World of Tanks - Jagdpanzer IV Tier 6 Tank Destroyer - Sneaky German B.....

[@mrcannotfindaname]

You should only use 75 long gun because being able to penetrate is far more important than having a large alpha but can't penetrate anything.

[@firstgalacticempire8928]

+mrcannotfindaname You mean the L70

[@init100]

I completely agree. If I had been grinding the JgPz IV today, I would definitely use the 75mm L70 gun. Sadly, I played this TD three years ago when I was a newbie, so I struggled with the joke known as the 88mm L56 gun.

[@thesabreferret]

I spent a while switching between them, but settled on the 88. You have to get used to having to use your stealth to get squishy targets in your sights, and once you master that, the higher DPM is more important than being able to get a few more shots penning in other situations. I can see why other people would stick to the 75 though...

[@CarolusR3x]

I have 3 masteries in my Jagdpanzer IV. The trick is to not use that shitty 88mm gun, use the L/70 75mm with a 110% loader and gun rammer and the thing becomes a poor-mans E25. It can reload in 3 seconds! I love the Jgdpz IV! :)

[@richardwilliams9627]

so do not use the 88 on it then

[@richardwilliams9627]

ok

[@benchingbull831]

Ze Doktor i also have a lot of mastary badges and i can tell you that you can cary the game with the 88.

[@CarolusR3x]

Benching Bull you can carry games, but the 88 is incredibly bouncy. It would depend on the tier that you're on, the L/56 88 is never going to penetrate an IS3 from the front at any range, or the side at long range. And IS3s, are common as all hell because, you know, Stalin.

[@janwitkowsky8787]

Was looking for that comment. With rammer, 100% crew and vents the RoF of the L/70 is so fast. Plus the better ammo capacity and better pen and better accuracy makes it more likely to keep the theoretical DPM.

[@vaderdarth8130]

Oh hell...I think Jagdpanzer IV is bloody great!

[@wrnchhead76]

I liked it also.

[@afoxinaviators4105]

My biggest problem with it is it only goes like 10kmh backwards. It can zoomy zoom a ton, but unless the enemy is slow, you're screwed when you try to pull back.

[@themightycongueror8383]

The Tiger could historically penetrate between 4-6 inches armor up to 1,000 meters away or more. In wot, it can't pen a KV-1 from 300 meters away. I love this game, but, really!?

[@workingonanames]

임지민 why Why

[@BillyOfTea]

Made my day to see Jingles Team Kill while I struggle with this POS.

[@josephrabaja5243]

The Jagdpanzer 4 is probably one of the comfortable tanks i've ever driven, once its fully upgraded, that is. I had problems dealing against enemy tanks at the front with the 88 but using the speed and the damage of the gun to get around the flanks of the enemy and it's heaven. I was eating heavy tanks on the same tier or higher like the russian is-3. This tank should be played as a support td not a frontliner like the su-100. You're the one who takes off the tracks of the enemy and give them the "shake" so that they're distracted, hopefully giving your team mates the initiative on pushing forward. Sorry to the folks who hated it. The more you hate the more you love. in my case, this thing rings true.

[@deadspace2121]

The Mighty Jingles, the most chill guy on youtube! PERIOD!

[@LostBeaver]

I just transitioned from using the Marder 2 to the Hetzer about a month ago and I'll say it, the Marder 2 is in my opinion, amazing.

[@firstgalacticempire8928]

+A Beaver Is this a video on the Marder II? no. It's a video on the Jagdpanzer. Only relevant comments

[@LostBeaver]

I was commenting on the fact that he mentioned that the Marder 2 is worse now than it was.

[@PotatoGunsRule]

He just blew that "fellow" player away! No hesitation, just turned around and blasted him. AWESOME.

[@blackopsbradley4]

Sorry jingles but we don't speak "Aussie" in New Zealand.. It's Australians who speak Aussie funny that.

[@SpartanFlyboy]

Jingles, you just saved me. I had the choice between a Churchill VII and a JagdPz IV. I saw this and am now the proud owner of a Churchill VII, and despite it being slow it's a very good tank!

[@NotMyName10]

I was at exact the same place with my Jagdpanzer and a Guy just begins to shoot at me because i was in his way

[@CommissarWibbles]

As an Australian viewer, I don't mind at all mate. That was a better go at the accent than the new Pacific Rim movie had. Also, love your vids - they're always informative and helpful.

