World of Tanks || Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 - worth it?

World of Tanks - Kanonenjagdpanzer 105. Today we're looking at the new version of the T8 German tank destroyer, but is this a definitive upgrade?
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[@AwesomeEpicGuys]

This is how WG should make money. This tank is not op and you can pay extra for a sweet paint job that does not affect gameplay. And the fact that the owners of the 90mm version can trade it in is simply awesome. People should stop complaining and give WG some credit for finally listening to the community. The only thing we have against this release is the fact that it's yet another tier 8 premium tank. And there are plenty lf premium german TDs in the game as it is.

[@JeHXo]

You guys make awesome vids, keep it up!

[@TacoDraws]

Eyyy, I really liked your video on it.

[@pathofexile7529]

Give WG credit for not releasing OP premium? Omegalul

[@hyperdimensionbliss]

You don't congratulate them for doing what they should be doing in the first place. You don't congratulate your dog for not shitting on the carpet again.

[@bravehome4276]

HyperDimension Bliss You obviously haven’t trained many dogs.... 👏😍

[@vince.508]

1:21 268 mm Caliber gun? Jesus i think that was too big of a buff.

[@roboticrebel8153]

and the 268 pen is on HEP because wargaming needs to sell more op premiums

[@sirfrost2380]

Ahahah heard that too!

[@donza6261]

Lol. :D

[@nicestorm1425]

Kanonenjpz has now biggest gun in the game I guess. Gj WG a fast tiny T8 td with that big gun . Nah just kidding

[@kilroy314]

FANTASTIC

[@haxpet]

"I'm gonna push further in to the bush, activate my binoculars and see if we can get a little bit more action going" If this wasn't a WoT video you could be thinking QB is doing something completely different. :-)

[@pinochet3317]

lol

[@itsmemrnukki]

Whatever this tank can do, the Skorpion G can do better. Excuse me, the Russian TDs can do better.

[@yankee1376]

Yeah I think I'll wait on that SU 130 coming out

[@EnerGRules]

I pref the strv s1 than this. Better aim, sniper, dpm. U cant play aggresive in this thing

[@FlaviaPitariu]

The speed of this little guy is awesome. I love bombing around with the 90mm so this will just be more of the same

[@xXT560Xx]

"Whatever this tank can do, the Skorpion G can do better." Yikes, I highly disagree

[@1255XL]

Better safe your money for the upcoming soviet tier 8 premium TD with a turret and 530 alpha!

[@Kenji_KX]

I have no idea why I haven’t seen any KanonenJagdpanzer 105 reviews with a comparison to the sort of identical AMX Canon d‘ assault de 105... Is it because the AMX Cda 105 is a slower, sluggish tank destroyer? I mean it is still identical though. (These stats are maximized with skills/perks, equipment, and food.) 105mm armament with 390 alpha and high penetration: AMX Cda: 260/310/53 390/390/480 KanJpz 105 268/330/53 390/390/480 Excellent APCR shell velocities: AMX Cda 1525 m/s KanJpz 105 1478 m/s Negligible DPM: AMX Cda 2035.8 dpm KanJpz 105 1950 dpm Decent accuracy: AMX Cda 0.30 KanJpz 105 0.32 Relatively decent dispersion: AMX Cda … moving 0.21 … tank traverse 0.21 … turret traverse 0.10 … after firing 3.84 … damaged 1.92 KanJpz 105 moving 0.23 … tank traverse 0.23 … turret traverse 0.13 … after firing 3.84 … damaged 1.92 Similar gun elevation values: AMX Cda 20/-8 degrees KanJpz 105 15/-8 degrees Limited horizontal gun traverse tank destroyers: AMX Cda 10/10 degrees KanJpz 105 15/15 degrees Good top speeds: AMX Cda 55/-18 km/h KanJpz 105 70/-20 km/h Good Horsepower/Ton ratio: AMX Cda 26.79 hp/ton KanJpz 105 19.23 hp/ton Lower fire chances: AMX Cda 15% KanJpz 105 12% Similar health pool: AMX Cda 1000hp KanJpz 105 1050hp Almost as blind as Soviet/Chinese bats: AMX Cda 360m KanJpz 105 360m Lightweight: AMX Cda 26,880 kg KanJpz 105 26,000 kg I know the KanJpz 105 has paper armor 30/30/8 in comparison to the troll armor of the AMX Cda 100/40/30. I also know that the AMX Cda track traverse speed is an atrocious 29.20 degrees/sec compared to the 47.97 degrees/sec of the KanJpz 105. Then, there is the low profile of both vehicles, giving them good camo ratings. P.S. I think the KanJpz is basically a Spähpanzer Ru 251 pancake...

