World building an EPIC Anarchist Fantasy World!

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

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[@Gentleman_Viking]

Hi there, I'm a big fan of the series, your previous videos on fantasy worldbuilding have been very informative and entertaining. I am also an Anarchist, and I'd like to give some feedback. Firstly; I think you did a great job covering what Anarchy is in a fair and unbiased way, very few who aren't invested in Anarchist theory bother to explain it and usually end up conflating it with chaos or with Socialism,(Which is related but different), so thank you for actually taking the time to explain what Anarchy actually is. I only really have a small note about your explanation of Anarchy, Namely that you mentioned the abolition of private property, which is fundamental to non-capitalist production, but there should be a quick reminder that there is a difference in the ideology between Private property(Industrial buildings, farm equipment, and other means of production) and Personal property (Your toothbrush, your clothes, most sundry items you would use day-to-day) It doesn't need to be explained in depth, but it can be a bit misleading to not explain that by saying "Abolish private property" Anarchists do NOT mean "We're going to take your toothbrush". Also thank you for recommending Zoe Baker, her channel is a good starting point if you want to learn about Anarchism, though when getting your philosophy from KZbin, one should always take it with a grain of salt. In my D&D setting, I have 2 Anarchic societies that operate quite differently; First is the Githzerai, who have an innate psionic ability which not only allows them to psychically manipulate the world around them, but also allows they instant telepathic communication with each other, forming something like a hive-mind or a built-in species-wide internet. This networking allows them to each participate in policymaking in a direct way, as well as to pool their psychic energy in order to keep their home stable in the elemental plane of chaos where they live. Second is the Duergar, or dwarves who inhabit the Underdark, a sort of hollow-earth type place beneath the main world. The were originally normal Dwarves, who were captured, experimented on and twisted by Mind Flayers who were trying to create a subservient slave race, but badly underestimated the Dwarves' ability to adapt as well as their mental fortitude, which led to the Duergar rising up and liberating themselves, but with no way to escape the subterranean realm the found themselves in. As a culture, the Duergar adopted the philosophy that their gods had abandoned them, so they formed an iconoclastic society made up of a vast constellation of autonomous towns and provinces, where each self-governing area has it's own customs and they form regional councils to discuss larger issues. Once again, thank you. This video has been excellent.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

You are welcome :) I should have mentioned the private property vs personal property thing. The same applies to socialism. People generally think socialists are going to seize their homes, but it's not about personal property that people use.

[@Dahveed1982]

@@JustInTimeWorlds private property IS personal property. Anarchy is literally Latin for “no-rulers”. That’s it. It means we own ourselves and the property we justly acquired. There is a contrast between anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-socialists but we both respect the basic human right of individuals to live their lives as they wish so long as they don’t aggress upon others. Zero abandonment of private property. In fact the complete opposite; no one, not even the government, can take your stuff.

[@ronecotex]

On a more comical side I'm imagining these meetings you have one person there to represent the meeting with another community then you have the community on Zoom emotions are high on imagining people talking to each other screaming at each other comedy gold

[@ronecotex]

Magic contracts would be perfect for this setting Community organizers from abusing their power

[@TheMichaellathrop]

Alternatively they could be an incredibly abusable method, did the fine print say you couldn't badmouth me? When I got my roof redone the company had pretty good reviews not great but none of them were bad, BUT the contract specified that I couldn't leave negative reviews and frankly my experience with them wasn't very good. So what if that guy writing the magical contracts starts slipping in clauses that benefit him in the fine print, so now even though the public get's to vote on the proposals put forth by the council I have them ensorcelled so that both options your voting between benefit me?

[@ronecotex]

That would be a good story plot

[@ronecotex]

In Social pressure in a small community can prevent that

[@Arnsteel634]

@@TheMichaellathrop sounds like the terms and conditions of most software and services these days

[@TheMichaellathrop]

@@Arnsteel634 Imagine if the WoW terms and conditions back in the early 2k's had included a demonic third party soul contract trading our souls to one of the lords of hell for the benefit of the Blizzard executives.

