Bro wasn't kidding when he said he would make everyone on both sides angry at him, looking at the like to dislike ratio.
@PacanatorTheFirst10 ай бұрын
Wow thats 22k likes to 0 dislikes
@angeldust340710 ай бұрын
oml r u dumb???@@PacanatorTheFirst
@koutakasane79510 ай бұрын
@@PacanatorTheFirst it's 11k dislike now (I have return dislike add-on btw)
@kotaar853510 ай бұрын
@@koutakasane795how do you get that
@koutakasane79510 ай бұрын
@@kotaar8535 just search it on google "return youtube dislike add-on" or something like that
@jjfishnana10 ай бұрын
Dude would not pass the Pokémon knowledge test
@GopTun2110 ай бұрын
Came to the to say the same. That bird is def pidgeotto with different colors
@李Annie-v8d10 ай бұрын
I even only play pokemon go once awhile and agree with you
@cielbie825110 ай бұрын
Some of these get obscure though too, like that fire goat is a direct copy of a pokemon fangame pokemon. There's some based off of beta pokemon and some almost direct copies from other franchieses like yokai watch.
@KrhistHawnsome10 ай бұрын
i don't even know pokemon and even i saw related pokemon he didn't notice 💀
@maestro976510 ай бұрын
Yep, foxparks is painfully clearly a flareon copy, it is not just a "fire fox".
@winterveritas10 ай бұрын
Mau is literally just an Egyptian Mau which is an exotic breed of cat famous for its unique personality and appearance. Mau is pretty generic because the gold jewellery just screams ancient Egyptian fashion which makes sense.
@scrubcentral17410 ай бұрын
With umbreon Inspiration?
@thattempleguy671210 ай бұрын
@@scrubcentral174 no? its just designed to look like the egyptian hieroglyph for a cat
@cericat10 ай бұрын
Especially when we have other distinctly Egyptian designs like Anubis (the only one I've personally seen so far but I've barely started) it's establishing a theme.
@scrubcentral17410 ай бұрын
Ok, it was just a guess. @@thattempleguy6712
@skylarc606310 ай бұрын
Umberon inspiration? Pokemon doesn't own 'black cat with gold markings"@@scrubcentral174
The piplup comparison is lame. A penguin is going to look like a penguin. The fact that its blue is the same reason piplup is; they're both water types. Every water Pal is blue, so the water penguin guy is also blue. Guarantee you Nintendo wouldnt have a case with that one, you cant copyright blue penguins
@Mr._Uh9 ай бұрын
entei is a dog, that is a goat
@GLaDOSaperturescience81569 ай бұрын
@ConstellationsArise is it quadrupedal? Is it fire? Does it have chains on its body? Then what is the problem?
@Mr._Uh9 ай бұрын
@@GLaDOSaperturescience8156 You know what, that is a fair point haha.
@capuchinosofia47718 ай бұрын
1:48 is literally pachirisu with leafeon coat
@matthewhartwell41510 ай бұрын
I think Fuack is a typo joke. Like how people type "fuck" but get "duck" its "Fuack" instead of "Quack"
@edwardhealey59110 ай бұрын
It's based on the word thwack because it shoots off at high speeds and often hits things.
@RawrFizzy10 ай бұрын
Exactly that!
@AllanTidgwell10 ай бұрын
Fuack is thwack with Th-fronting. It's a common manner of speech in certain dialects. It's why you hear Michael Caine say things like "Firty Fousand dollars" And yes, there are Asian dialects with this quirk
@Yumi-i10 ай бұрын
it's like "duck you"
@sabre438210 ай бұрын
Honestly I was just thinking pkmn logic myself, since water type and a duck it’s name could be a mixture of the words foam and quack.
@Nyxfros710 ай бұрын
The pun is every time you type "f*ck" on messages it autocorrects to "duck"
@magiefanna983510 ай бұрын
Oh that’s amazing lol
@calebayre9 ай бұрын
@@magiefanna9835 fuck
@calebayre9 ай бұрын
guys its not working fuck fuck fuck
@aroudedinsulance43078 ай бұрын
then when you combine them both it sounds like a word. to fuack something with a large object.
@angel_of_rust10 ай бұрын
dunno if being arbitrarily inconsistent is the best way to make both sides angry
@RainbowKittyy10 ай бұрын
Actually I think that's the best way to get both sides angry. 😂
@greeniehead10 ай бұрын
@@RainbowKittyy It even gets people in the middle angry. I don't give a damn about the whole situation but the wild inconsistency has pissed me off.
@thelostcause156210 ай бұрын
@@greeniehead yeah I only came into the comments to complain about the inconsistency 😅😂
@andrewhansen-mcclellan792310 ай бұрын
Yeah, how tf did Mozzarina (just a cow) end up in the plagiarism column when his explanation for several others in the original category was stuff like “it’s just a sheep” or “it’s just a penguin”??
@airraid126610 ай бұрын
@@andrewhansen-mcclellan7923 Because he decided to throw in other, completely different series in for a few of the choices. Otherwise it would be in Original, despite how bland Mozzarina, despite the fun name, is.
@captaindanger1310 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the queen that died recently's name is elizabeth so we don't need history knowledge to understand the elizabee pun
@townfuneral45649 ай бұрын
I think most people know who queen Elizabeth was lmao
@maxitrillion40389 ай бұрын
Congrats, that’s the joke
@popkorn9045 ай бұрын
@@captaindanger13 Are you restarted?
@aliwildman280310 ай бұрын
the fact that you combined 2 newer gen pokemon for bristla when it's literally bellossom's alt edgy older sister is what killed me.
@diamondmemer975410 ай бұрын
Didn't remind me of bellossom that much honestly
@benjamin365810 ай бұрын
Looks more like the hornier sister
@nope-z5y10 ай бұрын
Must have sprained something with THAT stretch, eh?
@inferno319710 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same damn thing
@exLightningg10 ай бұрын
Pokemon didn’t create the idea of a Gold coin + Cat it’s based on the Japaneese beckoning cat also known as Money cat, lucky cat, welcoming cat, happy cat (dude has a lot of names).
@LokiOfDragons10 ай бұрын
Also that cat is clearly based on the cat from Egyptian mythology, iirc the name is Bast?
@UnderADarkRock10 ай бұрын
@@LokiOfDragons You are correct. My fave Egyptian goddess
@rageindragon10 ай бұрын
China uses the cat with coin as well I like the lucky cat that's why I like Meowths design and palworlds design lol
@Wooloo_83110 ай бұрын
Yea? That's why he put it in not a rip off?
@RiveroftheWither10 ай бұрын
@@LokiOfDragonsit's based on a pokemon beta design...
@star-fc3ir10 ай бұрын
Idk he seems to be super inconsistent about his judging. Like the penguin is just a penguin but the manta ray is a ripoff?
@apfelrocker557410 ай бұрын
i agree but its fun to watch
@Frindazer10 ай бұрын
I mean, the only penguin pokemon i can think of are the Piplup line, Eiscue (much closer to the irl inspiration), and Delibird- Eiscue I could argue, but it's not close enough due to it's signature Ice-head gimmick. Mantine though, as a specifically *flying* manta ray? Same antenna-like things on it's head? Mix some Togekiss in there with the more rounded "wings", lil round feet, and lighter colour pallet- you got that Pal.
@skylarc606310 ай бұрын
And how fuack is just a duck/platapus so its okay, but the cow, a literal cow...is lawsuit tier? Same with cremis, vixy, and nox. He says vixy is okay because "its just a fox design", but claims cremis, which is just a smaller different colored vixy, is 100% lawsuit. Same with nox, which is one of his worst comparisoins "It looks like eevee if it had a ghost evolution", sorry, but you cant say "your honor, if we did make a ghost form of this character, it might look like nox, so its our design!"
@capuchinosofia47718 ай бұрын
Yeah i agree. I also think he found it tyring after a while, because i liked the first part of the vid
@jackbaggaley122810 ай бұрын
the mention of elizabee needing historical knowledge of elizabeth I to get the reference is crazy considering Queen Elizabeth II died less than 2 years ago...
@TimeBucks10 ай бұрын
Palworld has done the impossible
@lunashenck10 ай бұрын
Nah, plagiarism has been done before And if youre talking about the gameplay its just ark and conan exiles
@MdsweetSweet-ox6jp10 ай бұрын
Good
@demetriss_d272610 ай бұрын
dont forget that pokemon plagiarized dragon quest. @@lunashenck
@lunashenck10 ай бұрын
@@demetriss_d2726 They literally didnt but alright. Nintendo does a lot of shitty stuff but plagiarism is not one of them
@bellojamiu881410 ай бұрын
👍
@owenkanaal345710 ай бұрын
This humor in this video really reminds me of froschjuliane haha
@leov440410 ай бұрын
I think he was joking?
@manserizawa232710 ай бұрын
Cows belong to Pokemon. Didn't you know?