[@Kenji_KX]

Other than this the review was good. A 268mm gun won’t fit on a tank this small though. Lmfao, next biggest gun in WoT: non-artillery 26.8cm SchwererFeldHaubitze 67 L/40 derp howitzer light tank destroyer based on the Ru 251... HaubitzeJagdpanzer 268. Keep up your great channel QB.

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

I think the Jingles effect has rubbed off on him.

[@szcs95]

Imo the cda is probably better a bit, only because it's still mobile compared to most of the td's and the armor is effective against lower tiers, and can bounce some equal tier

[@peterpeterson4800]

I feel it's more like a leopard 1 without a turret and with shitty dpm. Otherwise, the mobility, the gun and the armor are the same.

[@RoadRunnerdn]

I think it's totally fine the paint job is locked behind a paywall. If anything this is exactly how WG should make money.

[@alphaniner3770]

fully agree here

[@metehankap3870]

Yup, I completely agree. I am fine with it as long as they dont force us to buy some gold or some shit just because we want a tank

[@CricketTheHivewing]

Yeah

[@xShaade]

It would still be behind a paywall if it was included in the standard bundle.

[@JustforlolzFYI]

I met a couple of them today. They were tasty...

[@CricketTheHivewing]

JustforlolzFYI ur here! :DDDDDD

[@stinkyllama]

I want your replays about how you ate them!!!! ❤

[@empire-classfirenationbatt2691]

I saw two but didn't fight them thankfully now with this video I'll know how to tackle them from now on

[@guvyygvuhh298]

KV-2s tasty snack. Another softy :3

[@FiddyBee]

Dude...qb...are you for real? how on earth did you not compare this one to the OTHER TIER 8 PREMIUM TANK DESTROYER WITH "105" IN ITS NAME...the amx cda 105...they pretty much identical...

[@sethsherlock9694]

Because WG wants contributors to try to SELL the tank... Reminding people of the existence of the AMX and it's terrible performance isn't going to boost sales.... Edit:. After looking up tank curves, the AMX cda actually does okay in good players hands and around 59% WR those players actually start to win more than their win rate. (Which makes sense, camo and vision abuse on a consistent basis is a hard thing to do, but once you GET it you can find ways to abuse the decent camo and mobility decently). However, for average or below WR players...you underperform relative to your overall stats. (With camo as main crutch, but Lower DPM and low armor, odds are without can abuse you are not going to do as well as say a skorpion or ISU)

[@ThePartick11]

Or even the s1

[@CricketTheHivewing]

Calm down

[@lordofthemorning4142]

deaths dentist I’m far from a Unicum player and I do exceptionally well in the AMX Cda 105. Aside from the the low hit points, It’s a pretty overpowered tank. I don’t understand why it got such a bad rap.

[@sethsherlock9694]

@@lordofthemorning4142 in what order did you play your tier 8 TDs? I see you have skorp, S1, AMX, and WZ. You perform second best in most fields while in the AMX, but you outperform the other 3 with the WZ in most positive stats by a decent mark and I'm just wondering how much of that is you improving as a player over time. Though the WZ is REALLY over performing which is another problem unto itself.

[@linnieo9717]

This is my favorite tank in all my TDs. Here are the reasons. 1.Thanks to its great camo, although TDs have -50% camo penalty while moving but this tank will be a great scout when all LTs and MTs in the both sides are out. Playing this tank makes me feel like playing a medium. 2.Very good shell speed with default APCR, makes you easier to hit ELC and EBRs. 3.Great moving speed. 4.With V-scope, you are also a good passive scout, my assist damage is often more than my total damage. 5.This tank really helps you to learn every different tanks' sight, you will learn a lot of about sight controlling which would makes you becoming a better player.

[@zackakai5173]

WG releases another Tier VIII German TD. In other breaking news, the Earth continues to go around the Sun.

[@cherryroy8247]

When people say this isn't as good/better the the Skorpion G, didn't you all say the Skorp is OP? If anything this is a good thing because this means WG is making balanced tanks, right?

[@edwardmsr]

so you are telling me this kpz105 is another amx cda 105

[@Damien_N]

it's a bit faster than the Cda, and less likely to miracle bounce anything.