[@katiekofemug]

Research Rabbit Holes are like chocolate - hard to resist, tasty and fun, but soon you start feeling slightly ill from the overload. That said, two, five or ten years later, you find yourself digging through scraps of paper trying to find that "for later" note you made.... >g

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Too often too true haha

[@zhadebarnet3773]

Seriously loving your content, friend 🧡

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Thanks :)

[@dahuntre]

As a bug and fantasy enthusiast, I think an anarchist ant/bee/termite/wasp society would be fitting and cool. People intuitively make ant kingdoms because of their “queen” and pseudo-civilization eusocial colonies. But the monarch title is a misnomer; she never gives orders to her workers. She does search for the best spot to found the colony and creates all the workers, which are vital, but there’s no hierarchy. Workers behave based on their “programming”/instincts which collectively creates systems of foraging, defense, etc. Each individual acts in a way that benefits the whole. Though it’s more like they’re programmed to individually want what’s best for the whole - much different than the programming/instincts of a solitary animal like a spider or bear. So as another comment said, maybe ant-people as a species would be programmed for their “selfish” individual desires to incidentally benefit the whole. Add the fact that they’re 97-99% female, and their matriarchal anarchy would be quite the foil to a standard patriarchal monarchy. Besides, I can’t just NOT include a society of buff women!

[@PjotrFrank]

Fascinating topic. Thanks for this refreshing alternative to the ever present fantasy kingdom and empire tropes.

[@bobobo672]

Wonderful video! You've just earned a new subscriber! As an anarchist and lover of fantasy and sci-fi myself, it's refreshing to hear about examples of fantasy and sci-fi leterature that don't just use the same old monarchy/evil empire we've grown so accustomed to. I absolutely loved the mention of the spanish anarcho-syndicalist C.N.T - F.A.I., and the ukranian black army of Makhnovschina, though I personally think that it'd be even better if you used not just historical, but also contemporary examples of anarchism, such as AANES in Rojava, or the Zapatistas in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as a distinction between an anarchist and an anarchic society; Anarchist society being one that was formed as a rebellion against a hierarchical society, and an anarchic society being one that simply never developed hierarchy to begin with (the best example of this to my knowledge being the Mbuti people in the Congo, who have lived an anarchic way of life as far back as the age of the pharohs in egypt all the way till today -- they do interact with their surrounding states, they just actively choose to remain anarchic). About the idea of a counter revolution, I have a hard time with it in particular, since, while there are many historical examples of counter revolutions in communist, liberal, and fascist societies (whether attempted or successful), there is no historical example that I know of for counter revolution in an anarchist society (including the Zapatistas which have been around for around 40 years by now). Which kinda makes sense, I think that trying to reinstate a state in an anarchist society would be like trying to reinstate a divine god-king in the US, but maybe it's possible, I've seen people advocate for stranger things (the internet is a weird place), though historically, again, most anarchist failures were caused by outside forces, rather than inside struggles. And speaking of outside forces, the two examples of contemporary anarchist experiments I gave above -- AANES in Rojava and the Zapatistas in Chiapas Mexico, are currently under threat of invasion (Zapatistas by the government of Mexico, and AANES by Turkey) and both chose two VERY DIFFERENT tactics to deal with it, with AANES becoming more militarilly centralized (kinda like the ukrainian anarchists in THEIR revolution), and the Zapatistas becoming EVEN MORE DECENTRALIZED as a way to make sure that even if one post falls, it wouldn't give the Mexican government anything, when it comes to defeating the Zapatistas. I don't really know which approach is better, since both are still ongoing conflicts, but both these approaches give interesting ideas to fiction about this topic. Once again, great vid! You're awesome

[@idiotandco.1750]

The better quote for Anarchism is, imo, one from Bakunin: "But the people will feel no better if the stick with which they are being beaten is labeled 'the people’s stick.'" The peoples stick. Fuck, it cracks me up every time.

[@nascenticity]

this video has given me a new confidence boost about writing an anarchist (or at least anarchist-adjacent) society in fantasy! there are just so many fun ideas to explore. also, i think you might actually understand anarchism better than some anarchists! your comment about the community splitting off into two groups to try two different systems is in my opinion an example of a critical component of anarchism that a lot of people miss - freedom of association. people tend to think of A Community as a static, singular thing that *must* come to a single, agreed upon solution to every problem; which seems really difficult and intimidating because it *is*. more recent anarchist thought emphasizes the importance of experimentation and fluidity in making sure that everyone’s voices have a chance to be heard. some good sources for anyone who’s curious are the writings of David Graeber and the youtube channel of @andrewism.