[@Nitrus5]

Jingles, its obvious you do suffer with these Sh*t tanks. But the fact that you suffer so possibly we don't have to is what makes you my #1 KZbinr

[@thorium220]

Thanks for the review jingles, have been having trouble driving this tanks effectively on the grind to the jagdpanther.

[@Stahlwollvieh]

Interesting, I actually didn't enjoy the StuG all that much (thanks to the low alpha damage and lack of armor, combined with my noobish lack of skills), getting the Jpz IV after it was like a divine revelation... Suddenly it made sense and worked and I was doing pretty well in it. The accuracy and penetration is good enough to handle T6 and 7 games in my opinion, in T8 it just sucks balls.

[@Abensberg]

i was SO proud when i had my Jpz.4 in april 2011.... now its just a nice target :D

[@williamdeloach8613]

you mean to tell me that german machines are poorly modeled and misreprsented, no way, lol, that 88 punched holes through the KV 1 and t 34's in real life, fix your shit wargaming, and for god sake, quit being so fucking biased in favor of russian tanks

[@AttackPenguin666]

It does qq Jingles just shot at the tracks 24/7

[@jonathanchuhairy5793]

William DeLoach Jingles was wrong, the gun on the JgdPz IV 88 is the L/56, the gun on the Tiger is an 88 L/71

[@Lightning_Mike]

Jonathan Chuhairy No, that was the gun used on the Tiger II. The L/56 was used by the Tiger I

[@jonathanchuhairy5793]

oh yeah sorry dude thx for the info i just checked lol Demolition Mike

[@Lightning_Mike]

No problem ;)

[@Monty10501]

Your intro wasn't too bad Jingles, and this is coming from and aussie, very nice way of mixing things up.

[@Dies1r4e]

Did jingles forget that cammo nets exist? he seemed to avoid it with his mouse and not mention it for gear lol

[@EnSayne987]

I would imagine that camo nets would be a viable option, if it's supposed to be a "stealthy tank destroyer". Then again, he did mention it had a very good camo rating, but still..

[@gabrieldragos8384]

23:20 best moment ever, jingles is a legend!

[@zekhong]

145 mm buff to AP ammo will shine this td.

[@Towboatin]

Indeed. MUCH more reliable and less frustrating to use the short 88 now.

[@zekhong]

Captain Whisky Now,no question between 75 mm l70 vs short 88 ,which one is suppose to use.

[@megapet777]

Damn old jingles was menace xD teamkilling with press account. What a gigachad

[@outfit5103]

the 75 L70 works a lot better then the 88 its got more pen and its reload is pretty darn low

[@Tiberius11111111]

yea 75 L70 is even good on tier 7 medium tanks and its far superior then 8.8 om jagdpanzer

[@sidewinder1911]

Tiberius11111111 Good on tier 7 mediums? 135 damage is good? That's worse than the Panther's gun, which has slightly more alpha than that. Even the T-43's gun has more damage, albeit with 6 less penetration.

[@outfit5103]

sidewinder1911 alpha damage aint everything

[@sidewinder1911]

The penetration is quite bad as well, only surpassing the T-43's gun, which is practically tier 6 anyway.

[@outfit5103]

sidewinder1911 i agree the gun has no business on a tier 7 medium but for a tier 6 TD with great camo i think it fits well

[@runolistvelebitski2640]

Jpz 4 is now good with short 88 buff. It was good before with 75mm l70 gun.

[@methanbreather]

well, if wargaming would make german guns more 'realistic' nobody would ever play russian or american tanks ever again. And since they are from Minsk, they can not allow russian tanks look as bad as they really were.

[@kukluxkarl159]

+1 German engineering 4 ze win!

[@daltonpeters7381]

+methanbreather I know some of the Russian tds in real life had real good guns such as the ISU 152

[@thenozar7603]

+Karl Wiesmann yaaaa. German stiel is best fu ricoche. Vi vil vin on ze battlefield ya?

[@BigWheel.]

That moment when op forgets that franz took nearly a year to effectively deal with the KV

[@kukluxkarl159]

Just so you know. The ISU had a howiztzer...

[@The_MightyJingles]

That's the Sixth Sense Commander perk in action.

