World of Tanks || 45TP - Tank review

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QuickyBaby

QuickyBaby

Күн бұрын

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@markonikolic1386
@markonikolic1386 6 жыл бұрын
QB could you make a new series where you review the games of the weaker players and give tips and point to there mistakes along the way? I think it could help a lot of players. Thank you for the great content so far, love your videos!
@Knight_Igris
@Knight_Igris 6 жыл бұрын
A long time ago there were KZbinrs who made these videos like QB and Dez games and the Mighty Jingles
@markonikolic1386
@markonikolic1386 6 жыл бұрын
@@Knight_Igris Are those videos still out there?
@mpakatselos_ele
@mpakatselos_ele 6 жыл бұрын
Qb why you don’t use xvm it’s not legal ???
@KuliJens
@KuliJens 6 жыл бұрын
You wanna check out Zeven's youtube channel it's amazing and exactly what you're looking for buddy
@shprite781
@shprite781 6 жыл бұрын
That would make for some boring videos
@randymotter51
@randymotter51 6 жыл бұрын
"Oh God, I over-committed!" *BOING* "Physics."
@GritimoTheOdd
@GritimoTheOdd 6 жыл бұрын
That needs to be a GIF so badly. Meme at the very least.
@InternetEntity
@InternetEntity 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the realism too!
@caspertoo
@caspertoo 6 жыл бұрын
That m4 did more to throw the game by his defeatist attitude than anything the enemy did.
@gamewizard1760
@gamewizard1760 5 жыл бұрын
The M4 should have got in the cap circle and stayed there when he had the chance. He's probably one of those 'no cap, kill all' morons.
@LoneTiger
@LoneTiger 6 жыл бұрын
16:40 Polish tanks now made out of rubber.
@Darkmatterdwarf
@Darkmatterdwarf 6 жыл бұрын
QB you said vertical stabilizers helped you alot. But on my 45TP I can't mount them. Maybe you mixed something up there since the T29 can mount a V-Stab.
@steveroyer1628
@steveroyer1628 5 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same. He's using bino, vents and rammer
@ayushlondhe8079
@ayushlondhe8079 6 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the Egyptians were still building the pyramids
@Spike-ey4bg
@Spike-ey4bg 6 жыл бұрын
Holy Moses that is a long time ago
@willusurf4900
@willusurf4900 6 жыл бұрын
What does this place needs man? BIG FCKING TRIANGLES THATS WHAT.
@nestor_srb
@nestor_srb 6 жыл бұрын
Bro, aliens built thoose
@deadmeme4438
@deadmeme4438 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one made me giggle a bit :)
@zamu77
@zamu77 6 жыл бұрын
I love the 45tp :) Play it like a heavy when you’re top tier and a medium when you’re bottom tier. It feels like the IS-2 and VK45.03 had a baby that kept the best of both :D Best heavy for ramming missions!
@Hon2838
@Hon2838 6 жыл бұрын
11:20,you should have used an HE shell for the su100m1 though....
@drsanmyattun
@drsanmyattun 6 жыл бұрын
yep , just shoot track or HE.
@papaguacamole776
@papaguacamole776 3 жыл бұрын
@@drsanmyattun It was too late at that point though, wasn't it?
@Josh-ev9do
@Josh-ev9do 6 жыл бұрын
i really like how you show good matchmaking and bad matchmaking it really shows how the tank does in each situation
@ArexSeege
@ArexSeege 6 жыл бұрын
talk about a tank that can bounce
@DatFatThor
@DatFatThor 4 жыл бұрын
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@DatFatThor
@DatFatThor 4 жыл бұрын
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@DatFatThor
@DatFatThor 4 жыл бұрын
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@DatFatThor
@DatFatThor 4 жыл бұрын
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@DatFatThor
@DatFatThor 4 жыл бұрын
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@aidanbach6979
@aidanbach6979 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your videos QuickyBaby! You make even the worst tanks (not necessarily the polish line) seem OP and a joy to play!
@michaelcheng4985
@michaelcheng4985 6 жыл бұрын
QB, I admire your sympathy for those kinds of mistakes, I would have been raging at that M4. I respect your composure!