[@chaz916gaming]

Thought Provoking! TY..👍

[@carinaelliott9020]

"Country of Ghosts" by Margaret Killjoy, is a book that uses fantasy to teach anarchic principles, it's very well written and has a good story

[@Gentleman_Viking]

I just read this. Definitely recommend!

[@BlytheSoul7271]

This video was fantastic! Considering that I always heard about anarchy in a bad or unrealistic light, this gave it a lot more depth and you not only gave real world examples, but also did the research to share fantasy worlds and how it could conceivably work in a fantasy world, pros and cons! Really helpful video and I look forward to putting the advice into practice as I continue on my own world building journey!!

[@teamozOFFICIAL]

I love this channel.

[@SomasAcademy]

~10:08 I'd also point to the Korean People's Association in Manchuria (KPAM) as a significant historical example, though that one is really hard to find information about, and in the modern day the Neo-Zapatistas in Chiapas, Mexico (though they aren't expressly Anarchist, I think their principles are Anarchistic enough to count), and the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES, also commonly called Rojava) are both interesting examples. The AANES especially has a lot of information about its ideology and organization online, so it's especially useful for research (and useful for comparing and contrasting with the 20th century examples, since they have pursued a different type of transition)! For inspiration for fantasy worldbuilding, I'd also suggest looking into examples like the Frisian Freedom, the Icelandic Commonwealth, and the Haudenosaunee; none of these are examples of ideological Anarchism, since all predate the concept, but they're great examples of Medieval/Early Modern forms of government that were somewhat more Anarchistic, especially useful if you want to create an Anarchistic society in a Medieval/Early Modern-inspired fantasy setting.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Great suggestions.

[@ashameimaru]

Oh man, this tracks really well with what I've been working on. With what I've been working on, historically, the world's history worked on a lot of anarchist principles of mutual-aid and direct action. Monarchial and imperial powers rose and fell, but they always ended up being subservient in some form to its people, and revolutions were pretty frequent. That pattern continued until the modern period, where a dictatorial power centralized power and caused so much anger to everyone else in the world and a world war was waged over that issue. At the end, it caused a complete restructure of governance: 1) It became a Direct Democracy at its core, however, for versatility (and due to a very large population), some legislative and executive power is done as a demarchy/sortition to help with world-wide level decisions, create general standards/guidelines, or to make snap decisions that could not be put to a vote fast enough. It is structured in a way where at the worse, if the people didn't like who was randomly selected, it was voted on and a new individual was randomly selected. This applied to everyone. These bodies were frequently rotated every few years, and on a rolling basis, so an individual would have power, for a time, and then return back to whatever they were doing previously. This sort of sortition was also done in a regional and local level as well, for those same purposes. 2) There is a bureaucracy, but more to standardize things and certain procedures (more akin to the International Organization of Standardization) whose goal is more to ensure everyone works with the same standards for technical expertise and manufacturing, as well as safety procedures. It's to ensure interoperability and allowing anyone to work with a framework that everyone agreed upon. It gathers experts, but they do not have ruling power: a standard may be changed if there is a direct vote to change it. More a body of expertise, but doesn't hold true authority other than "everyone agrees to use this standard." 3) Military power was retained, but mostly devolved to localized volunteer militias. There are trained expert matter individuals (commissioned officers) that will issue orders for purposes of organizing for larger or global external threats, but are always subject to possible recall. Furthermore, disobedience is built into the system, similar to how the modern German military is (Rule 154: where an order is not binding if it violates human dignity, if it's not of any use for service, or they cannot be reasonably expected to execute it. Refusal to obey is not in itself grounds for punishment). This results in officers always having to consider that disobedience is always a factor, so commands and orders should be thoughtfully put out. 4) There is still a certain amount of private property, but in proportion in responsibility. A small family farm run and operated by the family remained a small family farm, a small workshop or artisan that was done under a sole propertership or partnership still remained. However, larger entities are operated or organized as cooperatives, often as employee-owned cooperatives. (The traditional shareholding corporation does not exist here). The larger the entity, the more likely it is just owned/operated by its local community and its stakeholders as a whole. 5) A significant social net is created and there is a UBI. From there, it is up to the individual how they wish to advance forward. Hyperspecialization occurs as the greatest asset is to have "the right knowledge at the right time", although it is expected by the community to generally pitch-in for larger projects chosen by the local community itself. For some projects that require professional specialists, this is where if they are unable to find the expertise needed locally, a lottery is done to pull expertise from qualified individuals. That world war was so shocking to that world, that its people ensured that "the only legitimate power comes from the people" and did everything it could to ensure that it was kept that way. They ended up with Plato's belief of "Only those who do not seek power are qualified to hold it." So, hierarchical based power got nerfed so hard, that holding power is more seen as both a massive responsibility (and a liability) and if you mess up, you're out, and you're out quick. It causes interesting issues because they *are* facing an external threat, and having to figure out how to keep to principles, while preparing for that threat. Also my way of trying to pull sources had been difficult on how to exactly write it, so it's been of course a LOT of books, but the mentioned Zoe Baker, Andrewism (talks about Solarpunk alot) and Reeducation (is an anarcho-communist) had been pretty good to pull some information from for some of the aspects I needed. I really try to avoid debate-bros like Vaush though, since well .. ugh. Just can't lol. I don't have the spoons for that.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Your world sounds super interesting :D