[@tuber976]

Well.. to me it's the best German TD. Why? Because it's quick and very stealthy, it allows you to do some very nasty shot at the beginning phase of the game from a long distance on enemies positioning - 2 to 5 hits are normal - and usually at the side of moving enemies, so most of them go through. You don't have to relocate, you're shooting from so far away, they're not looking in your direction, they won't spot you. Something e.g. the JPanther just can't do. That's 400-1000 damage. Then you start relocating, shoot once, immediately relocate. Don't try head on, you won't penetrate. If some scout comes along, stay hidden and let him pass and then, this thing turns fast, kill him from behind. Immediate pen, usually you get two shots and someone kills the scout with you. Take your time, put a hit or a spot here and them, stay alive and help your team mates. Game phase three, this thing does something the StuG just can't do. Play as a front line tank. Mostly, you still have 600 HP left, you're fast, stealthy, and a lot of your enemies will only have 200-400 HP left. So they're one to two shots. Go assault - and keep the gun aimed shortly above the ground before you and stay in low positions. If an enemy pops up, it's accurate enough without stopping or aiming to just shoot at 100m - 90% of the time you'll hit the lower plate with thin armor and go through. You might catch a bullet, but your second will come and kill him before he can give you a second shot. Easy to get 2, 3 kills here again. My favourite tank in the whole game. Don't have any clue why people hate it so much... guess it's playing style. And for all the fun it gives you an average 5000-10000 credits per game without premium.

[@ww2sniper555]

tuber976 maybe they buffed it?

[@tuber976]

★ ww2sniper555 ★ i guess so... especially the matchmaking makes a huge difference of course. mostly you have tier 6-7 battles and the thing is a killer. of course, tier 8 is already a challenge and 9 almost impossible, so with the old matchmaking..... well... :)

[@SiphonRayzar]

+tuber976 The main reason why people hate it is because of the mediocre guns it gets for its tier. Yeah, a high DPM is good, but only when you can pen and damage what you're shooting at. And unlike the other Tier 6 TDs, it doesn't have any real massive advantages over them, the Hellcat (and even the Jackson) are way faster, and have turrets, with better guns, the ARL v39 is probable worse overall, but it has great guns, same for the Churchill GC, the SU-100 has a massive alpha damage gun, and the AT8 can take and give punishment far better than the Jagpanzer IV. Not saying its absolute garbage, but compared to the Stug III and the Jagpanther, its worse off tier for tier.

[@tuber976]

+tuber976 Absolutely yes, the MM is the real difference. In 6 it's a killer, in 8 it's almost useless.

[@jenki3014]

+Siphon Rayzar i pen all the time

[@ShadowArcherGaming]

I feel you jingles been playing for three years. You have no idea how much premium ammo I've waisted just to pen the side of a tier 9

[@navacamal36]

wait, i'm doing it wrong if i'm getting shot at, then i'm doing a lot wrong in my matches

[@Albino382]

me too, i always get shoot at....

[@ert-wert]

I've never ever had a problem with 132mm of pen. Can't believe jingles of 4 years ago failed to realize how beautifully good the jagdpanzer was/is. The most underrated under dog EVER

[@ivnitroxb]

When you say matchmaking is bad...hell...try the Xbox Edition. Tier 8 tanks almost always get into 9 and 10 matches. It's disgusting trying to do stock grinds like my Pershing when Death Stars and T110E5 tanks are killing me. At tier 7, you would get in a tier 9 maybe 1 or 2/10 times. Tier 8, maybe 4 or 5/10 times, and you are top tier about 3/10 times. That goes to tier 8....where you get tier 10 4-5/10 times, tier 9 2-3/10 times, and you are top tier probably 1 or 2 times at most. Even at top tier the Pershing stock sucks. It's a major struggle.

[@xx_destructo_xxishere4629]

Yes but the console edition is a poor mans PC edition with that detection stuff without eagle I'm not saying I don't play it but it's much easier than PC

[@nuke2099]

xX_Destructo_Xx IsHere Tbh our 360 version needs to be more like the PC version apart from we will keep our detection thing :)

[@jesuschristhomeslice9492]

That's normal match making on the pc version.

[@xx_destructo_xxishere4629]

Allamericanlibertarian lol right WoT is like that no matter what version

[@justin_fajardo]

That is normal matchmaking dude get used to it.

[@The_MightyJingles]

I only had half a dozen APCR rounds, and most of those bounced at long range too.

[@xustavus]

this game is way too good for a free game

[@jwenting]

so support WG by getting a premium account and buying some gold once in a while :)

[@HarryvandeSunweb]

Premium tanks are even more fun to have

[@bricaix]

Thank you Jingles, I'm the guy in the Churchill III. I have binocular, that's why I was on the hill at the beginning of the game.