@jaketaylor390110 ай бұрын
No it’s true, my local dairy farm received a cease and desist from game freak
@Howabouthere10 ай бұрын
Pokémon created cows, don't you know
@jamaki473610 ай бұрын
yeah man everyone knows that that’s why every milk carton and cheese pack has the gamefreak written on it
@lawden21010 ай бұрын
Now that i think of it, Meowth and Mau are 2 distinct ideas. Meowth is based on japanese Maneki neko, while Mau is meant to be a sort of "Egyptian cat"
@nicz769410 ай бұрын
Exactly, "Egyptian Mau" is actually a cat race which is the race "Mau" is based on. There is nothing in common between Meowth and Mau except both beeing just cats
@MachuThePichu10 ай бұрын
@@nicz7694 there is also the "money/coin and gold" aspect but that pal seems to be based on how ancient egyptians worshipped cats show in this case by the cat being covered in egyptian looking gold jewelry vs the chinese/japanese(idk the exact origins) lucky cat statues(that hold a coin) meowth is based on so they are both "cats that have to do with money" but both with wildly different historical/cultural origins
@Gencinnamon24510 ай бұрын
@@MachuThePichuPlus, there is a Pal that is *literally* called Anubis
@maddieee114210 ай бұрын
Mau looks like umbreon more than anything
@bobthegoat76010 ай бұрын
To me it just seems all these people are forcing comparisons between pokemon and pals, 99.9% of them look nothing alike, bro saw a tail that resembles evee and said "yeah its just eevee". Most of the "potential lawsuit" pals have almost nothing to do with the pokemon they're compared to. An example is at the timestamp 14:00 , I can see the fin, but how does that prove anything? the results are not even remotely close to the actual final product, so why bother?
@DREADFUL55510 ай бұрын
The Egyptian bird at 34:53 I would love to see side by side with Corviknight. I’m fairly certain the chest scruff and drumsticks down to talons are identical. There’s others that came to mind that most of the other comments have covered that you missed or didn’t notice, but I wanted to point out this one because it was completed glossed over as original, when it is not, yet very well hidden.
@jonathangoodwin560910 ай бұрын
Yup, it's identical.
@corgano60689 ай бұрын
Is that identical as in _exactly copied,_ or identical in that _they are both birds of prey,_ big hawk things, which have that exact body shape. Reminder that if I base a design off a crow and you base your design off a crow, and we end up with similar designs, neither of us copied each other - we BOTH copied a crow, which is a thing you CANT own the design to.
@Marnige8 ай бұрын
@@corgano6068 it's just a reskin
@chrisatlas450310 ай бұрын
Interesting how this dude has low pokemon knowledge but was also unfairly critical in some places
@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC10 ай бұрын
Did we even watch the same vid my guy?
@CDragonEdits-22a10 ай бұрын
Agreed. The one he compared to Darkai was REACHING
@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC10 ай бұрын
@@CDragonEdits-22ano man, you’re reaching, I think his opinion was fair and valid, at least he’s not baby raging about the topic like many of these comments
@CDragonEdits-22a10 ай бұрын
@@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC I mean, I can kind of see how you see Darkrai in that Pal, but there plenty of other edgy cartoon-ish characters/creatures that have that same color palette and aesthetic. The white wisp on the top, yeah that’s a little suspicious, but I’d say that’s more akin to Mega Absol than Darkrai. However, I’d say the only thing they’re really “copying” in that pal is the head. The rest of it does not look like Darkrai in the slightest
@dissidius1310 ай бұрын
@@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC bruh this channel really be using alt accounts just to defend his shitty video
@mactassio2110 ай бұрын
The fire horse is just a Kirin. A lot of the monsters you placed on suspicious are from japanese mythology and folclore which Pokemon draws inspiration too as well which is also public domain
@hmkoh10 ай бұрын
yeah he cannot see the similarity of Kirin and the other is flareon, and the ice penguin - piplup
@lokemis10 ай бұрын
Also, the comparison with meowth is an enormous stretch. He is a cheshire cat
@Gfp199510 ай бұрын
@@lokemisi don't think the inspiration is the problem
@lokemis10 ай бұрын
@@Gfp1995 Then it's what? The enormous stretches the guy made throughout the video? Only the one compared to Eevee is correct. The guy literally put the cow that we see in any ranch game as a copy of Pokemon
@marioauditore285910 ай бұрын
He literally said a Manta Ray is a Pokémon copy, i guess he wasn't that good on Biology classes so he don't know it's a real animal 😂
@bmrphilou794110 ай бұрын
You can tell he got tired of putting the effort of researching designs later down the line and really kills the tier list completely from his own demotivation
@midas148910 ай бұрын
This... the last ones had a duo that just looked like a Ceruledge with different colors and he put it as an "original" but the cow was lawsuitable?
@SanativeSparrow10 ай бұрын
@@midas1489 THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY! Ceruledge 100% for those 2! And the Corvesquire 3 before? The Suicune after?! Bruh
@SmokyAH10 ай бұрын
it’s just a silly little video nothing too serious
@pimpdaddyffm10 ай бұрын
@@SanativeSparrow dont forget the zapdos. its actually the birb from sv idk the english name rn
@atcera871410 ай бұрын
What research? He called Grintale a copy of Galarion Meowth.........he hasn't even seen Alice in Wonderland before, if he did research then that means I have 5 Ph.Ds
@elizabethhelizacoptersilko776710 ай бұрын
1:58 Oh man, remember AcornDuck (that fan-speculation for what Oshawott's silhouette could be)?That's what Fuack reminds me of! 4:07 Reminds me of Ditto and Seedot. 34:12 "My Neighbor Electabuzz" literally has Gengar's face 35:29 Not just Silvally's crest, but the ring around its abdomen looks very Arceus-inspired. 35:43 Ceruledge/Armarouge/Palkia Origin Forme fusions 36:10 That thing literally has Suicune's face shape and Articuno's head crest.
@silverminty86110 ай бұрын
the one you said ab suicunes face and articunos head crest was EXACTLY what I thought, legit 1 to 1 replica
@necridos10 ай бұрын
That Celeray and Mantine comparison is not really fair. They're literally both just Manta's. Those are what manta rays look like. They aren't exactly ripping anything off.
@nbassasin809210 ай бұрын
yeah, Ive been saying, any pal that is just - an already existing animal, that just so happens to also have a Pokemon designed in similair way is not really a ripoff, albeit lazy from both pokemon and palworlds side
@capvux10 ай бұрын
Also mau its not even based on same thing japanese lucky cat and egyptian cat arent same
@srahbby10 ай бұрын
also flying manta ray are a fairly common fantasy trope in general.
@lePoMo10 ай бұрын
Agreed, the best way to look at it os how many ways there are to color and theme pals. Making a sea dragon blue is an obvious choice. Some of the electric ones are also too high. Showing electricity as a flash is obvious, a flash is yellow, and warning signs usually are black and yellow. On the other hand i would have put way more from the original idea tier to the inspired by tier. Because many don't pass the above test.
@PlaguedByEarth10 ай бұрын
Animals are suing Pokemon for copyright infringement
@sethobester933110 ай бұрын
With the sheer amount of Pokémon that exist it would be interesting to see a challenge where artists try to design their own creatures and then see how many of them look like a ripoff of a Pokémon.
@silverwinter159710 ай бұрын
I think there are many "challenges" similar to that, where KZbinrs based around Pokémon invite other people (who don't know much about Pokémon) and show them either a real Pokémon or a Fan Made one and they have to guess if it's a real Pokémon or not.
@craiz666810 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking. If you use a „similar“ artstyle for your creatures it will be inevitable to have some looking similar to the 1025 Pokémon there are. Though a few really looked TOO similar
@xlOLinchenOlx10 ай бұрын
i thought the same. Especially if you put on the elemental theme in addition. With over 1000 Pokémon and a similar art style its bound to have some overlaps. Some are really too similar, but I don‘t agree fully with the tier list in that regard. Some are imo just common associations. like the grinning cat face. the yellow eyes are also similar from the pokemon to the grinning cat in the disney alice in wonderland movie and using triangles for teeth… well that‘s not uncommon as well. btw: i never played palworld only pokemon up until sword/shield. but lost interest in the games even before that generation.
@Krycifer10 ай бұрын
There are tons of fan games that have done that for decades now! You can find tons of fake Mon on KZbin, art sites, etc
@lucasyoung859010 ай бұрын
Fuack is quaxly
@SillyRobot10 ай бұрын
Btw, the little weavile tooth is just a thing that happens in Japanese media a lot, not necessarily just that Pokémon
@caseydewitt623610 ай бұрын
Same with the glowing eyes and sawtooth cat face motif.
@-VoDkAsVengeance-10 ай бұрын
Yes, but it literally has the SAME face with the SMALLEST changes ever. Little eyelashes and everything.
@TheLongDon10 ай бұрын
@@-VoDkAsVengeance- That is how fair use works lmao
@ChronoBaw10 ай бұрын
@@caseydewitt6236 chessire cat inspired... Kind of a retarded thing to miss, the big cat Pal is outright just a chessire cat...
@VisonsofFalseTruths10 ай бұрын
@@TheLongDon crazy thing is Japan has no fair use laws. Which means that even WITHOUT fair use, Nintendo knows they don’t have a case. All this shit of “Nintendo should sue!” is pointless. We’re talking about a company so aggressively litigious they sued THEMSELVES. If they could have sued, they would have sued when the first ad dropped. They didn’t. Because they can’t. At least not without losing.
