World of Tanks - Centurion 7/1 - Gun Nut

I often get asked "Jingles, what's your favourite tank in WOT?" The answer to which is easy, the Centurion 7/1. The next question I get asked is "What's the best gun on it?" Not nearly as easy to answer...
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[@123eldest]

The Centurion 7/1 also happens to be the best looking tank in the game too.

[@noscopesallowed8128]

Nah. That goes to the E-75, the Hellcat, or the Tiger I.

[@Pakicetus_]

yeah

[@logicnotfound2502]

Max McTabish No Tiger II, Centurion 1, Centurion 7/1 or the M48 Patton

[@noscopesallowed8128]

Aaron Chudley E-75 looks like a Tiger II. Patton has a weird looking turret.

[@logicnotfound2502]

the tiger has a smaller turret and is slightly curved at the bottom of the turret and i mean the m46 patton

[@TehAlekzi]

Jingles mixing tanks quite much in this, calling AMX AC 48 as 50 Foch, T54E1 as T69 etc. and some gun sounds echo on the second clips commentary every time Jingles starts speaking

[@JOLY823]

I noticed that too lol

[@nathanielstanford3115]

I think the biggest historical impact of the Centurion was the introductions of the CV, which allowed soldiers to make tea without leaving the vehicle.

[@denislazar8703]

Well...i laugh at that

[@RitaGamer]

Im very close to the Patton but the stock Pershing is giving serious headaches (it bounces even sides of borsig), after watching you doing great matches with the centurion im seriously thinking about dropping the Patton grind and go for the british.

[@johngensler256]

Patton is worth it that things epic. Hi Rita!

[@onthebrink99]

The stock grind on the Centurion I is almost as bad as the stock Pershing

[@thunderbust5050]

marshmellow612 No, not really and its not for long. Rita Sobral I would actualling recommend going down both. I highly recommend the centurion Mark 1 and cromwell, No tank in the British Meds is horrible, Hi Rita!

[@MrPrayerSlayer]

DO NOT STOP. The M46 Patton is a great tank. the M48 is even better. Its well worth the grind.

[@thunderbust5050]

I skipped the 17 pounder due to me not having the Black Prince, I'm 5000 exp from the centurion 7/1. What upgrade series would you recommend on the Cent 7/1 ? Thanks for the replies

[@NavGTI]

I used the 20-pdr a while, and it's a great weapon, but my damage record was 4384. Then I unlocked the 105, and the very first game with an unknown weapon for me was 7486 damage and 7 kills :) The gun is just so much better because of the penetration. And the premium ammo is HESH, which is really useful. Also funny when people cry in chat "APCR noob" where you can answer "that's my normal ammo" :)

[@mikecimerian6913]

Your description of Centurion driving is exactly how Israeli used the Centurion (Sho't 105mm L7) during the initial Golan engagement in 1973. They used HESH ammunition. "During the invasion of the Syrian army into the Golan Heights during the Yom Kippur war, two damaged Centurion/Sho’t tanks engaged approximately 150 Syrian T-55/T-62 tanks. In the course of the following 30 hour tank battle, the two tanks knocked out over 60 tanks" -Wiki. Edit: they were the last surviving tanks from their brigade. Edit: I wonder if WoT will introduce the Sho't, (premium?) as the last upgrade to the Centurion.

[@korpen2713]

The main advantage of the 105 gun over the T-55/62:s were that the Centurions could fire accuratly at the T-55/62:s at ranges at about 1600m while the russian tanks had to get within 800-900 meters to have a chance at hitting the Centurions. That meant running the gauntlet for more than half a kilometer over open ground to even have a chance at hitting. I seem to recall that the british FN-troops in Korea also used the Centurion Mk. VII with 105mm gun and one veteran tanker said in a interview that they sometimes used the tank in the infantery support role and they fire across valleys at ranges at about a mile to take out bunkers on the far side by aiming for the machinegun slit. So... the L7 105 mm is and was a pretty good gun.

[@mikecimerian6913]

Jack Daw upgrades received by Sho't Kal tanks: new turret rotating mechanism new gun stabilizer new fire-control system Move from petrol to diesel. New engine Continental AVDS-1790-2A diesel engine and the Allison CD850-6 transmission. Same engine and transmission as the American M-60 by 1973 Israeli forces had these upgrades. Not the same Centurion anymore yet the same hull and gun. I found mentions and wishes for the Sho't variant on forums. This has the signature of a premium tank.