[@CitizenNerd]

is this still true ???? im debating (to myself) if its worth it i have the XP

[@ph4nt0m67]

Yes, but don't use the 8.8, use the gun you used on the StuG which is WAY better!

[@tristanspencer7865]

Ph4nt0m The 8.8 is great if you use it right. I do far better in the 8.8 than the other guns.

[@ph4nt0m67]

Tristan Spencer Well, it really depends on distanze. If you like to fight in close quarters then the 8.8 clearly has the edge, while the 75 is a very reliable sniperweapon.

[@redmike1617]

Svenn Martinsson nearly killed a tiger 2 with the 75mm by my lonesome

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

Ph4nt0m It really depends on playstyle. JgPz IV can be used either as a sniper, like StuG and then you should use the 75mm because you're gonna be shooting at the fronts of tanks, but the tank is mobile and stealthy enough to be used as a flanker, and in that case the 88mm gun is quite a lot better.

[@jamesoswald1732]

This is a great analysis video. I don't particularly care about one tank in particular per se, I like to hear how it compares to tanks in other nations, tanks above and below it in tier, how the gun compares, etc. As a n00bish player, I like info which lets me decide which way to grind and how to play various tanks.

[@kosmick-9305]

Seriously, has every one forgotten about the D in jagdpanzer!? Its not a silent d either! Its pronounced yagd-panzer! Not yag-panzer!

[@xy-iz1ir]

Savien Romero It's JagDpanzer. The D is NOT silent.

[@kosmick-9305]

Savien Romero​ dude, ffs I'm German and I did a degree in history, its my job to know these things, and don't say "oh you can't be German, because your so fluent in English" because its possible to be ambidextrous, plus I use auto correct

[@xy-iz1ir]

Savien Romero you're a shot troll. Three germans are telling you how it's pronounced. And yeah, being german and living in German means that you speak the language.

[@kosmick-9305]

Savien Romero um, sure? i have absolutely jack shit of an idea what your talking about, what the fuck do you need to capitalize for me? are that lost in the argument? and i bet you will start pointing out how stupid some of our sentences are, then refuse to give a reason why there stupid, or just dodge the question hm?

[@breandandalton8564]

Savien Romero You're referring us to the American forum for how to pronounce German? Here is what Duden (the most respected dictionary of the German language) has to say (www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Jagdpanzer) under Aussprache: Lautschrift: [ˈjaːktpant͜sɐ]

[@DtWolfwood]

I was expecting something incredible as this was the vid that got his press account removed but it was quite pedestrian. O wells, I don't play WoT but i like watching these vids for whatever reason. Keep on keepin' on Jingles. :D

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

3 years later, and this thing is still absolute shit. Still has terrible penetration, but to make matters worse there are quite a few popular tanks released since 2013 in tiers 6-8 that have armor you simply cannot defeat, even using APCR, or will easily one-shot you. I just finished grinding through this rubbish vehicle, and I think I am missing a few patches of hair after pulling it out in frustration. Especially memorable was bouncing an APCR round off the flat rear armor of a stationary tier 8 heavy at point blank range. I am going be hearing the announcer yelling that my shots didn't penetrate in my sleep, and I seriously worry that I now have such penetration anxiety I may not be able to perform next time I have the chance to get laid. Had I known this tank would be so ridiculously bad, I would have paid gold to skip it completely on my way down the German TD line. I suspect Wargaming hasn't fixed this POS tank for exactly that reason, and possibly as a way to sell premium ammo, cause you sure as hell won't be able to use silver and run this thing with APCR while saving up that huge chunk of cash you need to buy the next TD in the German line. And the final crowning chunk of steaming excrement on this pile of garbage that is this tank's "best" gun: Just like Jingles suspects I found the accuracy to be completely trollish. I missed fully aimed shots consistently that I thought impossible to miss. .34 accuracy my pale, pockmarked ass. Please, PLEASE whatever you do, save yourself a possible stroke or mental breakdown and avoid this thing like the plague.

[@MoustacheMage99]

Well this comment made me genuinely laugh out loud :) Well done!

