Pantheon Arms Dolos Review

[@H2OSensei]

I just setup the Dolos on a 7.5" 300 blackout. I got it as tight as I could without the handguard, then lined up the pic rail and installed the handguard. With the handguard on, I can get an extra click, which thrown the rail out of whack. If I just go to where the rails line up, i have a tiny (side to side) play on the handguard. I'm using a YHM hanguard with the jam nut... which is a perfect name for it, cause it's jammed on there and I can't get it off to readjust. I haven't shot it yet, but I'm going to tomorrow.

[@Tetsuo907]

How did it perform at the range?

[@H2OSensei]

@@Tetsuo907 I had zero issues with it. It shot nicely and everything worked as intended. I've since was able to remove the handguard and readjust. Now it feels more solid. It's a great system. I also just learned that there's a "barrel lock" kit that makes the barrel unit more solid when its separated. Doesn't affect performance, but just keeps the unit together nicely.

[@jamesbradshaw5137]

Thanks Brother ill recheck everything built upper myself thanks for replying keep up the great work ill keep you informed!

[@kelvinm5774]

Thank you for some honesty and won’t be getting this because it loosens over time

[@xcalibre222]

Good Job. Thanks

[@wewd]

The locking collar looseness is supposed to be taken care of with the set screws near the top rail.

[@workthetrigger]

Although those help, you definitely need to get that barrel nut tighter than any traditional barrel nut. which is made even more difficult by the lack of ability to put a torque wrench on it. loctite and crank that thing down is required.

[@chriscraig8429]

Dead foot arms has a useable folding system that seems it can be shorter and fired when folded

[@workthetrigger]

+Chris Craig yep, I believe those are newer systems and weren't out when I put this thing together.

[@maybeiam3367]

Does this hurt the accuracy? I mean I imagine the barrel is looser than a standard barrel nut. Haven't seen anyone test accuracy.

[@maybeiam3367]

The loosening part is a bit concerning.

[@maybeiam3367]

Also the dead foot arms modified cycling system is better than the pdw stock.

[@workthetrigger]

Well, we didn't build a sub MOA gun, so i cant speak for that, but 1/4 scale silhouette hits at 100 yards were easy. The barrel nut isn't any looser than a standard one. actually, i'd say the opposite. That was the problem with loosening, i dont think i got it quite tight enough. The second time with a little loctite I got it quite a bit tighter. The barrel is still piloted in the same hole as it would be with a standard system, you can actually hear it lock into the pilot hole in the video. I'd say if you're running a 1.5" group out of a standard barrel system, you could still pull a sub 2" group out of this. I just dont think it's as rugged as a standard system. It's not something i'd put on a battle rifle, more of a niche rifle.

[@deplorabledave1048]

@@workthetrigger What a great, accurate response. I think I'm going to subscribe to your Channel!! I just bought a Dolos for my 7.5" build. I bought their experimental version called The Dolos Wedge. It was a bit cheaper, and I like the handguard better. I think they still have a few of those for sale. I have what I think is the coolest PDW brace on the market. It is made by Strike Industries. It's spring loaded. You just stick your thumb up and the brace shoots out like a stiletto. I freaking love it. They even managed to design it with a very good cheek weld. Something that HK extendable versions do NOT have!

[@RGCbaseace]

I love mine dolos ZERO DEFECTS

[@louisward3654]

What hanguard is that?

[@jamesbradshaw5137]

Question when your barrel is locked in do you have any movement in the barrel or handguard just purchased the system an noticed i can slightly move the barrel an handguard. Thanks

[@workthetrigger]

Nope, barrel is rock solid on there. Did you purchase the kit and put the upper together yourself? Or did you buy the complete rifle? Also, which direction can you move it? does it spin, or move in and out of the upper? if it moves in and out, you may need to re-tighten the barrel nut. The first time I put it together, that nut loosened. I put some locktite on and really cranked it on (used a punch on one of the edges and gave it a good whacking) and it's been tight ever since.

