World Chess Candidates 2018 | Berlin | Round 5 - Aronian v Grischuk

[@PowerPlayChess]

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[@tharkanzox1493]

Such complex and interesting games. Definitely one of the best tournaments in years (so far) and as usual Professor King’s coverage is amazing!

[@skmmcj]

I really appreciate all the work you do, and I find that your commentary is excellent and provides great insight to the thinking of the players. I have a small request, though. Could you maybe do a bit of commentary for the rest of the games in each round as well? I get that it's a lot of work, and I don't expect a full video for every game, but maybe 5 minutes in total to summarize what happend in the other games and potential key moments or positions? It would be very helpful.

[@novakennak3835]

Yes! Just finished watching your video on round 4 and saw this beauty appear on my KZbin timeline! Nice!

[@paulscott3114]

terrific analysis

[@GRENKEChess]

Chaos on the board. Emotional and tactical rollercoaster for both players.

[@bernard00g]

Great review. Thank you for not mentioning the other results until after you finished the analysis.

[@KillianDefaoite]

What a swashbuckling game! Thanks for the awesome analysis!

[@simeyD]

Most complex game so far. Amazing attempt at covering this game Dan. Cheers mate.

[@vaibhavrajput2284]

I read somewhere that Kramnik once said "It is hardest to win a won position in chess". So true in this game

[@zahirruh]

You do a great job by explaining these great games. Thank you!

[@rexdaileg6573]

this tourney is a testament to how Carlsen is in a whole different level. I have never seen such inconsistency from top level players of recent times. Sure, Carlsen blunders from time to time but not multiple times in one game.

[@johnstdm1]

It's interesting that you mention this. I think that Carlsen blunders much less often because he seemingly goes to great lengths to explicitly avoid these sort of positions. Recently, I was watching a live stream of Carlsen playing blitz, and the position became exceptionally sharp with minor pieces all over an open board. Carlsen's comment live was something like, "Ugh, I have to be careful here. This isn't the sort of chess that I like." Of course, he won the game in good style, but I think that he typically uses his calculation power to make the game a more positional discussion of structure and activity, where he gets long-term chances and thus reduces the likelihood of a one-move blunder (i.e. loss). @DanielKing, could you comment on this?

[@harshalpatil_611]

This shows chess depths !!! Even both 2780+ players also can't evaluate properly every position!

[@percybyssheshelly]

Love your commentary. Very informative.

[@plywoodcarjohnson5412]

Amazing. And the advice to all creative players that slips away in the end! Quit creativity when u have achieved sth!!! Dont go for the next masterpiece of combinations. It's over! You are done! Start the "one threat moves" . Grab a pawn. Do nothing! Have a glass of water! Question the arbiters outfit.

[@RbAgsts718]

great analysis

[@reddevilkev]

I can't understand why Aronian didn't take the bishop with check

[@ipudisciple]

I'll have a go. After 29. Qxc8+ Kh7 the queen has to move (rook on h8) and has “no squares” because 30. Qc5 is met with ... Ne4 and white loses a rook. There’s also 30. Rd8 Rxd8 31. Qxd8 Ne6 32. Qany fxe3 to consider. With 29. Qd8 Kh7 white has 30. Qxg5 and white gets a (different) minor piece with fewer complications. This analysis is wrong, as Daniel points out, but if Levon was thinking something, then surely this was it.

[@commonone7551]

I understand it far too well

[@justinwr092]

This has been a great tournament so far. By great I mean entertaining. I'm sure some of the guys aren't happy with their play, but there have been some immensely fun games to watch and dramatic outcomes. I just hope it all leads to a memorable WC in November.

[@mariusdafunk]

Impossible to see some of those variations - as Daniel pointed out. However, I am flabbergasted about Aronian's 28.Qd8 ... I mean , what did he see there?

[@danielfcastro]

Ghosts.