[@lupuxlakeshire1066]

Hey, good video! I just want to throw in the case of Kowloon Walled City as a example for a anarchic society

[@ronecotex]

When it comes to community defense I imagine fortify Commons Mages could be armies of Their Own

[@ronecotex]

When it comes to Mages they could be on Army all by themselves reputations of power from the measures could make other nations back off

[@TheMichaellathrop]

So then why doesn't that army of one just put themselves on the throne?

[@ronecotex]

The way I imagined that is one mage who's extremely powerful like Superman he doesn't want to rule over them he wants to live his life within the community not all individuals seek power and domination a lot do but not all

[@Crista_Galli]

Thank you so much for this content! There is one more page of ukrainian history that may be a point of interest for you and your channel which i have found by chance and liked a lot. Zaporozhian Sich. Дякую!

[@ronecotex]

I think post-apocalypse would be a good setting we share resources or we die we get the water filter fixed or we die I think that would motivate everyone to work together

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

It would be interesting is a group of anarchists built a post apoc society on anarchy principles rather than the normal dystopian approach :)

[@6140LIBRA]

Anarchist would fight against against a Anarchist society once it was established.

[@pantheon777]

Ahahaha, the video I've been waiting for

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

I hope you enjoy it :)

[@teamozOFFICIAL]

Would you do a video on anti-rules? One of my 3 interlinked worlds isn't just anarchic in culture, but its laws of nature. The Dancing Lands is a chaotic paradise of floating island chains, rivers that run through the sky and a sun that sets at no particular time. When the more authoritative Mages push their luck too far with the Dancers and finally go to war, they expect it to be an easy win. They have magic after all, and in the Dancing Lands the magical 'veil' is thinner. But their magic has rules and the Dancing Lands does not. Warfare fought on a level that is incomprehensible to even the Mages minds. The mallubility of the magical forces also works against the Mage, whose fear and anxiety influences the realm around them, manifesting walls to put their back against. But the witty Dancers rarely kill. Because the living bury the dead, but the wounded bury the living.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

I'm not sure I could make a video about anti-rules. It would seem to be a thing that is pretty much unique to the world builder. I mean, isn't it just a place where there is chaos, random and unpredictable? Is that what you mean? A video on creating unpredictable effects?

[@teamozOFFICIAL]

@@JustInTimeWorlds Magic rules that exist to be later bent, broken or have loopholes.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Ahhh, yeah I see :) sure I can add that to the list.