[@benniebeeker]

I know you posted this a year ago, but I had this same problem and this is for anyone else who comes across this. What I ended up doing was hitting the lock collar with a strap wrench BEFORE putting the hand guard on it. I repeated this four or 5 times to get it over an extra click or so on the pawl. Barrel stopped moving and it was nice and snug.

[@travisgarn7300]

benniebeeker whats your grouping like? I’m at over 2 inches at 36 yds with a 14.5 in barrel and I think that’s unacceptable... but this dolos system doesn’t have much traction when it comes to accuracy, I’m not looking for MOA but something reasonable

[@victorgalvez927]

how do you align the hand guard rail with the upper???

[@workthetrigger]

the upper and rail only need aligned on the initial assembly to put the Dolos barrel nut on. When doing that, i'll typically use something like a half in riser, they're typically about 6" long, and span between the upper and rail. the more clamping locations the better. that'll line everything up for the initial assembly. After that, when you pu tthe fore-end back on, everything will line up. you just crank until it's lined up. since it ratchets shut, you'll see when the rail lines up, and it should stop at that point. if it doesn't, you didn't assemble it right.

[@victorgalvez927]

@@workthetrigger thanks a lot!!!!

[@CHRIS_RKO]

Estoy aquí porque confundí la A con una O.

[@workthetrigger]

Well... I mean, since you're here, you can stick around.

[@akaTheDevil]

How about accuracy? Do you loose accuracy with the dolos vs if you didn't have it

[@workthetrigger]

Not sure, gun was built from scratch. Not converted. Accuracy was acceptable, but not exceedingly great. Repeatability seemed good. Design of the AR15 and how the barrel seats lends itself to good consistency and reliability as long as the barrel is seated well

[@akaTheDevil]

@@workthetrigger it returns to zero after you take it down?

[@workthetrigger]

Yep. The AR barrel system is great for that

[@BM-mh8yh]

Can I hook this system up with my 18 inch barrel? I'm guessing I'll just have a little extra barrel hanging off the end?

[@workthetrigger]

+Vurkem Vurkem yes, you should be able to run that long of a barrel with it. Because the barrel Pilots into the receiver, the only thing that the system is doing is holding the barrel into the receiver. Again, I wouldn't bang it around much, but it should be able to hold the Barrel in well enough.

[@ericj6636]

Now that it has a locking mechanism, would the Dolos 2 work with a 9mm barrel with no gas tube?

[@workthetrigger]

+Eric J I have no idea. You'll have to ask them.

[@andykruth]

Yeas it work even better without a gastube

[@MrAmerica69420]

So I have a mission first tactical handguard and I was wanting to know if that would work with this?

[@workthetrigger]

+tank boss not sure. If it works with Yankee Hill barrel nuts, yes. If you're not sure, give them a call, or an email.

[@PoliticalSmackdown]

i dont like the fact that the barrel is loose from the hand guard

[@workthetrigger]

It's a free float hand guard, they're supposed to be that loose. improves accuracy. The biggest issue I have with rigidity of the system is that the barrel is only held to the receiver with essentially about 1/4 turn worth of super course threading.

[@sirmerksalotyung5969]

Would this work with and handguard/barel combo? Or do you have to use specific handguards? Please reply thanks.

[@workthetrigger]

+SirMerksAlot Yung any barrel, but the hand guards are limited. I know the dolos hand guards and Yankee Hill Machining hand guards fit. I don't know about others.

[@sirmerksalotyung5969]

Work right on thankyou very much for quick reply.

[@Kross527]

Can the end cap for the Yankee hill be use to keep the barrel from moving loosely ?

[@workthetrigger]

+Kross527 yes, the cap will help keep rattle down at least a little.

[@H2OSensei]

I just found out there's a "barrel lock" kit for $20. It keeps the barrel unit more solid, when separated.

[@MrGeoffois]

How does that affect accuracy? When it's locked in over and over do you need to zero your sights for slight movements?

[@workthetrigger]

Doesnt really, its piloted in the receiver, I mean, maybe eventually? I dont really know, the thing never got any easier to put together or pull apart. didnt feel like it loosened at all.