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

Well, I'm glad you got some enjoyment out of it because laughing about how bad this tank's gun is will be about all the fun you can have with it. Even better: I bought the Jagdpanther (the next German TD in the line) before I also had the XP to buy it's third gun as well. Because I was in such a hurry to get away from the Jagdpanzer IV. Just so happens that it's second gun is the exact same beyond worthless gun mounted on the Jagdpanzer IV. I immediately sold the Jagdpanzer IV only to find this out, so I had to grind that [insert foul expletive] gun on my new Jagdpanther for days before getting the XP I needed to upgrade. This meant I was now encountering tier 9 tanks with the same gun I had trouble penetrating tier 5 tanks with. I believe myself to be sane and commenting on a WoT video, but it's entirely possible this experience has driven me completely batty and I am in an asylum somewhere babbling incoherently to myself whilst scribbling on the wall of a padded room with my own feces.

[@afoxinaviators4105]

I don't think it's THAT bad... I mean it's pretty terrible, but to be honest, the earlier German TD line is nothing but a joy, other nation's TD lines up until about that really suck. It's kind of a trade-off.

[@fireshorts5789]

I ended up rage selling the Jagdpanther because I did the same thing and had to grind out the experience for the long 88 with the short one, while getting tier 9 matches. Still haven't bought it back yet, gonna just grind the experience for that gun on the Nashorn since its a tier lower, making the short 88 a lot more manageable. I'd highly recommend that to anyone that hasn't researched the Jagdpanther AND the long 88 yet.

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

You know Marshall, your right about a lot of country's TDs not being that great at lower tiers, but that isn't really a factor here. While not great, almost all of them can still at least reliably pen what they hit, and you are often facing less skilled opponents at lower tiers. The M3 Lee is abysmal down at tier 4, probably the worst tank in the game, but as you go up in tier power creep starts to set in and having a bad gun and poor armor gets to be more and more of a liability. MOST other TDs up to this point from any country can still pen reliably a tier or two higher than themselves, provided you may have to sprinkle a little gold in from time to time. But since the Jagdpanzer 4 already has pen problems at it's own tier, you get the perfect shitstorm in higher tier matches. Your useless in a tier 8 match. A crappy tier 8 light tank can drive up and sit still in front of you, bounce all your shots, wreck your ass, and drive off laughing. That's why it's so bad.

[@jackgirote9132]

I love this tank. You have to play it like the stugg. Its a sniper, hide in a bush and lay down the fire. I cant pen frontal armour on tier 7 and 8's but, get on the flanks and you can pen anything. I like both the 88 and the 75mm. This tank is so much fun. I always feel like I make an impact in games.

[@crides0]

Same. Sometimes even treat it as a medium :)

[@hax0r117]

Watch the team chat after Jingles teamkills the guy that was trying to get him killed. He starts swearing in Spanish or something lol Apparently Jingles is American XD

[@CrRaZzyX]

is italian, thats not spanish

[@hax0r117]

CrRaZzyX Hense "or something".

[@doubledouble4g379]

Well, off to the salt mines with him, I say! He should be honored that our Lord and Master wasted good ammo on him!

[@ZWIPPMANN]

Wow jingles. You just gave me new hope for going back to my jagdpanzer 4 to gring the jagdpanther...

[@pcmaster4145]

In the current build of the game (patch 9.2) the Jagdpanzer 4 is great even in a tier 7 match with the gun from the STUG III. the 75 mm works well at most ranges, is accurate enough to hit weak spots, and more importantly, with a good crew, can be reloaded faster than the 88. so far I've had a decent experience with the Jagdpanzer 4.

[@silverbooger]

Hearing you pick apart the arlv39 is hilarious every time I hear it.

[@davidhood8598]

the stug was not designed as a td it was mobile artillery and was manned by artillery crew, it only became a tank destroyer because it fell into that roll by default ie: the only machine left that might, or not, be able to defend against tanks on the eastern front.

[@XxXILIKECHEEZITSXxX]

The Mighty Jingles, you have to remeber, that the tiger 1s 88 gun was litterally a modified flak 36 (88 MM flak gun) and german records record that even the kv1 bounced that 88 at long ranges.

[@EnSayne987]

True. If you ask me he should have used the 75mm gun. It has the same length as the Panther's gun which did quite well historically, and would certainly penetrate a damn KV-1 in the game. So if the 75mm isn't a fucked up gun compared to its real version like the 88, get it.

[@Wolfogre]

As so many have said before me, I did quite well with the Jagdpanzer IV when I used the 75mm/L70 gun. And Camouflage is very much the skill you want as Jingles said.

[@MrNicholas89]

Jingles, in real life of WWII.Jagdpanzer IV is a good TD. Used in the Battle of the Bulge, Eastern Front, Normandy... The 88mm was supposed to fitted in the Jagdpanzer IV, but the turret won't hold on, plus decreased even more on your ammo.