[@TheR00ndar]

"...you can't reliably rely on bouncing any shots whatsoever...." Oh Jingles, you so silly.

[@nasus1929]

i understand this quote, yet i cannot decipher it.

[@Hairysteed]

AMX 50 Foch = AC 48 T69 = T54E1 Acknowledge your Jingles derp moment (tm) with an annotation and we'll leave you alone! :)

[@sebastianjrgensen6499]

It was an Amx AC 48, and an T54E1. Not a Foch and a T69.

[@peekingduk]

Jingles you nub :3

[@Mancboy2000]

In his defense, those tanks do act like there predecessors/successors and they where added relatively recently.

[@666Branmuffin]

good thing no one give's a fuck

[@ingurlund9657]

Hello Jingles. You're talking about the 20 pounder and just a few days ago British Movietone put up this video on youtube. Search this title "20 POUNDER GUNS FOR CENTURIAN TANKS - NO SOUND". Some great history.

[@ParagonC9]

AC 48* T54E1* Not foch or T69 jingles xD

[@dmanbiker]

It makes his videos more entertaining when you count how many tanks he misidentifies in every video.

[@ParagonC9]

tho, it's was still a godly good video :D

[@sw96]

Dmanbiker It would make a good drinking game :D

[@Healthwise.]

+ParagonC9 hey guys so how are you all doing 2 years later :D life going good?

[@Healthwise.]

+Alexander Klein hey guys so how are you all doing 2 years later :D life going good?

[@candypaii]

Hello, Mighty Jingles! I would like to request you to increase the sound of your speech, because its soo hard to hear to at low volumes, I have to turn my speakers all the way to hear you clearly. On the phone, which is not a Big Volume box, I have trouble hearing you clearly. I know many people suffer from this, so I request you to please increase speech volume. Thumbs up please :)

[@candypaii]

My dad thinks using Headphones all the time is not healthy, Believe me, I have had trouble when he caught me using it to play High level sounding games, He just does not want me to use it other than to listen to music.. So yeah.

[@MrCheeseball90]

"You can't reliably rely on it" -Jingles

[@TheZdrack]

You also forgot about the view range the centurion gets. With optics and crew skills you can easily spot most tanks well over 400m away where you can then pick them off. The Cent is fantastic on maps like El Halluf where you can peek over a ridge, spot enemy tanks, shoot one of them, then back over the ridge while they start getting smacked by your allies.

[@JackyWLavaGolem23]

Woo! New Jingles video!

[@ExplodinMuffins]

Hey Jingles I just wanted to say that I realized during this video that you've gotten incredibly good at commentating. Keep up the good work :)

[@dazzate5731]

Jingles, what about the ISU-152 :D

[@TheLucreziia]

The Brit line every time for me Rita such fun tanks.Centurion and the 7/1 and the Cromwell well worth the grind.

[@Haglar6]

My friend accidentally platooned in his E50M and I was in my T18 and I killed a Centurion...

[@Rightygamer]

That would be me you killed...

[@Haglar6]

Rightygamer was it yesterday on sand river?

[@MrPivot9]

HaglarsCave YES IT WAS! OMG

[@Rightygamer]

HaglarsCave Sand River, 20 HP, I got tracked out in the open and you finished me off.

[@Haglar6]

Rightygamer hahahahhah yup that was it lol

[@Chownz]

I love the Brit line, true weak as armour, but rate of fire and accuracy makes up for it!!

[@leandroribeiro9462]

Thank you very much Jingles for the excelent videos you put in, continue the good work !!

[@Rman3196]

Not criticizing you or anything Jingles, but that "T69" is actually a T54E1 and that "AMX 50 Foch" is actually an AMX AC 48. Both tanks look similar to one another though, so I can see where you got muddled up :/

[@MrWwxxyy]

great vid Jingles! It's been a while since you did a proper garage review of a tank though, I miss those.