[@m4rvinmartian]

@@workthetrigger did you actually try testing accuracy over several take downs?

[@workthetrigger]

Only over about 3 takedowns. But the method of an ARs accuracy and the way the system locks indicates it should hold zero with an optic.

[@kinzieconrad105]

Are you trying to drive tacks at 500 yards or are you punching pie plays at a 100’. If your stuff is in spec it holds zero.

[@niloc-werdna]

Ive bought the gen 2 with just the regular slotted rail. I've got it all installed but when I ratchet the barrel down all the way it's nice and solid but the slots aren't lining up. Any ideas?

[@workthetrigger]

what slots are you talking about? the slots on your rail? the rail could just be timed incorrectly. it's a little bit of a PITA to get everything timed right when you're putting this thing together.

[@jpunse2]

I've had the same issue and reached out to one of the retailers that sells this unit. They suggested using the Yankee Hill Jam nut which you can see is equipped on the rifle in the video. They suggested the slots were just for ventilation and that those handguards aren't timed.

[@chitterlingsrtasty]

Jamie Unseld the pantheon mlok handguard is not setup to be lines either which is very strange to me

[@benniebeeker]

Is there any play on the barrel at all?? Even a slight bit??

[@workthetrigger]

it's been a while since the build (i built it for someone else and went out and ran it through the ringer to make sure it functioned properly) but i dont believe so. Gotta remember the way AR barrels are fit, they've got a rather large pilot diameter and a timing pin, all this system does is holds the barrel in tight (which it does). there's no inward/outward movement, and because of that, no movement in other directions either.

[@joshquiroz]

So with the red lock tight how would you remove the handguard?

[@workthetrigger]

you can break red locktite. you'd just need to use a strap wrench and crank on it. or heat it, loctite burns off.

[@deplorabledave1048]

They have excellent inexpensive heat guns on Amazon. I always have heat gun handy. I use one all the time for all sorts of things. Loctite removal, heat shrink tubing, Etc. I have had to use my heat gun even for BUE Loctite removal..... if the fastener is quite small. Otherwise, you can strip the head trying to remove them. I learned that the hard way. You can't afford not to have a heat gun. They just don't cost very much, and they are so useful.

[@homefront3162]

yellow?

[@workthetrigger]

What's a bees favorite color?

[@jpiuvara]

I'm New to guns would this work with an Adam's AR piston upper?

[@workthetrigger]

No, DI ARs only

[@blainezinn2874]

no it will not

[@factdesignbr]

Where is my ar10 version?

[@workthetrigger]

I'm not sure I'd trust it with a full rifle caliber 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@factdesignbr]

@@workthetrigger There is this guy at the range who hand screws his ar10. It has one of those handguards that screws into the barrel nut. He never had a failure and gives it hell.

[@workthetrigger]

That sounds like a better setup. The lugs that hold this one on are just a little less then I'd want

[@factdesignbr]

@@workthetrigger Yeah. I trust screwing it more than those small lil things that holds it together. I have tried it with a 4 rail handguard and then to keep it from unscrewing I added a picantinny rail mount at the handguard|upper receiver meeting point. Never unscrewed. Hahahah worked perfectly

[@andykruth]

Jesus fucking christ,whats up with the sound quality?

[@workthetrigger]

Unfortunately, this was one of my first videos posted up before i got a decent camera... it was on a GoPro. if i could go back and redo it, i absolutely would.

[@kinzieconrad105]

There is zero chance of not have to open or lock the bolt open. You really can whine about anything.

[@workthetrigger]

My job is to point out the features of items/accessories/firearms, and things that users may not notice or think about that may be a deal breaker to them... so yeah, i'm gonna point stuff out.

[@markmitchezee2728]

WTF ? You list as one of the Cons as the lack of ability to lock the bolt back ? On your AR-15 ? Then you don't tell a truly stunned & amazed Gun world where to find the one AR-15 on the planet that doesn't have a Bolt Release lever. Come On Bro ! "Teenie Tiny" ?