[@The_MightyJingles]

I object. That Panzer III/IV clearly fell down the stairs, he wasn't TK'd.

[@BlackShark77TD]

Ok Jingles. You've convinced me to start grinding on this beast again. I least I have some better ideas on how to fight it. thanks

[@ImperialCommander97]

Right, got this tank yesterday. Started playing it and did the 4k xp grind (On the bottom tier 75mm, I assure you, that IS a grind) for the tracks. At which point, I mounted the 75mm top gun from the StuG, the usable radio and the top engine. Now: I love it. Literally just played a game where I got 6 kills (Top gun medal), sniper medal and, to my delight, a De Langlade's medal and ace tanker! Sure, the guns aren't as good as a Nashorn's (In my eyes), but it truly is one sneaky little bugger. Camo net, medium calibre gun rammer and a close to 100% crew (Retrained from the StuG, I'm not a gold noob :P ), I can pump out a round every 3.3 seconds with the 7,5cm Pak 42 L/70 (150mm avg. pen, 135 avg. damage) - close to the rate of fire of the E-25. As of yet, I don't have the 88mm, but I doubt I'll be using it. To conclude, I think that this tank has a bad reputation that it truly doesn't deserve. Anyone not already sold by Jingles, I assure you. This tank is VERY good, even if it does have low damage. It makes a very good sniper that can easily relocate. This thing SHREDS anything at or below its tier (KV-1S' are food for this thing; you can take a hit from a KV-1s and finish him off before he reloads)

[@eddiemac24]

True that.

[@user-pm5uq3li7s]

The gun is actually really good when paired with how low profile the tank is you can easily shoot at the lower glaesis and the speed makes this tank really good

[@dgareea31swtg]

I loved watching you shoot that D-BAG! I'd say 1 in 20 games makes me remark favorably on a sudden and unexpected meshing of teamwork. It's a good feeling, and makes the game worth playing. As for the historical accuracy? It's totally screwed... Tanks with fearsome reputations in real-life totally nerfed, and tanks never meant to fight each other doing battle constantly. That said, I am looking forward to the "historical battles!"

[@ultraesgrima]

There are two solutions to the tracks problem: the first one is to grind free xp in advance and unlock the tracks right away, the second to buy the enhanced suspension. The third option is to use the tank stock, and I wouldn't recommend it even to my worst enemy. The good part? Once you have the tracks you have the tank almost elited, since you inherit everything from the Stug but the 88mm. Hope Jingles hears us and someday do a second review with the 75, because it's a totally different tank :)

[@Bruuszlii]

Jingles you said you loved Paddy's vids. Well he is back! he made two vids already

[@martinaustin6230]

Use the 75 mm on this thing. Much more reliable

[@The_MightyJingles]

yep, you keep whatever equipment you mount.

[@RedRocky54]

It also depends on the crew and the battlefield. At short ranges, the German tanks lose a lot of their advantages. They are easier to be flanked towards the weak side armor, and the massive advantage their long range guns had is lost. At close range, it becomes a lot easier. For example, on Himmelsdorf a long time ago I acually managed to almost kill a KT in my T1 heavy, because I got behind it(and a bunch of TDs were around the corner in front of it). It's a game example, but you get the point.

[@KJlost]

I ground most of the EXP on this tank using the 8,8cm gun, and it can get the job done. 900 average damage per game isn't bad for a player of my caliber. The rate of fire and alpha can rip through tier 6 and under tanks pretty quickly. Tier 7 heavy tanks and tier 8 tanks in general will require you to be more sneaky. Some people will tell you to play like a medium because it has a gun that's more fitting of a medium tank. I agree with this thought. It's not as fast as some of the equal-tier medium, and lacks turret, but the camo rating on this TD can allow you to sneak into positions and remain undetected in unusually aggressive positions normal taken by sniping mediums. It just won't do the normal 'engage at long range' or 'derp 'em in the face' TD/assault gun business.

[@Reirtig56]

I honestly don't have problems with my flat panzer, you can normal penetrate a tier 8 even with the low penetration, I just aim for the neck of the turret and the lower plate, does around 250 damage every time. I don't ever have problems with the gun not performing. Also you can normally withstand around 5 shots at the front from tier 6 and above before you die

[@waltheryap6738]

Well, it's great, at least for now in 9.4. The 88mm allows me to so 2k+ dmg in tier 8 games just by sniping instead of assaulting.

