World Athletics announces ban on transgender women from female events

Sebastian Coe, the president of the World Athletics Council, confirmed at a press conference on Thursday that the organisation has voted to exclude transgender women from female events.
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The ruling, which will be enforced from 31 March, applies to elite competition transgender athletes who have transitioned from male to female after going through puberty. The council also voted to cut the maximum amount of plasma testosterone for athletes.
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[@hithere9377]

A win for common sense.

[@DrWoofOfficial]

What does this mean for high school sports and other sport leagues?

[@thethirdman225]

How do you figure that? World Athletics already had a process in place to deal with it. Furthermore, they were continuing to adjust it *in the interests of fairness.* Now they throw it out. Either there’s been an ideological argument within WA or they’re afraid of something. The best thing that can happen now is that the model for the Paralympics can be adapted to suit.

[@Dracoool]

@@thethirdman225 ....are you upset that transgender women are banned from competing in female events?

[@thethirdman225]

@@crouchingtiger9632 No, it's a reaction to appease conservatives and the religious right. World Athletics and the IAAF before it, have always been captured by such groups.

[@thethirdman225]

@championchap LOL!! How do you figure that?

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Finally a win for women and girls.

[@Gaze73]

The same women and girls will tell you that trans women are real women.

[@thethirdman225]

Men have never been allowed to compete in women’s athletics events. There are no winners here.

[@drevil7684]

@@thethirdman225 it's a win for biological women

[@heavensophia9382]

The irony of you saying that is surprising but I'm glad to see such a 🧱 trans woman agrees.

[@thethirdman225]

@@drevil7684 Tell it like it is: in athletics, biological women were already protected. In the 1940's perhaps the system was more fallible but women still had to present a doctor's examination certificate to prove their eligibility. In the 1960s this was deemed inadequate and testing for genetic abnormalities was introduced. If you had an abnormality like an extra chromosome (XXY), you couldn't compete. Later on, this was deemed unfair because the condition was treatable with testosterone-reducing medications. That was the case until yesterday. Women such as Caster Semenya, who refused the treatment, were not eligible to compete. She refused, therefore she voted herself out. Her appeal to the Human Rights Commission also failed. Aminatou Seyni was facing the same prospect. Anyone who says that biological men were allowed to compete against women in athletics is a liar.

[@Dilley_G45]

I'm not a woman nor do I compete. But I'm.happy for all the real women out there who work so hard to achieve success in Sports. It took way too long but common sense is making a comeback. As a (real) man I wouldn't consider it fair to compete with women or kids.

[@maxsheerin8219]

Thank you for your support 🙏

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

I am too.

[@celerysalt6761]

this should never have ever happened in the first place it made absolutely no rational sense to begin with at all its an embarassement on the world stage of athletics and those who are responsible for it should be fired

[@maxsheerin8219]

@@celerysalt6761 correct. In plain and simple terms 👌

[@thethirdman225]

Men have never been allowed to officially compete with women in athletics. Anyone who tells otherwise is a liar.

[@transcendbeing]

Yes finally! But what I'm worried about now is that they will try to remove this man from his position because of his opinion which is actually very logical. Thank you Mr Coe.

[@scottwright66]

Lord Coe lol

[@phuocluong7974]

The decision is made by the council members who are national athletics associations. He’s essentially just a spokesperson in this decision.

[@spiderpigkreng]

Why not try ban the world Athletics now😂😂

[@spiderpigkreng]

@@crouchingtiger9632 that's what the THEMS THEY do when feelings overtake FACTS

[@RESPECTpine_ppleONpizza]

​@@spiderpigkrengno need to

[@vstar7196]

This is the right thing to do. Keep the momentum going.

[@thethirdman225]

No it isn’t. A case-by-case system, which was already in place and working, was the right thing to do. This is a stunt to appease reactionaries.

[@Dracoool]

Can't turn a bull into a cow or a rooster into a chicken.

[@thethirdman225]

Nobody was trying to do that. You need to do some research. This is not about mad science. It’s about adequate regulation.

[@Dracoool]

@@thethirdman225 ...no one is trying to do it because it can't be done...bulls and roosters simply don't belong racing with cows and chickens.