Amx is much much better than this

[@mrcorn4581]

No...CDA is better only the mobility but believe me...cda is better

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Hah, a 1 HP collision, should be called a "lovebump" :)

[@devon4520]

Germans and those long technical words.... Kanonenjagdpanzer! Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251! Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausführung A! Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei! Wanna know the longest German word? Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz! aka "law for the delegation of monitoring beef labelling. So OCD

[@ekerhardtmuller73]

Ich glaube es gibt längere deutsche wörter

[@Jonas-ij4td]

@@ekerhardtmuller73 well you can add an infinite amount of words in german so yes of course

[@Wolf-zk8ey]

This comment made my brain bleed

[@ClydeC]

By the gods, german words needs space.. no wonder they invade Russia..

[@MrXxHunter]

@@ClydeC You don't need spaces for joined words

[@ewok40k]

biggest appeal is 268 basic ammo pen, so there will beseldom need for 2 key this will make your income much better and thats what the premiums are all about right?

[@danielrosales8565]

funny how quiky baby always says; ¡NEW TANK, GO BUY IT! lol

[@thelahs2923]

I'd rather buy red dead redemption 2.

[@DonJohn87_YT]

exactly, pricing for premium tanks are fucking ridiculous, and unless you have a premium account and/or personal reserves they don't make you that much credits either.

[@anotherrandomtexan25]

This times a million

[@empire-classfirenationbatt2691]

That's a whole game in itself lol so it's always worth it compared to one tank 😂😂😂

[@tristan7419]

The Lahs I was gonna buy the Lorraine but instead I saved up so I can buy ac odessy

[@jeremydewayneellis]

premium time is free if you do the weekend tournaments.

[@MrSpleenface]

Isn’t the Cda 105 the most obvious comparison? It seems to come up short there.

[@dvdraymond]

Well remember, we don't there to be anything like the Scorpion G again. So when I see the gun's improved over the old, but not Scorpion level, then I rejoice and say yay, good job.

[@brucalizer]

Nice vid QB, may have missed a trick in not comparing the vehicle to the CDA 105 though? This new version of the Kanonenjagdpanzer seems very similar to it, though I feel the CDA outclasses it in more ways than the other way round.

[@badger129]

imagine if the added as many standard tanks as they add premium tanks..

[@drunkcapybara7004]

Believe it or not, the game has 409 standard tanks and 173 premium tanks, i don't want to imagine 409 premium tanks

[@badger129]

I don't want to imagine 173 premium tanks.

[@Zergling.]

You dont need, already exist :)

[@badger129]

Don't remind me

[@OofBerry1]

Znake remind you of all the low tier premiums that you won’t meet as you don’t just seal club at low tier, right?

[@lucky0036]

Hy quiky baby can u make a video about the 110 chines hevy tank? You havent made a video about it in a long time

[@vecioalpin8998]

As I have the E25 and the Skorpion G I bought the basic version. In my opinion after 20 battles, I can say the following: when you are bottom tier the high pen is a big plus, so for the gun performance I would reccomend it! *** flexibility is probably somehow the weak point: in urban area you struggle to find a good position; the lack of armor doesn't allow you to sustain damage. * on big open maps that provide you cover, you can be really deadly as the camo paired with the gun is the real strengh of the tank! **** Money : is Always ok as long as you are able to do at least 1K damage. even if you lose the battle, you still earn silver.*** fun factor is very depending on map and team play. ** final advice: buy it only if you have a good crew with 3+ skill ! NB on the contrary of QB I use camo net instead of vents. It bring up the camo value to almost 64%. very useful on small scale maps like mines, paris, etc.

[@RedXlV]

Over here on the NA server, every package for the Kanonen 105 includes the black panther camo style. On the other hand, the barebones package is $47.99, which is equivalent to €41.70 or £36.89 at the current exchange rates. I don't know whether the other packages on NA are more expensive than their EU equivalents, and I don't care enough to check.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

First battle killed 5, did 2700 damage and made over 120K credits with premium. Yeppers. Worth it especially at the 50% off if you have the 90mm version.

[@ogmechsftw]

Now do the same thing with a Jadgtiger 105 so I can trade my useless Jt88 in...

[@stormbreaker3027]

Any chance you could make a review on the batchat 12t?

[@beavis4play]

i've had great success with the original Kanonenjagdpanzer on console - i''ll definitely pick this up when we get it this summer.