@Controllerhead10 ай бұрын
Gumoss is Ditto with a freaking hat come on bro. My man did not get any of the Whose That Pokemon commercial breaks right 😂
@MrDeerbomb10 ай бұрын
The word you're looking for is seedot
@fionazelmann75419 ай бұрын
you can't claim every globby looking thing is a rip off of some other globby looking thing. you might as well be saying ditto is the same thing as grimer. or that gumoss is a grimer rip off. you could just as easily say that gumoss is a pacman ghost. or that ditto is a pacman ghost ripoff.
@Controllerhead9 ай бұрын
@@fionazelmann7541 eyes match. goopiness matches. arm and foot proportion matches up. it's gumoss with a hat bro (or belch)
@fionazelmann75419 ай бұрын
@@Controllerheadclaiming matching eyes is ridiculous when we're talking about dots. just dots for eyes. this also goes for complaints about any generic anime eye being the same as another generic anime eye. you're going to have to explain how the eye is unique to a specific character before claiming that it's being ripped off. so do explain how the eyes of gumoss are unique. you might as well be claiming slime rancher ripped off of pokemon too.
@Controllerhead9 ай бұрын
@@fionazelmann7541ok we disagree to me its clearly ditto
@ericdailey560710 ай бұрын
I didn’t think I would say both “what that’s totally unique” and “what that literally one for one a pokemon” in the same tier list
@RipMeGaming10 ай бұрын
Too bad they ripped a lot of characters from Digimon so they should legally not be able to
@mvb0210 ай бұрын
@@RipMeGaming pokemon was before digimon 💀
@kahmoriittsoro926210 ай бұрын
@@mvb02 Pokemon ripped ALOT of enemies from Dragon Quest to make into Pokemon. Some of them.....insanely blatant.
@Delimon00710 ай бұрын
@@kahmoriittsoro9262 This is not true and I'm tired of this lie being spread around. Same idea? Sure. Same designs? Hell no.
@RipMeGaming10 ай бұрын
@@mvb02 I think some places it did Idk it's all mixed with who thinks came out where and when you search it, it isn't specific what year in the first origin it originated. Have you heard of Dragon Quest? That was definitely before those 2
@boxofmadness251110 ай бұрын
any pals whose description is " X animal + Y element" shouldnt even be questioned, like, dude, its the most basic form of creature design, not to mention the straight up normal animals who have a colour palette that matches their type
@irmiwolf10 ай бұрын
what about all those pals that are clearly X Pokemon mixed with Y Pokemon? Like almost all Pals could be the result of a pokemon fusion.
@m0nkEz10 ай бұрын
@@irmiwolf I mean when there's literally a thousand pokemon you can only stray so far from designs that have already been done while still making them look like animals.
@takiyeet694610 ай бұрын
@@irmiwolf Call me crazy but I think blending designs together produces something more original than "Eevee with a fox head."
@lanceambourn230410 ай бұрын
You cannot copyright or patent "physical domain" there is no case here. @@irmiwolf
@TTVMaldrix10 ай бұрын
@@takiyeet6946 call me crazy but eevee is a generic fox with fluff
@zidaryn9 ай бұрын
I feel like more of your "originals" should be in "same idea." Fun list and good breakdown. Thanks for doing it.
@andrewodinson372610 ай бұрын
"What kind of bird is Staraptor?" Hmm, idk. Maybe a raptor?
@KatArmyLeedur-w-10 ай бұрын
I'm legit dying from this one💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
@wackamasta10 ай бұрын
ok which raptor smartypants?
@frostyfinkrat10 ай бұрын
not *exactly*. staraptor and it's pre-evolution starly are based on white-cheeked starlings, as the first half of their names suggest. staraptor is a mix of a starling and an unspecified bird of prey, most resembling a hawk or falcon. "raptor" is a blanket term for many distinct bird of prey species.
@ToraVieh10 ай бұрын
@@frostyfinkrat TIL Staraptor evolves from Staryu
@frostyfinkrat10 ай бұрын
@@ToraVieh ACKK why are their names so similar 😭
@vaulthunterfromterra405310 ай бұрын
The super fluffy Eevee is basically what a Normal Type Eeveelusion should look like.
@vaulthunterfromterra405310 ай бұрын
“Whatever kind of bird Staraptor is” Um….a, Raptor
@EYoshiGamr10 ай бұрын
When I first saw Cremis I literally screamed, "CLOUD EEVEE!" XD
@kacpermalina30810 ай бұрын
peoples are like cremis going to eevee and say:"hey bro. Let's be pals." and i like it.
@luminesicore24610 ай бұрын
or flying
@Yonnireed010110 ай бұрын
It’s gigatamax eevee
@amdobrantal177410 ай бұрын
Hm... I feel many of these choices were made on the fly and he stuck to them. A lot feel like they're not in the right tier to me.
@derptime900010 ай бұрын
Agreed, some of these were quite a reach to even compare. Like the 2 squids don't look alike. It's just two cute lil guys. Or even Grintale. It's GrinTALE. This was literally based off the the Cheshire Cat, with the color, the eyes, and the smile. To say they took that from pokemon is ridiculous, if anything pokemon took it from wonderland lol. There's sooooo many pals that were taken from mythology too, the names and characteristics describe that. yet he's here still trying to compare it and put it into sus tiers. I think there's a lot of confusion from people who don't really know the true origins of a lot of designs and ideas they're crying about and claim it's a pokemon ripoff, when pokemon themselves also ripped it off from something else half the time XD Don't get me wrong, there ARE some very clear ones that looks super inspired and "copied" from pokemon, but really a lot of these on the list were a bit of a reach.
@princewhiff10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I felt like I was going insane watching this. One minute he notices visual motifs and the next he passes them off as generic. Then at 14:00 odd he puts the purple lizard in the suspicious category because it reminds him of the 'inner city' vibes of two pokemon that aren't reptiles. Man's free associating.
@benjaminwahl805910 ай бұрын
The guy is forgetting that animal+element will make a similar design. Like grass+ monkey= grass monkey.
@DemePoole10 ай бұрын
Then make your own tier list. Problem solved.
@derptime900010 ай бұрын
@@princewhiff Dude I thought the exact same thing when he got to that purple lizard. You can't put it in the sus tier when they just share a "vibe". They look nothing alike, not the same species or anything. How do you plagiarize a vibe? Don't get me wrong theres a lot of pals/pokemon that DO share a LOT of similarities. And I do agree with a fair amount of these. But lots of these are just reach, grasping at straws that aren't even there. Like Pyrin is Rapidash? Why? Cause they're both fire horses? Pyrin is literally a Kirin(qilin for chinese) from Japanese mythology which is known as a dragon/unicorn/deer hybrid thing that's covered in flames. Plus the name I mean c'mon, Pyr (fire), Pyrin, Kirin. Like you can't get much closer. And if you look up a Kirin it's almost exact. This is 1000% a copy of mythology, not a rapidash lol. So unless pokemon owns rights to asian mythologies, they're also ripping it off with their rapidash. Oh and that candy one too, like what? Wooliepop is a cotton candy dog. Alcreamie is not a dog... and it's whipped cream. You can't compare these two lol. Also, if you're going to say that Ribunny is Sylveon because of the ribbons regardless of their species, then using this videos logic I would argue that Lifmunk is basically Leafeon regardless of species. I agree that it's frustrating to see him notice certain similarities then like completely ignore others, or try to claim/create others that just aren't there. Also I've learned that you apparently can't have any cute fox looking thing without claiming it to be eevee lol.
@AshJ0nes10 ай бұрын
The goodra you put in OC looks like it has bayleefs face
@saged151310 ай бұрын
Pyrin is a kirin and the money based cats are just both maneki-neko, common Japanese folklore creatures
@VisonsofFalseTruths10 ай бұрын
That’s basically all pokemon. It’s either Japanese yokai or it’s just animal+magic
@TheOriginalFlowerdough10 ай бұрын
"it's been around for 5000 years so I'm pretty sure it's in public domain at this point" hit the nail on the head
@Prime_Rabbit10 ай бұрын
See, everyone says kilimari copies inkay and tbh, i dont see it. They are both a small squid. Look up vampire squid and you'll see its honestly more closely designed after that then the pokemon
@rabbyd54210 ай бұрын
To me it looks like Bloober from Super Mario
@Homiloko210 ай бұрын
This. So many 'copies' from this list are actually just based off of the same or similar animals or mythological creatures and legends. These pokemon fans would have more people on their side if they were actually unbiased in their analysis.
@rabbyd54210 ай бұрын
@@Homiloko2 Exactly. Let's just throw away all the creatures from Shin Megami Tensei while we're at it too.
@ACWings_U8T10 ай бұрын
I mean, if I'm being honest - I don't even see the Evee comparison. The Palworld one looks like a bunny - not a fox.
@sorrowfulrose308210 ай бұрын
its not even a squid it more resembles a dumbo octopus with espurrs eyes at most
@samuraizerro10 ай бұрын
I actually really like the design of Pyrin as, from what I can tell, is based on 2 things: 1. The mythological beast Kirin. Its commonly depicted in East Asian culture and has a resemblance towards deer/horses. I would assume this is the "-in" in Pyrin. 2. Lu Bu/Red Hare. Pyrin's two long strands on the head seem to be an homage to the Chinese warrior Lu Bu from the Warring Kingdoms era, as he is commonly depicted with those same feathers/hairs protruding from his helmet. His iconic mount was a horse named Red Hare. Even Pyrin's paldeck entry lists the reference.