[@thethirdman225]

@@Dracoool Have you read the rules or not?

[@thethirdman225]

@@Dracoool This is not about a male athlete putting on a dress and saying, ‘I identify as a woman so you have to let me compete or it’s a violation of my rights’. Transgender has many, many genetic forms. Conservative commentators don’t want you to know that. There are lots of reasons why that scenario can’t occur, if you bother to find out. The system, as it was, was far from perfect but it was better than nothing and it was continuing to be refined.

[@Dracoool]

@@thethirdman225 ...womens sports by definition are for "women" ...not "altered men"..its quite simple.

[@itskeagan3004]

It feels like the words of us sane and rational adults might be sinking in. Great job, this is a win for women. As a father of 3 teen girls this is a great relief we need to see more of.

[@atinyvoice7861]

Well said!

[@thethirdman225]

Yeah, except that anyone with a brain who bothers to research this knows that the system was working and athletes who refused to comply forced themselves out of the competition. The 2019 regulations worked well. A blanket ban is blatantly discriminatory.

[@thethirdman225]

Tell me what you think of the Roe v Wade reversal.

[@yinsolaya]

@@thethirdman225 Still crying? Aw.

[@itskeagan3004]

@@thethirdman225 you need to work on critical and rational thinking. Overturning Roe vs Wade has nothing to do with trans women but since you asked I will say that I am glad less innocent human life will be destroyed.

[@Rs73Rs]

A truly brilliant decision. Well done World athletics. Let’s keep going and turn the world away from plastics poisoning.

[@dougiemcbriar1998]

Sense breaking out at last...well done World athletic council 👋👋👋

[@MrStoneyburke]

Trans people should set up their own Olympics just like the Special Olympics.

[@benvandam369]

😅

[@WI-FI_GOD]

The trans women will dominate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thethirdman225]

That’s the only sensible answer here and it’s probably what will happen.

[@Dilley_G45]

That's where they belong...mentally challenged

[@johnsun2416]

And call it Trans Olympic.

[@drevil7684]

I didn't think they would have the balls to do this 🍒

[@benvandam369]

😅😂😂😂😂 Well played

[@thethirdman225]

There was no reason why they should. They already had a system which was working.

[@drevil7684]

@TheThirdMan I couldn't disagree with you more. Biogical men should never be allowed in women's sports ever

[@thethirdman225]

@@drevil7684 Great straw man argument. Biological men _never were_ allowed in women’s athletics events. You should read the history of it. WA and the IAAF before it were policing this as far back as the late 1940s. The 2019 rules were quite specific.

[@drevil7684]

@@thethirdman225 then why did world athletics change the rule ? 🤡

[@codyhafer5972]

This is a win for mental health, not just women! The fact this has gone down the way it has is disgusting!!!

[@thethirdman225]

Not if you’re trans, it ist.

[@moester75]

@the third man Why can’t the transsexuals just for their own sports leagues and play against each other rather than ruin the REAL females sports? I bet you won’t answer me.

[@sbaby-fc3ki]

💯

[@thethirdman225]

@@sbaby-fc3ki Sheep

[@lauryn7840]

​@@thethirdman225 No one is saying trans can't compete.They are simply saying trans can't cheat any longer.

[@Lanark-iy4mt]

Sanity. Pure and simple. The tide is turning against this utter nonsense. Tom Daley needs someone to pull him aside and remind him that as a gold medal winning bloke he’s no right to tell women they can’t compete on a level field. Grow up Tom!!

[@paulcammock420]

Yeah shurrup Tom ya little doyle

[@thethirdman225]

Aside from your personal biases, do you have any idea how the system was working before?

[@thethirdman225]

@@crouchingtiger9632 Of course it was. Look at the case of Caster Semenya. Aminatou Seyni was likely to be next. You keep replying to my posts but you never bother to research anything, do you?

[@jh7589]

​@@thethirdman225 how much time you spent whining in the comments about a south African runner.

[@thethirdman225]

@@jh7589 Whining? Is that the best you can do? What about the rights of people to compete?

[@kevogamingid]

Victory for women ❤

[@Dilley_G45]

Victory for MANKIND

[@clockworkNate]

Victory for real women* 😄

[@scottwright66]

Well done, long long overdue to protect female athletics for hard working and amazing women and girls

[@thethirdman225]

Female athletes were already protected. You need to research it.