[@Brswing]

I find that the whole debate between the 20 Pounder vs 105 L7 is quite silly, for two reasons. #1. 20 pounder is a "medium tank" gun. The 105 isn't an MT gun, and neither is the Centurion, at least primarily. Now, one might say that the 20 pounder does more damage, because theoretically, it has more DPM. But let's think about this for a second. I could have the fastest firing cannon, or the largest alpha damage in the game, but if I don't pen the target and do damage, what's the point? And there it is. While other medium tanks need to flank in order to do their damage, you are able to face the most armored tanks there are and engage them from the front. Now, I am not saying that you should run out in front of people's guns, or not flank targets when you get the opportunity, but what I'm saying is you remain competitive in high tier matches as a whole. And that "low" DPM? As I recall, the fastest "rough" reload time is around 4.8 seconds on the 20 pounder, whereas the reload time on the L7 with vents and BiA is 9.9 seconds. With an ability to fire 13 rounds a minute (this is counting the first shot which does not take any time to reload) we come out to 2,990 avg DPM on the 20 pounder. The 105? With an ability to fire 7 rounds counting the first shot, we come out to 2,730 avg DPM. That means that you, on average, only have to hit 8 shots in order to do roughly 3,000 damage. Now, let's think about this. To do the same amount of damage, you have to continually engage a target in a very large tank that doesn't have much effective armor - you have to hit targets 14 times, and more often than not you will bounce a shot or two when firing at T10s, especially at long range. Finally, we get to the Centurion's armor. The Centurion is a master at making enemies rush shots when trying to shoot your turret. Let's say you are on a steep hill and you have to expose your hull to take the shot. You pop over, take your shot, and pull back quickly, exposing your turret and upper glassis at a very good angle - the shot bounces/misses because hull down positioning has very good synergy with the Centurion's armor. If you are popping out continuously to fire, you are creating more chances for enemies to shoot you. Although the Centurion's turret is a good one, it isn't up to spec with a lot of other turrets like a T32, for example. But, if you are using the 105, and shifting positions and popping off the radar after you shoot, you are effectively increasing the survivability of the Centurion, ESPECIALLY from artillery. Best defense from artillery? Repositioning and never appearing on the scope for long periods of time. Conclusion: 20 pounder is a gift from heaven when it comes to grinding the Centurion - it's a decent gun that makes the "grind" for the 105 painless. But, once you have the 105, that is the gun you should be using. It has better synergy with the Centurion, not to mention it keeps it competitive in virtually every aspect in a T10 match. Yea, the 20 pounder might have a higher reward if you are able to pen every shot you fire, but the risk to your tank is significantly higher, whereas the 105 lowers the risk to your tank and keeps the reward, reliably high.

[@stevenjohnstone5624]

Thanks for the advice jingles,I'm just about to unlock the 7/1 n was dreading what looked to be a horrible grind upto fully upgraded...feeling a lot more confident now!

[@SycoMantis]

Dammit jingles I really want the leopard 1 stop distracting me with other amazing tanks

[@alexbunka7117]

The penetration on the 20 pdr is better than that of the M46 pattons 105. But its nice to see that jingles and I have the two same favorite tanks!

[@JakeFTWBlue]

This vid was realy intertaining, keep it up!

[@JakeFTWBlue]

Gorgi Kalamernikov Wow i type too fast and someone is getting a orgasm for seeing it.

[@davidlarsson6998]

If you like that tank, you SHOULD try out the Leopard 1. It is AWESOME.

[@itsDavoBro]

Gotta love the GW Tiger calling the team noobs when he sat on a barely defended flank defended by two tanks with bad lines of sight and an enemy team with a three lights, on Murovanka of the magical forest no less.

[@Wikingermetall]

Damn Jingles, are you growing old? Confusing the T54E1 with a T69 and an AMX AC Mle 48 with a Foch? Geee... :)

[@ShadowFalcon]

So the Cent 7/2 (the Mk-7 with the L7 105mm gun) is your favorite tank, Jingles? What happened to the Leopard 1?

[@FluidLoneknight]

he doesn't own that currently

[@ShadowFalcon]

FluidLoneknight Ah bummer. He seemed to like it when he reviewed the 8.5 patch. Must've been the press-account days.

[@Trusteft]

I got my Centurion 7/1 last night. I have only the 20pounder unlocked and in the few games I played so far, WHAT A TANK! I liked the previous tank, enough to reconsider selling it, but I did end up selling it. This though, oh my, I am keeping it!