@Openreality9 ай бұрын
Yeah none of them look anything like Pokemon and Nintendo and Co would lose any lawsuit here. Pokemon is dead and Scarlet and Violet is roasting its mutilated corpse. There is absolutely nothing in here that would make me think they were directly assets stolen from Pokemon all the people mad at palworld are probably jelly nostolgia blind people who won't grow up and mine in from Pokemon and are in there mid 30s or early 40s. Even my kids weren't really into Pokemon games as the toxic fanbase is.
@KanuckStreams10 ай бұрын
"And if we're gonna start calling having a circle for a body plagiarism...I am in *trouble* " Oh my god I I laughed HARD.
@pinheadlarry250610 ай бұрын
same lmaooo
@deuteronomy274910 ай бұрын
bro made the "suspiciously familiar" tier and described many of them as being suspiciously familiar and then put them in the oc tier for several entries and my autism is flaring up so bad Edit: it's giving "it goes in the square hole"
@michaelwoller645010 ай бұрын
Bro put a grass goat in “oc” because Pokémon did grass goat first, but then put the lava goat in original because “Pokémon don’t own elemental goats” lol
@zettovii136710 ай бұрын
He also put a literal cow with an emoji cat face on lawsuit tier, because it looks too much like a cow, to another cartoon creature where the only thing they got in common is that they are both clearly inspired from cows. And then only minutes later proceeded to put a noose creature that has exact same type of eyes and body as a pokemon bell creature, - as "original", because the body and face are apparently generic enough to not count as a ripoff.... I cant even.... xD
@urahi83010 ай бұрын
@@zettovii1367 that's what people who weren't dropped on the head as a toddler would call "a joke"
@SamiAnimates10 ай бұрын
@@zettovii1367 are you dumb? its obviously a joke 😒
@obamascooch10 ай бұрын
The pegasus thing at the end had a super similar face to Suicune that he didn’t seem to notice at all
@sophomorekid10 ай бұрын
Who, uh, did you think the queen was during the majority of our lifetimes?
@elliotcurren156510 ай бұрын
LMAO
@titusdaniel10 ай бұрын
Yeah I had to scratch my head at that one too. "Requires knowledge of old monarchs" as if remembering two years ago is a deep dive historically.
@M.Greenwalt10 ай бұрын
How many queen names have there been? Not many.
@non-existentasukamain76610 ай бұрын
I feel like that joke was supposed to be sarcasm I hope
@dinoprimi391410 ай бұрын
I also thought that was stupid, but you can’t expected to much from the American education system, he might not actually know who the Queen was.
@eailurik10 ай бұрын
Can you do the same kind of video, but with Pokemon and Dragon Quest?
@itsLantik9 ай бұрын
They don't really look similar to be completely honest. The design inspirations are clearly similar but the actual art style is way different. It's sort of opposite from Palworld, who uses different design inspirations for the most part (ignoring Anubis and a few others) but uses a very similar art style as Pokemon and straight up just copies little bits and bobs from different mons, like Azurrobe and Primarina.
@ChairyCrasher10 ай бұрын
The cow is not lawsuit tier
@mightypancake221110 ай бұрын
Truthfully. Lots of the pals feel familiar, yet are not. Also unless it is added. The pals do not evolve at least not yet... and unknown if this will be added or not. That said... I will say that there are a lot of pals that are familiar, Yet are removed from the pokemon franchise enough that Game freak/nintendo can't hit them for it. At least not easily. Also lots of the ones saying that some mon are the same or same enough nintendo could sue happen to be salty game devs that are parts of failing game corporations. though Not all of them are. Some could be nintendo pokemon stands.
@wumpusrat10 ай бұрын
@@mightypancake2211 There's an "evolution" mechanic in Palworld, but it doesn't change how the pal looks. It just increases their stats/skills by condensing a bunch of other pals of the same type. And honestly, putting the cow in "lawsuit tier?" Nobody owns the copyright for "cow". That one was ridiculous.
@Boykeeplays10 ай бұрын
I think the cow one was a joke
@jazzyjswift10 ай бұрын
@@wumpusrat Calling what is effectively a gacha star rank system "evolution" is really stretching it dude. "Oh, your 0 star Cattiva can become a 1 star Cattiva if you get 4 more cattiva and sacrifice them to rank it up. Now you gotta get 16 for a 2 star. Now you gotta get 32 for a 3 star! 64 cattiva for a 4 star!" That's not evolution, that's a gacha game's attempt to make pulling dupes worthwhile, but placed into a game that doesn't use predatory marketing to try to get you to spend wild amounts of money to get max characters.
@ShadowNinjaMaster9310 ай бұрын
The cow was very clearly a joke.
@Jupiter-Jazz10 ай бұрын
you put a fire fox in “just an animal” tier but proceeded to imply a tree dwelling primate that is covered in leaves from said trees is copied from pansage when pansage isn’t even the first one to do that
@zurub10 ай бұрын
what about the flying manta ray which was done many years before pokemon even existed, by the game series which literally invented the genre of having a large amount of collectable monsters
@christunstel695410 ай бұрын
It's literally mega delphox a fan designed piece of art straight up lawsuit
@thirteenfury10 ай бұрын
I saw Grookey plus Pansage personally. Although I wouldn't put it any higher than the "suspiciously familiar" tier.
@jimberry531810 ай бұрын
Pokemon isn't even the first capture game so I don't get saying anyone "copied Pokemon " Pokemon copied digital devil stories then.
@SmashPhoenixX10 ай бұрын
bro its really not subtle but u can keep glazing if u want
@laughingfox896710 ай бұрын
Excuse me? Penking? King deedeedee? No one else sees the resemblance between him, and that Kirby villian?
@acatcheckingitstemperature3949 ай бұрын
What resemblance lol, both of them are kings and both are penguins? Other than that, they physically look different
@BAoxymoron9 ай бұрын
@@acatcheckingitstemperature394 I get where you're coming from on the model itself, but the animations with the pick axe vs hammer or his charge definitely have me huge King Deedeedee vibes.
@RosefMudson14149 ай бұрын
People who relate them to nintendo characters only seem to be people who have not played many japanese and or korean games
@Archflip10 ай бұрын
I agree with the majority of these tier rankings, but honestly, I feel like there ought to be a split for a tier of "you can't copyright something so generic". And also, a small category of "Wait no, this is a digimon instead." Doing detailed analysis of each pal like this individually makes me realize how many subconscious color schemes I've absorbed over the years and small design elements.
@tinne2610 ай бұрын
I had the exact same thoughts of "too generic to be copyrightable" and "digimon class". I'd have also liked a category for "actually good designs", there are like 5 of those that would be nice to highlight as something positive.
@tristanyou10 ай бұрын
you mean a "literally just an animal" tier rank?
@marinelchavhez726910 ай бұрын
Ome of them is like sonic character as well
@Furebel10 ай бұрын
I don't think a single thing in this video is real stuff, it's more like a parody of all those twitter people who compare two different designs of a cartoon cat and say it's carbon copy.
@StopLookListenG10 ай бұрын
@@marinelchavhez7269 i already know youre talking about verdash 😂
@Watching290910 ай бұрын
Bro was on about the tree sap one and said goomy when imo it looks more like ditto.
@Carols98910 ай бұрын
ditto with a hat
@Kabslantivity200010 ай бұрын
Same bruh
@elenazanna547510 ай бұрын
I thought "smol quagsire/clodsire" but yes
@jerry_blueberry6 ай бұрын
I was losing it when he didn't say ditto, I'm not even a big pokemon fan but I mean cmon dude 😭
@opstellar10 ай бұрын
a ton of Pokémon were based on Yōkai (Japanese demon folklore) and are thus free to copy in concept as long as their appearance is different enough.
@EntropydemicАй бұрын
You want to hear something funny? Pocketpair made another game called Craftopia that has animal capture in it, but the animals are just normal animals, like cows, giraffe, elephant, aligators, etc. I feel likemaking any cartoon version of an animal is a risk, because someone somewhere else makes an animal cartooney then you have the risk of being accused of plagiarism.
@aquatrez10 ай бұрын
The silliest part of all this is that many of the "too close for comfort" designs could've been further differentiated by just not copying the color scheme on top of similar design elements/inspiration.
@beardyface797710 ай бұрын
A lot of these are also more of a reskinned different pokemon using animations. Like the calamari isnt a squid pokemon clone but a drifloon clone
@kara-mari990910 ай бұрын
legit a good handful of these would be original enough if they just changed the color schemes, i think they designed it like that with purpose to farm the inevitable controversy the same way andy and leyley put in incest so the outrage would spread the word
@vast946710 ай бұрын
too close for comfort still isn’t “the same” so they really had no obligation to change anything further
@Mephitinae10 ай бұрын
The question is, why did the devs not bother doing just that? The AI theory seems more convincing to me after watching this. It's like they trained ai by inserting all the official pokemon designs. Easy for the artists to pick the best mashups it then created, and use them as "inspiration".