[@yukikosan5468]

Have you heard of the Paris Commune? It's another example of an anarchist society, and unfortunately the communist societies we've seen are not really communist because they're so far removed from the idea of what communism really is. Whether it's China or Russia, they're far from being true communist countries.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

During my research I came across an interesting commentary on the topic of Russia etc not actually being communist states. (Can't remember where, so credit it to somewhere in bread tube). Basically, Marx stood by the statement that a nation must be industrialized before the revolution to reach communism. This wasn't the case for either Russia or China, they basically used a command economy in order to industrialize. And while this didn't give them a communist state, it did massively increase their economic industrialization, which is why everyone copied Russia's revolution, it was a way to industrialize without becoming dependent on western money. It was an interesting thought to play with. I do think there's more to it than that, like the raw ambition of some of the dictators and so on, but the industrialization through central planning is an interesting point. Anyway, long story short, you're right. In fact, the events in Russia exactly mirrored Kroptkin's (I think it was him?, one of the first Anarchists), predictions on how the attempt to reach communism would fail. (Oh and yeah, I did come across the Paris commune, but I thought the Spanish and Ukraine ones were better examples for what I was looking for :) )

[@dylanbuttera]

From my perspective there is only Anarchy. Consider the fact that every government in the world exists in a state of anarchy in relationship to all of the other governments. Or the fact that personal relationships are of ones choosing and those interactions are voluntary.

[@TheMichaellathrop]

There is also the question of how the community responds to mages specifically in a setting with a genetic magic system. After all if magic is an important means of production how can you let it be held by a small group of individual families. In that situation how do you keep from both violating the individual freedoms of those individuals and keep them from accumulating power to the point where the will become a de-facto if not established elite. Do you simply oppress the mage minority, let them become elites, banish them from the community and only trade with them as outsiders, find some way to encourage them to interbreed with the non-magical population to the point where you might have a few bloodlines of strong mages who are now first or second cousins to literally everyone else?

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Genetic magic systems always have interesting interactions with the social structures :D

[@wednes3day]

Hey uhh I tend to really enjoy your insights and learn a lot from them and am probably not the best to explain this. That said, the AI (I think?) cover art for this video makes it almost impossible for me to watch in good conscience. I also ran into a similar issue with another recent video I found one of the pictures on the thumbnail super cute and would have wanted to look up the artist, but as far as I've been able to see they're not credited. Did you at least get their permission to use the art they spent potential days on? Those two combined give the impression that you're rather indifferent to stealing from visual artists without so much as doing the bare minimum due diligence to credit them or ask for their consent. You might as well also paste entire book scripts while you're at it. Please credit your artists. I hope I don't need to explain that for it to make sense. And since I am not the best to explain this myself, please look into the details of how AI art so far is pretty much always built on a foundation of theft on an insane scale (aka scraping works indiscriminately, licensing or consent or permission be damned). I've also seen it be commented on as impossible to do without being environmentally harmful which feels like a reasonable claim given the computing that needs to happen to generate it and comparing it to say the environmental costs of bitcoin mining. Please consider if these are things you want to represent in your actions. If the use of AI in this case was an accident, tracking down the original artists of works used would probably help with spotting that as well.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I tried multiple thumbnails for this video. This one, one with just text, and one with icons I had created (not drawn, created from stock images). Of the 3, this thumbnail won and yes, this one was AI generated. I generally don't use artists because I give away my content away for free and the videos don't generate nearly enough money to justify spending any money on creating the thumbnail, especially as a thumbnail I think is cool might not do well (I really thought that icon thumbnail would win. I was wrong, it did the worst of the three. And I spent hours on those icons). I use a combination of stock images, movie images (where relevant) and AI. If I used an actual artists image, I would credit them. I don't because I once used a royalty free image (with proper accreditation) and the artists tried to get a lawyer to shake me down for $700, claiming that I'd used the image without copyright, despite the fact that it was available on royalty free sites. Because of that, I only use what I can verify I have commercial rights to use. AI is currently defined as unable to be copyrightable, so any person can use any AI image generated by anyone. Frankly, it's safer for me to use AI than to risk getting involved in another battle with an artist from a royalty free website. If you feel you can't support that, I understand, but the long and the short of it is that this channel does not make enough money to justify a thumbnail artist and until the videos do well enough to justify it, I simply can't afford an artist for thumbnails. And yet, I have to compete with all the thumbnails on KZbin. So here we are.

[@BlytheSoul7271]

​@@JustInTimeWorlds This is really unfortunate to hear.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

​@@BlytheSoul7271 To be honest, it's occasionally disheartening lol. So KZbin has this A/B testing thing. And because I am trying to get my thumbnail game high enough to gain traction, I try different thumbnails often, especially while the video is rotating on the KZbin feed. So, I'll create a thumbnail using either art I own or stock images and canva + paint.net. And then I'll generate some AI images and use that as the second thumbnail. And then maybe I'll do a third (for this one, I actually paid someone on Fiverr for the just text version to see if it worked better, so this video's profitability is currently at -$15 with no sign that it's going to earn out right now). And then the AI wins.