[@breadwinningbiscuit1086]

@@thethirdman225 Lol stop baiting on all the comments

[@thethirdman225]

@@breadwinningbiscuit1086 Yeah, why stand in the way of a tidal wave of ignorance?

[@thethirdman225]

@@breadwinningbiscuit1086 By the way, do you know how the rules worked or don’t you?

[@Dracoool]

@@thethirdman225...female athletes are protected now.

[@NekoShmeko]

Great news!

[@thethirdman225]

Discrimination

[@gilldavis742]

@@thethirdman225 Still coping? Aw.

[@thesuperostrich]

@@thethirdman225no it isn’t

[@thethirdman225]

@@thesuperostrich Do you know how the 2019 rules worked? Obviously not.

[@dangerdan2592]

I can almost hear the screeching from The Guardian staff and Twitter from over here.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

So what about the IOC? It would be completely ridiculous if someone was able to compete at the Olympics but not in the World Athletics Championships.

[@XDF745]

IOC deferred to federations so this ban also applies to athletics at the Olympics.

[@focus45554]

They won't be able to qualify anyways since they need to compete in athletic events to be at the Olympics.

[@CrossForum]

That sounds sensible. It reminds me of the era back around 1980 when exceptional female athletes were subjected to chromosome testing to possibly find chromosome variations that 'skewed' their biology/physiology towards that of a male athlete. It proved to be kind of ridiculous as most of the athletes subjected to it were OK, but those few were suspected of doping to improve performance anyway.

[@douglastaylor3348]

I think this is way over due, and I totally agree.

[@StefanRowe-dj8xs]

Hooray common sense prevails at last

[@blackmatca6277]

Absolute win for sanity. Thank you people thank you, this gives me hope actually

[@thethirdman225]

Discrimination

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

@@thethirdman225 I’m wondering why there doesn’t seem to be much discrimination or prejudice against trans men competing in mens sports. Do you know why that is?

[@thethirdman225]

@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Can you rephrase the question please?

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

@@thethirdman225 Do you know why there seems to be little to no objection to trans men competing in men’s sports?

[@thethirdman225]

@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. What do you mean by "trans men'? Which direction are they going? I only ask because there have been other similar question, some referring to women transitioning to men and other to men transitioning to women. In both cases they were described as ‘trans men’.

[@stevenharris7614]

They can compete..against other men they aren't being excluded

[@bigdaveo397]

Finally. I can't say common sense has prevailed because it should never have been allowed in the first place. Owen Jones on the other hand is going to melt down.

[@benjaminfranklin8412]

Very few people perceive this policy revision to be controversial.

[@tina50ify]

Only those that work at the Guardian or Rolling Stone would feel this way.

[@briangatt2956]

Can you imagine if they allowed adults to compete against kids ?

[@jessiturner2714]

Honestly they would have probably pushed for it eventually…Because I’m sure there are weirdos out there wanting to identify as a child…

[@thethirdman225]

They already do.

[@crulova3776]

it's actually happening recently, I've already seen a case like that

[@thethirdman225]

@@crulova3776 It's been happening for decades. Have you checked the ages of Olympic Gymnasts and swimmers? Have you looked into how sprinters run against older age groups or even mixed races to improve performances?

[@sarban1653]

@@thethirdman225 I think they're talking about adults competing in underage divisions cause "I identify as a teenager" or some BS.

[@necessaryJustice_4all]

What research is needed? 🤔

[@jct4418]

Great news for all humans.

[@thedubwhisperer2157]

That this even a conversation in 2023 says so much about current societal values...

[@shannonparcell357]

Awesome. This is a huge step forward. It's upsetting that this was even an issue in the first place, but there you go. This is a huge win for women and girls. ❤

[@MeMe-lx2jw]

YES!!!!!!! Hopefully there will be a full ban on all men in all women's sports to follow. Enough of this craziness.

[@anitachopping]

Why don't they just compet against each other? A separate category

[@stegosaur9812]

defo a win for common sense

[@gratefulmann6692]

That is fabulous, TGs should have their own ridiculous sport system, leave real folk alone

[@LittleGhost_16]

So you’re saying that trans people aren’t real? Because if you are, I beg to differ, and so does science.