[@tryn3]

It is actually grate that you have to pay more for the black panther. I have no idea how ppl don't think that's a good idea. It's selling skins! Best way to not make the game pay to win.

[@Unknown_Source]

I like that there’s no music when you go over the stats anymore

[@marijnvanderlugt7120]

I want this tank SOOOOOO bad!!, Great review QB!

[@danielg2289]

its a nice one :) i like it

[@038alpha]

Get an amx CDA ;) it's the same

[@kilroy314]

true

[@mikkodoria4778]

waste of money unless you have the original to trade

[@agarcia8800]

I got a refund

[@andrewarmstrong5208]

So the Scorpion's 128mm gun has almost the same rate of fire as the 105mm gun? =/

[@1255XL]

Look at how much space there is in the Skorpion to load a shell compared to the Kanonen...

[@apertureemployee215]

To be fair, the skorpion is open topped and has waaaay more room inside to move around

[@1255XL]

@@apertureemployee215 why you're telling basically the same thing a second time?

[@apertureemployee215]

because that comment wasnt there when i posted?

[@user-ld3bl3lp7r]

Scorpion has the 105mm gun, Sir.

[@magecraft2]

I complain about WG when they mess up (a lot ) so must give them props when they do something right, no idea on the tank or original (never interested me as I had 2 premium German TD's) but the switch over deal looks a good one with the couple of options.

[@thegoodsmaster]

the first kano was a e25 with a severe handicap. but since the e25 will lose its plus 1 pref MM they are making a e25 at tier 8 in the kano2. all in all this and the skorpion G are gonna be nothing but gold spam

[@stipevrcan8779]

Hmmm Me:Is this gonna be the new e25 Comunity:No don't give them ideas Me:remembers that there is scorpion g

[@dedmanzero]

nope E25 infamous camo from the pre-nerf TD era plus it has armor this shit doesn't

[@Reckec]

That's why I bought the original Kanonenjpz. I missed getting the e25 and it was never coming back (Liar....WG , I bought the e25 when offered again) and the Knjpz, specced like a e25 w/Indinpnz 90mm gun. Then I played it... Hated it, and testers hated it. I felt cheated. But I may trade old for new and play a little.

[@nicholasdean3467]

No this tank has been out for years

[@Reckec]

@@nicholasdean3467 I've been playing the game since just after it went live. Ive played the 20,000+ games with a 50% win percentage. So, I'm no unicum, but I'm not a bad player. What's your point ?

[@blazingmatty123]

"you lightly brush against the VK, he is uncomfortable"

[@Wolf-zk8ey]

It's gotta L7 I'm looking into getting it, but this or the upcoming SU 130PM? Something like 560 alpha at tier 8 will put the Skorpion down to 2nd for alpha damage...

[@cataliniuga6619]

Nope that tank dosent have great accuracy and has a semi fully traversable turet. The alpha is great but the wz 111 gft with the same damage/shot isnt that great

[@Wolf-zk8ey]

@@cataliniuga6619 Thanks dude didn't know that

[@cataliniuga6619]

@@Wolf-zk8ey the firering arc shoud be just like the grille 15 one . The su130pm will aslo have decent mobility and good camo. It will be a nice premium but the skorpion will still be much flexible since it has a turret and nice accuracy.

[@lordofthemorning4142]

Wait a minute... Wargaming is adding a new premium tier 8 TD, with 560 alpha? They must have really been sick of not having the highest premium tank alpha at tier 8. Smh.

[@cataliniuga6619]

@@lordofthemorning4142 maybe they don't like the fact that the skorpion g is the most played tank so they made a russian semi skorpion g.

[@yaboiyosef7640]

This is what a German T8 prem td should be. Not brokenly op and looks so sexy especially with the camo. And why does qb seem to be complaining that this isn't as op as the skorp, shouldn't we all be happy

[@TheCardboardJedi]

Here on the NA there is no barebones option, Black Panther only plus bundle stuff starting at $47USD and going up all the way to almost $100USD. No way. I'll buy it if they offer just the tank, no frills.

[@greggo34]

$9.99 sounds good

[@Jimmy-zu9gb]

Also in NA, if you do the free swap option you don't get the skin.

[@matt6201]

QB, I put it to you that the Scorpion G is not all that, please compere it to a Charioteer especially the maxed out cammo rating the Charioteer can achieve.. Although don't tell anyone cos its a secret. See ya on the maps, 4U2FEAR.