@toukoenriaze987010 ай бұрын
To be fair this isn't a fully released game ... So if Nintendo came and called it copywrite material all they would have to do is make those changes to be more distinct
@Mcs2239810 ай бұрын
Pyrin is actually based off of a Chinese mythological creature, called a Kirin it’s pretty much a lightning horse, but they use the prefix py as In pyro cause it’s pretty much a fire version if you look up a picture of how they’re described and how they’re drawn, it’s practically one-to-one no copyright
@Chippaization10 ай бұрын
HEY Kirin is from MH....time for capcom to SUE as well.(this is a joke btw)
@cheesecrew10 ай бұрын
I'd argue that Univolt is also a play on this creature + unicorns rather than being a Zebra
@Mcs2239810 ай бұрын
@@Chippaization wouldn’t put it past them with rise being such a cash grab
@Mcs2239810 ай бұрын
@@cheesecrew well it’s not the whole point was the name being a pun on that so you’re wrong it’s just an electric zebra. Don’t try to step up to me bro just take your L.
@nidusxvii322410 ай бұрын
@@Mcs22398No, they're right. Univolt really is just an electric unicorn.
@ccheart857410 ай бұрын
Rayhound is based on Greyhounds. Which are the fastest dogs there are. They literally live to race and can get depression if they aren't allowed to. Fast things are often associated with electricity. That one belongs in the Same Idea tier at best.
@grayquannichols963610 ай бұрын
It does clearly have Lucarios face though
@missloopy10 ай бұрын
they are bred to race they dont need to
@Jurjen_Hettinga10 ай бұрын
Except for the fact that the face is literally shiny lucario but with the eyes above the black
@mekrobotic904610 ай бұрын
Ba it’s bolt
@rohanwilson568610 ай бұрын
@@grayquannichols9636 Soo... A dog💀
@Macktube2 ай бұрын
The title and thumbnail of this video combine is hilarious, I had to click it😂
@branm545910 ай бұрын
Y’know I just realized that the argument is slightly harder to prove if they gave them more dynamic poses and a more distinct shader. Slightly more details on the fur
@thefoxmoonlight10 ай бұрын
Yea, cept this cartooney, smooth no texture look is what alot of people and kids like. Hence alot of roblox game producers also only do the flat texture.
@EbonMaster10 ай бұрын
Nah, it being cartoony with the dark tone of slavery and murder is the point of the game lol
@dreamsoffury836910 ай бұрын
Calling you out here ...not even done with the vid the bunny whos name i cant remember was in the trailer before ANYONE knew about tinkaton
@yveltalsea10 ай бұрын
I feel like a good half of the *original tier are just copies of pokemon that you aren't personally familiar with lol..
@nickwijkstra377410 ай бұрын
Fr same with the samurai bird at the end of the video its recoulered corviknight same model
@youngbuck4910 ай бұрын
true that crow at 14:20 is just Murkrow with plague mask
@zozocecp10 ай бұрын
@@youngbuck49 Honestly though, if that was in anything other than a pokemon-like game, you probably wouldn’t make that correlation whatsoever
@madmikeJan9110 ай бұрын
Yeah I noticed Cattiva's model looks very similar to Pancham's model, the eyes gave it away for me.
@NapoleonicGeese10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and the teacup elephant thing is quite similar looking to Munna
@LookAtThatOre9 ай бұрын
Pokemon fans fans when a pal looks like an IRL animal (OMG COPYRIGHT COPYRIGHT COPYRIGHT BAD GAME STEALIJG SUEEEEEEE" like holy crap yall chilllll. There are only so many models you can create based off of animals.
@StrikerTheHedgefox10 ай бұрын
I think "Fuack" is an onomatopoeia for an impact. Like "Thwack". The pal deck entry for them seems to indicate they like to body surf at high velocities, and the impacts from such can be lethal.
@NicholasThorntonOfficial10 ай бұрын
you're wrong - they wanted to call it "Fuck" but added an "a" in it
@DengekiVR10 ай бұрын
@NicholasThorntonOfficial Thats what I call it 😂
@Hxxdxn10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's suppose to be a play on Fox and Quack because of the ears...
@cal536510 ай бұрын
he's the one and only fuck duck
@bendover962010 ай бұрын
I think this opinion is Fuack-ing wrong.
@nathanabel816910 ай бұрын
Palworld has done the impossible, it got people to accuse pokemon of being original.
@Anu_was_here10 ай бұрын
I wish they also do the same with games BEFORE pokemon. Many hard truths will be discovered.
@kara-mari990910 ай бұрын
@@Anu_was_here dw theyre already making their way to hollow knight and really sticking it to those other stupid triple A companies
@Anu_was_here10 ай бұрын
@@kara-mari9909 that’s great. Sick of Triple A corporates thinks they are completely original and everyone is copying them.. since they are famous (due to marketing budget ) or they think could get off the hook since their teems got heavily “inspired” by small previous artists/games who can’t afford similar legal costs.
@teamofone121910 ай бұрын
It's because their fanbase is just full of kids who don't know better. They are the original fortnite kids.
@netweed0910 ай бұрын
@@kara-mari9909 Jeez. Someone's _really_ butthurt and needs a lift in life, lol. Plus, you're just talking nonsense. ''Hollow Knight!1'' 🤓🥴
@MikeGarden10 ай бұрын
Suzaku is in both Japanese and Chinese mythology and can be seen drawn similarly if you just google Suzaku bird. Bro didn't do a lot of research if he "couldn't find anyone online talking about it."
@saber569410 ай бұрын
Something to remember that pokemon only holds copyright on the exact designs of their pokemon
@jonathangoodwin560910 ай бұрын
So they could just take a pokemon, put a single new spot on its body, and it would be legally okay?
@saber569410 ай бұрын
@jonathangoodwin5609 no but they could say take a pikachu and idk stretch its neck out and mildly change its skin
@vixxcelacea27789 ай бұрын
@@jonathangoodwin5609 Copyright law or trademark, depending on which Pikachu for instance lies under, is all about specificity. Copyright isn't meant to protect just ideas or broad design ideas. No one can own a yellow cartoon mouse in anime style with lightening powers, but exactly how Pikachu looks and the name, that is protected. If Pikachu is trademarked, then it needs to be distinct enough to not have someone assume that if it's on a product, that it's official merch. Much like how putting mouse ears to hint at being Disney official would be a big problem. Trademark is harder line than copyright and also doesn't expire and get turned over to the public overtime. To put it another way, anyone can design and sell a cellphone. The exact way the phone is made however is unique to the company who sells it, such as design, name etc. All phones look pretty similar, because they are all smart phones. Making cartoon anime style monsters based off of animals or mixes of them can't be protected. It's too broad.
@ellebora85368 ай бұрын
They definitively own their 3D meshes, buddy. Why are people trying to play it off as a design issue when it's obvious the problem here is they've ripped off the Pokémon 3D models to make their own ? No one is saying Game Freak owns the idea of a leaf monkey, Pokémon has several aside from Pansage and the "monkey = jungle = leaf" is a common association. And considering there are 1000 Pokémon, any design inspired by a real world animal will look similar to a Pokémon at some point, just like the Simpsons has so many episodes it's literally impossible to find a concept that hasn't been already explored by them. The problem is that you can literally point out which parts of Dinossum were taken from which Pokémon 3D model just by a glance. We're not into getting inspiration there, or common associations, we enter assets stealing territory. And it's obvious they didn't make them from scratch when the 3D models quality in the game is so inconsistent. Sure weird how their 3D modelists can replicate the Pokémon style perfectly on their own, but their humans look straight out of Fortnite. Definitively doesn't scream shovelware.
@saber56948 ай бұрын
@ellebora8536 I think the pokemon company and pocket pair ink know the copyright laws of Japan, the nation they are in far better than you. If there was a problem do you really think considering everything the pokemon company has made claims against, they would have done so the pocket pair?
@carterinosencio456310 ай бұрын
The amount of pokémon connections that are glaringly obvious and completely missed is paining me 😭😭😭
@mossthebryophyter10 ай бұрын
The biggest one I've seen so far is where he missed the luxray and zarude hybrid
@kirby896410 ай бұрын
@@mossthebryophyterbiggest one for me was right out of the gate, with the starly recolor 💀
@eme120ep10 ай бұрын
penguins are clearly piplup
@andrewhansen-mcclellan792310 ай бұрын
@@eme120ep I mean, Pengullet is just a penquin. The fact that it’s blue doesn’t really make it a Piplup ripoff. It has a very distinct design from Piplup, and they pretty much color all the Pals to match their element, so that can explain the blue.
@NogginDew10 ай бұрын
Why has NO ONE mentioned that Azzurro is just Milotic??? Straight-up, a blue Milotic. Like dang, y'all.
@amanloki644910 ай бұрын
He literally forgot lot of non famous pokemon, and some famous ones at that (he forgot piplup and vulpix of the bat, what to say now). Bro even missed Yveltal, wow.
@RainbowKittyy10 ай бұрын
I tried googling those pokemon but i can't really tell the resemblances to anything. Which ones are you comparing to?
@MelodicTurtleMetal10 ай бұрын
Piplup I'm guessing is reference to that penguin... The non king one. Again, theme coloured penguin. Not a rip. Vulpix covers about 1/3rd of all if you don't include the tails. Perhaps the ice fox, since vulpix has several tails and a generic fox shape. Yveltal doesn't really look like it, but i think it's animated much like the fire bird that was claimed original? I don't know
@emboimichel163410 ай бұрын
These people man, they are reaching
@JT-yl9yt10 ай бұрын
Think the worst is the bellossum like pal...and then people throw in two more Pokémon and say they blend them together like wtf Pokémon doesn't even come up with OG designs from their own older pokemon....same with the garbage about copying the idea of a dot eye which is flipping ridiculous.
