels, etc.

[@amekovworp]

when he brought up tips it hit me that theres american passengers isn't there? even in the non-tip based jobs run by 'foreign' companies.

[@welpppppppppppppp]

tipping is Expected from what i understand

[@crumbdinger]

afaik from watching way too many cruise videos now… tipping expectations somewhat depend on the country of origin of the ship/company but generally tipping is expected HOWEVER some cruise packages include a % for gratuity. Not sure how they divvy up prepaid gratuity on board, would be interested to learn.

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

Yeah, I’ll take my office job every day of the week. I can go home when I feel ill. I can come in late because my tires needed to be inflated. I can takeoff early for family events. None of which I could do if I was an indentured servant, floating in the ocean. So I think I might have won this round

[@GingaGirl2000]

my grandpa used to play music on the cruise ships between turku and stockholm :) it's like a 22 hour cruise so it's not that long, but i think he did stay on board for like a couple of weeks at a time still. thanks for the video! very informative

[@Katie-sk4hu]

I haven’t worked on a cruise, but did work for a holiday company for a couple months and lived on site. I worked hospitality waitressing, running events, cleaning, washing up etc. The laws have changed since then, but at the time we only earned about £400/month as the other benefits (housing/food/electricity/lift passes) ‘counted’ towards our salary. This also wasn’t America so tips are essentially non-existent (like €25/week split between 5 of us if we had a nice older couple staying). We’d get one day off a week but it was essentially impossible not to bump into guests so you always had to be ‘on’. All in all, it was a fun experience for a couple of months as a summer job as a teenager/early twenties. I lived in a gorgeous place, got to do lots of fun things and for my teenage responsibilities the pay was fine. When I came home I slept for a week straight. A fun experience, but I could never do it as a full time job.

[@rachelcookie321]

If I didn’t get terrible sea sickness, I totally would work on a cruise ship, it seems so fun to me. The fact you live and work there just makes it seem more fun to me. It wouldn’t be something I want to do long term but I think it would be fun for like a year.

[@TheContemporaryAlchemist]

I subscribed for the singing alone. Great "under the sea".

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

Fun fact, cruise ship workers, on average, have worse living conditions than when I was working/living on a fishing boat.

[@lavernebennet7395]

when I was a kid I went to this museum exhibit about the Titanic and they showed what the rooms looked like for different people on the ship (like the "first class" people then the regular guests and then the actual crew) this reminded me of that

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

I hope that everyone that works on this cruise gets a great room to stay in 😤😤😤

[@fimbles4211]

My chill uncle worked on cruise ships for some time! You have a very small living/sleeping space, and have to deal with the ✨general public ✨ + it's hard work. Edit: they also had a few actual d$aths on board as there's often elderly/retired folk. So that's an overlooked factor

[@Dorkubynn]

A former coworker of mine had spent years working on cruise ships, it's where he met his wife. They both absolutely loved it, and still do work months at a time on cruises while they trade off staying home with their kids. He only ever had fantastic things to say about it.

[@MarieSallaupHalse]

The laws that needs to be followed onboard a ship depends on where the ship is registered. The maritime labour laws are somewhat standardized in most of the world, but some countries have stricter rules. It is quite normal though to have 12 hour days (If you work on deck or bridge, it's often split in 2, so you might work for 6 hours and then have 6 hours off, called 6:6 watch, other systems also exists). both 3 and 6 months are normal length of time onboard without any days off. How much time you get off also varies. I'm Norwegian, so we usually have 1:1 ratio when working on NOR flagged ships (other rules apply to NIS flagged ships, same country, but the latter one gets treated as a foreign ship when in Norwegian waters and also don't have as strict labour laws as NOR ships), so if you work for 3 months, you get 3 months at home. Captains of cruise ships often work like that, they work for a certain amount of months, then they go home, and the other captain comes onboard, working the same amount of months, before the first one comes back.

[@Manelneedsaname]

On the comment of "living at your workplace", I think that, rather than that, you work at your livingplace, wich I think that it's a totally different experience by itself

[@Manelneedsaname]

Also, what do they do if they fire you midcruise? Do they even pay you the trip back?

[@ebenezer-scrooge]

@@Manelneedsaname they keep you in a little box and feed you breadcrumbs and sea water

[@HelloBoots]

​@@Manelneedsanamethey feed you too the dolphins

[@Azaelris]

0:50 The two likely reasons the crew area looks like this is the cost saving. Also guests can very easily distinguish between guest areas and crew areas.

[@Soofgi20]

I think we need an entire evil pinely video of you making egg parachutes

[@LostApotheosis]

I hope you appreciate that I have chosen you as my *exclusive* 9 month cruise coverage.