[@Leodinas300]

Ive tested this tank on the Test Server and its just great. I think I prefer the bigger gun because I tend not to play in platoons but this tank really motivated me to play the British Mediums :D

[@myblackminds5563]

Yeah good choice Jingles! ;) I like the Centurion Mk. 7/1 realy, cause of the flexebility, the very nice gun and the very good gundepression with the tough turret. Very good on almost all maps with a few hills.

[@MotherHen1967]

When I grow up(!), I so want to drive my 7/1 as good as that my old mukka.. nicely done sir.

[@trevorcollins3602]

- Centurion 7/1 HD model will appear in test 3, same goes for T-34/85 Please oh mighty jingles check out the HD model for the cent7/1 when test server 3 is up, so we can see this sexy beast in HD ( looking for a new desktop)

[@oscar2game]

jingles is actually a alien that doesnt age, he was just born a bit old

[@emperror85]

What if he was born old, but gets younger with time?

[@AMidgetWalrus]

When i first bought the tank i wondered why anyone would pass up the L1A1, but then i gave it some thought and realised that it has a very Comet-esque feel with the great dpm, lacklustre pen, and good reload time.

[@alphadogg64]

Lacklustre? Ha! It's still got great pen for a tier 9 med with either guns.

[@MistaLister]

I personally prefer the L7 105mm gun over the 20 pounder. The extra alpha damage means your survivability increases as you don't need to expose yourself as much in order to deal large amounts of damage. If you can stay alive longer and get yourself into positions where you can hit the enemy, the L7 will deal that damage.

[@15DEAN1995]

well i would certainy rather be using the 20 pounder (226 pen) to grind the centurion 7/1 rather than having to use the 88mm l71 (203 pen) to grind the e-50. i feel that the older meds in this game are completely outclassed in terms of guns to their newer counter parts for example the leopard pta, centurion 7/1 and type 61 have superior guns to the e-50, m46 patton and lorraine 40t. (i was going to say t-54 and then i remembered that a t-54 when it doesnt have enough pen becomes the heat-54 that will spam shells and pen everything its pointed at ive met heat-54s too many times that need the heat to pen the tier 7 tiger 1 with its "amazing armour")

[@nfb7777]

wah u telling me 100mm of flat armor isnt AMZAING!? ltp noob everyone knows u need heat for that

[@danielshipman5226]

I've never played any of the russian mediums..... How much pen on standard ammo for T-54??? I know their gold rounds have like 300 penn or something.....

[@pizzagolfer]

Daniel Shipman 202 regular 350 prem for te good gun

[@15DEAN1995]

there seriously needs to be some sort of limitation for gold rounds. whether means less experience gain for using them or reduced damage when using them in order to compensate for the stupid amounts of pen some guns get. either that or they look at the tiger and its gold rounds it only gets about an 18% (roughly) increase on its standard rounds (from 203mm to 237mm) so if all gold rounds were like this would the game be more balanced?

[@MadnerKami]

DEAN0GTO Yes.

[@guga912]

Is it only me or is this the third video where Jingles, has talked about the 7/1 for 20 mins comparing these guns.

[@rodice11ja]

Hey jingles, I got a special request for you. I'm a big fan of yours on the youtubes and I watch if not all, most of your world of tank shorts on here. I have even dug into the history of your channel to see some highlights. But now I've realized. You've never spot lighted my absolute favorite tank. My best, most done up tank is the American M7, I've had it since I started playing the game years back and would really like to see and hear your take on it. Any chance in the future of getting a spot light on it? Thanks, roDice.

[@Raptorx911]

The advantages that the 7/1 has over the Patton, as you just laid out Jingles, is a good illustration of power creep in this game. Let's not even mention the death star, but there is no reason the Patton's gun has to have shit aiming time and accuracy. It's a fucking top tier medium for gods sake.

[@ThatxOtherxDude]

You sir have convinced me to make my first teir 9 tank to go for the centurion 7/1

[@m0shene]

Great video Jingles! I'll have to try the British medium line myself, it seems like a blast... and that 105 mm gun seems a lot better than the guns the t-54 has, the only tier 9 medium i currently have, both in terms of penetration and alpha damage. Quick question: why does your gun fire sound differently in your videos then when i'm playing the game?