[@CaimanAlphaFoxtrotMike]

That was so well executed :O i can never peform this well

[@awesomeguitarnoob]

I really liked this machine, dont remember what gun I used but I think the main difference was I played it very agressive, so the range didnt matter that much. Had ace tanker on it and was one of my favs, off course when I moved to the jgpanther it became obsolete, Im up to the jgtiger now and still keeping the jPaanther (and ofc the ferdinand)

[@Waterflux]

The final brawl with the Jagdtiger 88 made me laugh my ass off. I wonder how did the Jagdtiger 88 player feel once he suddenly found himself getting 'hugged' by Jagdpanzer IV. :D

[@Vnx]

I use the 75mm on this as well. It's not an ideal solution, the damage is lacking and the rate of fire can give your position away, but it's workable. The people who favor the 88 on this tend to play as more of a roving flanker than a stealthy sniper.

[@TheDireLynx]

The account used in this video is WoT_1_2, a World of Tanks press account, meaning that every single tank implemented in the game, minus a few tanks for some reason, is in the garage of that account, along with a ton of credits and gold. And a year-long premium account.

[@ultraesgrima]

Jingles, you HAVE to try the JagdPz IV with the 75mm gun, it looks counterintuitive but it isn't. You got better accuracy, better penetration and buffed rate of fire, with gun rammer and vents you can shoot every 3.29 sec, with BiA even faster, just like an autoloader with no end. I stopped playing this tank because of what it can be seen in your video, even in good games you bounce, bounce, bounce and bounce again. But I gave it a second chance with the 75 and I'm enjoying it a lot. Nice job ;)

[@TheVino3]

The "sh-sh..." at 16:23 is somehow incredibly hilarious

[@MegaTurtle11]

Pretty nice coincidence, your gunner's named 'Zorn', which means anger! I probably wouldn't have shot him, but I also never experienced the pain of driving a Panzerjäger IV!

[@LukewMorgan]

Bino's aren't "permanent", so you can freely move it between tanks. Other pieces of equipment though such as the gun rammers cost 10 gold to dismount from a tank. The equipment item will warn you when you buy it if it requires Gold to dismount.

[@MrMichaelpaul45]

Hello there Jingles, & wow what a battle, & taking on that 88 my God you did so well in that battle,i have watched a lot of your videos & i find them very informative & i appreciate all the info your offering to help someone like my self to play better & understand how sometimes best to use your tank,s.i only have a free account but i very much like playing this game.you have helped me & i thank you for that,:-).

[@omdtdz]

Good videos man, thanks.As far as the Marder goes I still like it, even with all the nerfs I still get good games with it.

[@human7331654]

The top gun on the tiger, and the one it historically used and everyone so rightly feared, was the 88 KwK 43 L/71. Both guns shoot the same round, but the gun on the Tiger has a longer barrel, and as a navy man, I'm sure you understand the ramifications of the length of barrel on a gun. Now in game, the Tiger does actually get that same gun as a step up to Long 88. Whether that's historical or not, or if that's just something the game designers did to force more playtime into the game idk.

[@IonoTheFanatics]

VK3601 has it in a fully traversing turret, significantly improving it's usability especially against tanks in which you have to fire the 88mm on the flank to penetrate at all. the turret also makes it much easier to track mobile targets which will often be the only target you can penetrate with the short 88mm when all the slow or static ones are too heavily armored and facing you. normally non turreted TD are given better gun than normal to compensate this, JPIV sadly does not have it.

[@allanstott6999]

It really is a highlight of my day to check YT and find another Jingles tank review. Have you done any Chinese armour yet?

[@AtemiRaven]

AT-2 can bounce a shot due to the 200 or so MM of armor. So it is a bit safer if you keep your front pointed. The Jagd PZ however will never bounce a shot from the 122 unless he hits a hardcap (over 70 degrees) angling and gets a bounce.

[@dunfalach]

I hated the JP4 throughout most of my use of it, until right near the end of my grind I started using it like a derping medium...slinking around corners to pop a close range blast into the side/rear of enemies engaged with something else, then backing around the corner before they could return fire. Based on the way it operates, I think they gave it an excessively fast bleed-off of its pen over range. At very close range, it's a beast, yet it becomes completely unreliable at medium range.

[@niklaseriksson3343]

I played this tank with the Stug III gun. Just because of the lack of penetration on the 88mm gun. You don't get the alpha damage but on the other hand it is better to do some damage than none.