[@BlytheSoul7271]

@@JustInTimeWorlds This feels like such a tough spot for you to be in, just like it's a tough spot for those of us against the use of AI. I love your content so much. Not that I've shown it more than watching and liking videos. And seeing it that way it becomes an unhealthy cycle.

[@manuelmoran9554]

Jajjajajaj funtional anarchy, thats fantasy literature no doubt

[@johnmichaelcule8423]

If anarchy was a good idea, Somalia and Haiti would be major tourist attractions. My primary worry about large scale anarchy is that I don't see any way that it doesn't turn into warlordism. Also I know from Union meetings back in the 1980s that only some people love direct democracy and the play of egos with no constraints. You might be able to show a magical form of technology that made anarchy workable... But I don't konw what it might be or whether the society would look like ours enough to allow players to enter into it. I never think it wise to take political groups on their own view, their own justifications for what they are selling. With long established political practices you can at least point at the failures (and to be fair the successes) that history reveals. But with utopian projects you only have their proposals not any record. I think that easily available group powered magic that is stronger than individual magic might indeed make a difference. It is a a major althernative to the traditonal view of magic. What attracts you to such a society as a story telling element? Let me recommend to you Graydon Sanders Commonweal series of fantasy. It is largely about the contest of an egalitarian representative democracy trying to survice in a world dominated by individual socerers of godlike power and no sense of mroality.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

Anarchy in this case is not lawlessness. The laws of the community should be decided on by the community is the principle. There have been rare examples of functioning anarchies in our history (as I mention in the video), but more importantly, a fantasy author might choose to explore such a world to play with themes and storyline I mention in the video. Topics like can such a world exist? Are we innately drawn to hierarchy? Etc. I don't want to live in a kingdom, but I often use kingdoms in fantasy because they also offer themes that are interesting to explore. The question of what government to apply in a fantasy world isn't about wish fulfillment (though I guess that could enter into it). For me, the question is, what thematic elements do I want to explore and what is the best government type to support my theme.

[@johnmichaelcule8423]

@@JustInTimeWorlds Well, as I said, that's the advertising material for anarchy not necessarily the reality. There would still be people who had the power to make the rules: there just wouldn't be any reason for anyone to obey them. And the people who weren't happy could go and find somewhere to set up according to their own idea... Which is no problem except for the people alrady living there. The rihgt of the people working in an industry to control that industry sounds good except for the fact that some people know what they;re doing and some shouldn;t be trusted to run a whelk stall. And the ones who do know what they're doing are quite capable of doing things that help their industry and bugger everyone else. Even if all power derives from the will of the people, different people will have different desires, plans and priorities and the overall good of the culture has to have priority. (See the perennial fight between the power of the federal government and the power of the states in the US.) Which brings us back to a hierarchy of power again, I think my suspension of disbelief would be less strained if your anarchy was part of a non-human culture who had different social reflexes and sense of themselves from humans. The contrast between elven society and human society would work if you imagine your elves as not respecting any hierarchy at all. (Who needs hierarchy when you live in trees?)

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

It's up the world builder to make those decision (how they integrate anarchy if they chose to use it). I don't dictate how other people world build, I'm just giving ideas and I think Anarchy, or lack of hierarchy if you prefer, offers a lot of interesting elements to the world builder. How they integrate it into their fantastical world (where there might be dragons or bird people or wizards or whatever other weird things), is up to them. I don't think people can actually use elemental magic, but one of my super popular videos is about integrating elemental magic into a fantasy world. By contrast, a culture that is not focused on hierarchy does not seem nearly as far fetched as one where people can throw fire out of their fingertips. As I said, I don't have a dog in the real world philosophical fight, I'm not an anarchist. I'm offering ideas by drawing on interesting political elements. In much the same way, I might offer alchemy as a magic system. I'm not an alchemist either. That doesn't devalue alchemy as an idea for a fantasy world builder to play around with.