[@hiXhaX-YT]

11:32 haha you still respect the JT's armour. That's so 2011 ;) It's got like 200mm+UP und 150mm+ LP, so no premium ammo needed on any kanonenjp :)

[@theslightlytiltedcat]

As I've watched on QB's channel, he said that the early beginner-friendly tank is the KV-1. I already have it. And I'm loving it. So... my question is, which HT line should I go for?

[@ywoisug8845]

IS7

[@religion_of_rage]

short answer: No! Why? No money is worth investing into this game but if you do want to: Scorpion!!!!!

[@Seygem]

Scorpion or Skorpion?

[@luxxdiscipline]

Scorpion? dat tier 7 American? xD

[@religion_of_rage]

HAHA YOU GUYS ARE REAL FU... OF COURSE ITS THA FACKING TIER 8 SKORPION SHIZZLE LIKE GEEEZ YOU KINKY ******* ***** *********** *****!!!!!!

[@Seygem]

uhm, okay. It was just a normal question without any judgement or negativ impuls in your direction, but ok.

[@user-ld3bl3lp7r]

I would rather pick the Scorpion G

[@iqcool]

Quickybaby: proof that, even as a person from the UK himself, English is hard.

[@iqcool]

Didn't know that, thanks for the edit. Although, he doesn't sound Irish

[@drikussteyn243]

Well played QB. Always fantastic to see someone do excellent as a bottom tier tank.

[@Herdatec]

BTW. The successors of the KJpz were called Panther 1 and 2. That's probably the reason for the camo

[@TornadoADV]

This thing doesn't need to fire gold to pen like the 90mm and can actually hide, unlike the scorp. It's the perfect blend of stats.

[@loicgreivel1316]

Hi QB, thx for this new review !! I think you could have compared it to AMX CdA 105 (and mentionned the leopard gun, because you didn't, just like the "old" amx 30 gun on the CdA)

[@TomahawkFare]

12 Seconds for a 105 cannon with 390 Damage. While Mediums reload that for 8 seconds. Totally dishonest review.

[@wehrmacht1337]

If someone is asking..., why does the KanJPz so high HEAT vellocity, it is beacuse it is a coldwar tank... It has got the "modern" HEAT shell...

[@Tom-ei4we]

Aggressive play for a sneaky hit and run tank

[@commanderserviland1713]

I agree with QB that this represents a good deal for existing owners of the original TD and that surely the black cat camo should be included with the £33 standard edition which my son decided to purchase. I decided to purchase the updated version at the 50% discount & interestingly managed to outperform my son when in a platoon with him using the 105mm and myself using the 90mm. He is a better player than me so I found this surprising. I would recommend either version if you like the glass cannon TD gameplay style.

[@samueleinzaghi8964]

238 pen is not bad per se, it’s the alpha and premium rounds that let the standard down. For example 238mm is still enough to go through the upper plate of the Jagdtiger 100% of the time from that angle

[@johnhall9476]

well what i cant understand is why did not everyone think the original kanone was not an OP TD, yes i know the gun was crap but it fired fast, it has good speed and good canno,, there is another TD that has good speed good cammo but a crap gun that fires fast and everyone thinks its OP yes its the E25 wish ppl would make their minds up on what is OP

[@Fr3dBear_pc]

The original didn't have preferred mm like the e25, it also did not have the not nerfed firing cammo that the e25 has

[@johnhall9476]

its gun is a tier 6 trying ti kill tier 8 two tier difference so whats your point, armour virtually any tank it comes up against it can penetrate, so speed and cammo is really all its got,

[@Fr3dBear_pc]

It has roughly the same penetration as most tier 7 mediums in addition to having premium MM which they don't have and it has a base dpm of 2.8k, the e25 and old knojpz were not even in the same league. Not to mention all heavy lines start to get decent amounts of armor at tier 8 and all tanks in tier 9 and 10 have vastly better view range than what the e25 will ever see

[@johnhall9476]

as a TD it should have better pen than the meds of the same tier, as most TDS do, oh you never heard of the T29 and other that a tier 7 heavys and meds it has trouble with, im thinking you should go and check the pen on the e25s gun then have a GOOD look at armour values i think you will be suprised on how many can bounce the e25 if you had one you would know

[@Fr3dBear_pc]

go look at Zack Wilsons thread, if you don't believe the differences, the fact still remains that they are two different tanks which have similar features but because of teir and premium mm make one really good and the other Okay at best.