[@ollie_bell]

I worked on cruise ships for 5 and a half years. The $1350 per month salary is most likely for base level crew members such as housekeeping and wait staff, who typically come from developing countries, and have their salaries subsidised with tips. To most of them, it’s worth putting in the long work hours since they’re earning way more than they’d make in their home countries. I was a performer on board, working substantially less, and making substantially more, and enjoying a lot more benefits than the majority of crew members. Though it’s worth noting that most ship performers come from developed countries so our expenses at home are higher and we’re accustomed to better working conditions. That doesn’t necessarily make it fair though, so I considered myself very lucky. And you’re absolutely right about the lack of labour laws at sea. Cruise ships fly “flags of convenience” meaning they’re registered in countries like Panama or the Bahamas where the labour laws are far less strict. Working on ships is definitely not for everyone, and everyone has their complaints just like any other job, but for the most part we’re happy and enjoy the unique culture onboard. Oh also, all the influencers spilling the “tea” about all the “drama” on the 9 month cruise would have no way of knowing this, but everything that’s happened so far is compleeeeetely normal for any cruise ship.

[@littleprettyfairy]

i worked at this conference center that church and youth group events or weddings or whatever were held as my first job. i stayed there in a small cabin without my own room for two months without a day off working 12-14 hrs per day and even that was A LOT to handle. and i wasnt on water the whole time. i only did it bc i had no where to live for the summer and i didnt have to pay to stay there or have a ride to work lmao

[@Hambonehoven]

Captions were spot on. ❤

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

Trapped with a load of drunk people sounds like a found footage horror waiting to happen

[@accidentaly]

I worked for cruise company but for their land hotels in Alaska. Only made $10 an hour and they took a small portion of our pay for rent and food. I did pocket a lot of money but my sanity was completely drained but the end of my contract. It was very hard to separate work from my days off because your whole life was in one place. We were in such a remote location really all we had was the other staff members and you couldn’t even have alone time because you shared a room with someone (if not multiple people). I knew some people who absolutely loved it but you def have to be a specific type of person to be able to do that sort of work.

[@therealm_jpgg]

i saw a comment about below deck but tbh if you want to look at cruise life from different pov (not with this but other ships) i recommend a doc series called 'the cruise' where it essentially follows a lot of different areas, talks about mishaps like lost luggage/relationships on board/the inner workings of different areas/etc etc.

[@BayleyDathorne]

Worked on a cruise ship for 3 years (until Covid). I worked in entertainment so had a lot more time off in ports than some other departments, good managers would "sneak" you one full day off per cruise when business levels allowed, money was tax-free because you're kind of working "nowhere" based on what the government thinks. The money wasn't AMAZING, but I got to see way more countries than I ever would have in my lifetime otherwise (got to do a full world cruise myself). My room also had a window, got to use guest areas, honestly it was a great time!

[@itsnotrounditsapyramid]

That outro was perfection ❤

[@dance_of_saturn]

There's a saying in my family "The best husband you can get - blind and deaf captain of the cruise ship", now I think it's true

[@fakexgolds]

Working on a cruise seems like hell, I wouldn't even want to go on a cruise more than 2 weeks let alone live on the ship and be working basically all day

[@doktorhabilitowanystanczyk]

im at my uncle's funeral but pinely is more important ty for uploading orr pinely

[@Yummypoison0]

Finally, a young person with priorities

[@lunapond7652]

I interviewed for a cruise Pastry chef job once and I left mid interview because they said that since I was over water they weren't subjected to my city's minimum wage ($15hr) instead they would be paying me $2.50 hr (but I would still be responsible for having to pay NYC city taxes) and work 11 hour days, pay out of pocket for several marine safety licenses and pay by the hour for wifi. No, thank you.

[@franminanicollier9431]

I was in an egg drop competition in high school, and all it cost me was cleaning up a huge splat of red Jell-O because it turns out I'm bad at physics.

[@rachelcook7768]

I love the idea of booking a lavish cruise solely for the purpose of competing in an egg-drop. That would be a great short story about an inventor trying to have an invention taken seriously.

[@tazandalsoalastname]

Pinely singing "under the sea" is my new ringtone 😂

[@brettboswell19]

I’m so tuned in for these updates and I’m excited for the final cumulative report bc I personally could not do it my brain would quite literally break being stuck on a boat for that long so this is fascinating to me lmao Oh also I liked the sailor hat in the thumbnail and thought it might be fun if you got one fr for these updates just for goofs

[@demetriam2408]

Can't believe you got rid of the banger outro, honestly the only reason watched these videos ,😤

[@CatOperated]

6:59 You get to stare down at the plebs below, judging them while silently sip a glass of pappy van winkle… the actual name of a very expensive bourbon

[@AmandaDuncil]

The only way they're not paying rent/utilities is by not having housing on land and honestly the logistics of that sound more exhausting than the low pay is worth.

[@Eggs_hatching]

People talking about how they save on food and rent are not taking into account that they are staying on the cruise for 9 months but they dont live there. They have an empty apartment or home with all their worldly belongings in it and they are still paying rent or a morgage on it.... not to mention theyre still paying for tbeir kids and families that they cant see. Unless theyre single and packed their life into a storage unit for months... in which case they still paying for that.