[@silver4831]

@@LittleGhost_16 Probably not the page to gets any support.

[@Beekind799]

its impossable for a male to become a female ,its impossable for a female to become a male,i am a molecular genetacist ,both sexes are progressive and non reversable

[@Beekind799]

@@LittleGhost_16 what science is that then,oh you mean psychiatry

[@lauryn7840]

​@@LittleGhost_16 I don't think they meant it the way you are thinking.I think what they are trying to say by "real" is people who aren't cosplaying as another gender.People who are living as the gender they truly are.

[@bunga_renda]

Agree 👍👍👍

[@speakthetruth5308]

Why did it take so long to do what is right?

[@billhunter2300]

Amazed me that they reported on the news that this decision is controversial 😂

[@cuprashoe]

Isn't for me, it is The Guardian after all

[@alanmalcheski8882]

there's no Definite proof that they have an advantage (males who identify as females) besides the fact that genetic males put up higher numbers in most or all sports than genetic females. Oh and the fact that there are no trans men athletes who were born female breaking records in their sports is another, like, confusing thing that makes sense when you realize that those trans men are just modest and don't like to show off. Even as men they're better than men.

[@thethirdman225]

It’s also a bad decision that makes WA look transphobic.

[@yinsolaya]

@@thethirdman225 Gonna cry?

[@thethirdman225]

@@yinsolaya Nope.

[@navalav8r520]

THANK YOU! IT'S ABOUT TIME!

[@allierazaktisu]

thank goodness

[@bamboosho0t]

What would happen otherwise is a transgender woman would drop the 100M into a 10.10 time. FloJo's 10.49 hasn't been broken since 1988, so a 10.10 by a natural-at-birth female would never be broken.

[@tarp-grommet]

Finally! Took you long enough.

[@cuprashoe]

**Breaking News** Men can't compete in women's sport, Updates soon

[@Mijax_05]

its really cruel to call trans woman men but it doesnt change the fact that you dont get any woman for that matter

[@colourful7070]

​@@Mijax_05Trans women will never be the same as cis women

[@lauryn7840]

​@@Mijax_05 But they are......

[@thesuperostrich]

@@Mijax_05biologically they are not women though

[@Ihatethewaythatyou]

Finally, letting the mentally ill run rampant.

[@lewislee9201]

This is the right step, but should have completely banned male participation im female athletics. The ban concerns only those who have gone through male puberty. This could result in pressure being put on younger children to 'transition', what a BS word.

[@michaelnealis1926]

This is amazing! Protect real women ❤

[@FT3S]

Wild how we got here as people 😅

[@delynnel]

Thank you.

[@robinharris7368]

Let trans people compete with each other in sports

[@madwonder4025]

A win for decency and common sense!!!

[@williamhoward77wh]

Get their own category

[@timehaley]

There's no need to ban trans men from men's sport. Wonder why? Duh.

[@deborasmr4u897]

Just create their own category

[@jonohoffman5034]

If someone wants to do this research, it better not be paid for by tax dollars. It needs to be paid for on a private business level

[@DavidGreen-oc4nv]

Common sense

[@projectdusk9186]

Except my comment, the two recent comments in this thread should sum up what should've been the case when it comes to women's athletics and competition.

[@FootieWootieDingDong]

At last.

[@johnwalker5206]

It's just common sense 👏👏👏

[@thethirdman225]

Says someone who obviously doesn’t know what the rules were before this…

[@yinsolaya]

@@thethirdman225 Still crying?

[@thethirdman225]

@@yinsolaya Nope. Never was.

[@yinsolaya]

@@thethirdman225 You are. Cope more. :)

[@shopshop1971]

@@thethirdman225 keep crying

[@bennysnod4928]

How did they deal with this in the 17 hundreds years ago?

[@kossonar2663]

Trans athletes were already banned so I really don't understand this news lol

[@nicorednose]

YESS

[@richardclark9897]

This should never been allowed to happen in the first place it’s just common sense

[@thethirdman225]

Except that this had nothing to do with ‘common sense’. Look up the 2019 regulations and look at what happened to those trans women who refused to take testosterone reducing drugs. They are banned. No need for a blanket ban. That’s just discrimination.