@argenthellion
@argenthellion 6 жыл бұрын
7:57 LEFH doesn't do splash damage, if it hits you it hits you, if it misses you even by a meter it doesn't do a damn thing...
@mui7787
@mui7787 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like nameless with that camo
@i_am_not_stupid_8953
@i_am_not_stupid_8953 6 жыл бұрын
Feels like a T29/Leo hybrid with worse gun depression
@GenoGENOVA
@GenoGENOVA 6 жыл бұрын
I think it is Important that you always show us the match up with the tier above and its current tier nice video :)
@adamgray1862
@adamgray1862 5 жыл бұрын
I know its an old video, but I LOVED the t6. play like a heavy, and wreck face.
@dpoultski2499
@dpoultski2499 4 жыл бұрын
I just got this tank and I like it. Mobile for a heavy. It can bounce shots and the gun is pretty accurate and deals damage.
@n3mean550
@n3mean550 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a mastery in this tank, along with steel wall, and like 5 other achievements after watching this video... I think I bounced 20 shells, lmao. I completely held one line from 2 heavies and 2 mediums.. Thanks for the tips, I'd of never considered sitting at those angels
@modeltrainchannel3151
@modeltrainchannel3151 6 жыл бұрын
The t29 is just wow. I stick my turret up in tier 9 and they have to fire gold to pen unless they hit my roof. So balanced
@burdseed8209
@burdseed8209 Жыл бұрын
in my eyes the 45TP was one of the nicer parts of the polish tech tree compared to the other tanks you get it fully researched rather quickly. Its hull armor is lacklustered but with its mobility and actually great turret it actually makes up for it. I think this tank is meant to be played more like a medium than a traditional heavy. It has a rather small profile is surprisingly agile and boast amazing alpha damage for its tier.
@cvjanzen550
@cvjanzen550 4 жыл бұрын
I have played a good variety of tanks tier l-X and though I do agree with you about the 45TP short falls. I am finding this line of Polish tanks has challenged my skill and after completing most of this line has made me a far better tanker. Maybe it will do the same for others. -cheers!
@Izwor
@Izwor 6 жыл бұрын
45TP is very nice tank to play. If you play carefully and use your turret it will pay off with good games :)
@Xandliear
@Xandliear Жыл бұрын
Love this tank! Got a free to play account and kept it. Not too overpowered, but jot horrible. Got some pretty solid games in it and love the profile of the tank, too. The gun can troll at times but is pretty reliable. Got my first mark of excellence.. going at least for my second mark next! Overall, a solid tier 7 heavy!
@InternetEntity
@InternetEntity 6 жыл бұрын
16:35 Please send that bit to Honest Gaming / 06Wallst. That is a great ‘Physics and Realism guy’ moment.
@KeanoMUFC1
@KeanoMUFC1 6 жыл бұрын
45TP is a solid, well balanced tank, it's nice tank to play, unlike the tier 6 - 40TP.
@hellvis2025
@hellvis2025 5 жыл бұрын
had yesterday really good rounds in this tank (much better then my overall stats): 2000 average damage, 7 out of 8 wins, wn8 of over 3800 and Union Campaign Mission Nr. 15 including Bonus, I like......
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 6 жыл бұрын
My view on the 45TP is that its not amazing, but its not bad. Very middle of the road.
@Maalaboy
@Maalaboy 6 жыл бұрын
Worry not, fam, the 45TP's view on you is poor as well. You know, because it has a weak viewrange stat... :D
@leonardirwin875
@leonardirwin875 6 жыл бұрын
Hey QB, do one on the T 92 tier 8 premium. You will love War Gaming's mathematical calculations for the standard ammo. 3 rounds @ 270 credits cost over 5K credits to replace.
@robertflint4115
@robertflint4115 6 жыл бұрын
After grinding through the 40tp..this tank was amazing.....But will never replace my T29.