@ConnorSemp10 ай бұрын
The one he called “just a flying dinosaur” lowkey has the exact face and body as a pokemon
@darryljack661210 ай бұрын
17:01 I'm so tired of this one. The cat's name is GrinTALE, as in a story. It is literally the Cheshire Cat from Alice in wonderland. Which famously has had bright yellow eyes and jagged teeth in some of it's iterations, the pink fur should make that even more obvious. Pokemon didnt create nor owns those features.
@BetaNurse6810 ай бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing. Literally inspired by Cheshire cat. Ears, fur, eyes, on all fours.
@wumpusrat10 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that a lot of people who are into Pokemon and are claiming Palworld "ripped them off" don't really know the origins of a LOT of the stuff they're complaining about. There are a number of Pals based on mythological critters and just "Pal-ified", and people claim Pokemon "invented" it.
@briancordry816510 ай бұрын
@@wumpusrat for REAL, and a huge portion of pokemon designs are just "animal, but with X." insane to me like the one at 11:23. the dog pal. and he says "this is just alcremie" ?????? alcremie is not a dog. pokemon does not own the concepts of "pink" or "ice cream" lol, i cannot stand how much people are caping for nintendo on this one
@captainawf234110 ай бұрын
@@wumpusratYeah, like Pyrin being based off of the Chinese flaming horse Kirin, except with "Pyr-" in the name because pyro means fires. It's literally just a Chinese flaming horse. Unless Pokemon owns Chinese mythology, Rapidash is the ripoff lol. Gnoggin did a video breaking down the etymology of the Pals, it's a really really interesting video
@HeilRay10 ай бұрын
The guy has to actually be creative to get this obvious reference.
@TheWagn1569 ай бұрын
"I haven't seen any pokemon that looks like Gobfin" Gible: Am I a joke to you?
@whatlikeitshardd10 ай бұрын
Elizabee, such an obscure reference. Not like the entire english-speaking world and beyond knows a queen named Elizabeth in recent times.
@MarkCrilley1310 ай бұрын
Lmao thank you. This video is honestly full of so many bizarre takes and a clear lack of real world knowledge. The bad takes actually just weaken the actual evidence of stolen assets/ideas.
@leonarcherjunior209010 ай бұрын
@@MarkCrilley13 ikr 😂😂
@TheNewCoalition10 ай бұрын
@@MarkCrilley13 Yea he's just a small youtuber trying to imitate other youtubers, including their voice, while doing a video about plagiarism, i dunno its pretty meta.
@marioauditore285910 ай бұрын
@@MarkCrilley13 Yeah, i was watching thinking it would be a serious comparison, but the guy just said a Manta Ray is a Pokémon copy 😂 Maybe another frustrated Nintendo stan
@sev913910 ай бұрын
@@MarkCrilley13 he seems to d ride pokemon loool
@CallumEden-r2q10 ай бұрын
Not a Palworld Fan but I'm not exactly sure you've done a lot of research because the black and gold cat pal is based on a ancient statue
@allxtend40059 ай бұрын
But Pokemon made it all first, Nintendo has zero Rights about ther Design because they stole ther Design from somewhere else, and people really think Nintendo and Pokemon own the rights about how a Cat or Cheep is looking in a video game.
@Arkanjin9 ай бұрын
@@allxtend4005 Ya know the cats are literally not based on the same thing, the palworld one is based on Egyptian stuff while Meowth is based on a specific japanese luck figurine. They're not even the same continent.
@mr.fishyt8269 ай бұрын
nerd
@moondewan9 ай бұрын
@@mr.fishyt826 just because your brain has nothing in it doesn't make him a nerd for knowing something
@mr.fishyt8269 ай бұрын
@@moondewan 🗿
@Merlin_YouTube10 ай бұрын
Turns out when Pokemon are closely based on real animals , other monsters in other games look similar
@watchingyoutube_10 ай бұрын
☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽
@TearsOfThem10 ай бұрын
They're based on real animals but completely separated by the features of how cartoonish they look, the art style as well, this is like saying nothing can plagiarized cuz everything is based on something
@PragmaticBLT10 ай бұрын
@TearsOfThem you can't coin an art style though, plagerism is defined as the genuine theft or copying of a preexisting work. Don't get me wrong, I grew up on pokemon and started playing palworld with my husband with the mindset that the monsters in pals where just rips of pocket monsters. I do often find myself being able to ramble about how some pals look like fusions of 2-3 mons. But the more I see them the more I just think majority are inspired not directly ripped. If an art style could be copy righted, all of anime would be in deep trouble.
@slimebunny570010 ай бұрын
Some pokemon yes but there are so many pokemon that aren't closely based on animals and are just fantasy creatures. You can't defend the models where the colors are the same and the models are very similar. It's not easy to copy a standing owl furry archer with autumn colors. Even with pokemon that are similar to animals it's still gonna be difficult to get as close as they do with their designs.
@Ssjvaca10 ай бұрын
Nah, I've seen other Pokémon inspired games before, and none of them have designs this bland and similar to Pokémon.
@iceberg040410 ай бұрын
Quivern defiently gave me reshiram influence. Frostallion and it's counter part has some glastrier and spectrier influenece. The silvally one also had arceus golden arch thing on its back just colored black, the cinnamon moth has some mothim influence, alpaca has pink virizon legs lol, green chipmunk has parichrisu vibes but wouldnt hold that against palword, gorirat gave me gorillaboom vibes, bushi has some mawile looks to it, cat witch has mismagius looks to it, paldadis and its counter part remind me of ceruledge and escavalier, surfent gave me quilava vibes, faleris has some corviknight influence to me. Reptyro has a terrakion look to it. Just some things things I thought I'd point out that this video missed to me. Forgive any errors on the palworld names I was just guessing how theyre spelled as I was going.
@omerzubair3910 ай бұрын
21:13 that Plant Dino's head is straight up Meganium's head. The eyes and head shape are the same as Meganium just the color changed. 34:52 the bird uses Corvinight's body shape. The tuft of feathers in the front is too specific to corvinight.
@oleandervine10 ай бұрын
Not even the same body shape, it's got Corviknight's beard and exact same feet too. They just changed the armor a bit. It even moves the same. In fact, a lot of these Pals seem to use the same, if not extremely similar animation riggings to Pokemon.
@manserizawa232710 ай бұрын
That's just a bird
@shawnatic10 ай бұрын
A lot of Pals you put in suspiciously similar or OC are heavily inspired by cultural folktale or literature that both Palworld and Pokemon took from and some are literally based from different animals. Grintale is based on the Cheshire cat, Pyrin is based on a kirin, Felbat is a vampire, Mozzarina is just a cow and it looks nowhere near that other cow you just compared it with.
@VirtuesOfSin10 ай бұрын
I love how it's name is Grimtale too, like Grim's Fairytales. Pyrin had me slapping my head, cuz that wasn't a zebra. Felbat though, definitely just Darkrai. Lol Pretty sure Mozzarina was a joke.
@Sabersquirl10 ай бұрын
using the same concept is not the same as taking similar design elements. You can recreate the same yokai-esqe concepts in completely different ways if you wanted to.
@nyasam126910 ай бұрын
Mozzarina does have Snorlaxs exact face tho lmao
@aaromalvarez237210 ай бұрын
also the one that he said looks like gyarados is its just jormundager, the serpent monster that causes ragnarok in norse mithology
@coolpeeper10 ай бұрын
@@VirtuesOfSin it's not "grimtale" though it's grintale
@EvanFarshadow10 ай бұрын
Tocotoco and Xatu situation belongs in the "same concept, not a rippoff" category. Both are based on native american totem bird designs and beyond the coloring are completely distinct from each other. Also Tocotoco has some easter egg painting theming to it since its butt happens to be an egg grenade launcher
@dgayle234810 ай бұрын
With the xatu clone the coloring is mostly why its copied. Sure you made a totem bird....with the same color scheme as the other totem bird? Legally it's fine but I'm not gonna act like they sat down and came up with that themselves.
@hamburgerboy10 ай бұрын
@@dgayle2348 Xatu's colors are generic for the concept; look up 'Kachina dolls' and you'll see a bunch with the exact same pattern. Palworld could have copied a different Native American color scheme, maybe swapped out the green for a teal, but definitely fair use imo; it'd be like if there was a red white and blue bald eagle Pokemon.
@shadow876710 ай бұрын
@@dgayle2348 i mean, you can argue that that color scheme is common Aztec colors. You see it in regards to Aztec culture is so many different media, so pokemon didn't even sit down and come up with that themselves.
@undeadspaghetti10 ай бұрын
tocotoco also giving big Viva Piñata vibes
@CoolMagmar10 ай бұрын
@@shadow8767 They could have it to not be full green with small touches of red tho, if they had change the colors and saturation wouldn't even look like a ripoff
@ItsKale10 ай бұрын
31:30 Hearing Brachydios in the video while fighting one really threw me for a loop that I didn't know possible, thanks for that 🤣
@SnaxMang10 ай бұрын
How tf you gonna say Elizabee is too obscure when half of pokemon, palworld, and the whole monster catching genre name things in the exact same way? They're all puns based on nature or culture. If you don't get them you don't get them. But Queen Elizabeth of all things is obscure?