[@HayesIsTheWay]

How to watch Jingles' videos in an easy step by step. Step 1 Find a video by Jingles. Step 2 Open the video by jingles. Step 3 Pause the video. Step 4 Like, Favorite and Share the video by Jingles. Step 5 Resume the video. Step 6 Watch the whole video and enjoy every single bit of it.

[@flubbajubber3924]

dont you like how that G W tiger calls the team noobs while jingles, quickybaby and ike are playing :D

[@Chub-Chub_The_Third]

The nostalgia from watching these videos

[@Dumlen]

Funny thing about that 20 pounder is that it works really well on the Caernarvon aswell. Sure it doesnt fire as fast as on the centurion, but it's faster than most tier 8 heavy tank guns. Havent tried the 20 pounder on the conqueror, but I guess it fires even faster than it does on the Caernarvon.

[@Brswing]

Type B barrel at T8 still fires pretty quick, and it is quicker than the Type A, which the T8 Centurion Mk 1 gets.

[@MrLembnau]

the reason why the centurion uses APCR is because it has the same cannon as the leopard 1, the Royal Ordnance L7. wich is a rifled cannon.

[@Dricam]

Few things that you have forgot.dear Sir. First - M46 Patton don't have ammo rack in the front of tank, which can be really game breaking when you are using 105 mm on the Centurion. Second - almost 10 km/h difference in speed, means you can't even think in Centurion about going on the hill in Mines - for example - when in Patton you can at least try. Third - turret on Centurion is in the middle, which means its inferior - even with its gun depression - to M46 Patton. Forth - DPM, just D P M. Fifth - size of Centurion means you are spotted whey sooner then in M46 and with same view range, Patton is better spotter. In my opinion M46 Patton is better tank, because penetration and accuracy in this game is not the most important factor - same think like comparing Centurion with Pershing. Best regards.

[@Gurben]

Forth - DPM, just D P M.

[@Dricam]

***** According to tank-compare.com no, it doesn't. Centurion 7/1 - 2421.9 M46 Patton - 2515.5

[@Dricam]

***** It happens to the best of us :)

[@StabKingPro]

Man people are so pampered with all the new meds and their ultra high pen guns on tier 9. The 20 pounder has low pen you say. Last time i checked it had more pen than the 105mm on the patton. It even has more pen than the 105mm on the e50. How WoT has changed

[@connorpearson7513]

Your favourite tank isn't the TOG 2!?

[@Smigger97]

Jingles, the Centurion(s) are my favourite tanks also, but I love the FV4202 as it shares so many good things, and makes them better IMO, but will you be playing The Elder Scrolls: Online with say Quickybaby? I am yet too see the Might Jingles in an MMO ;)

[@ConorChaos]

You do realize he play's WoW........?

[@Smigger97]

ConorMcG Yes I do, his picture is THE Mighty Jingles from WoW, but we never see actual gameplay of Jingles playing MMO's, I just thought it would be good for people to watch.

[@xmasterchini6]

Adam15197 MMO means massive multilayer online ie: WORLD Of Tanks

[@TheOmniousWindWalke1]

***** It's because of clan battles, holding enemy territories, thus it is an MMO

[@Kenjis9965]

His avatar is from WoW lol...

[@GoblinatingGoblinator]

That gun is exactly why I love my Caernarvon

[@arildedvardbasmo490]

I was wondering when you were going to do another Centurion video.

[@platypusbaybee7969]

Videos like this make me excited to get the British mediums on 360

[@billqmao]

I thought you said it was the TOG 2...

[@ADirtyScrub]

I have to say the 20 pdr Type B is better and here is why. 1. The reload is just awful for a medium tank. With BIA, Vents, and Gun Rammer, the reload for the 105 is still 9.91 (10) seconds. 2. There are very few tanks/locations on tanks that the 105 can pen that the 20 pdr can't (Here I am thinking of the Maus' and E-100's lower plate) 3. In many cases, if the 105 misses, due to a rush shot, or bounces, you have 10 second reload until you can take the next shot. Whereas it is only 4.5 with the 20 4. Brawling capabilities. The 20 pdr can be great for brawling if the Cent is forced into CQB. ( On multiple occasions I have fought my way out of overwhelming odds) 5. The 105 is really only good for sniping and supporting due to reload. Which the 20 pdr is plenty capable of. Overall: The 20 pdr can do most things the 105 can with very few exceptions, but the pros of the 20 pdr will 95% of the time out weigh the pros of the 105. But hey it could just be my play style :P

[@dogballs70]

A review of the VK3002M would be great thanks

[@TheMelv999]

currently grinding up from the centurion 1 looking forward to getting the 7/1

[@stanleythedoggy]

Jingles, play the AMX-50B! I know you like it, (and I adore it too btw) so why not make a video about it?