@Kenjis9965
@Kenjis9965 5 жыл бұрын
Am i weird.. I had a lot of great games in the 40TP and thought it was a pretty fun little tank, Just got the 45TP though, definitely like the better mobility
@n3mean550
@n3mean550 4 жыл бұрын
It had its moments, but I was happy to rip my crew from the T6 and proudly set them in their new home, the 45TP. haha
@pavoljuraj7020
@pavoljuraj7020 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was searching through comments, if I'm the only one. After the initial shock that I had, that I had to think hard what to do with this tank, as it had nothing going for it. bad dpm, inaccurate gun even when fully amimed, very little armor and cherry on the top very poor mobility (even though it says 50 km/h is max speed, I've never reached it even downhill). Though I have to menation, I haven't done many climbs so far, but I don't find this tank so terrible, from what I've heared there are many abodsultely terrible tanks in the lower tiers. After some upgrading, and after I found where on the battlle field I should move, I started to actually enjoy it most of the time, I had lucky bounces, I had many pretty moments :) But now that I think about it, I as a bad player was able to get many many 3rd classes and also some 2nd classes for exp, so I guess the avarage exp gain is really low for this tank :D guess many people just give up and buy it out with free exp and blueprints :D
@CarBjorn
@CarBjorn 6 жыл бұрын
As usual , top tier , amazing tank against all those low tier :D GJ QB , but more fun to see so GLHF
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite tier 7 tanks.....but only with a turbo. I forgo having any vision to buff the great mobility and use this like a heavy medium.
@suchar15pl
@suchar15pl 6 жыл бұрын
Quicky - Habich was a name of engineer that came up with plans of said tank. So you can read the name "Habich's 45tp"
@viliusrapsevicius3054
@viliusrapsevicius3054 6 жыл бұрын
This tank scares me the most when playing in my tier 6s.
@wargamingsupernoob
@wargamingsupernoob 6 жыл бұрын
better bounce than on stream yesterday.
@smitachauhan257
@smitachauhan257 6 жыл бұрын
I never get this kind of mm....in tier 7.........always facing tier 9...in m p43 tier ...fk mm
@MirinyOfficial
@MirinyOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the dip on mines in the center of the map is most defiantly the most important location
@noliebowtie1315
@noliebowtie1315 6 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to be able to see the T29 in real life
@els236
@els236 6 жыл бұрын
You did more damage in that top tier game (first one shown) than I do in 99% of my matches (including top tier)... seriously incredible. I have trouble blocking more than about 1.5k damage in the 50TP prototype lol and that tank is considered OP by some... AND I have trouble doing more than 2k damage in the STRV-S1, which is also a T8 prem. Either you get put with some seriously low ranking players, or you get seriously lucky, or you're just a godlike WoT player (or potentially all 3 lol).
@LXV304
@LXV304 3 ай бұрын
I personally like the 40TP, even though it is a heavy tank speed, mid gun and medium tank armor, I like it and I don't know why! :D
@Meloen83
@Meloen83 6 жыл бұрын
"That one bounced"
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a good tank. I really enjoyed it. Its far from OP, true. But just all around decent. Especially in a city where you can sidescrape
@macmadgunner454
@macmadgunner454 6 жыл бұрын
I got this tank also, and played with this tank with xp booster to get the tier 8 heavy. I like this tank but THE T29 was my first tier 7 tank and it is still amazing. Even in tier 9 you can still fight and get good results. Before the skorpion G i fought a lot of tier 10 with the T29 and that was epic, fail platoon. :) Still i like the 45TP is a good tank but it is not a replacement for T29 :).
@albinjezic4248
@albinjezic4248 6 жыл бұрын
Hey QB, can you make a video on how to select skills and perks on your crew for different type of vehicle and different tier. tnx in advance
@wargamingsupernoob
@wargamingsupernoob 6 жыл бұрын
hey, the only time ive ever seen QB without a 120% crew in a tank
@Drummercommander
@Drummercommander 6 жыл бұрын
This thing is insane when it's top tier. Thankfully the T29 is still a god
@ga-america5030
@ga-america5030 6 жыл бұрын
By the time you get to it, it'll be nerfed
@yaboiyosef7640
@yaboiyosef7640 6 жыл бұрын
It isn't even strong tho......would probably be true if it was a powerhouse
@EirikXL
@EirikXL 6 жыл бұрын
You're looking at it wrong! You even compared it to the T29 AND the IS at the start but then u onl compare it to the T29 in the rest of the video. If you compare only with the IS (which is a good tank) instead; it has better mobility, better armour (or at least comparable), better accuracy, slightly worse dpm.