@cblancha118710 ай бұрын
I... assume he somehow didn't know queen elizabeth the second just passed away... somehow, and looked up that 80 years ago, Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, roamed the world. Good ol' "never account to malice what can be explain by ignorance"
@hulkaiden617810 ай бұрын
I watched the entire video, but I'm still wondering if that was meant to be a joke or not.
@Mystcret10 ай бұрын
@@cblancha1187 Plus, there's plenty of movies about Elizabeth (the Virgin Queen) so I think it's fair that non-Brit should understand a pun
@TekTheNinja10 ай бұрын
Eh, kind of weird how a samurai creature having a straw hat was at all compared to Hisuian Decidueye. Like that one on particular stood out to me as weird to call out because Nintendo just... doesn't own that.
@joecreek603810 ай бұрын
Or the Robin Hood guy My friends had been talking about this video and kinda parroting some of this, but this dude is brain dead
@diamondmemer975410 ай бұрын
@@joecreek6038bro that pal is just a dude cosplaying as decidueye
@darriel703510 ай бұрын
yeah it looks more like a ripoff version of sheen or snee from yokai watch
@Melinon10 ай бұрын
Grintale is an obvious take on the Chesire Cat, which is public domain. Unless it's like a specific Disney version of it, there's no case to be made.
@ImMrRacoon10 ай бұрын
That one looks like a combination of skitty and galarian meowth to me lol. Definitely see the Cheshire cat reference too
@patja8910 ай бұрын
The face is quite literally copy paste 😭
@illjabludov153410 ай бұрын
@@patja89 the face can be litterally drawn with 3 brush strokes. You cannot sue a musician because they happen to use the same chord as your song did either
@fozthepoet827410 ай бұрын
Galarian meowth also looks like the cat bus from My Neighbour Totoro
@zombiegoatt428210 ай бұрын
Yeah Nintendo can't sue over something they don't own Chesire Cat is public domain. Just look at the awful Winnie the pooh horror movie they had no rights but public domain saved them from a lawsuit. We will probably be getting a Steamboat Willie film soon which Disney can't do anything about.
@Aisha_Gii9 ай бұрын
1:52 "uncontroversial design" Pachirisu: "Am I a joke to you?????"
@gamertwo626310 ай бұрын
Pyrin is not simply a horse, but a take on the mythical Qilin Also Kelpsea is literally just a kelpie but made to look more cutsey, thus having less-defined features
@phantonn567010 ай бұрын
wanted to comment on that. i've read a lot of manhua and the first thing i thought when i saw that design was the Qiling .If you google it it should be on the front page. main difference is that qilin is depicted with horns while in palworld the design reminds of that is not solid horns
@Dragowolf_Rising10 ай бұрын
Is a qilin the same thing as a kirin? Because that's straight up what pyrin looks like, just fiery instead of heavenly.
@Syuvinya10 ай бұрын
@@Dragowolf_Rising yes. qilin is chinese pinyin while kirin is japanese/korean romanization
@the_godbodor702610 ай бұрын
That Anubis section actually cracked me up with the whole public domain bit.
@izxy7010 ай бұрын
If you showed these to someone 5 years ago they would’ve just assumed they were new Pokémon generations lol
@tor-keeby440110 ай бұрын
Shadowbeak's ring hip not being recognized as stealing from Arceus and Paladius head literally being Ceruledge is absolutely insane
@itsskittles10 ай бұрын
Im honestly pretty upset you said the fire horse is similar to rapidash, but didn’t mention that theyre based off the horsemen of the apocalypse more specifically war
@ghostsuru842910 ай бұрын
I'm actually pretty certain it's based off of a Chinese mythical creature (but I'm not Chinese so I don't know the name) because it has black scales like a dragon. And Pyrin also has scales.
@wookieinmashoo10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's a kirin, with is a Japanese unicorn with dragon aspects, sometimes depicted with fire
@Red-in-Green10 ай бұрын
Fire horse is an extremely common design trope. I feel like I personally need to do one of these tier lists because I KEEP seeing people siting Pokémon designs that are actually just very old tropes. My tip is that if it’s also in Dungeons and Dragons, they’re totally in the clear. See Nightmare for DnD’s local “horse on fire”.
@boopsiedoodles10 ай бұрын
They are based off the Qilin from chinese mythology.
@Ralathar4410 ай бұрын
Lets also think of the ramifications here: "fire + horse = pokemon". No FU it doesn't, you can't own the most basic and generic of design ideas lol. The idea that one game did something as simple as "used animal + element" or "based design off of existing thing" means they suddenly own that idea or any adaptions is just....honestly hella dystopian. Might as well just sell us all to Disney now.
@Kyuketski10 ай бұрын
I'm sad that you're saying that Rayhound is suspicious when it's literally just a pun on a grayhound as an electric dog
@PivotCyroy10 ай бұрын
Grintale, both the name and the eye and mouth design are a reference to the Chesire cat. Honestly I think the design would need it's own tier: Different idea, same execution.
@RealLifeIronMan10 ай бұрын
That would be a fair point, but the assets for the eyes and mouth are virtually rips from Galarian Meowth.
@PivotCyroy10 ай бұрын
@@RealLifeIronMan Except that when you closely compare the eyes of the 3d models they are in fact different shapes and coloration and not a rip from Galarian Meowth, hence my statement.
@RealLifeIronMan10 ай бұрын
@@PivotCyroy I respect your perspective, but the shape and coloration differences in the eyes are too minor to my mind. But I can see where you are coming from.
@dijatoll10 ай бұрын
when i see it i think of catbus from Totoro
@PivotCyroy10 ай бұрын
@@dijatoll Very coincidentally the catbus was also inspired by the Cheshire Cat.
@tomsmithok10 ай бұрын
18:45 “it doesn’t really resemble any particular Pokémon” except that thing just looks like a bigger Glaceon
@Khainite10 ай бұрын
Univolt is an electric unicorn, not a zebra. How you didn't get that from it's name I have no idea.
@Dvaxter8810 ай бұрын
ikr
@terrasque524010 ай бұрын
also he didn't get it is basicaly zebstrika + manectric... or that just a way to get more commentary of people complaining, lol
@emrysm550110 ай бұрын
The Kirin from Chinese mythology is a horned horse associated with lightning.
@garbageknights10 ай бұрын
@emrysm5501 it is 100% based on the Kirin, which is often depicted as striped
@Ralathar4410 ай бұрын
@@garbageknights It's funny how many times pokemon fans be yelling ITS A COPY while being ignorant of the mythology or IRL animal its based on :D. Really making the rest of us look bad.
@UnWastedMovies10 ай бұрын
It's funny to me that you often go for a comparison with a newer gen pokemon. A fire pony is for me immediately a ponyta/rapidash. And the plant Pal at 10:10 is just belossom. The pattern I see is that a lot of the time they mixed 2 pokemons
@highdefinition45010 ай бұрын
yea they changed them just enough to have plausible deniability but like, it's super obvious most of the time lmao
@NoNo-bg8oc10 ай бұрын
The plant pal at 10:10 is definitely not bellossom
@p.as.in.pterodactyl102410 ай бұрын
@NoNo-bg8oc It's very Bellossomesque, particularly regarding color scheme.
@NoNo-bg8oc10 ай бұрын
@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 No, it isn't. People are getting delusional over this game lol. Bellossom is not primarily red and green and is not based on a thorny rose bush. Bellossom is a cutesy hawaiian dancer girl who is meant to represent a young, shy person finally coming out of their shell. The pictured Pal is thorny red and green bush girl that presumably does slave labor or something.
@justgracetbh10 ай бұрын
I was genuinely surprised lifmunk was deemed "original" when it looks *so much* like leafeon. And I agree that they often mixed two pokemon, there's something about Catvia that just *Screams* pokemon to me, like it's a mix of Meowth and Clefable or something. It's one of the Pals that look like a region variant of existing Pokemon. Also maybe it's cause I watched Hazbin Hotel recently, but Tombat looks like Husk to me.
@maddmatts132010 ай бұрын
Are Paldius and Nicomus not just amrarouge and ceruledge? Those helmets are awfully similar and Nicomus' arm lances are also similar to Ceruledge
@a_cup_of_joe54010 ай бұрын
Palworld was already in development when sv came out
@robokit9610 ай бұрын
amrarouge and ceruledge looks like digimon anyway
@followthelucario438810 ай бұрын
there's like one year and a half between the reveal of armarouge and ceruledge (they got teased in one of the pre-launch trailers) and the release of palworld, that's more than enough time to rip them off @@a_cup_of_joe540
@YourFavoriteDakimakura10 ай бұрын
Yeah that one is extremely blatant considering they're both counterparts of each other with a defense and offense motif where the offense one has two sword arms on top of the aesthetic similarities like come on guys lol Those Pokemon made a huge splash when they were first revealed pre-release too so it's no surprise they'd scramble to get them in here, they're among the last Pals on the Deck too so i think it's safe to say they were added pretty late.
@a_cup_of_joe54010 ай бұрын
@@YourFavoriteDakimakura where koraidon and miraidon added late in development since they are at the end of their dex
@nyx302710 ай бұрын
Me when Dragon Quest was BLATANTLY copied by Pokemon and people like you make videos saying Palworld is Plagiarizing. OH no the humanity not the multi-billion-dollar company!