[@rhalleballe]

He probably wanted to grab the knight on g5 (instead the bishop c8), but totally overlooked that his rook on d6 is "hanging" after black moves Qf8. Thats what i believe, of course i dont know actually.

[@AlainLafleche1]

Thanks Daniel, great explanations !!

[@melodychest9020]

Aronian is cleary still recovering from his shock defeat against Kramnik I think. He is a great creative 'artist' like player but loses the flow at critical times. This is a pity as he has been doing so well prior to this tournament. I am still rooting for him and hope he gets back on the horse. Chess is a cruel game for sure! Daniel King is the only commentator in my opinion that really delivers in complex games for under 2000 players. The best in the business!

[@lemoncake7565]

very interesting game, thanks

[@DiegoHavenstein]

Wow... This one is a real mess!!

[@johnkom2339]

Tactical craziness but as so often happens in tactical melees, a draw resulted.

[@midnightcaller200]

the last couple of videos that I have watched, I have heard jets in the back ground,do you live near a airport?

[@robocop6444]

...or John Travoltas neighbour.

[@uberhikari]

People should watch the press conference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5iZiJiXrql2i8k, and skip to 7:22. For people wondering why Aronian never played 29. Qxc8+, apparently he never saw the move. I find this hard to believe because Aronian claimed that he saw 28. Rxg4 fxg4 29. Rd6 Qf5 30. Bd3 Ne4 31. Rd8+ Kh7 32. Qe7, and thought that this was easily winning. However, if he saw that 28. Rxg4 was winning, then he should have seen that 29. Qxc8+ is winning because the same tactical motif comes up in this line: 29. Qxc8 Kh7 30. Qxc5 Ne4 31. Rxg4 Nxc5 32. Rxh4 Kg8 33. Rd8+ I'm still stunned that the best tactical player on the planet missed taking a full piece with check.

[@old_nox]

Thanks a lot

[@flolupo]

Winning a rook and three minor pieces against the KING doesn't seem to be such a good deal to me :)

[@Badbentham]

As a fellow timetrouble`er myself I really dislike Levon`s (basically non-existent) time management: How complicated, or good, or bad, his position may be: He always acts incredibly fast. ;) In my book it already nearly cost him (sadly) one point in this tournament: Confronted with Kramnik`s 7...Rg8!, some very deep thought was appropriate, to possibly (not guaranteed) save the game. While here, apart from long castles, in a "high sense" ( obviously not regarding the complications afterwards ;) ) the logical move, instead of Rd1 , at least burning (lots of) time for regaining his mind, to finally take the bishop on c8 with his queen, was certainly the preferred course of action. From the two "sicknesses" , Grischuk`s ultimate addiction to time scrambles, and Aronian`s apparent impulsivity, I would actually always take the former. ;) In this game, Blumenfeld`s Rule (a re-formulated "Occam`s Razor") kind of seems to apply: After doing your calculations, take a final check "through the eyes of a patzer" just before you make your move. - If necessary sit on your hands in the meantime, - just to control your emotions.... ;)

[@DansChessLounge]

wow, I have never seen a GM completely Blunder like this before... I know Aronian is heart-broken :(

[@michaeltang9393]

I don't understand why people love this tournament so much. This tournament has honestly been a mess of blunders and mistakes. This game was the pinnacle of making inexplicable moves. I can't imagine any of these players beating Carlsen if these games are an indication. Just ridiculously messy play from both sides and multiple candidates to be honest.

[@PowerPlayChess]

The reason I find this tournament compelling is that every player is totally invested in it. They are trying their best in every game, they know that second place means nothing; they are holding nothing back in terms of opening preparation. The whole atmosphere is completely different to a normal elite tournament where the players are well rewarded wherever they land, and somehow there isn't as much at stake. Perfect chess is quite boring, by the way...

[@yiuqwfj]

how are you?

[@peterpham2473]

Aronian keeps on making mistakes that can win him the game!

[@nikiss8]

always a bridesmaid...