@_badmadsadlad
@_badmadsadlad 6 жыл бұрын
yeah because he's comparing it to one of the best tanks tier for tier in the game. Saying it's a worse T29 basically means it's the second best heavy tank at tier 7 in the game. You're the one looking at it wrong for thinking QB was saying the tank is bad.
@nuke2099
@nuke2099 6 жыл бұрын
During his streams QB was cursing this tank saying it's probably the worst tier 7 heavy.
@Knight_Igris
@Knight_Igris 6 жыл бұрын
@@_badmadsadlad I agree the T29 is the best tier 7 heavy its armour holds strong against a lot of tanks and you can pack a punch not as much as some but still very good
@EirikXL
@EirikXL 6 жыл бұрын
_bad He was definitely saying it was more bad than good. 19:05 "not terrible" is not the same as "good", "playable"; IS however synonymous with below average (which basically means it's bad), 19:27 "didn't really enjoy" (even though it's good???), 2 things he didn't like? "lack of turret armour": this tank actually has decent turret armour for a tier 7 heavy actually it's better than the IS, and not having 10 degrees gun depression: this tank has 8 which is actually better than most tier 7 heavies. So in conclusion he's bashing the tank for not being best in class (like the T29) and not really commending the strengths (speed and gun handling and decent armour). His bias really shines through in his comment at 19:50: here he says that it sacrifices the things it needs to be good in a tier 9 game to gain an advantage in a good matchup... however it is common knowledge that bottom tier play style should be more mobile and have better gunhandling rather than armour which is usually only effective vs same and lower tiers (T29 is probably the only tank in the game that doesn't follow this rule). I mean there's a reason why you'd rather be in a bottom tier light/medium/TD rather than a bottom tier heavy that gets penned by everything anyway.
@EirikXL
@EirikXL 6 жыл бұрын
Actually I just went into wot and looked at all tier 7 heavies; all of them are worse than this one except for Tiger 1 and T29
@slatespok
@slatespok 6 жыл бұрын
OP tank, can bounce over everything
@marijnvanderlugt7120
@marijnvanderlugt7120 6 жыл бұрын
Great video QB, very usefull
@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA4AAAAAAAAAAAAA
@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA4AAAAAAAAAAAAA 6 жыл бұрын
your welcome
@calebbrown2776
@calebbrown2776 6 жыл бұрын
The AMX M4 45 makes the tier six look like a god.
@FatLady2k
@FatLady2k 6 жыл бұрын
6:43 The Tank cant use Vertical Stabilizer btw
@Forgetthereality
@Forgetthereality 6 жыл бұрын
I find with range shots how long this tank sits still you'd have binocs up just before a comfortable shot
@jhonylg4045
@jhonylg4045 6 жыл бұрын
I really preffer to have the 380 mts view range to the 10 degrees of depresion
@risharehraje793
@risharehraje793 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, those megalucky pixelhunting shots!
@jaididdi6215
@jaididdi6215 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the new upcoming Su-130PM?
@cheznugget
@cheznugget 6 жыл бұрын
Do a review on the 59-16 please
@ConfusionDistortion
@ConfusionDistortion 6 жыл бұрын
This was a meh tank for me too. I ran it for a bit, did fine in it, but just wasnt fun to use. If I wanted to keep using a tier 7 heavy for normal play, I would opt to just keep using the Tiger P or something else.
@timeforgottenprince8271
@timeforgottenprince8271 6 жыл бұрын
So the 40 TP is the ARL v39 of the Polish tree?
@haris4974
@haris4974 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about T20 i am realy strugelling with the way to the PERSHING.
@SupremeMasterr
@SupremeMasterr 6 жыл бұрын
2:52 i spotted where you cut this video while editing quicky.