[@mathmusicandlooks]

This has largely validated my worldbuilding of a couple of small, homogeneous anarchic villages in my D&D campaign. One is functions very well, internally at least. They people are collectively very mindful of one another and their needs. They have a leader on in name only, who acts as a liaison to appease the overarching government towards their unorthodox lifestyle. They lack of use of money has drained their economy, though, which puts heavy strain on relationships with neighboring communities. Their biggest saving grace is one member has discovered how to create minor healing potions (a VERY rare and valuable resource in the world!), so his allegiance, well-being, and access to resources have become critical components to maintaining the freedom of the town. The neighboring anarchic town has quickly devolved into a mobocracy. Silent turf wars between the different suburbs happen under the surface constantly, even while everybody (man, woman, and child) walks around town armed to the teeth with weapons and a false smile, constantly affirming “we are free!”

[@Amipotsophspond]

so a lot of the imposed principles and imposed restrictions only apply to commie anarchy. the only government we are in is the government in your mind, you can not help but be in anarchy because it is the default state that all governments exist in. see threw the lies to the brutality of reality, the means always justify what ever means because their is no justification but what you need for your self and your own morals. in theocratic anarchy oppressive detailed religious morals have taboos that individuals follow even when no cop is looking because God is watching or they are not a sociopath. in Anarcho-capitalism south Somalia pirate gangs have a emergent stock market where investors can invest in pirate raids, and reliability receive the correct share of profits. this is paying a thief to steal something for you, this philosophically breaks property rights pro and con false dilemma logical fallacy, and best shows the reality of actual anarchy, no you don't need a consistent restricted philosophy.

[@dylanbuttera]

Enjoyed the video. Imagine this though: ask an anarchist what anarchy is and you'll get different answers. I'm a market anarchist, property rights critically important, not to be abolished. You could sum anarchy up in a nutshell with "don't hurt people and don't take their stuff." Hierarchy isn't bad either. There is always hierarchy no matter what. Also worker and boss relationship isn't oppressive if you're free to choose another route. Lastly, Vaush is a creep.

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

I didn't watch much of Vaush's stuff. He's a debate bro, which isn't useful to me when I'm researching. I should really have specified that I'm talking about I guess classical anarchism here? As defined by critique of Marxism. Glad you enjoyed the video :D

[@josephallen3014]

A completely free market in support of labor exploitation? That sounds like anarcho-capitalism which is the furthest thing from what anarchists support.

[@DreamersOfReality]

Worker and boss relationships are inherently oppressive. It's all about means and ends. If you end up with one boss, there will always be more. The conditions that create them will see them conquer society. The "freedom" to choose your master is not actually freedom.

[@redknight808]

I watched a lot of anarcho capitalist vids years ago. People owned their land and decided how to exploit it for their own benefit. Imagine different laws, tariffs, and taxes every 5 miles down the non-public road you drove. Absolute nightmare material. I point it out, because part of anarchy is no one dictating the rules. There would be a communist coomune over here and a corporate enclave over here and no one gets to say what works, because anarchy. WOOOW... The anarchy army of Ukrain sounds increadibly bad. There would never be any secret planning, no one would ever want to be an officer, and the smartest tactician has no more voice than the least educated dullard. Absolute fail. This would never survive a military campaign. As soon as things got hard -- a forced march! -- the army would be lost, one way or another. *facepalm*6

[@camiloraap]

@@redknight808 so wrong

[@JustInTimeWorlds]

So, in this video I stuck to the classic anarchy, not anarcho capitalist, which is a very different thing from classic anarchy. In classic anarchy, you would have laws voted on by the communities and you wouldn't have capitalist communities because the means of production is always owned by the community, otherwise, it isn't anarchy according to the classic definitions. I should have specified that I'm only talking about classic anarchy. Regarding the military, the Ukraine army actually worked pretty well when they weren't dealing with a united Russia. All the soldiers were there voluntarily and endured the hardships of war because they believed in the cause. They held off attacks from both the white and the red Russians during the civil war that followed the revolution. The problem came when a united Russia turned on them. Russia has a lot of bodies and Tsarist, Communist or Oligarchy, they've always been good at throwing bodies at the problem. Without additional support, the Ukraine army couldn't hold.

[@DreamersOfReality]

Anarcho capitalism isn't anarchism. They stole our name, but believe in none of the core ideas that we do.