[@MissCutechan]

I did happen to ask a masseuse on my cruise if they get to go visit ports and stuff and she told me on port days they usually only work a half day and are free to spend that time how they would like either on the boat or at port and I think it's really nice esp since I am under the impression that (at least for her) most of their earnings go back home to their families in their home country

[@funkle_berry]

I also live at my workplace, not my home sadly, but I'm only there for a few weeks at a time I couldn't imagine

[@Hauntolo-G]

I had a manager who used to be a bartender on a cruise ship. He told me that they made a lot more money than regular crew because of the tips and they worked every day of the week like these people. So after working for 6 months or so at a time, he and his other cruise bartending friends would spend the next 3-6 months traveling/partying and blowing all their money from the last cruise. Then they'd do it all over again. Apparently they did this for several years before settling down and finding regular work on land. Also according to him, meth use was a common problem among a lot of the lower paid workers (possibly the bartenders too but he just disclosed the issue with the other crew members). Not super surprising given the constant hours.

[@Mars_doll]

They get to save money on basically everything AND get to see the world. But I could never do it, work every single day.

[@britney65100]

I guess you can never be late for work 😂

[@ninac1954]

I do wonder which country this ship is registered in, surely not the US. Bc the labor standards on the boat are determined by that countries laws. That’s why most cruise companies will register their ships out of Central America/the Caribbean bc they can pay their workers less

[@ebenezer-scrooge]

1300 a month is a robbery but considering you dont have to pay for most things its not too bad

[@hoolyelina]

Love the slime rancher music in the videos!! :3c

[@Guyblow08]

I saw this documentary on working on a cruise ship and the cruise lines work under the flag of countries that have very little labor laws. If you pay attention when you board a cruise ship they are waving the flag of a country you probably never heard of before.

[@toomanyopinions8353]

I can't figure out if people in the comments are being deliberately dense or what. Yes, if these people had normal expenses their pay would be way too low. BUT THEY DON’T HAVE HOUSEHOLD EXPENSES. Most of what YOU are paid goes into bills. These people have what is normally done via bill taken care of. They don’t buy food on their salary, they don’t pay an electricity bill on their salary, they don’t pay a water bill on their salary, they don’t pay rent/mortgage on their salary, and they don't pay for medicine or healthcare on their salary. On some cruise ships employees pay for wifi, but that's pretty much the only monthly expense they have. On most cruise ships employees have none of the normal household expenses. So they are putting most if not all of what they are paid into their savings (minus taxes). So likely around 1k a month into savings on average. That is NOT poor. Why do people just hear a number and their eyes glaze over and they don’t listen to the circumstances around it?

[@stretchmonster]

It feels like half the people in these comments still live with their parents.

[@Alice-ez7ez]

In terms of work hours, the maximum hours you can work on a ship (as per the Maritime Labour Convention) are 14 hours a day and 72 hours in any 7 day period. Idk what hours they would actually do though, as working the maximum is generally avoided.

[@megand12345]

I only live next to my job and i work 7 days a week i couldn't imagine actually living there good god

[@sholem_bond]

Yeah, my understanding is the same laws that mean a lot more is legal in international waters, also mean you can potentially treat workers worse/exploit them more than workers on land, who would be covered by local labor laws. I've heard it can sometimes verge into what could legally be considered human trafficking, and it's also potentially a good employment opportunity for people with criminal records (which isn't inherently a bad thing, since they also need jobs, but it depends what those records contain, and cruises don't always do background checks, etc). Also, cruise ships are sort of notorious for both workers and occasionally passengers just disappearing and never being seen again? In most cases this is probably someone falling overboard, or *maybe* getting stranded at a port because they didn't get back onboard in time, and then getting lost in a foreign country and disappearing, but _we don't know._ Cruise ships are sketchy like that, at least the big ones (also germ-wise, they function as petri dishes on the same level as fan conventions, especially post-COVID).

[@screamspink]

Can’t believe I paid $60,000 for an Evil Pinely video… Worth it.

[@saskialolita]

9:30 uhh except you wouldn’t actually be saving on rent unless you managed to sublet your place while ur gone (or just didn’t have one, I guess..? 🤷‍♀️), and depending where you live, $1350 may not even cover a single month’s rent - which is esp egregious considering the whole ‘no (-maybe 1) days off’ thing. Like damn, with how expensive cruise ship tix are, you’d think they’d at least be able to pay the crew members a living wage 🤨

[@readwrecks]

What was that girl talking about when she said she almost paid off her contract? What contract? Is the cruise ship company charging employees money for something while paying them a pittance?

[@KitOConnell]

I think she was talking about other debts she paid off, like credit cards or whatever, while on a contract to the ship.

[@rachelhyatt5766]

Being on a cruise ship for months sucks but doing that as your job is even worse

[@joywolf83]

Im sooo excited for this video 😂

[@Noaartetc]

That outro was ominous, Evil Pinely 🤨

[@iLi3kCa3k]

damn SugarCrash! goes hard even in the background of some random tiktok video at 8:41

[@TchSktch]

Way bigger? Do you mean main channel pinely upload?

[@TchSktch]

Taking that as a yes, woo!