@bigbo1764
@bigbo1764 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind the 45tp being slow, as long as it has the armor to back it up; the issue with the 40tp was that it was slow, had no armor, and it’s gun was weak - basically just an all around bad tank.
@juustem2000
@juustem2000 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the 105-ammo on the T29 almost twice the cost?
@dominikkapaa3613
@dominikkapaa3613 6 жыл бұрын
53tp next ooo im waiting for this i love this tank
@caroberts4658
@caroberts4658 6 жыл бұрын
Hey I was wondering if you could do a video about the Pershing
@loadtheskillrounds4167
@loadtheskillrounds4167 6 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree with you this time QB if you gave this tank the turret armour of the T29 and the gun depression it would essentially be way better than the T29 as it would be more mobile. I actually think this tank is pretty good I’d rather have mobility than armour any day but that’s just my play style and opinion one thing I hate though is the slow shell speed that does suck.
@sobantahir1011
@sobantahir1011 6 жыл бұрын
Polish line sucks up until the tier 8 IMO.
@mariuszcos534
@mariuszcos534 6 жыл бұрын
nope, only u suck:P
@luko1475
@luko1475 6 жыл бұрын
@@mariuszcos534 oczywiście polaczek cebulaczek musiał skomentować
@randomowykolegazinternetu
@randomowykolegazinternetu 6 жыл бұрын
@@luko1475 oczywiście wywyższający się bufon musiał skomentować
@milivanili3791
@milivanili3791 6 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Tier 7 is cool and powerful. Enjoy game or uninstall. ;)
@Sonlirain
@Sonlirain 6 жыл бұрын
Frankly this thing only seems good because you likely had to survive the absolutely awful tier 6. Tiger P is better. Tiger 1 is much better. T29 is miles better.
@MaddRIP1
@MaddRIP1 6 жыл бұрын
how do you upload WOT replay vids for Quickybaby to look at?
@GiM_Retrospect
@GiM_Retrospect 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to know why the 53 has only 420 alpha. They said the poles were gonna specialize in Alpha but that really doesn't happen until T9. Originally I had thought the 53 would get that awesome 440 but meh. Honestly still a fun tank to play and I'm almost at the 60tp rn
@ShyaMiss
@ShyaMiss 6 жыл бұрын
I have wondered this as well. They dont get the big alpha that they claimed the polish line would have, but they get the gun handling that the big guns have...
@TaPs_28
@TaPs_28 6 жыл бұрын
QB coz im a noob and may u plz tell how to change the voice on the tank crew like polish crew will speak polish when hitting a enemy or killing them and same wiht other ones P.S PLZ HELP ME!!! P.S.S love ur vids
@snorri0411
@snorri0411 6 жыл бұрын
and you call THAT hull armour mediocre? when it can't just bounce shells, it can bounce entire planets? :D
@HowIplayWorldofTanks
@HowIplayWorldofTanks 6 жыл бұрын
I felt much the same about this tank - initially I thought it was pretty good but soon realised that was just a relief from the awful 40TP. So far this Polish tree has been a major disappointment, if it wasnt bad enough the changing between, light, medium and heavy varieties, the tanks are at best nah, at worst, awful
@ΘέμηςΡίζος
@ΘέμηςΡίζος 6 жыл бұрын
it is a balanced tank at least that could use some mobility and gun handling buffs
@crazybcenduro7536
@crazybcenduro7536 6 жыл бұрын
Your vids are awesome !!!!!!!!!!!👏 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@BlindFox
@BlindFox 6 жыл бұрын
That was a nice bounce
@Rendoss
@Rendoss 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I used binocs because I had no other equipment to use for this tank. Now it's QB approved.
@ValkyrieLightwing
@ValkyrieLightwing 6 жыл бұрын
I actually quite enjoyed that tank. Not sure why but I seemed to do well in it. Maybe I just got lucky idk
@cyklotronpl7785
@cyklotronpl7785 6 жыл бұрын
I am back in Wot after couple years thanks to your videos. I think you failed to win 1st battle. You could have passed t29 and race towards the circle to reset cap and just return fire from t29 by Autoaim. Am I right?
@tudorc7597
@tudorc7597 6 жыл бұрын
Dude... physics in WOT are sick...