[@bassmentality]

Good video and I have to say I enjoy playing the the 90 so much I jumped to buy the 105 and to be able to play and compare them both!

[@crazyadam9281]

I never had the original Kanjpz to be honest but I do have the Skorpion G and I think I'll keep it that way, a turret always makes a difference.

[@hyperionwu3738]

I have the previous KanonenJagdPanzer. Shall I swap it to the 105 or just use the discount to buy the 105? thanks!

[@woableattack2990]

As somebody who owns both the Skorpion G and the Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 (and sucks at the game): The 105 is fun, lots of fun actually, with its mobility and the 390 alpha, but it's not as good as the skorpion with the monstrous 128mm. And i think they did okay with the special paintjob thing on the 105. Boy how i wish i had the Skorpion without that ugly special paintjob...

[@FlaviaPitariu]

I managed to grab one of these for 16£ with the camo and a couple of x5 missions. I'm gonna keep both. My Germans TD crew is the highest, Ferdinand female crew

[@tristanboileau]

How is it compared to the amx canon d'assaut?

[@chrissenn5053]

I changed my old one against the new and i am very happy. Sure it's no Scorpion but it's so much better than the old one. The penetration helps so much and the alpha too. That was a good change. :)

[@willusurf4900]

2:37 "QUACKtically identical"

[@Trusteft]

You played very well, also nice you didn't spam gold. The TD in question looks nice but I wouldn't pay again money for a turretless TD. But that's just me. Thanks for sharing.

[@lukaszboczar2441]

Yetus the fetus

[@lvr1028]

The 90 mm has high pen on the high explosive rounds. Nobody seems to talk about it in the videos

[@jeanpoule1716]

The jg pz4 is the only tank i have 3 marks on. With better mobility, i think the kanonenjagdpanzer should be a tank for me

[@ianbird8617]

Yep nice video !! WG seems to be learning from the last buyout debacle no Russian trade in here. But 20quid for a sticker mmmmm. They have just had those camo paint sales it was £6:50 for two exclusive designs which seems a lot fairer to me than a £20 pussycat. I hope they relaunch the E25 with 105mm 250 pen gun lol

[@Dalkian]

I was looking at it and thought that it could work, then i realised you can't train a full tier 10 german td crew in it.

[@maxysadm]

The deal breaker for me... Can't train my JPZE100 crew...

[@kayaritvards9200]

Would you also review 1.2 pref mm tanks rework?

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

So, in short, the Kanonen 105 is a Leo 1 with a DPM nerf and no turret at tier 8, but has a camo buff. Interesting. Also, you only need a 212 pen for a 50% chance at penning the Tiger 2's frontal hull unangled, and a 246 mm pen gun for a 50% at around 30-40% of angling (the Jgtiger has the Tiger 2 chassis). Nothing to concern for a tier 9 or 10.

[@nickhemmers4667]

I think the 90mm kanonnenjpz has pref matchmaking on console just like the panther 8.8 has and some other prems

[@kipbrown4239]

Common everybody, hit that LIKE BUTTON so he can get paid by youtube and keep getting all of his PERKS from WOT!

[@casuscnactus4864]

13:44 That is often enough not a slip of the tongue...

[@karras6239]

So its a e25 in tier 8 with a scorpG ish gun... Like the e25 isnt anoying enough that forces you to go tier 4 or tier 10 to never see one..

[@scottag3597]

My British HESH shells love this new premium haha

[@Shorjok]

Why not just buy the original KJPz now and then immediately trade it in for the new one? That way you get the new one plus camo for [I assume] a fraction of the standard price. I don't know how much the 90mm costs now but I would assume it's less than £33.

[@borisbadenov483]

So, what will eventually happen to the old version of the tank? Will they phase it out after that 2019 date? What happens after that date to the older version of the TD ?