[@Legion617]

Thank god the new German TD line came out, just researched the jagdpanzer 4 and I really didn't wanna go through it

[@Legion617]

I'm not wasting money just to get pass one tier, and certainly not spending a lot of time on one game to obtain over 40k XP

[@deathica3346]

I have this tank, I love it so much, I don't know why it's hated, I don't normally bounce unless I don't aim... And the gun is usually very good to me and very accurate... Hatch of an AT-7? Hit, hit, and another hit. And the DPM is sooo good...

[@ILikeTheThingsIDo]

Sometimes I simplify things a bit. 500 character limits don't help. The PaK 43 was a stationary version of the L/71 and that's the point I was making. You'd want to aim for weakspots at long ranges. Also at long ranges, if the KV-1 was properly angled, it wouldn't penetrate. The thing is, most Russian tank crews were inexperienced and poorly trained while the Germans had both experience and training. That's where it got it's reputation, from shooting at people who didn't know better.

[@Rhodiebert85]

Hey. I remember mostly using the 7,5 cm L70 gun on this TD. On the Jgd Pz 4 it fires even faster than on the StugIII and with the extra accuracy and penetration I felt like doing more demage than with the mediocore 88mm.

[@Maurin67]

Sometimes i really like the Jagdpanzer IV. Just had a Tier 7game with it and got mastery badge an 2'184 xp :)

[@MrAstrojensen]

Damn straight! The JgPzIV is a stunningly good machine! That 88mm gun is super awesome! I've got an average 68% hit ratio on it. In some games, it's better than 90% hit ratio! Long range? No problem! The "new" JgPzIV is as good as the StuG III, just with a bigger gun!

[@chrismorris9]

the struggle is real. Good to see it's not just me.

[@BestToBeAnonymous]

I'm actually enjoying the grind in the Jgpz IV! About 2/3 of the way, and enjoying every minute.

[@amaethon2117]

After the 88mm got a pen buff, using the 75mm L70 is basically redundant. Only 5mm pen difference.

[@MaiSent]

I remember grinding this thing before the mm rebalance.... I quite liked it, I even managed to kill a T30 with this thing.+ a boelter medal. Oh the memories... xD

[@samiamrg7]

I find that the this tank is like the M3 Lee, but with better guns, better armor, and a better profile, which is enough to make it decent.

[@hummellv6648]

It's actually quite good. Idk if i am doing it right, but i use the stealth of the machine to get close to the enemy and while they are distracted shooting at my teammates or in rare occasions yelling at everyone for either shooting gold at them or hacking, i just park close to them and make them shoot the gun mantlet which, according to tank inspector, is about 200mm of armor. Got 2 marks of excellence on my Jg.Pz.IV doing so. The M3 Lee... well, last time i played with it, it felt like trying to drive a giant toaster made out of plastic with a potato gun mounted on it, tho i might give it another try

[@Stalkerpanda1]

Thank you for the Marder II sympathy Jingles. Although, I've found that the 7.5cm r (the last gun for it) is fairly good in a tier 3 game.

[@balfouja151]

I loved your WH40K reference. Not gonna lie. :D "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!"

[@EmperorNefarious1]

It feels like the Jingles voice mod was almost entirely taken from this video

[@oxymornicalt]

Now several years later I prefer it over the hellcat for guns although I love the m18 speed and the 90 is phenomenal

[@DanDorugh]

yeah yeah the JgPzIV.. funny memories. I cried when it was time to switch to the Jagdpanther. Because of the relief, of course. And yes, you pronounced Panzerjäger correct :)

[@Laxyr]

I used the 8.8 on the JagdPz. IV for a while, got frustrated with it and switched to the 10.5 and HE ammo. You will be able to damage tanks from the front again and you will be able to put even Tier 7 heavy tanks in a world of hurt if you get them from the rear. So I personally would recommend switching to HE and the 105mm before using permium ammo on the crappy 88mm

[@sigma74205]

Watched this video while playing my Jagdpanzer IV. Ended up getting Poole's, Kolobanov, Invader, Defender, Spartan, Top Gun and Devestator.... Given my prior (lack of) performance with this tank, I think I'll be watching more of these videos while playing bad tank.

[@kaizer0187]

Agree!! I tend to have more success with the 75 rather than the 88 and i used it in the jagdpather too

[@LynxAmurie]

Related to the guns the JP4 can carry, I've decided to try it out with the 105 howitzer w/HEAT, and scumbag it up. If it works better than the 88 L/56 I will be surprised and upset.