@Xxgamer3372xX10 ай бұрын
its not for Nintendo its for the fact that its unoriginal
@raynmanshorts927510 ай бұрын
7:52 It's an Egyptian cat. It just straight-up looks like Bastet in full animal form. There are a lot of Pals that are based in mythology and religion, even more (as a percentage) than Pokemon. Some of the ones near the top are really not legitimate for a lawsuit simply because Game Freak cannot own the mythology or religion on which they're based. And some of these are just "Oh, they have the same helmet!" and it's like... a helmet. That you would find. On European battlefields. Very commonly. Again, not something Game Freak can claim to own.
@Solesteam10 ай бұрын
1:15 Not to mention you can't copyright the concept of sheep with overgrown coats, so that makes things a bit difficult... He looks more like something out of Kirby, they sure love their spherical characters in dreamland.
@nickj733210 ай бұрын
And the money cat. It's just a thing in some asian cultures. Definitely not an original thing for pokemon.
@HeyHeyChey10 ай бұрын
I don't think you've ever seen Suicune, Corviknight, Ceruledge and Murkrow among others...
@wrightcember10 ай бұрын
literally screamed when he forgot entei existed when discussing the fire goat thing. literally what
@girthvader155110 ай бұрын
@@wrightcember Entei isn't a goat tho??
@shadowlolbit7810 ай бұрын
@@girthvader1551 It is confirmed that they're cats
@girthvader155110 ай бұрын
@@shadowlolbit78 yeah so not a goat...
@wrightcember10 ай бұрын
THEYRE CATS??
@23bcx9 ай бұрын
If you coppy something but do it better than the original is it really bad?
@JackNicholason10 ай бұрын
I just wanna get this out there. But if Nintendo, one of the most lawsuit happy companies when it comes to protecting their IP, isnt suing over anything in this game. Then there isnt anything wrong or plagiarising about Palworld
@willlacey762110 ай бұрын
That's not really true because the cost benefit analysis might deem that suing palworld would backfire and create an anti-pokemon resentment (particularly given how many active players the game has). Suing may simply not be a reasonable business decision. Morally speaking, copying is lame and it clearly seems like palworld did that in a variety of cases
@darryljack661210 ай бұрын
@@willlacey7621 That literally makes no sense, most of these deigns were public knowledge for 3 years, before the game was even popular. If they had grounds to sue, they would have done so. There isnt any legal plagiarism.
@zwillscoopchannel968910 ай бұрын
@@darryljack6612 exactly plus both companies are in Japan a lot of Japanese devs know each other so there’s no way they wouldn’t have known. The only reason why this controversy is going on is because Nintendo took down the Pokemon mod but every video was titled that they took down the game
@Pyskiper10 ай бұрын
I think they just dont have any ground to stand on. Everything is probably just different enough where they cant reliably win in court That doesnt mean there is nothing plagiarizing in palworld. But if you’re only plagiarizing a multi billion dollar company its okay in my book anyways.
@Songfugel10 ай бұрын
Nintendo has announced they are still investigating the matter
@hmarco2210 ай бұрын
How the hell did Piplup make it into the original tier :0
@davaydg10 ай бұрын
So did mudkip😭
@ThatsTypical10 ай бұрын
its a penguin... pokemon didnt invent penguins
@kavo146010 ай бұрын
honestly, it looks more like a matio 64 penguin then it does piplup. Piplup is quite generic anyway, it’s just a penguin 😅
@Pyskiper10 ай бұрын
Its certainly a straight steal from pokemon but Piplup itself is just a small cute penguin so not very unique. So gonna be hard to prove that they didnt just create a different small cute penguin. Its kinda the same with a bunch in the list
@adminbob_10 ай бұрын
@@ThatsTypical so why was it..not in the “same idea” tier, at least?
@SomeKindOfDracula10 ай бұрын
You seen Grimtails face before because it's the Cheshire cats face.
@freelancert410 ай бұрын
thank you! Glad someone realized that.
@darcieclements488010 ай бұрын
You know I would love to say that the Eevee is a rip off but I think the reason that they risked it is that there's several manga that have characters almost identical to Eevee that predate pokémon. Still out of all of these that's the one that's really the most concerning because you could argue it is an Eevee with a bad hair day. I remember being shocked when I found out that there were at least two animes that predated pokémon that had characters that looked nearly identical to Eevee. I found out at an anime convention where I was flipping through some old manga at a booth and I was like how did pokémon get away with this when I found the first one and the person running it went and grabbed the other one and said wait until you see this.😂
@VisonsofFalseTruths10 ай бұрын
@@darcieclements4880 bruh Pokémon’s entire concept was lifted from other games that cane before. The first creature collector came out in fucking 1987. They got away with it cuz copyright law doesn’t actually work the way internet randos think it does, we’ve been convinced it works that way by giant companies that know they have no case and sue anyway because they don’t expect to be challenged. Especially if the defendant has to go to fucking Germany for an international trial. Nintendo wont do thay because Pocket Pair is headquartered in Japan so Nintendo can’t just bully them into compliance; they’re actively on their home turf. Also, eevee? Seriously? The one who’s design is literally just “cute fox”?
@ratiquette10 ай бұрын
Nah that mf is Catbus
@user-dh7sm9zh9e10 ай бұрын
You mean catbus from Totoro
@Diablocera8 ай бұрын
At 29:54 Wumpo is very similar to a scrapped design pokemon design called “Wolfman” that evolves into “Warwolf”. Wolf like outer appearance with little eyes in darkness with claws. I don’t even know what this can land in, what are the rules of copying scrapped designs?
@jakethesnakejohnston10 ай бұрын
Dude's like: "This pal looks like this pokemon! Completely original!"
@MaintDocs10 ай бұрын
Important to the discussion is *_how many pokemon are blatant ripoffs of older jrpg's?_* If Nintendo is going to bring up "we think you copied our design," they bring possible backlash, when the original source material _nintendo copied_ comes out in defense as being their inspiration. Note that I'm not saying palworld isn't blatantly trying to look similar. I'm saying Nintendo's 'unique' ideas are instead common tropes. For example, how many jrpg's have lightning wolves, dogs, foxes, etc. Fire horses? Also very common. These ideas are _common_ in Japanese mythology. (and other mythologies too) Diglet? I remember thinking, "oh, i've seen that design in another game before." Part of what pokemon has done - is cheaply throw whatever hash of ideas together, often directly pulled from other inspirations. What is the style of pokemon? Is it so unique? *If you showed someone unfamiliar a picture of Kirby, would they know he's not a pokemon?* The style isn't that unique. It's within the subset of common Chibi styles. So what is pokemon's style? It's a style of chibi with an overemphasis on simplistic round or oval shapes, heavy use of V's and Zigzags, heavy reuse and cut and pasting, postures accentuated or completely removed, any thin or lanky features made excessively so, any hair is either excessively accentuated or smoothed away. The people are an obvious anime style including the either exaggerated spiky hair, excessively soft and curly, or exceptionally neat smooth hair.
@christiancinnabars140210 ай бұрын
There's a difference between using animal + elemental as a design basis, and releasing Fenglope as a Pal over 13 years after Cobalion was introduced with Black and White. That's all I'm gonna say.
@itsLantik9 ай бұрын
@@christiancinnabars1402fully agree. Dragon Quest's mons look wildly different because the art style is so different, Pokémon may have used similar inspirations but actually changed the designs a lot. Palworld put in the exact Pokémon style into a gritty environment and it just clashes really hard.
@desertkil9 ай бұрын
@@christiancinnabars1402Palworld wiki says "Fenglope with its cloud theming and level-up skillset including many water moves may partially be inspired by the Fuzhu, a mythical deer from Chinese mythology that is associated with floods and weather change." I'm probably not going to convince you of anything, but if you feel like looking up fuzhu, you'll get more results with " 夫诸 " than using English. To me, yea the colours are too insanely similar to be a coincidence, but they definitely look like different creatures to me with wildly different body shapes, and different themes.
@samuelwhitmill16110 ай бұрын
Bro forgot what a Piplup, Rapidash, and Misdrevious was. I am not mad at Palworld for what they did, but since you made this video, you might want to consider thinking what pals are different pokemon mixed. That small tea elephant one looked like 2 different pokemon I've seen before.
@thirteenfury10 ай бұрын
Tea elephant is totally Cufant plus Munna.
@RainbowKittyy10 ай бұрын
It kinda just looks like a generic elephant to me
@SpotifyUser-bk8px10 ай бұрын
Bro fusion pokemon are not plagiarism
@utatanepiko708710 ай бұрын
Cufant and Munna for me (because of its shape and looks like it can float). Both cute elephants. Can't blame them for wanting to combine them But also like...a combination of Tia from Animal Crossing too, probably because she is also an elephant that looks like a teapot
@CryoJnik10 ай бұрын
@@utatanepiko7087 Munna is a Tapir
@Tsaigos9 ай бұрын
Imagine celeray and direhowl being in separate tiiers even though they are both pretty much inspirations on real life animals. I'm calling you out for the Injustice against rays, the tier list is rigged
@ArchangelSparda10 ай бұрын
To be fair, galarian meowth is just a Cheshire Cat face. It’s possible the assets were copied, but it’s also just an anime version of the picture from the book.
@coldeed10 ай бұрын
On top of the fact that "shark mouth" is just a generic anime kinda of mouth. Like the one fang type of mouth.