[@yinsolaya]

​@thethirdman225 Oh you mean like your precious Semenya? The same one who made a woman have a baby? Cope.

[@wpetersejt]

The best decision!

[@gss6531]

Finallyyyyy.

[@Srocap2477]

Que hagan competencias entre personas trans, para no excluirlas.

[@alanmalcheski8882]

Lol now that's convoluted. They're different but the same but too different to do the same things, but the same. Respect the Science!

[@theTruthLifeNWay]

Always great when Logic, Reason and Facts win the day

[@rosaalcala5914]

At last, I hope they keep this desicions.

[@rudatheboy]

Finally common sense. Thankfully women can now go back to competing on a level playing field.

[@jcdg0509]

YES! FINALLY!

[@livingstonekot757]

Finally, some sensible and logical decisions by a sports body..!!!

[@WI-FI_GOD]

This is juicy

[@markmcgarvey40]

Applause. Common sense

[@ghanalarteh3872]

I like this decision and please come up with a program for transgender people only thank you.

[@renepeconka7665]

Great news for now

[@karenmcmeekan6810]

At last, fairness in sport for all! Now Let the trans compete against trans!

[@garrygrip]

Rare W

[@mandurahmum123]

Thankfully common sense prevails

[@acehood9953]

Where's the lgtv hate brigade ?

[@transcendbeing]

They will overload TikTok with bs probably Jeffery marsh and that other guy who dresses up as a girl.

[@transcendbeing]

I said it. Remember me.

[@kriztoppa]

Where’s equality?

[@ramsari3811]

An easy target

[@alffuergregor]

NO!!!!! They can compete in THEIR own group!!!

[@precisionleadthrowing4628]

i "love" how youtube keeps the likes artificially low (judging by the comments) - it's so obvious it's not funny

[@deepelements]

Thank you to everyone involved in putting a stop to this madness.

[@maximumtrollerable]

*MEGALIKE*

[@savvoss]

One small step for mankind 👍

[@aorjarsrelaxingvideos6126]

Yes finally!

[@Hephzibah444]

Well done! Common sense prevails.

[@skylineXpert]

They should have asked for an open category long time ago. Because if this ban is made after talks with governing bodies, the UN and activist groups then...

[@infamoussean7431]

As a dude why tf did this take so long? Seems like basic common sense

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

As a dude?😂

[@alanalymon3164]

Bravo!!!

[@mgopatir]

Respect Sir We have respect on whatever you a doing now

[@pxxbuch6523]

Why has this taken so long? Why did the powers that be, take the position of allowing and recognising that transgender women take part in womens sports?? Do they recognise the damage that has been done so far?

[@ra20sha]

Finally some common sense.

[@spruceandhemlock]

A sane man speaks up for women 👏🏼

[@nadhirahaidit7621]

Finally🎉

[@frankfeng4728]

What about trans men?

[@od5699]

Establishing a working group to tell if a man is man and a woman is a woman. Goody, goody, more money for my rich friends?

[@MiyukiZero]

Yes. Justice. Why not make a trans category?

[@xwrtk]

They have already but some coaches and reps regular leagues have complained as they needed the trans athletes in order to meet quotas. We’ve had countries that needed trans athletes just to participate in the Olympics for quota requirements. These countries didn’t even place or barely placed so most people didn’t look into it.

[@riazhoque8312]

Well done for being fair to real women … 👏🏾👏🏾…..

[@thethirdman225]

And deliberately discriminating against a class of people who always get the worst deal. The 2019 regulations were working. There was no need for this. Women were already protected and the proof is easy to find. Google ‘Caster Semenya’ and ‘Aminatou Seyni’.

[@yinsolaya]

@@thethirdman225 Gonna cry?

[@yinsolaya]

Also Semenya knocked a woman up with a baby. Lol.

[@thethirdman225]

@@yinsolaya Nope.

[@gilldavis742]

@@thethirdman225 Keep crying

[@kaelanskinner8298]

About time

[@annepill7543]

Well done to World Athletics 👏👏👏.

[@AmyK007]

👏👏👏