[@soundslave]

50b is great. It loses all the time though because its not a real tier ten and cant carry idiot teams.

[@stanleythedoggy]

I really like autoloaders, and I can deal with long reloads. If only WoT grinds weren't so mind numbingly boring and prolonged.

[@OfficieelHD]

T57 Heavy is better

[@stanleythedoggy]

Gun is better, but the AMX is far faster and the gun is definitely dangerous too. I personally prefer the 50B.

[@stanleythedoggy]

I know, but the T57's armor isn't up to par with other well armored tier 10's, AND it's relatively slow. Besides, the AMX's speed lets you get behind enemies and unload your clip much more easily. Fits my play style more.

[@samharradence5689]

LOVE THIS TANK. Not as much as I love jingles vids tho!

[@TheTaskurapu]

Jingles! You're losing it.@6.18 the tank was not T69, but his big brother T54E1. And @6.51 the TD that shot you was not Foch but AMX AC 48! Anyway, no biggie. Keep up the good work, Jingles! :)

[@captdavid160]

I'm a bit confused on your comparison with the both 105's , Jingles. The 105 L7A1 has better pen and APCR but less DPM to the Patton but the aiming times are the same. Unless you talking about the 20-pdr when you were talking about the better aiming time. (The Patton 105 has better DPM then the 20-pdr too)

[@sarge5431]

What a gut the tog II I thought that was your favorite hell you gave one a rose and a card when you went to the bovington tank

[@bpdlr]

Can't wait til you take the plunge and buy the FV4202. I love mine. It's like the Centurion 7/1 on steroids.

[@MrArchebalde]

"Not bad for a stock tank..." Me in my first game in the T-54. Completely stock, except for what is leftover from T-44. 3k dmg and 3k spotting dmg, 5 kills.

[@CardCheckerStS]

I'm sorry, but the guys farming the "loser points," as you call them, were all very slow tanks - A Jg. Pz. E 100, a Maus, and an IS-4, all tanks that would never have made if back to the enemies - all the way across the map! - before they died. I'm sorry, Jingles, but your logic in this case if flawed.

[@CardCheckerStS]

Before anyone says it, yes, the IS-4 COULD have made it back (what with that 43 km/h speed limit), but the point still stands - the enemies would've died before any of them made it back.

[@CriseiC]

Those tanks get an exception beacause of their bad mobility

[@SaltySeabisc]

Jingles, in the 2nd game with the cent 7/1 i can hear the gunshots in the replay being picked up by your microphone when you speak before you fire, keep an eye on it. still loved the video though!

[@ruffianeo3418]

Looking forward for jingles playing the fv4202...get it already! The masses demand it! ;)

[@willytheekid]

Just got mine :) tough grind...but enjoyable, can't wait to get the 2nd 20punder and turret etc

[@ChefBrendan84]

Jingles always says "I'm not gonna complain" and then he does... lols

[@musiquepalmer8301]

I have to disagree with your thought that the 105 is for flanking etc and the 20 pounder is for sniping... thats literally the opposite of what i think, the 20 pounder has way better dpm and way lower pen, so therefor better for brawling and worse for sniping (you'll just bounce) and the 105 has shit dpm but amazing pen so good for sniping (youll bounce less) and bad for brawing and flanking ( poor dpm tanks are bad at brawling, like the leopard proto, it has basically same gun as the 105 and is shit at brawling because of poor armour and dpm, the ceturion also has poor armour and dpm with the 105)

[@charlesramsey8379]

wow jingles old favorite tank was the patton I love that tank!!!!

[@paevlus]

I think it's time for a new intro Jingles!

[@denden6316]

Last game was one of those rare moments where Jingles did more damage than quickybaby :3

[@kartikm24]

started grinding the cent because u recommend it, i thought the French suited my play style but i prefer this!