@aresxx2217
@aresxx2217 6 жыл бұрын
absolute unit of a tank
@guyknightley3499
@guyknightley3499 6 жыл бұрын
I played my IS with the 100mm gun. It has more gun depression with the 100mm and, doesn't miss as much. lol
@celesi87
@celesi87 6 жыл бұрын
so QSF takes basically any scrub in?
@gamewizard1760
@gamewizard1760 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like it compares favorably with the IS, but the T29 is still king of the tier.
@DrasticPurpleHippo
@DrasticPurpleHippo 6 жыл бұрын
it's a reasonable reverse side scraper in my estimation
@JoRythem
@JoRythem 6 жыл бұрын
This is the only PL tank i skipped with free XP, played 3 games in it and it wasnt great (for me). It feels like a slow medium with a too large profile. My advice get the tier 8 with reliable frontal (turret) armor and a sick gun! Looking forward to tier IX 🙏
@christianh4723
@christianh4723 6 жыл бұрын
How on earth could you justify skipping this tank and not that abomination 40TP...
@alekch.4185
@alekch.4185 6 жыл бұрын
17:15 he probably stopped the replay because the pig killed his entire team
@mazzosvk
@mazzosvk 5 жыл бұрын
I like this tank a lot .... Can be better but is still playlable and so crazy funny...
@cymonthebest
@cymonthebest 6 жыл бұрын
How to play a 45tp. Bounce
@Grimasaurus
@Grimasaurus 6 жыл бұрын
I found the 45TP to be an unenjoyable tank to play and the gun dispersion I experienced were significantly worse than that depicted in QB's review.
@MrBrander
@MrBrander 6 жыл бұрын
11:20. Quickybaby, you made a mistake there. You didn't use HE to reset the cap but instead used an APCR round. AP, APCR and HEAT are unreliable when you really have to make that last shot count for the exact reason seen on the video, bounce. HE doesn't bounce. It may ricoche but not bounce (and when you ricoche a HE shell, then you are just playing poorly). Even if HE does 0 damage there is still a chance to reset the cap because even tiniest amount of damage to even tracks resets the cap. That's why ALWAYS, ALWAYS and ALWAYS use HE to reset the cap when you absolutely have to reset the cap at the very last second.
@gmansplit
@gmansplit Жыл бұрын
You think he doesn't know that? Even if he hadn't bounced, the reset would've been too late to save the game
@cherryroy8247
@cherryroy8247 6 жыл бұрын
so how tanks should be. Great in a good match up, and playable in a bad matchup. Also, still waiting for the actual Pershing to be featured on this channel. :P
@Romabn1
@Romabn1 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else have the issue where the "return crew to tank" doesnt work with QB modpack in NA?
@danz4795
@danz4795 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really good 45tp replay that I want QB to review. How do I get his attention here and when I upload? Pls help.
@danz4795
@danz4795 3 жыл бұрын
@QuickyBaby
@58gagi
@58gagi 6 жыл бұрын
it can be played with this tank, it's not very good or very bad, it's good on the hill
@soad11dude
@soad11dude 6 жыл бұрын
I would rather have this tank than something super OP that WG will nerf in a few months after people have done EXP conversions to rush to it and seal club. Every line tends to have a mediocre tank and most even have a bad tank. I kind of like this idea. Ok armour, with decent mobility and decent gun.
@ioanpopovici1520
@ioanpopovici1520 6 жыл бұрын
Ca-n you make a Type 64 review (is my favourite tank🙂
@viridisxiv766
@viridisxiv766 6 жыл бұрын
that m4 must be feeling pretty sick right now.
@Balc0ra
@Balc0ra 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, if QB wanted to stay and trade with the T29, he could have just legged it towards cap, taken the hits and gone for the SU instead. But... captain hindsight and all that.
@vicdoesgaming7570
@vicdoesgaming7570 6 жыл бұрын
"garbage 3-5-7 mm we have now days" first time ive heard qb say that
@oliverkromann1902
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as much as this video is not about the top tier tank i've been thinking a bit about the features of it russian hull +turret armor american gun depression german alpha need i to say more?
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