[@tauntpig2448]

"Tis but a scratch - receive one point of damage from ramming"

[@ubermausse306]

I wish the game was a bit more balanced for newer tanks players like myself, having it based on tank power instead of player skill is like putting a high school football (soccer) team in the FIFA world cup, and thinking they're on an even playing field because they use the same cleats. Not only do advanced players have greater skill when it comes to angling and tank placement, but they also have advanced crews which gives their tanks significant advantages to newer players who don't even have the crew options unlocked yet. A simple idea would be a ranking system based on a few key points; Win/loss ratio, kill/death ratio, # of games played, crew skill, and wether or not the player is using premium rounds. Using those parameters, players would have a choice of several difficulty modes unlocked: (beginners) novice tanker, (amateur) battle hardened, (elite) war master The game would run the same as it does now with the tier trees balancing out the tanks, but the added player skill balancing would ensure players are always on an even playing field with each other. Noob players would have an easier time learning the ropes, while advanced players would have a greater challenge facing opponents of equal skill. This would also allow stronger players to use lower tier tanks without worry of "seal clubbing" weaker players. Maybe I sound like a bitch but I just think a little player balancing might make it feel like its less daunting of a task to learn how to play

[@warrmalaski8570]

The best way to do this would have been to have both guns on the 105 and let the owners have it for free. But this is not a bad way to handle it either.

[@chargerdiecast]

When we could change the E25 for this one? That trade for not be more a preferential matchmaker

[@shadjohnsen8143]

Meh, took one of these tanks out last night like butter with my old Jagd 8,8 using standard rounds. Not impressed at all.

[@guvyygvuhh298]

Well, gl if an E25 wants to ram ya full speed. The Skorpion has a woping 40 t! I remember once an E25 bounced like 10 shells of my upper plate (30mm is actualy quite decent) and ramned me full speed. What happed? He killed himself from full HP and I lost like ~260 HP. GL with that in the KJPanthers

[@HellFighter55]

Wish WG would of done this with the Skorpion before they turned it into a Tier 8 Premium. And gave it the name Skorpion G, also would like to see that tank destroyer get paint & different camo, the tan is alright but turret terverse really sucks when you're surrounded by medium and light tanks.

[@stevenhannweg1644]

I bought in the past the Kanonenjagtpanzer and it was a "medioca" dd, would be cool when i can replace them with the 105 wich makes more sence I tryed to compare it to the E25 which has some similaritys but its not the same like the KJPZ on T8.

[@Robi2009]

6:55 Tier 10 heavy firing APCR at T 8 TD with paper armor... *cough* 5 % *cough*

[@LessAiredvanU]

The Skorpion is broken - way too OP. I have/had the original kjpanzer and immediately put it up to swap; I think I will have a decent td which will fit better into the game than the Skorp. As QB said, there is a reason why the original Kanonjp is being upgraded, and there is also a reason why the Skorpion is the most popular tank in WoT. If you want pay to win, get a Skorpion - if you want a German td that will reward good ambush sniping, get the 105.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

How Skorpion is pay to win? Ifyou don't know what you're doing you're going to die VERY quickly and wonder why this thing is the best tier 8 premium.

[@rohesilmnelohe]

1:21 268mm caliber gun 11:50 So its a regular kanonen-jpz? *QB - The new Jingles*

[@Aquifilia]

I think the 105 version has the 105mm gun of the Leopard 1A5 and the hull of an RU 251

[@Kogaion100]

I had the e25 before and bought this now ..I only played the e25 for the fun factor . The kanonenpanzer 105 is almost as fun ,the gun in great ,the mobility is great ,speed ,cammo,etc but 0 armor so stay hidden and you make alot of credits ;)

[@dimaborger]

Do the regular kanonenjagdpanzer have heat as premium and 390 alpha?

[@Elodarian]

I seem to remember this TD was substandard in just about every way compared to the other German Tier VIII TDs. Also I have only seen the original played twice this past year. And both were wallet warrior donkeys.

[@polt3erg3ist1]

1 st battle 4.3k dmg ACE , patrolduty and the rest battles went BAD - may it rest in peace

[@liivetookmyname1830]

What a turn around for wg. A free trade in and not a Russian refund?? Bravo.

[@frankvc5899]

For old owners, this is quite a buff If the gun was not RNG and unreliable plus a bit more of HP and camo it would be awesome and slight reload buff But a fair trade no less

[@Balc0ra]

Vs even the CDA 105... I can't say I've been impressed of the few I've seen today. Nor has any of the other reviews of it I've seen ended up with a recommendation of the tank on it's own. Just over the old 90mm.

[@ChadStrydom]

How does it compare to the AMX CDA 105?

[@unknowngamer9316]

105 straight up better than the normal one

[@ThePartick11]

Why would you not compare this to the s1??? Since they are almost the same

[@ry0usama511]

Players : Please buff German tech tree..! WG: Ok, here's a premium German tank

[@grandmasterdc6416]

is it really worth to get the sneaky fast boi ?