[@TheFlyingPineapple]

I never really liked 20-pounder. I always felt to really use the high DPM of the 20-pounder, you really need to be pressing the enemy hard with it, a lot of the time exposing yourself to get in that second shot, which isn't a good idea in a tank as slow and thinly armored as the Centurion 7. If the tank had the speed and was the size of a T54, I'd take the 20-pounder any time, but on the Cent I think the 105 is by far the better gun. As for sniping, I'd trade the DPM of the 20-pounder for the high pen of the 105, as you will be penetrating Tier 9/10's much more consistently, especially in front-on engagements. And as you said the velocity of the 20-pounder is also much lower as it doesn't fire APCR as standard, so you're going to need to lead you target a lot more, which can give you problems at longer ranges.

[@MadnerKami]

I made the following experience. The 20 Pounder, while by no means being a bad gun, excells in two situations: 1. The enemy is dumb and exposes himself way more than necessary or is completely overwhelmed, can't maintain cover and is factually already dead 2. You have plenty of targets to shoot at, which usually only happens when you are left alone and getting swarmed And World of Tanks being World of Tanks, Situation 1, most of the time, actually doesn't happen to you but the enemy team, creating Situation 2. Either way, the 20 Pounder isn't going to safe you or make much of a difference in either situation. The L7A1 won't change the situation either, but it will work considerably better under any other circumstances, especially when the teams are evenly matched in skill and maintaining cover/peek-a-booming is necessary. Plus, if you get the chance, you can HESH unsuspecting targets, creating the same DPM as with the 20 pounder.

[@27tinus]

Great vid and info on just a wicked good tank. *side note. Glad Sirfoch isn't stock :D

[@skyforer]

E-50M 4ever!

[@CivilCIA]

is has the old e50, is the e50m better at sniper or flanker?

[@Avalon304]

So.. by T69 and AMX 50 Foch you mean T54E1 and AMX AC 48 right?

[@dadiolego]

When did the centurion become your fave tank, I thought it was the E-75

[@KadettGames]

That 20 pounder is the reason I love the Caernarvon.

[@frederikskanal14]

my father were gunner in a centurion 7/1 many years ago :D

[@kennethflanders1621]

hey Jingles, you should try the ST-I I would love to see you get a few amazing games with it

[@hulk3077]

Can you pls make a tank garage tour video of all the tanks that you have

[@jjmillerPB69]

jingles!!!! do I review on the AX. I think you'd love it

[@TheSarahlouiseh]

James Miller I read ur mind when watching this vid .

[@RobotsGreatWar2]

When will you get the FV4202 Jingles? I love both the Centurion 7/1 and the FV4202 :)

[@The_MightyJingles]

Got it recently, not really feeling it yet, though. Give it time.

[@RobotsGreatWar2]

I think each tank has it's unique play style.. FV4202 losses that nice turret for some great speed and increase in rate of fire so that it can duck away after firing..(If the increased camo rating for being smaller than the 7/1 didn't help) :) Thanks for replying to my comment

[@jordanng8009]

BohemianEagle Jingles, did they nerf the turret armour on the 7/1?

[@TheSatisfactoryMeatstick]

Centurion "AXE" is coming to live soon. Hopefully they want nerf the crap out of it.

[@RobotsGreatWar2]

Hopefully? I hope not.. Britain needs a meta vehicle for tier 10.. not just vehicles we choose to play because they are obviously not top choice vehicles but just challenging to play..

[@m0num3ntal]

well actually jingles foch's gun was the type B Barrel 20pdr ;D

[@Kable472]

..Time to pay your taxes Jingles:)..

[@ethanfettes5871]

Jingles you forgot on the test server about the Chaffee turret remodel

[@sebastianjrgensen6499]

Jingles you forgot that the Type 61 gets APCR as standard too! :)

[@blair7737]

Loved the vid and I might want to go for the centurion myself😄

[@dylanculpepper5029]

10th keep em coming jingles

[@MrYeahbuddah]

This video came out on my bday :)

[@Messerschmidt109]

Gun nut is a good name for a series on wot and war thunder, just an idea

[@chriskid2056]

I like the M46 Patton a lot better than the Centurion 7/1 because it has better speed and mobility. Plus it looks a lot cooler in my opinion.

[@NotGnome123]

Since APC-R is the standard ammunition, does that mean you have to pay the price it would cost if it were premium or is it the price of regular old ammo?